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#17761 Ex-psych75

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:43 PM



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Ex-psych75 @ Apr 21 2013, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 21 2013, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, that whole scene and the music was quite touching. I didnt expect there to be so little of sasuke and hinata on the film tbh. I also like sakura fighting Menma. Twas quite awesome.

Agreed. Funny how all of us worked up that these AU! Characters will have roles. I think the shipping goggles were going crazy knowing Kishi is making the movie.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (sakutonaru @ Apr 21 2013, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Sasuke loves no one.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:51 PM

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Sasuke loves no one.

Not even Hinata? shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 21 2013, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sasuke loves no one.

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Apr 21 2013, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not even Hinata? shamefulcry0js.gif

From my perspective, Sasuke loves one man. Itachi. That's it. Though there is potential for Karin as well. I think he's supposed to love Naruto too, but I don't like how their bond was developed and I would've liked to see Sasuke thinking about Naruto more before he went crazy.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Apr 21 2013, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From my perspective, Sasuke loves one man. Itachi. That's it. Though there is potential for Karin as well. I think he's supposed to love Naruto too, but I don't like how their bond was developed and I would've liked to see Sasuke thinking about Naruto more before he went crazy.

But then we would've had to deal with even more NaruSasu shippers. arg.gif

As I see it, Sasuke loves Itachi/the Uchiha Clan and tolerates Team Taka. I'm not sure how he feels about individual members of Konoha (specifically Team 7), because the last time he saw them, he was a homicidal maniac who wanted to destroy everything. So it's a bit complicated, especially with his new "protect Konoha" ambition.

I'm really hoping Kishi doesn't trash his character by writing him all OOC. A "lovey-dovey" Sasuke is the last thing we need. 111193.gif
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (FrenchMyToast @ Apr 21 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But then we would've had to deal with even more NaruSasu shippers. arg.gif

As I see it, Sasuke loves Itachi/the Uchiha Clan and tolerates Team Taka. I'm not sure how he feels about individual members of Konoha (specifically Team 7), because the last time he saw them, he was a homicidal maniac who wanted to destroy everything. So it's a bit complicated, especially with his new "protect Konoha" ambition.

I'm really hoping Kishi doesn't trash his character by writing him all OOC. A "lovey-dovey" Sasuke is the last thing we need. 111193.gif

This is how Sasuke sees it: Uchiha clan, Itachi, Team Taka, Team 7, and Naruto. That's his mind in terms of care factor.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is how Sasuke sees it: Uchiha clan, Itachi, Team Taka, Team 7, and Naruto. That's his mind in terms of care factor.

I agree to some extent. But I think he actually cares for Itachi more than the Uchiha clan in general. Remember that it's Itachi's will that's driving Sasuke to protect Konoha at the moment. Team 7 is tricky because I honestly don't think he cares for Sakura/Kakashi enough for them to be on a list of this caliber. It was always Naruto who he really cared about, which is why I believe he is on a different kind of list entirely. Sasuke grudgingly accepts Naruto as a worthy rival, and he obviously cares enough about defeating him that he went against his own morals and transplanted Itachi's eyes. So while he may not care for Naruto in the same way he does for Itachi, he still does. A lot.

Itachi/Defeating Naruto > Uchiha Clan > Team Taka > Naruto (Honorable Mention; Team 7)

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (FrenchMyToast @ Apr 21 2013, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree to some extent. But I think he actually cares for Itachi more than the Uchiha clan in general. Remember that it's Itachi's will that's driving Sasuke to protect Konoha at the moment. Team 7 is tricky because I honestly don't think he cares for Sakura/Kakashi enough for them to be on a list of this caliber. It was always Naruto who he really cared about, which is why I believe he is on a different kind of list entirely. Sasuke grudgingly accepts Naruto as a worthy rival, and he obviously cares enough about defeating him that he went against his own morals and transplanted Itachi's eyes. So while he may not care for Naruto in the same way he does for Itachi, he still does. A lot.

Itachi/Defeating Naruto > Uchiha Clan > Team Taka > Naruto (Honorable Mention; Team 7)

That's a good way to put it. Naruto is meant to play as a brother for Sasuke as Itachi already approved it. The main question is does Sasuke accept it. That's what is in pending. Itachi is Sasuke's life in a way, so this whole recent development is like his closing development for Itachi by not making it a waste. As for Naruto, that remains to be seen. Uchiha clan is the past family as Team Taka/7 is the present. Itachi was Sasuke's brother as Naruto will be Sasuke's brother that he can pass along. That's how Sasuke's path goes.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a good way to put it. Naruto is meant to play as a brother for Sasuke as Itachi already approved it. The main question is does Sasuke accept it. That's what is in pending. Itachi is Sasuke's life in a way, so this whole recent development is like his closing development for Itachi by not making it a waste. As for Naruto, that remains to be seen. Uchiha clan is the past family as Team Taka/7 is the present. Itachi was Sasuke's brother as Naruto will be Sasuke's brother that he can pass along. That's how Sasuke's path goes.

Mhm now it's time for Sasuke to embrace his Team Taka/Team 7 "family." He was close in Part 1 with T7, but Orochimaru ruined that, and he was always hesitant with Taka. I still believe he sees them more as business associates than family. But what we as NS fans probably care about more is what he thinks of Sakura.

I don't believe all these SS/NH saying that he will love Sakura all of a sudden because he will see how strong of a woman she has become. headscratch.gif There are a lot of holes in that. For one I don't think he's ever stated his romantic preferences. He dislikes fangirls, but what does he like? He obviously wasn't that impressed with Sakura in the Kage Summit Arc, and she hasn't changed too much since then. I think he will always value his bond with Naruto much more than his bond with Sakura. Not exactly a good thing between lovers...
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a good way to put it. Naruto is meant to play as a brother for Sasuke as Itachi already approved it. The main question is does Sasuke accept it. That's what is in pending. Itachi is Sasuke's life in a way, so this whole recent development is like his closing development for Itachi by not making it a waste. As for Naruto, that remains to be seen. Uchiha clan is the past family as Team Taka/7 is the present. Itachi was Sasuke's brother as Naruto will be Sasuke's brother that he can pass along. That's how Sasuke's path goes.

Mhm now it's time for Sasuke to embrace his Team Taka/Team 7 "family." He was close in Part 1 with T7, but Orochimaru ruined that, and he was always hesitant with Taka. I still believe he sees them more as business associates than family. But what we as NS fans probably care about more is what he thinks of Sakura.

I don't believe all these SS/NH saying that he will love Sakura all of a sudden because he will see how strong of a woman she has become. headscratch.gif There are a lot of holes in that. For one I don't think he's ever stated his romantic preferences. He dislikes fangirls, but what does he like? He obviously wasn't that impressed with Sakura in the Kage Summit Arc, and she hasn't changed too much since then. I think he will always value his bond with Naruto much more than his bond with Sakura. Not exactly a good thing between lovers...
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE (FrenchMyToast @ Apr 21 2013, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't believe all these SS/NH saying that he will love Sakura all of a sudden because he will see how strong of a woman she has become. headscratch.gif There are a lot of holes in that. For one I don't think he's ever stated his romantic preferences. He dislikes fangirls, but what does he like? He obviously wasn't that impressed with Sakura in the Kage Summit Arc, and she hasn't changed too much since then. I think he will always value his bond with Naruto much more than his bond with Sakura. Not exactly a good thing between lovers...


...Aren't these the same people who are constantly bashing Sakura? I cant even...

As for the second bolded, the fact that that was confirmed in that particular arc is important. The time couldn't have been that long ago, what, a couple weeks? I think that whatever Naruto and Sasuke feel about Sakura is not going to change in that short of time, if that makes any sense. Naruto can't possibly get over Sakura in that short of time, given his characterization and the fact that Naruto was confirmed to have feelings for Sakura 3 times in a row. And Sasuke changing his feelings would make even less sense.

Sakura, to me anyways, seems to have been changing ever since Sasuke left, as her feelings for him are hurting her, while her feelings for Naruto are growing.



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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (FrenchMyToast @ Apr 21 2013, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mhm now it's time for Sasuke to embrace his Team Taka/Team 7 "family." He was close in Part 1 with T7, but Orochimaru ruined that, and he was always hesitant with Taka. I still believe he sees them more as business associates than family. But what we as NS fans probably care about more is what he thinks of Sakura.

I don't believe all these SS/NH saying that he will love Sakura all of a sudden because he will see how strong of a woman she has become. headscratch.gif There are a lot of holes in that. For one I don't think he's ever stated his romantic preferences. He dislikes fangirls, but what does he like? He obviously wasn't that impressed with Sakura in the Kage Summit Arc, and she hasn't changed too much since then. I think he will always value his bond with Naruto much more than his bond with Sakura. Not exactly a good thing between lovers...

The thing is that Sasuke is not a lover nor his story suggested it. His story is always about the brotherhood and the life they live in. Sasuke don't encounter enemies who is a lover of past or present, rather his parallel is consisted with brotherhood and the meaning of life, case in point, family. Naruto is different because his story revolves all kind of themes, as well as his parallel suggested it.

When people wonder if SK can happen, well it can, but I do think it may happen off-screen and epilogue. For some reason, rival character doesn't get the romance on-screen or anything, as well as end up going with a side character. The point is that Sasuke is never a love character or a guy who seeks many things. Naruto is the guy who does because not just because he's the protagonist, but because he has big dreams and set of life goals/dreams. It's why his character revolves with every issues: new "replacement" team member (Sai), loss of a master, friends to back you up to the end, etc. So I think you got the picture.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is that Sasuke is not a lover nor his story suggested it. His story is always about the brotherhood and the life they live in. Sasuke don't encounter enemies who is a lover of past or present, rather his parallel is consisted with brotherhood and the meaning of life, case in point, family. Naruto is different because his story revolves all kind of themes, as well as his parallel suggested it.

When people wonder if SK can happen, well it can, but I do think it may happen off-screen and epilogue. For some reason, rival character doesn't get the romance on-screen or anything, as well as end up going with a side character. The point is that Sasuke is never a love character or a guy who seeks many things. Naruto is the guy who does because not just because he's the protagonist, but because he has big dreams and set of life goals/dreams. It's why his character revolves with every issues: new "replacement" team member (Sai), loss of a master, friends to back you up to the end, etc. So I think you got the picture.

P.S. did this forum crash?


yeah the forum had a ips problem...

Speaking about sai do you think sai is gonna push sakura's feelings for naruto? I have a feeling that after 615 shock she had. It might cause her to speak to sai about her romantic feelings for naruto. Heck even before she might speak about it she might be depressed about it at first.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (MistFlower @ Apr 21 2013, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...Aren't these the same people who are constantly bashing Sakura? I cant even...

As for the second bolded, the fact that that was confirmed in that particular arc is important. The time couldn't have been that long ago, what, a couple weeks? I think that whatever Naruto and Sasuke feel about Sakura is not going to change in that short of time, if that makes any sense. Naruto can't possibly get over Sakura in that short of time, given his characterization and the fact that Naruto was confirmed to have feelings for Sakura 3 times in a row. And Sasuke changing his feelings would make even less sense.

Sakura, to me anyways, seems to have been changing ever since Sasuke left, as her feelings for him are hurting her, while her feelings for Naruto are growing.

This is the funny part they want Sasuke to see how strong she become and how much she matured but keep bashing her saying she sucks, she is not strong and so on...
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:41 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is that Sasuke is not a lover nor his story suggested it. His story is always about the brotherhood and the life they live in. Sasuke don't encounter enemies who is a lover of past or present, rather his parallel is consisted with brotherhood and the meaning of life, case in point, family. Naruto is different because his story revolves all kind of themes, as well as his parallel suggested it.

When people wonder if SK can happen, well it can, but I do think it may happen off-screen and epilogue. For some reason, rival character doesn't get the romance on-screen or anything, as well as end up going with a side character. The point is that Sasuke is never a love character or a guy who seeks many things. Naruto is the guy who does because not just because he's the protagonist, but because he has big dreams and set of life goals/dreams. It's why his character revolves with every issues: new "replacement" team member (Sai), loss of a master, friends to back you up to the end, etc. So I think you got the picture.

P.S. did this forum crash?


Believe so. My laptop kept saying there was a problem with the ips driver.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 21 2013, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the funny part they want Sasuke to see how strong she become and how much she matured but keep bashing her saying she sucks, she is not strong and so on...

Sakura is only a likeable character when she's with Sasuke, leaving Naruto for Hinata. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:50 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is that Sasuke is not a lover nor his story suggested it. His story is always about the brotherhood and the life they live in. Sasuke don't encounter enemies who is a lover of past or present, rather his parallel is consisted with brotherhood and the meaning of life, case in point, family. Naruto is different because his story revolves all kind of themes, as well as his parallel suggested it.

When people wonder if SK can happen, well it can, but I do think it may happen off-screen and epilogue. For some reason, rival character doesn't get the romance on-screen or anything, as well as end up going with a side character. The point is that Sasuke is never a love character or a guy who seeks many things. Naruto is the guy who does because not just because he's the protagonist, but because he has big dreams and set of life goals/dreams. It's why his character revolves with every issues: new "replacement" team member (Sai), loss of a master, friends to back you up to the end, etc. So I think you got the picture.

P.S. did this forum crash?

Yeah I have a hard time imagining a loving Sasuke. It's just not in his character, but it is in Naruto's. Kishi knows that, which is why we have this NaruHina vs NaruSaku love triangle going on. SasuKarin and SasuSaku really aren't as "intense" as NS and NH; at least for me. I also find that you have to do a lot more assuming for your pro-arguments for any Sasuke related ships. I know part of it is that he's not the main character and he's not big on romance, but still, NS and even NH to some extent have a lot more evidence than either SK or SS. But of course NaruSaku triumphs all in the development department. 111191.gif

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Edited by FrenchMyToast, 21 April 2013 - 11:56 PM.

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