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[Shadow1275]

 

NO! ALL PARALLELS ARE RED HERRINGS!

 

IT'S A CONSPIRACY

[Shadow1275]

I've been busy with college stuffs and tbh the forums been kind of dead. But its good to be back.

 

Did you miss me?

In your wildest dreams only my dear

[TouKen4Life3g]

Interesting to see DBZ on the rise. It still could be a average film, but in general census, it seems like a mixed thoughts film. At least it's not lower than the Last. That was shaky.

[rocci]

Ha, the last 3 posts you've made have simply been you saying that I am wrong without any evidence. I've already shown why just bc Sakura has a water affinity doesn't mean she can still do jutsu. Affinites don't translate to talent. The Uchiha can do more advanced fire jutsu because of their talent with fire. 
 
 
And I have pointed out why obito and Naruto/Kakashi and Sasuke is a weak parallel and why Naruto/Kakashi makes much more sense.
 
 
Just bc you state I am wrong does not mean that you are at all correct. I'm done here. You're not worth my time

But she can learn it, right? She only need to learn and perform it.
Affinity is not talent. It just an indicator to make you easier to learn elemental ninjutsu, because all ninja is capable to learn all 7 element but not all of them able to do that because they don't have time and skill.

Uchiha has fire alignment, but how could sasuke learn thunder element and itachi with water element? That because all seven elements are learnable.
Did jiraiya has clan? How could he learn water, earth, and fire elements then?
So, clan that have affinity toward element doesn't stop a ninja to learn other element. Thus why I don't see why sakura can't learn it.

Seem like you agree with genjutsu.

I will bring naru sasu and obi kaka parallel later, because in this manga parallel serious business.

[Aizen-Sama]

Salad is the result of Sasuke tossing Sakura's salad.
Boruto is the result of Naruto eating a burrito and sh*tting out Boruto.

[rocci]

Salad is the result of Sasuke tossing Sakura's salad.
Boruto is the result of Naruto eating a burrito and sh*tting out Boruto.

How about himalaya?
Is it because Hinata twin mountain

[Princess Iris]

Salad is the result of Sasuke tossing Sakura's salad.
Boruto is the result of Naruto eating a burrito and sh*tting out Boruto.

[Tiller]

  
Were there any adults in Konoha with a shred of decency? I mean, Kakashi was Minato's student, and he just stood by and let Naruto suffer all those years, only to abandon him and Sakura when they needed just as much attention as Sasuke.

"That's my teachers son, better just let him get discriminated against."

Honestly it's one of the huge problems in general, and just further evidence that most of this story wasn't thought out "from the beginning" as some people like to claim now.

 

Look at Konohamaru, in the story it's stated outright that he is spoiled simply because of who his Grandfather is (The Third). Showing proof positive that the village isn't above playing favors with the children of the elite.

 

Yet Naruto Minato's very own child is ignored? It would have been one thing if it was stated from the beginning that everyone thought that the 4th and the rest of his family died, including his unborn child. Of course that didn't happen, so I'm assuming everyone knows that Minato was expecting a child and then hey look there is this kid the looks like a mix between the 4th Hokage and his wife.....

 

His wife who also just happened to be the former container of the demon fox.... oh and Naruto has the same last name as his mother... a name that is not well known in the sense that it doesn't have a large clan base in the village, instead they are known basically as the cousins of the Senju who aren't normally members of the leaf....

 

Yet no one in a society of ninjas was able to put the pieces together.... Not anyone from Kakashi's generation? Or Minato's generation could figure it out?

 

Oh and for some reason people think Naruto "Is the fox demon"...... even though we later learn that a whole culture has been built up around the idea of humans playing host to the tailed beast..... and Naruto's mother another host was gladly accepted by the village because she loved the 4th who loved her.... yet... people think Naruto is the fox demon... how? Why?

 

I mean beyond the whole "The Uchiha decided to prove they are innocent by trying to take over the village and murder the one man who tried to protect them and keep peace...." idea, this one has to be on the stupidest problems wit this back story... and a huge one at that!

 

Everyone hates Naruto except for his first teacher.... a great story in and of itself no doubt but once we learn the rest of the story it doesn't make sense.

[rocci]

@tiller
How about garra? I mean garra is the son of 4th kazekage, it seem people hate him too.

[Tiller]

Young kakashi is def parallel to Sasuke, and most ninjas have some kind of elemental power; Sakura's revealed in the databook

On the surface that's very true. Of course once you get beyond that it's not really true. Honestly the things they have in common are outnumbered by their differences.

 

They both were "geniuses", who were driven by their family honor (Sasuke for being an Uchiha, Kakashi because of his father), who was the cold hearted "cool guy" in a love triangle on his team.

 

Of course their big differences strip aside the surface connections. Kakashi grew closer to his team and the village the more people he lost, Sasuke grew further apart the more tragedy that was in his life. Kakashi although regretful for his inaction choose to get closer even to the people he found annoying (like Guy) because he never wanted to lose a member of his team/village again like that, Sasuke was more then willing to sacrifice member of his "team" if it meant reaching his goal because his desires mattered more then the lives of others. Kakashi learned the importance of teamwork, and of course Sasuke tried to prove he was the perfect incarnation of revenge and could do whatever he wanted on his own.

 

I guess you could just say Kakashi grew up and acted like many real world veterans... full of regret but still in the fight to help protect his fellow soldiers out of a sense of comradeship and a sense of duty.... well Sasuke just kind of went ape kitten crazy with is own selfish wants and desires.

 

I'm glad you enjoyed my second "Kishimoto talking about his wife" joke earlier too. :-)

[Tiller]

@tiller
How about garra? I mean garra is the son of 4th kazekage, it seem people hate him too.

The sand were shown to be more militant then the leaf. The whole point of the start of part 2 was about how the sand's culture was changing to fall more in line with the leafs. Lady Chiyo talks about it herself, how the turned people solely into weapons in order to breed great warriors so the Sand could stand on its own against the world.

 

"Improving your own village's capability should always be top priority. They are them, and we are us! True alliances are nothing more than pipe dreams. At difficult times, when you really need them, the best you get are useless foot soldiers."

 

"I'm happy that someone like you has appeared in the world of shinobi that we foolish old people created. Everything I've ever done was a mistake. But now, at the end, it looks like I'll finally be able to do the right thing. The Sand Village and Konoha. Their future will be much different than the way things were back in my day. That strange power of yours that Kakashi mentioned… That power will have a strong influence on the future. Become a Hokage like none before you."

 

The Sand kept the host people away from the village, to be used as one final weapon. The Leaf on the other hand saw Kushina as a valued member of their society, they didn't keep her hidden in a cave she lived within the community and eventually became the first lady of the entire village.

 

The Will of Fire didn't exist in the Sand's militant lands. Frankly as far as the Sand was concerned so long as Garra could be controlled his blood lust was a positive element. It meant he would grant them more power.

[rocci]

@tiller
Thanks, I agree with that.

[BlackBird19]

@Shadow: I live in Austin and have known Alex Jones for quite a few years. Please never post him again, that dude's major paranoid kitten.

[Aizen-Sama]

How about himalaya?
Is it because Hinata twin mountain

 

Himawari =

Hinata's

Insolent

Macabre

Ass

Whirling

After

Ripped

Insides

[Narufan85]

If I'm not mistaken, toriyama want to end db in freiza arc.

  

I always thought this was the case.

Honestly it's one of the huge problems in general, and just further evidence that most of this story wasn't thought out "from the beginning" as some people like to claim now.
 
Look at Konohamaru, in the story it's stated outright that he is spoiled simply because of who his Grandfather is (The Third). Showing proof positive that the village isn't above playing favors with the children of the elite.
 
Yet Naruto Minato's very own child is ignored? It would have been one thing if it was stated from the beginning that everyone thought that the 4th and the rest of his family died, including his unborn child. Of course that didn't happen, so I'm assuming everyone knows that Minato was expecting a child and then hey look there is this kid the looks like a mix between the 4th Hokage and his wife.....
 
His wife who also just happened to be the former container of the demon fox.... oh and Naruto has the same last name as his mother... a name that is not well known in the sense that it doesn't have a large clan base in the village, instead they are known basically as the cousins of the Senju who aren't normally members of the leaf....
 
Yet no one in a society of ninjas was able to put the pieces together.... Not anyone from Kakashi's generation? Or Minato's generation could figure it out?
 
Oh and for some reason people think Naruto "Is the fox demon"...... even though we later learn that a whole culture has been built up around the idea of humans playing host to the tailed beast..... and Naruto's mother another host was gladly accepted by the village because she loved the 4th who loved her.... yet... people think Naruto is the fox demon... how? Why?
 
I mean beyond the whole "The Uchiha decided to prove they are innocent by trying to take over the village and murder the one man who tried to protect them and keep peace...." idea, this one has to be on the stupidest problems wit this back story... and a huge one at that!
 
Everyone hates Naruto except for his first teacher.... a great story in and of itself no doubt but once we learn the rest of the story it doesn't make sense.

Naruto's treatment by the village given his parentage, his lack of knowledge about them, and the absence of any anger over being denied such information always drives me crazy.

[FireFox]

I'm sorry but I hate Kakashi's guts  this ending also ruined him  beyond believe  whether you like it or not  sign.

 

1. Kakashi neglected his students and played favorites no excuses for that absolutely none. This ending if anything confirms that even more .   

 

2.Becomes Hokage a kitten one on pair with Naruto and he took that role out of pity and bc the "Coolest Guy" said so WTF !!!  .  

 

3. He broke every single one of his rules as a "sensei and shinobi" he was turned into a kittening hypocrite. 

 

-"Those who break the rules are scum , but those who abandon their friends/comrades are even worse then scum"  What happened to this !? What does Kakashi do in the end !? He forgives Sasuke for and absolve him of  his actions and every crime  lying the kitten out of it bc he is his "student" (much like Suckura and Nardo ), and before that  he kittening pushed Sasuke forced him into "loving" Sakura , he excused every kitten that Sasuke did to Sakura bc she "loves" him  despite knowing how much its damaging Sakura and its toxic for her . 693 wasn't pro KS sensei/student moment  its was anti and disgusting as kitten. 

 

Instead of helping Sakura like he should and tell her that her love is not healthy  he excuses the kitten out of it  and plays the matchmaker despite  turning down Rin for the same reasons SS doesn't work .  As a Sensei that's the most disgusting thing that Kakashi could have done  .

 

I don't see what's so good about Kakashi  or how can anyone defend him when the essence of his character his principles were ruined and turned to kitten  much like this whole manga and every MC  they were RETCONED as kitten . There is just no redeeming this kitten  even with his shallow  coolness that Kikitten/SP are trying to play now with the stupid reveal of his face . 

[rocci]

@narutofirefox
He's a cool and likeable character who has tragic back story and could deal with it. I think that's enough to make people like him.

@shadow
Naruto and obito parallel is strong.

Both of them want to become hokage, a fool, have rivalry with the cool guy, love the girl of the team who love their rival.

Anyway kakarin is ss parallel, kakashi doesn't love rin because that is obito.
Obirin is not canon since rin never said she love obito.

[luffyq1]

On the surface that's very true. Of course once you get beyond that it's not really true. Honestly the things they have in common are outnumbered by their differences.

 

They both were "geniuses", who were driven by their family honor (Sasuke for being an Uchiha, Kakashi because of his father), who was the cold hearted "cool guy" in a love triangle on his team.

 

Of course their big differences strip aside the surface connections. Kakashi grew closer to his team and the village the more people he lost, Sasuke grew further apart the more tragedy that was in his life. Kakashi although regretful for his inaction choose to get closer even to the people he found annoying (like Guy) because he never wanted to lose a member of his team/village again like that, Sasuke was more then willing to sacrifice member of his "team" if it meant reaching his goal because his desires mattered more then the lives of others. Kakashi learned the importance of teamwork, and of course Sasuke tried to prove he was the perfect incarnation of revenge and could do whatever he wanted on his own.

 

I guess you could just say Kakashi grew up and acted like many real world veterans... full of regret but still in the fight to help protect his fellow soldiers out of a sense of comradeship and a sense of duty.... well Sasuke just kind of went ape kitten crazy with is own selfish wants and desires.

 

I'm glad you enjoyed my second "Kishimoto talking about his wife" joke earlier too. :-)

now you got me thinking that minato wasn't suppose to be his father and that kushina was thought up years later and decided to make her a jinchuuriki.

[LuckyChi7]

   I screwed with an NH/SS fan's mind and oh boy I'm having a field day right now.

[AHK]

now you got me thinking that minato wasn't suppose to be his father and that kushina was thought up years later and decided to make her a jinchuuriki.

Wouldn't surprise me. Like honestly, the Uchihas were the only thing that mattered in this abomination of a story. The man didn't even have the semblance to go into his MC's lineage. He was one of two Uzumaki alive at the start of the war, yet we know nothing about the Uzumaki or what happened to the. Kishi is such a hack.