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#17841 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 22 2013, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I've heard, Ohana posted spoilers. It's something along these lines. "Ten tail is out of control! What will Madara do now?"... so i guess we just have to wait and see.

Yeah that's what I read. Funny, I wonder if Naruto did the right thing. tongue.gif

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:02 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 22 2013, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah that's what I read. Funny, I wonder if Naruto did the right thing. tongue.gif

Well, the plot has to go on so... he surely did not do something good, lol! It has to be a twist to the current plot. smile.gif

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 22 2013, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I've heard, Ohana posted spoilers. It's something along these lines. "Ten tail is out of control! What will Madara do now?"... so i guess we just have to wait and see.

Not sure if it's a good or a bad thing laugh.gif

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 22 2013, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Naruto and the ninja alliance are are down and out for the count and Sasuke shows up, then this will lead to some SS Sakura fangirling IMO. All of a sudden a new and improved "white knight" Sasuke-Kun shows up and steals all the girls hearts kind of moment. (Fangirling)

Sasuke - "lol dafuq, u weaking getting owned????, pathetic... dry.gif "

Sakura- "SASUKEEEEE-KUNNNNN" love.gif love.gif love.gif love.gif love.gif

Please Kishi don't do something like this, dont destroy multiple characters in one chapter.....

Like I said, if Sasuke ends ups saving Sakura and she doesn't smack him for touching her, then I'm going to need a new punching bag. dry.gif

Though, I feel like Karin would set him straight if he did. I think we may get an RTN moment where Sakura sees Karin all over Sasuke and ditches him.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:50 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 22 2013, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Naruto and the ninja alliance are are down and out for the count and Sasuke shows up, then this will lead to some SS Sakura fangirling IMO. All of a sudden a new and improved "white knight" Sasuke-Kun shows up and steals all the girls hearts kind of moment. (Fangirling)

Sasuke - "lol dafuq, u weaking getting owned????, pathetic... dry.gif "

Sakura- "SASUKEEEEE-KUNNNNN" love.gif love.gif love.gif love.gif love.gif

Please Kishi don't do something like this, dont destroy multiple characters in one chapter.....


Why do you keep seeing Sakura as the Sasuke fan girl from part 1??? She's hasn't fangirl over him since the chunin exams. This is part 2 Sakura new and improved the first time she saw Sasuke did she fangirl over him??? The second time did she fangirl over him??? I don't think so. If she sees Sasuke again she will act hostile remembering he tried to kill her twice and even threatened to kill Naruto. So please tell me in the name that's all pure why she's going to act like a fan girl now when she hasn't done so in over 500 chapters???

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:15 AM

Although I don't agree that Sakura will go fangirl mode because Sasuke suddenly appears, I know exactly why people are worried about it.

It's because of Karin's reaction. She got it much worse than Sakura did at the summit arc and for a moment, we thought we saw her being serious about what Sasuke did to her in the cell and maybe when she first showed up. But as soon as Sasuke apologizes, all sins are forgiven and apparently forgotten.

We can speculate that Karin actually has a plan and plans to backstab Sasuke or something like that, but that's all it is. Speculation. I don't feel there's enough evidence to really support that idea.

If Kishi thinks it's ok for Karin to return to fangirl mode after being stabbed and called useless by Sasuke, then I guess people are concerned that he'll treat and degrade Sakura the same way.

Personally, Sasuke was bound to return to the 'good' side sometime, so in reality it doesn't concern me. I wanted Sakura to have the option to choose between a Sasuke who wasn't completely mentally insane and Naruto. Sure, she can (and I feel she already did) choose Naruto without Sasuke being involved at all, but her choice would be that much stronger if it wasn't between absolute good and absolute evil.

So, not concerned with Sakura's behavior IF Kishi knows what the hell he's doing with his story. An @sspull at this point is not out of the question in my opinion. Chapter after chapter of the reader being told Naruto was the only one who could sway and change Naruto and Sasuke changes without Naruto involved at all or even thought about. Even when Itachi was in Edo mode, he was still convinced and told us again that Naruto was the only one who could do it. After all that nonesense, it annoys me that Naruto wasted his life chasing after a fool.

It feels like an asspull because Kishi built up the story a certain way and then goes a completely different direction. Now, unless Naruto and Sasuke's fight is going to be buddy buddy (which I actually predicted it could be), there has to be another plot twisting like event where Sasuke is on the completely opposing side again. Does no one else thing that is just too much twisting? It's almost the end, he should be tying up loose ends, not making more.

I really don't think people love NS any less and I'm sure majority fans still believe NS will be canon if Kishi stays true to his work. Problem is, a lot of people, including myself, are starting to feel like he isn't being true to his work. That is why the air reeks of disappointment, discouragement, and probably a bit of sadness.

Anyway, I'm sure Sakura will be fine (again, if Kishi knows what he's doing). Although earlier than I expected it to be, it looks like Sakura's choice is coming sooner than expected.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:50 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 22 2013, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I've heard, Ohana posted spoilers. It's something along these lines. "Ten tail is out of control! What will Madara do now?"... so i guess we just have to wait and see.


Ten tails is out of control: CALLED IT cool.gif

This was in sight, we knew Obito could not control it himself, he is not strong enough. Madara is but needs to be alive for it.

This ten tails fight was a 3 cornered conflict from the start and had a goal:
Allaince to simply defeat them- kill obito and seal madara
Obito- to control the ten tails with Madara before it matures but holds leverage over madara with the rinne tensi
Madara- has the benefits of the edo tensi and unlimited power but needs to give this up to fully control the ten tails for obito to die

The problem for all of them is well the ten tails, the lesser evil right now is the thing is at least under control. The true factor is, how will anyone handle the ten tails if Madara and Obito are gone from it? Only thing I can think of is the 7 other beasts gaining resistance to the ten tails inside, if they have their awareness, this situation like in other fiction could be them fighting against it deep inside or something. The names thing will come back I bet.

Well nothing spoiler-wise, I mean we knew they controlled the ten tails, it was obvious without them, that it would go unbound. Now the alliance may take a big hit.

As for Sakura, well aside from her development concerning Naruto and Sasuke and the ways this can go too (good as we hope, NaruSaku being canon but Sakura acts better around Sasuke like not reverting and forgives him in the end but goes to Naruto). The real other development can be well, "her coming full bloom". Not concerning her role with team 7, Sakura was made to represent human weakness, she thought she was a good ninja, naruto as a pest, sasuke as perfect. She matured later on, in the FOD she was caught in an impossible situation and resolved to train to be like Naruto, Sasuke, and Lee, able to handle herself so she could benefit her team. She saw Naruto was not annoying had a good heart and changed after she found out he saved her. Found sasuke though talented did have his flaws. After Sasuke left, she resolved to train with Tsunade and then came her other big trait, helping Naruto in anyway she could including getting Sasuke back. When it came to herself though her goal of helping Naruto has had some shortcomings (4 tails, bringing Sasuke back, confession, attempted to kill Sasuke), she in ways wanted to help Naruto even not cause him pain and make amends. Though she is putting her faith in Naruto, she is not just determined to sit around, we still see the "We are all going to fight together" Sakura is basically catching up with everything if her development goes well, its at a point that no matter if Naruto would tell her to run she would be willing to stay to die if it meant helping him. If Sakura is any development left aside from overcoming Sasuke, its surpassing tsunade (if even by morals if not powerup), fulfilling herself to Naruto in some way, helping him in his goal and getting completion in herself. She did fail against Sasuke but in this late battle with everyone else. If she does join the fight against the ten tails or does something against Obito or Madara, or comes to something else in Naruto vs Sasuke, this can be the time for Sakura to overcome what she didn't have back in the land of iron, commit to her resolutions and help in bringing them herself, not letting Naruto and the others do it for her. Basically as kishi once said, Sakura always had the potential and latent ability to be a heroine and she has been one, but mainly in the series as a mentally developed one, but now the time can come for her to fulfill herself and stand by the others, mainly Naruto.

Many people say Sakura is always sidelined, well its true she has not been in as many fights but she always gains more mentality based development, watching on the sidelines is not completely sidelining. Sidelining is when the characters are literally offscreen for durations, even entire arcs. Last year was a big sidelining event. Thats the idea. Only Naruto, Kakashi, Bee, Guy, Obito, Sasuke, Itachi, Kabuto, Tsunade, Gaara, Mei, Ay, Onnoki, and Madara were the focus of attention in different periods last year. Only 14 characters for the majority of last year were covered. The K11 and the rest of the cast minor or major not with the aforementioned were sidelined. Sakura even just being back as a medic though is still technically taking part in a fight, this included pain and the ten tails when she just healed. You don't have healers fight now do you? Sakura only ever fought when it was necessary or in personal defense. Yet as much as we want to see her do more, she is a medic first, fighter second. Sasori is her only major fight in shippuden (as far as now) but she still did technically take part in the events when Obito mocked the Itachi hunting team, pain attacked the village, got caught up in facing Sasuke, facing the 7 swordsmen, and now this. Generally anyone who at least participated in these at least had a role, this means anyone who was in the events when facing the enemies. So Sakura has been in a few fights technically, just her role has been minor like most others. Shino can be counted in the fight when Obito mocked them or same with Lee when it came to the 7 swordsmen fight. Anyone there had at least a minor role so they participated in the fights just not a major central role. I don't say Hidan because Shikamaru technically finished the fight so she and Sai could not do anything. But you get the idea, someone at least taking action in some form in the fights is still participating, even for Sakura if its healing, its her job. Medics keep others alive, thats why teams have higher rates of success and survivability.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 22 2013, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, then a break. Yeah, I got chills in more ways than one.

Question, does anyone know why there is another break?

And is a break decided by Kishimoto or by the publisher?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE (StrawHatNaruto @ Apr 22 2013, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Question, does anyone know why there is another break?

And is a break decided by Kishimoto or by the publisher?


Golden Week is a group of four holidays in the space of a week (or so) no weekly magazines are published during this time.

normal breaks though can be decided by Kishimoto or Shueisha or both it all depends

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Apr 22 2013, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Golden Week is a group of four holidays in the space of a week (or so) no weekly magazines are published during this time.

normal breaks though can be decided by Kishimoto or Shueisha or both it all depends


Well weeks with no chapter are not always weeks off, they do the time for other stuff too like prep the writing and events before making them into picture. Some weeks are used to space out the next few events to come forward. Its a long process.

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#17852 StrawHatNaruto

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Apr 22 2013, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Golden Week is a group of four holidays in the space of a week (or so) no weekly magazines are published during this time.

normal breaks though can be decided by Kishimoto or Shueisha or both it all depends

Oh alright , I understand. It must be nice to have four holidays in one week...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:54 AM

What a long wait. If there's a spoiler, I won't even look at it, because well we know what happened before. Anyway, I will kill time by catching up on One Piece right now.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:57 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 22 2013, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What a long wait. If there's a spoiler, I won't even look at it, because well we know what happened before. Anyway, I will kill time by catching up on One Piece right now.

Time well spent. a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:01 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Apr 22 2013, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Time well spent. a_thumbs.gif

Couldn't think of anything better... biggrin.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:15 AM

Lol. Well, I'm at chapter 700. Let's see I can make it before new chapter.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (StrawHatNaruto @ Apr 22 2013, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't think of anything better... biggrin.gif

I could. tongue.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:37 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 22 2013, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could. tongue.gif

Hard to find people who are into anime but not in love with One Piece. tongue.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:40 AM

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:41 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Apr 22 2013, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hard to find people who are into anime but not in love with One Piece. tongue.gif

There's too much that happens at once in that series, and none of it feels like it's connected to the actual plot, (i.e. finding the One Piece.) There were some nice moments in the earlier half though. I just feel like the mangaka has lost sight of where he was going with it...

Or maybe it's just me. :B




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