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[elmas]

If you thought Sakura imploding this chapter was something, just wait until you see the next chapter. "Sasukehhh you're my friend, right?!?!" Just giving you guys a little sample of Naruto's dialogue.

Lol.

Let's be honest here,

Naruto is very obsessed with Sasuke

Sakura is too stubborn and obsessed with Sasuke.But specially she's stubborn

Sasuke,well this guy is weird.

Edited by elmas, 26 September 2014 - 03:28 PM.

[luffyq1]

Not really. If you're worried about Naruto's happiness, I can assure you he'll live a happily ever after as long as Sasuke returns. After all, Sasuke is the most important person in Naruto's life. Sasuke is Naruto's brother and their bond are the most important in the manga. Don't worry. He's not going to be sad. There is Sasuke.

Exactly. I don't really understand how anyone can feel bad for Naruto. He's the main character and as such he's going to eventually get everything he wants by default. He'll become hokage, he'll have Sakura's love and most importantly he'll save Sasuke. 

Edited by luffyq1, 26 September 2014 - 03:29 PM.

[六道仙人]

Exactly. I don't really understand how anyone can feel bad for Naruto. He's the main character and as such he's going to eventually get everything he wants by default. He'll become hokage, he'll have Sakura's love he will watch SS sex happily and most importantly he'll save Sasuke. 

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[Otaru]

He said that she still loves him but only differently, so I belive that is what is happening now which doesn't contradict what Kakashi says if u think about it.

Well people are saying what Sakura said was romantic. So it's the same love as before. And it's contradicting with what Kakashi said.
That's why I don't understand what Kishi is doing. Because he put efforts in making us think her feelings changed, and then she's saying I love you. It's making no sense.

Edited by Otaru, 26 September 2014 - 03:31 PM.

[luffyq1]

fixed

lol I'm dead. 

[elmas]

fixed

Lmao.Nah he has Hinata.

[Serenity Namikaze]

Sakura has absolutely no understanding of real love. She's still hung up on that 12-year old image she created without any good reason to love Sasuke (something Sasuke said himself ironically). She's trapped in her low self-esteem  and even feels like it's all her fault for how Sasuke is, deprecating herself degradingly. It's so pitiful I feel bad for her. It's like Sakura doesn't think she deserves happy love because of everything she's used to with Sasuke and that's why she keeps his thing for him going. It's literally all the girl knows. That's not anger-inducing ... that's tragic.

 

But it's still appalling to my eyes to see Sakura beg and cry to Sasuke with a love confession when I truly believed she was more evolved than this. When Sakura had that pissed off expression, I got excited and expected her to finally tell off Sasuke but all I got was more of the same and then some. Worse actually, because it gives vague undertones of P1 Sakura and it's just so hard to watch as her fan.

 

I thought I'd be angry with Sakura, but the truth is I'm not. I'm angry at Kishimoto for making her character development regress a bit and I feel incredibly sorry for Sakura at the same time. She is better than this and she can be, but Kishimoto is taking way too long to resolve it. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke have always been unrealistic, but this takes the cake.

 

It's funny because, in a way, this chapter reminds of uncomfortably extreme version of what I originally thought before 675. Sakura does still love Sasuke and for whatever reason refuses to see her true feelings for Naruto. There is no doubt she has them, but the girl is so freakin' confused and trapped in learned helplessness through Sasuke that she can't see what is really love when it's right in front of her.

 

However, even I never expected Sakura to be like this. I never thought she would make such an emotional display so openly after everything's that happened. Sure, Sakura is guilty, sad, ashamed of her feelings but to plead to him so spinelessly and cling on desperately to the appeal to any shred of the old Sasuke, it's just ... wow. This is the guy who hasn't done a decent thing for her in four years and she would still lower herself in front of everyone like nothing's changed.

 

I said it before and I truly mean it. I would be okay if Sakura still loved Sasuke and didn't fall for Naruto, but I can't handle her chasing after Sasuke again. At the very least, whether she still feels those things or not, she needs to grow up and realize she deserves better. That she needs to try to move on not because Sasuke's not interested, but because she wants to. And if she truly didn't love Naruto, I would simply be happy she had esteem to make this choice and stay single. She doesn't need to love Naruto. She just needs to like herself.

 

Sakura did regress definitely, but I still don't think it's not to the extent of Part 1. Sakura's goal is still Team 7 being together again, not being with him romantically and she does see how horrible Sasuke has become. That's still better than how she used to be, though at the same time her development took two steps backwards.

 

There is only one major thing that makes me mad. And no, it's not that Sakura confessed her love for Sasuke in front of Naruto. She was clearly desperate. It was the fact that Sakura focuses on her feelings for Sasuke. She vents how much pain he causes her, how much she cares but gives no input on how Kakashi and Naruto feel for him and go through. But what makes it really bad is that Sakura already did this. In Part 1 she threw all her cards down and that didn't even stop Sasuke then. Where, in her miserable mind with the way Sasuke is now, did she think that would work? It's redundant and makes it look like Sakura learned nothing.

 

I'm so disappointed in this chapter. I would've handled Sakura's speech much better if she talked about what they all suffered and went through for Sasuke yet still cared, not just her. It made Sakura look selfish and she's supposed to be more about T7 at this point, not Sasuke. I honestly don't know what the hell Kishi was smoking when he wrote this.

 

As pairing-wise ... SasuSaku is definitely dead as far as canon, no questions asked on my front. This last emotional outburst and callback to the SS confession combined with all the emphasis on her suffering practically cements that. And NaruSaku will still be canon, though I'm very sad to say it will not be satisfactory or realistic.

 

Really nice post xxRomanceGirlxx

 

I completely agree with you and I couldn't said it better myself. I really love NaruSaku but right now the Sakura fan in me can't help but to be extremely disapointed in Kishimoto. Even if there was hints here and there that show that Sakura still have romantic feelings for Sasuke, I never would have imagine that, at this point, after seeing Sasuke acted that way during the war and not trusting him, that she would still feel that way about him but even more so, looking so desperate like that. While I don't see her as bad as when she first shout it to Sasuke, I agree that she took 2 steps back in this chapter.

 

I'm with you when you say that Sakura has no real understanding as to what true love is. She is aware that her love for Sasuke is pathetic but I think the real problem, to me at least,  is not just about her love for someone like Sasuke but her self esteem that is a big problem. When Sai said to Sakura that Naruto loves her and then she reply later ' the fool is in love with me so let me handle it'', I felt like she was wondering how can that fool be in love with me, I don't deserve it, that's the vibe that I got on this part. She needs to learn to be confident in herself as a girl before accepting the love that Naruto has for her and acccept to embrace it. She has gain self esteeem on the battle field yet as a girl, she just don't seem like that much confident, the only time I see her confident is when it's about Naruto and to me it's really sad and this is something that I think Kishi really need to work on it and fast because if she can't learn to have self esteem in herself that she deserves love, how can she truly love someone else?

 

As for dealing with her feelings toward Sasuke again I agree with you, I want her to completely move on not because Sasuke doesn't like her but because she truly want to.

 

At this point, I'm more concerned about Sakura's developement then the pairing because if Sakura doesn't have that self esteem of deserving love and also the understanding what true love is then I don't even want any NaruSaku moments, to me that would not feel right at all

 

 

I'm disapointed in this chapter and frustrated I admit at Kishi but I'll still wait because it's not finish yet and I still think that Kishi could save this mess that to me shouldn't have occur at this point in the manga. Even if right now it's hard to believe ( even for me that is really optomistic person), I still think that Kishi could make a good ending for NaruSakura but first, like I said before, he really needs to work on Sakura's developement as a character, her self esteem first and then the rest can come.

 

Anyway, that's my opinion on the subject but in the end, I'll wait and see.

[Chatte]

Well people are saying what Sakura said was romantic. So it's the same love as before. And it's contradicting with what Kakashi said.

And that is why I wrote that post about the usage of love expressions in Kishi's manga. Ofc I am not saying I am totally right, it just makes sense. Kishi made Sakura use the same daisuki we saw he made Hinata use. But what do we actually know about the portrayal of that type of love? It's selfish and unconsiderate of the other part. Or...what if the meaning was totally wrong analyzed by us? What if Kakashi referred at her childish type of love from back then and now he refers that her love is no longer childish but rooted deeply in her kind nature?
Tbh, this fits better in a way... Idk, i will wait and read all over again after few chapters xuz usually that is when i get the catch if I didnt do it in the first place.

[六道仙人]

Well people are saying what Sakura said was romantic. So it's the same love as before. And it's contradicting with what Kakashi said.
That's why I don't understand what Kishi is doing. Because he put efforts in making us think her feelings changed, and then she's saying I love you. It's making no sense.

 

yeah,, it wasn't a planotic love, rather romantic... she said "Daisuki".

[Otaru]

And that is why I wrote that post about the usage of love expressions in Kishi's manga. Ofc I am not saying I am totally right, it just makes sense. Kishi made Sakura use the same daisuki we saw he made Hinata use. But what do we actually know about the portrayal of that type of love? It's selfish and unconsiderate of the other part. Or...what if the meaning was totally wrong analyzed by us? What if Kakashi referred at her childish type of love from back then and now he refers that her love is no longer childish but rooted deeply in her kind nature?
Tbh, this fits better in a way... Idk, i will wait and read all over again after few chapters xuz usually that is when i get the catch if I didnt do it in the first place.

Well maybe it will be more clear with the raw but right now, to me, it feels contradicting and I don't understand Kishi's point about Sakura. What was the point of making Kakashi said her feelings changed if that's not the case ? There must be something we're missing.

Edited by Otaru, 26 September 2014 - 03:40 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I'm confused. Is it love in past tense or present tense? The translation I read was 'loved' and so my interpretation was going off the use of the past tense of the word, but if it is 'love' then I have to admit I'm disappointed. Not because of NaruSaku or anything pairing related, but because I still had an ounce of faith in Kishimoto's writing that Sakura had grown past that. I don't know what to think now, I guess Kishi really has dropped the ball on every aspect of this story and its characters. I don't know what he's doing at all.

[elmas]

I'm confused. Is it love in past tense or present tense? The translation I read was 'loved' and so my interpretation was going off the use of the past tense of the word, but if it is 'love' then I have to admit I'm disappointed. Not because of NaruSaku or anything pairing related, but because I still had an ounce of faith in Kishimoto's writing that Sakura had grown past that. I don't know what to think now, I guess Kishi really has dropped the ball on every aspect of this story and its characters. I don't know what he's doing at all.

Present tense.

[lupina]

Sakura is yet to come to a realization. And this is the path Kishi takes. Similar a bit to RTN with manga elements ofc. 
And her realization comes from Sasuke's own actions. Not to mention, there is the forehead comment. Remembber that card hasn't been played yet. Doesn't make you guys wonder WHY? I already wrote a post on my blog about it... It is all still in the way jap media portrays love...
Just yiu wait...

 

 

I'mm gonna put this as a background on my phone and read it every morning.

Jeez ... time kills me ... 

[Chatte]

Well maybe it will be more clear with the raw but right now, to me, it feels contradicting and I don't understand Kishi's point about Sakura. What was the point of making Kakashi said her feelings changed if that's not the case ?

Oh there are lots of point Kishi conveys now... But I am just gonna have some patience because I know every time he puts her downn is only to raise her up afterwards.

[Qia]

Oh wait so we know from the raws now that she meant a romantic love? So basically it was a romantic love confession or???

[Chatte]

Oh wait so we know from the raws now that she meant a romantic love? So basically it was a romantic love confession or???

Yup, apparently daisuki was used. But i don't belive it is a confession, but her venting and making a last plea to him by assuring him that he is still important to her and they can always get back to the old days. But as I said I see it more as venting than anything else given her facial expression.

[elmas]

 

Same here, funny thing is I didn't discover this site until Volume 64's cover came out, and by then I felt relieved cause during that time Sakura made her to speech to the shinobi alliance about not giving up. Of course there was also the girlfriend comment from Minato which was pretty insane. 

 

 

Let's just say within 30 minutes (I believe)  Naruto Forums had crashed, and it was interesting seeing all the fandom's reaction. Surprisingly enough I was able to convince two SasuSaku fans and two NaruHina fans why NaruSaku makes sense, and after they heard my reasoning they jumped to NS.

Yeah I can imagine the kitten storm.And they finally saw the light.

 

Funny thing is I was talking with them about yesterdays chapter, and we were like the volume just started there's still like 7-8 chapters before it comes to an end. This is only the beginning for Sakura to recognize and resolve her feelings. 

 

Exactly.This is just the beginning.I'm sure she will realize the truth.It's not good to judge her now.Let's not be prejuicied.

[ns.Believe.It]

Some of the things I am seeing on the chapter tag on tumblr. God  Its filled with SS 'logic'. 

[Otaru]

Oh there are lots of point Kishi conveys now... But I am just gonna have some patience because I know every time he puts her downn is only to raise her up afterwards.

Yeah I think too he's setting her up for later. But I thought mangapanda was the right version. I'm really chocked it's more mangastream.

[DarkRadeon]

Everyone is so negative here.It looks as if I will be sticking to the NaruSaku fan club of NF as people are more positive there.lol