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[redragon88]

I really hope that Sakura's role in Road to Ninja is more than just dealing with Sasuke. I'll be really disappointed if that's her only purpose for remaining herself in the movie. At the very least we got that sketch of Naruto and Sakura running around together so it's not like they'll be separated all of the movie or something.

When I first heard that Kishi made her a main character for the movie I was exited about the possibilities her role could fulfill, but so far I've felt kind of disappointed since everything about her in the movie seems to revolve around Sasuke. I really hope that the long trailer will at least show us scenes of Naruto and Sakura interacting and not just be about her being around Sasuke.

I'll be saddened if Sakura's purpose in the movie is just to realize that AU Sasuke is not the real one and that she wants the real Sasuke even if he's not perfect. Chapter 540 already showed us where Sakura stands with her feelings with Sasuke so it'd be a waste of screen time to just have her there for a repeat of the same freaking thing. If her development in the movie is just going to amount to that then it would've been better to just have Naruto enter the genjutsu world alone.

I really wouldn't understand why Kishi went out of his way to make Sakura a centric figure in this movie only for her role to be that sub-par.

[Dalton.T.R]

One quick replay, every single forum I read thinks that way, that is the main reason why I stop going to other Forums because I'm really tired of it, even in H & E N they say that they wish Kishi could clear that confession up to keep haters quiet, you hear people saying, don't go to YouTube, don't go to YouTube, many places already have that belief, they already spread the Sakura lying to naru all over the internet. Even 2 forums in Japan I read using the Google translate thinks Sakura lied to him. Now after you keep hearing Sakura lied to Naruto don't you think Kishi should just shut them up already it has being 2 + years since her confession and the Sakura Bashing that started because of it, I think is time for Kishi to cleat that up.

Again no one is saying Sakura doesn't have any feelings for Naruto, what I am saying that I'm tire of the Sakura lied to Naruto everywhere I go. It's freaking annoying that's why I wish Kishi could cleard that up.

I get the feeling that people wouldn't pay attention anyway. With how often his interviews get mistranslated, and the fact that Periot has something to do with that doesn't help at all. If he's going to do it, he'll have to do it in a chapter.

[Transformers03]

Tell me, did they do a recent simple random sample from fans all across the world to determine if exactly 78% of all fans believe Sakura was lying about her love to Naruto?

What I think is the problem, again, is that people are thinking WAYYYY too much about what the other fandoms think. OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO THINK SAKURA WAS LYING. They don't like NS, they're biased! They'll deny anything that could affect their pairing in any way, facts are not important because they don't want to believe in the facts, they want to believe in their pairing.

Then you have skeptics in general and that's perfectly fine to be a bit skeptical because the scene was confusing, but if Kishi said she was telling the truth, then I don't know why it's still up for debate or why people are so upset about people who are obviously going to believe opposite of what we believe.

Don't just spit out numbers to make your argument seem more relevant because it is most likely completely wrong or exaggerated. Maybe 78% of western NH or SS or LS fans believes she was lying, but honestly, that all that matters is what you believe until someone brings up a valid point that the mangaka himself has already cleared up.

But aren't we biased for anything that has to do with Narusaku, so isn't are word untrust worthy either?

And in that interview where Kishi said she was telling the truth, he also said that Sakura really does love Sasuke and chapter 540 seems to reaffirm that statement. Even in the part where he said she was telling the truth, he was mostly IMPLYING she was telling the truth.
'' I want to portray Sakura as an honest, yet stubborn girl...'' (paraphrasing)

So what 'facts' are we going on that are better than what are fandoms give?

[kirabook]

But aren't we biased for anything that has to do with Narusaku, so isn't are word untrust worthy either?

And in that interview where Kishi said she was telling the truth, he also said that Sakura really does love Sasuke and chapter 540 seems to reaffirm that statement. Even in the part where he said she was telling the truth, he was mostly IMPLYING she was telling the truth.
'' I want to portray Sakura as an honest, yet stubborn girl...'' (paraphrasing)

So what 'facts' are we going on that are better than what are fandoms give?

We may be biased, but we don't need to be biased when things are in our favor. Sakura was telling the truth about her feelings for Naruto and just about everyone already knows she was lying about not caring for Sasuke. Even Naruto knew that part was a lie.

Some don't really like that she has any feelings remaining for Sasuke but some are there. That still doesn't cancel our her love for Naruto at all, and thus far in my opinion, her love for Naruto is stronger than Sasuke's.

[Don-kun]

I get the feeling that people wouldn't pay attention anyway. With how often his interviews get mistranslated, and the fact that Periot has something to do with that doesn't help at all. If he's going to do it, he'll have to do it in a chapter.

That is what I been saying all along, it will not take him more that one panel and one speech bubble where Sakura say something like, Naruto you were wrong when you say that I was lying to myself, but I cannot blame you that is what I made you believe all this years. then ends it right there he will not be spoiling any pairing and he will shut up the haters mouth.

But aren't we biased for anything that has to do with Narusaku, so isn't are word untrust worthy either?

And in that interview where Kishi said she was telling the truth, he also said that Sakura really does love Sasuke and chapter 540 seems to reaffirm that statement. Even in the part where he said she was telling the truth, he was mostly IMPLYING she was telling the truth.
'' I want to portray Sakura as an honest, yet stubborn girl...'' (paraphrasing)

So what 'facts' are we going on that are better than what are fandoms give?

This is another Issue I have, him saying that Sakura was being honest and he wanted to portray Sakura as an honest girl, yet with a stubborn impression, then when they ask him about Sakura feelings for Naruto, he said Naruto is close but Sakura still loves ....., he already made it obvious to the reader through the Manga that she still has feeling for the emo, but he refuses to make it obvious through the Manga that Sakura was being honest. people were not happy about it, and if they was questioning if she still love Sasuke and he made it obvious in 540, why if they question him about the confession why he cannot made that obvious too?

Edited by NS means logic, 29 June 2012 - 05:02 AM.

[Transformers03]

That is what I been saying all along, it will not take him more that one panel and one speech bubble where Sakura say something like, Naruto you were wrong when you say that I was lying to myself, but I cannot blame you that is what I made you believe all this years. then ends it right there he will not be spoiling any pairing and he will shut up the haters mouth.



This is another Issue I have, him saying that Sakura was being honest and he wanted to portray Sakura as an honest girl, yet with a stubborn impression, then when they ask him about Sakura feelings for Naruto, he said Naruto is close but Sakura still loves ....., he already made it obvious to the reader through the Manga that she still has feeling for the emo, but he refuses to make it obvious through the Manga that Sakura was being honest. people were not happy about it, and if they was questioning if she still love Sasuke and he made it obvious in 540, why if they question him about the confession why he cannot made that obvious too?

Maybe he's holding it out so more people will read the manga to see when the hell he's going to reveal that.
Or maybe it will never be brought up again.

[Verilance]

Kishimoto owes his fans nothing except a new chapter every week, if they choose to interpret the manga wrong that is their look out. He has made it clear about how Sakura feels all along, She has feelings for Sasuke, her childhood crush and she has feelings for Naruto her best friend and companion...

In reality we know how it is going to turn out because Kishimoto has made no attempt to hide this fact

but in Sakura's mind the decision has not been made...

[Gravenimage]

Kishimoto owes his fans nothing except a new chapter every week, if they choose to interpret the manga wrong that is their look out. He has made it clear about how Sakura feels all along, She has feelings for Sasuke, her childhood crush and she has feelings for Naruto her best friend and companion...

In reality we know how it is going to turn out because Kishimoto has made no attempt to hide this fact

but in Sakura's mind the decision has not been made...

One thing is clear though. Yes Sakura may have feelings for both, but we already know she loves Naruto more than Sasuke through her actions.

[Paptala]

Kishimoto's built up Sakura's feelings for Naruto so gradually, but so clearly in hindsight that it seems unbelievable to think that he's going to just leave her feelings for Naruto where they are at.

She's been falling in love with Naruto (pretty much without her knowledge imo), while retaining feelings for the memory of who Sasuke was (even after that brief first reunion). It wasn't until the second reunion at the summit that caused her perception of Sasuke to change drastically (for obvious reasons), and then Kishimoto shows us what could very well be the first step in Sakura finally reevaluating her feelings for Sasuke and letting go of them.

Edited by Paptala, 29 June 2012 - 11:13 AM.

[Living Lavish]

But aren't we biased for anything that has to do with Narusaku, so isn't are word untrust worthy either?

And in that interview where Kishi said she was telling the truth, he also said that Sakura really does love Sasuke and chapter 540 seems to reaffirm that statement. Even in the part where he said she was telling the truth, he was mostly IMPLYING she was telling the truth.
'' I want to portray Sakura as an honest, yet stubborn girl...'' (paraphrasing)

So what 'facts' are we going on that are better than what are fandoms give?

''On the contrary i felt i potrayed a honest girl with a stubburn impression''

[Don-kun]

Maybe he's holding it out so more people will read the manga to see when the hell he's going to reveal that.
Or maybe it will never be brought up again.

I'm pretty sure does fans that love Naruto in an hardcore way, if they find out Sakura was honest to Naruto, Sakura might win them back as fans, the NH, SasuNaru and SS fans that bash her for lying to him will look like stupids and the fans that are neutral will not be influenced by her hater anymore, at the end of the day he didn't spoil the pairing drama and Sakura will start gaining some new fans, writers may care about all his character, but in reality writers cares more about his main characters.

Edited by NS means logic, 29 June 2012 - 05:29 PM.

[Transformers03]

Lately I have been doubting myself on this whole Narusaku thing. I'm not saying I'm losing hope, or stop believing, because to me it wasn't about faith it was about how I interpreted the manga and where all the facts were leading to. It was all about logic, not what I wanted, though what I wanted was what the manga seem to be pointing to: Naruto and Sakura getting together.

All the evidence was there: the sanin parallel, the Promise of the Lifetime, the 4-tails incident, Yamato's unfinished sentence, the (almost) feeding scene, the hug, and, of course, the confession. But then the war started, and for about 100 chapters we haven't seen Naruto interact with Sakura. To make things worse, we got a Naruhina scene (looking into each other's eyes) and the fact that Hinata says she is going to try hold Naruto's hands after the war. To me that meant I was wrong, and I was angry of how wrong I interpreted things.

Instead of re-watching (or re-reading) the series again, I decided to do the lazy thing and look up what random people on internet say about this whole thing. At first I tried to be fair, I read many forums where both sides are arguing, but I stop when I realize that in online arguments, after awhile, both sides won't stand down and they will start saying stupid things. So instead I looked up proof. I admit I looked harder for Narusaku proof than Naruhina proof, but I tried to be fair and open-minded. In fact I started getting comfortable with the idea of Naruhina, even if I don't like it, many people will love it.

But the proof I found for Narusaku just.......made more sense. The things that I found out just surprised me, like the Minakushi parallel, I didn't notice when I first read it, but it made sense. There were other things: in the last data book it said that Sakura is confused for her feelings for Naruto, the theme that the new generation will always surpass the previous generation thus what Jariaya failed at Naruto will succeed (like saving Orochimaru/Sasuke and getting with Tsunde(?)/Sakura), and very subtle things that happen in Part 1 of the series (ex: like there 'date'*). I never found any of these with the Naruhina proof, all I got was the same thing: the blood vow, her confession, the 'in your eyes' thing, and her recent statement about finally trying to get with Naruto. It was stuff I already knew, and they always seem to make Hinata so much more important than she actually is.

So I thought all the proof was in Narusaku, and, to be honest, I still do. I was even almost to the point of no doubt, cause 1) I was able to find more facts of Narusaku than Naruhina, and 2) I was able to get rid of Sasusaku as possible pairing because it was too one-sided and didn't match the series interpretation of what love is.

But now I'm doubting myself because I found that one of the data books it said that Sakura fills Sasuke's lonely existence. I never remember seeing Sasuke think of Sakura as more than a close friend, but if the data books said something like that, then I'm probably missing something. Either I misinterpreted all those times that Sasuke and Sakura are together or the author portrayed it very horribly. But that statement shows that Sasusaku is not as one-sided as I thought, this implies that Sasuke may be able to recuperate those feelings for Sakura.

Also, I looked up more stuff about Naruhina. Nothing new, but I read some of the comments and some people said they are 100% sure that Naruhina will happen. Now I know it's all opinion, but how are they so for sure that it will happen? What what makes them so much more confident in their pairing than I do with mine? What secret Naruhina event happen in the story that made them so for sure of it happening? If any of you have any Naruhina fans who are confident about that pairing happening, ask them why. I want to know there reasons.

So, yeah I feel doubtful, but that to me is a good thing. If I wasn't doubting it, then I would of thought I was being to one-sided on this issue to really understand the whole picture. If I start thinking things through a different point of view, or through different logic, then I understand the situation much more clearly. But this doubt is different, now I'm starting to doubt of how I saw the whole manga. Now I just want to know more information of why some Naruhina fans are so confident.

*I know it wasn't a real date, but seeing that Hinata never really even got a fake date with Naruto, or the fact that Naruto never blushed at anything that Hinata said or did (unlike Sakura for Naruto), shows a lot.

[Living Lavish]

Lately I have been doubting myself on this whole Narusaku thing. I'm not saying I'm losing hope, or stop believing, because to me it wasn't about faith it was about how I interpreted the manga and where all the facts were leading to. It was all about logic, not what I wanted, though what I wanted was what the manga seem to be pointing to: Naruto and Sakura getting together.

All the evidence was there: the sanin parallel, the Promise of the Lifetime, the 4-tails incident, Yamato's unfinished sentence, the (almost) feeding scene, the hug, and, of course, the confession. But then the war started, and for about 100 chapters we haven't seen Naruto interact with Sakura. To make things worse, we got a Naruhina scene (looking into each other's eyes) and the fact that Hinata says she is going to try hold Naruto's hands after the war. To me that meant I was wrong, and I was angry of how wrong I interpreted things.

Instead of re-watching (or re-reading) the series again, I decided to do the lazy thing and look up what random people on internet say about this whole thing. At first I tried to be fair, I read many forums where both sides are arguing, but I stop when I realize that in online arguments, after awhile, both sides won't stand down and they will start saying stupid things. So instead I looked up proof. I admit I looked harder for Narusaku proof than Naruhina proof, but I tried to be fair and open-minded. In fact I started getting comfortable with the idea of Naruhina, even if I don't like it, many people will love it.

But the proof I found for Narusaku just.......made more sense. The things that I found out just surprised me, like the Minakushi parallel, I didn't notice when I first read it, but it made sense. There were other things: in the last data book it said that Sakura is confused for her feelings for Naruto, the theme that the new generation will always surpass the previous generation thus what Jariaya failed at Naruto will succeed (like saving Orochimaru/Sasuke and getting with Tsunde(?)/Sakura), and very subtle things that happen in Part 1 of the series (ex: like there 'date'*). I never found any of these with the Naruhina proof, all I got was the same thing: the blood vow, her confession, the 'in your eyes' thing, and her recent statement about finally trying to get with Naruto. It was stuff I already knew, and they always seem to make Hinata so much more important than she actually is.

So I thought all the proof was in Narusaku, and, to be honest, I still do. I was even almost to the point of no doubt, cause 1) I was able to find more facts of Narusaku than Naruhina, and 2) I was able to get rid of Sasusaku as possible pairing because it was too one-sided and didn't match the series interpretation of what love is.

But now I'm doubting myself because I found that one of the data books it said that Sakura fills Sasuke's lonely existence. I never remember seeing Sasuke think of Sakura as more than a close friend, but if the data books said something like that, then I'm probably missing something. Either I misinterpreted all those times that Sasuke and Sakura are together or the author portrayed it very horribly. But that statement shows that Sasusaku is not as one-sided as I thought, this implies that Sasuke may be able to recuperate those feelings for Sakura.

Also, I looked up more stuff about Naruhina. Nothing new, but I read some of the comments and some people said they are 100% sure that Naruhina will happen. Now I know it's all opinion, but how are they so for sure that it will happen? What what makes them so much more confident in their pairing than I do with mine? What secret Naruhina event happen in the story that made them so for sure of it happening? If any of you have any Naruhina fans who are confident about that pairing happening, ask them why. I want to know there reasons.

So, yeah I feel doubtful, but that to me is a good thing. If I wasn't doubting it, then I would of thought I was being to one-sided on this issue to really understand the whole picture. If I start thinking things through a different point of view, or through different logic, then I understand the situation much more clearly. But this doubt is different, now I'm starting to doubt of how I saw the whole manga. Now I just want to know more information of why some Naruhina fans are so confident.

*I know it wasn't a real date, but seeing that Hinata never really even got a fake date with Naruto, or the fact that Naruto never blushed at anything that Hinata said or did (unlike Sakura for Naruto), shows a lot.

Sakura fills hes lonely existence doesn't mean Sasuke had romantic feelings for her (evidence during in future chapters clears that up) he cared for her but it was never hinted that it was anything more then that. Team 7 was like a family to him he thought of her as a comrade and friend. but what you said is more strongly conneted with Naruto in the manga even more so actually during the Narusasu battle in part 1. Naruto is the only one who really got to him emotionaly.

NH have always rave about it becoming canon sicne part 1. But theres no evidence that it will. Its all about Hinata they want her to have everything so she can be happy. Naruto has no say, they don't care about how he feels at all. its pathetic.

also you missed Hinatas smile towards NaruSaku intimate hug. she didn't feel jealous or sad at all i find that as a sign.

out of all the parings Sakura is the only person to show feelings beyond friendship for Naruto in all the unrequited pairings. thats hugh support for us.

plus Kishi said current/future chapters can't change the ending he already determind.

Edited by Living Lavish, 29 June 2012 - 06:23 PM.

[Transformers03]

Sakura fills hes lonely existence doesn't mean Sasuke had romantic feelings for her (evidence during in future chapters clears that up) he cared for her but it was never hinted that it was anything more then that. Team 7 was like a family to him he thought of her as a comrade and friend. but what you said is more strongly conneted with Naruto in the manga even more so actually during the Narusasu battle in part 1. Naruto is the only one who really got to him emotionaly.

Then why didn't the data books said NARUTO and Sakura saved him for his lonely existence. Why only Sakura?

[Living Lavish]

Then why didn't the data books said NARUTO and Sakura saved him for his lonely existence. Why only Sakura?

The manga told you it wasnt just Sakura. it was both.

Because Sasuke said it basically to Naruto during there fight at the end of part 1

He accepted him as his brother who understood loneliness.

Sasuke didn't have romantic feelings for Sakura but he did care about her.

Edited by Living Lavish, 29 June 2012 - 06:37 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

he so much care about her that he tried to kill her three times, he care about her in the past but he abandoned it when he decided to leave the "favela"

[Paptala]

Then why didn't the data books said NARUTO and Sakura saved him for his lonely existence. Why only Sakura?

Go see what Sasuke's entry says about Naruto by himself - I guarantee you it was /way/ more than whatever small tidbit it said about Sakura. After all, he did care about Sakura as a friend and comrade (recall that he did want to save her in the fight against Gaara, and thanked her for expressing care for him in her confession).

It was Naruto whom Orochimaru said was changing Sasuke's heart, and that it was Naruto that he needed to get Sasuke away from for his plan to succeed - not Sakura. And Orochimaru observed a lot of stuff between Sasuke and Sakura in FoD - just saying.

And if you look at Sakura's databook entry, that's the one that's filled with stuff that can't possibly be taken in a platonic way - stuff like "blossoming new feelings" and Naruto's growth causing her heart to beat fast, and her realizations about how Naruto has always been there for her. With that mountain of stuff in comparison to one small line about Sakura in Sasuke's older data book entry, there's no reason to worry.

Edited by Paptala, 29 June 2012 - 09:58 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

People, don't be too down about SS and NH becoming canon in the end. And I think people are forgetting that there's Ino and Karin.

[kirabook]

I think Ino rightfully gave up on Sasuke in a romantic light long long ago...

[Branden]

plus Kishi said current/future chapters can't change the ending he already determind.

When was this interview? and more importantly where can I find it?




And also, I was thinking. How exactly can Sasuke be paired with anyone except Karin? I'm not saying they have a romantic relationship but what I will say is that both of them are criminals. Unless Ino/Sakura/Hinata/Whatever decide to betray Konoha to run off with a fugutive then how can he be with anyone else? I really don't see how Sasuke can return to the leaf at this point.


One arguement though is that Sasuke is going to be a war hero and all will be forgiven.... right so we all forgive you killing Danzo, betraying the leaf, attacking the sumit, working for Orochimaru, working for the Akatsuki, and to top that all off he still hasnt used his eternal mangekyou's new power! assuming that there are new powers with it.... it would suck if all it was is an upgrade to his old ones.... *yawn*

Edited by Branden, 29 June 2012 - 10:09 PM.