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[LuckyChi7]

Wouldn't surprise me. Like honestly, the Uchihas were the only thing that mattered in this abomination of a story. The man didn't even have the semblance to go into his MC's lineage. He was one of two Uzumaki alive at the start of the war, yet we know nothing about the Uzumaki or what happened to the. Kishi is such a hack.

 

 

That's what some people are holding onto when it comes to Part 3 spin off that the Uzumaki lineage will be the focus of the spin off. Even though I'm deciding to just check out the first chapter, I don't have any hopes for the Uzumaki lineage to be explored in Part 3 spin off. It should've been done in the original series like Idk make another arc that happened after the war explaining the Uzumaki then get the god damn final battle between Naruto vs Sasuke. Oh there's alot that the series could've taken Post-Pain Arc, and I meant alot alot. 

[Narufan85]

now you got me thinking that minato wasn't suppose to be his father and that kushina was thought up years later and decided to make her a jinchuuriki.

 

Honestly, when a dog is part of the inspiration for Minato (wasn't Kiba's dog involved?) then this wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

Wouldn't surprise me. Like honestly, the Uchihas were the only thing that mattered in this abomination of a story. The man didn't even have the semblance to go into his MC's lineage. He was one of two Uzumaki alive at the start of the war, yet we know nothing about the Uzumaki or what happened to the. Kishi is such a hack.

 

Yup. God forbid Kishi spend any time talking about the legacy of the Uzumaki, who were just as involved in founding the village as the Senju and Uchiha. Forget delving into the differences between Kushina's and Naruto's experience jailing the nine-tails. Who cares about exploring Naruto's mental struggle as he comes to terms with his parents, the fact that his sensei never mentioned it, and the village concealed this from him. We can't afford to spend one second on that because it would take away from another Uchiha flashback.

 

 

 

That's what some people are holding onto when it comes to Part 3 spin off that the Uzumaki lineage will be the focus of the spin off. Even though I'm deciding to just check out the first chapter, I don't have any hopes for the Uzumaki lineage to be explored in Part 3 spin off. It should've been done in the original series like Idk make another arc that happened after the war explaining the Uzumaki then get the god damn final battle between Naruto vs Sasuke. Oh there's alot that the series could've taken Post-Pain Arc, and I meant alot alot. 

 

No chance. There are still Uchiha around. It will be all about Sasuke-sensei and his awesome teaching skills.

[WhyDoIWatch]

 

 

Yup. God forbid Kishi spend any time talking about the legacy of the Uzumaki, who were just as involved in founding the village as the Senju and Uchiha. Forget delving into the differences between Kushina's and Naruto's experience jailing the nine-tails. Who cares about exploring Naruto's mental struggle as he comes to terms with his parents, the fact that his sensei never mentioned it, and the village concealed this from him. We can't afford to spend one second on that because it would take away from another Uchiha flashback.

 

lol, I don't know why Kishi made that seem like a negative thing, who wouldn't be mad?

 

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1.) So? Naruto resembles Minato a lot, you think he'd throw Naruto some sort of bone. That's no excuse.

2.) once again, so? From the middle of part one Kakashi knew that the Akatsuki were after Naruto, and still didn't do a god damn thing for Naruto until midway through part 2.

3.) the sharingan isn't Kakashi's only ability, God forbid he pass another technique seperate from the sharingan down to his other students.

4.) actually, Kakashi abandoned Naruto long before he even knew Jiraiya was in town. He ditched Naruto and left him hanging out to dry during the chuunin exams. For all Kakashi knew, Naruto might not have been able to come up with anything on his own, he might have gotten slaughtered by Neji. Kakashi just didn't care. Interestingly enough, Kakashi only showed any ounce of concern for Naruto when he learned Sasuke had escaped.

None of the things you listed are acceptable reasons form Kakashi to abandon his students in favor of Sasuke.

I was just listing out the excuses that Kishi gave to justify Kakashi favoring Sasuke, it doesn't have to make sense 

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Any excuses Kishi makes, makes me laugh that he's trying to bring back the fans.

[Narufan85]

lol, I don't know why Kishi made that seem like a negative thing, who wouldn't be mad?

 

 

 

Having Naruto get pissed about that wouldn't even mess with his character. It'd be another chance to show how loving and forgiving Naruto is because he's able to come to terms with his unhappiness and forgive everyone. He could even make it a part of defeating the nine-tails before he meets Kushina.

 

Someone made a great post-maybe AHK?-a few months ago about how Naruto was never really allowed to show any negative or sad emotions. It was a great comment and referenced the issue over his parentage.

I mean, the scene where he talks to Kakashi about it pisses me off. Kakashi is all "Oh, dads have a lot to say to their kids *eye smile*." Not "sorry I never said anything, dude."

[rocci]

Naruto is a nice guy. That's why doesn't explore his lineage.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I really get the feeling everything we want answers will not appear at all in the spin-off. For God sake, we have no understanding of Kaguya and her lineage because Kishi thought it will make him do more work. He said it himself. Then why introduce so many plot elements then. Let me guess. For anime to do filler on?

[FireFox]

@narutofirefox
He's a cool and likeable character who has tragic back story and could deal with it. I think that's enough to make people like him.

@shadow
Naruto and obito parallel is strong.

Both of them want to become hokage, a fool, have rivalry with the cool guy, love the girl of the team who love their rival.

Anyway kakarin is ss parallel, kakashi doesn't love rin because that is obito.
Obirin is not canon since rin never said she love obito.

Yeah I get that  But......With all do respect to his fanbase  that only tells me that people have zero reading comprehension who try to look past his mistakes just bc of that said background . In the end  when I look at it as a whole  its no different then the radical Sasuke fans  who try to absolve him of all of his kitten and can't see his character for what it was and how it was written . They were both ruined and turned to utter kitten in the end , betrayed by their "creator" so I don't see a point in defending them at all especially if you were really a true fan of them and understand their characters .  

[rocci]

I really get the feeling everything we want answers will not appear at all in the spin-off. For God sake, we have no understanding of Kaguya and her lineage because Kishi thought it will make him do more work. He said it himself. Then why introduce so many plot elements then. Let me guess. For anime to do filler on?

I don't know how to beat madara.

[LuckyChi7]

Kishi: "I'm going to end this series conclusively" 

 

 

Me (after reading chapter 700): "What conclusive ending. This be some last minute decision planning kitten. I mean come on look at how Obito's character was handled. That was actually pretty well planned out. That so called conclusive ending you stated Kishi is one of the most dumbest ending I could've seen an author state as a conclusive ending to a series." 

[AHK]

lol, I don't know why Kishi made that seem like a negative thing, who wouldn't be mad?
 

I was just listing out the excuses that Kishi gave to justify Kakashi favoring Sasuke, it doesn't have to make sense 

  
Fair enough

Having Naruto get pissed about that wouldn't even mess with his character. It'd be another chance to show how loving and forgiving Naruto is because he's able to come to terms with his unhappiness and forgive everyone. He could even make it a part of defeating the nine-tails before he meets Kushina.
 
Someone made a great post-maybe AHK?-a few months ago about how Naruto was never really allowed to show any negative or sad emotions. It was a great comment and referenced the issue over his parentage.

I mean, the scene where he talks to Kakashi about it pisses me off. Kakashi is all "Oh, dads have a lot to say to their kids *eye smile*." Not "sorry I never said anything, dude."

Lol I remember that quote.

Yeah, that scene kinda irked me as well. Hell, Jiraiya and Tsunade didn't even say anything, which irks me as well. Everyone and their mother knew that Naruto was Minato's kid, yet Kishi doesn't even let Naruto get angry at the fact that they all still let him go through what he went through.

[Namikaze Clan]

now you got me thinking that minato wasn't suppose to be his father and that kushina was thought up years later and decided to make her a jinchuuriki.

I don't see how Kishi never originally intended for Minato to be Naruto's dad. They look just alike.

[Phantom_999]

Well that is the main problem with writng a origin story and only expanding upon it at a later date. It just destroys the consistency of what the writer established because it hasn't been thought of yet

Edited by Phantom_999, 19 April 2015 - 04:24 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't see how Kishi never originally intended for Minato to be Naruto's dad. They look just alike.

He did say he was debating to make his dad as the Hokage or someone else.

[Namikaze Clan]

He did say he was debating to make his dad as the Hokage or someone else.

I see. I guess this "someone else" might have been a relative of Minato's

[TouKen4Life3g]

I see. I guess this "someone else" might have been a relative of Minato's

Like Kishi could have done Minato is the brother of Naruto's father. He could have done that if he wanted. So in other words, he said that even though the design of Minato was introduced early on, his character wasn't on paper to be Naruto's father. So...I guess the reincarnation idea was in fact a possibility. Who knew.

[Aizen-Sama]

This is the worst ending to a series I've ever seen. Pathetic fanfiction shipping fanservice at the end... WTF??

[trang95]

This is the worst ending to a series I've ever seen. Pathetic fanfiction shipping fanservice at the end... WTF??

I agree. I have yet to find a manga which ended so disastrously as Naruto.

[rocci]

This is the worst ending to a series I've ever seen. Pathetic fanfiction shipping fanservice at the end... WTF??

No idea.
They said this manga is never about pairing. And then the ending happen.
Not even shaman king do that.

[RedFaction]

This is the worst ending to a series I've ever seen. Pathetic fanfiction shipping fanservice at the end... WTF??

The sad thing is it's still not over yet.