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#17741 Atheck

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:02 PM

With all the backlash in the Narutoverse, I think TV Tokyo gave them the notice besides decrease of popularity to make more room for other shows. And you notice how SP made Chie said those pro-NS comments in the interview seems like a joke. First they said that Narutos love for Sakura is only for rivalry with Sasuke and he couldn't tell the difference between ramen and love. You see how SP likes to discard the actual events wants to go back to the original. In positive at least 60% that the CPR True Ending will be the last episode SP animates. All they doing is try to salvage their reputation if they do that because they know NS was the core of the manga.

 

NS was the decisive resolution to a believable and developed relationship subplot, but that's the extent of its relevancy. For most people, the pairings were just a minor side-attraction to the overarching action based manga. While a number of people have put Naruto behind them after the final chapter/movie, a notable segment continues to follow the anime out of anticipation for key events like the 8th gate being finally unveiled after years of hyping it up as a power superior the Hokages' and Naruto and Sasuke's rematch. They still have 15 weeks before the spawn parody is released to the public to suffer through.

 

A single anime episode can cover 3-4 chapters worth of content depending on the amount of incorporated filler. Another 5 weeks worth of needless filler won't dampen their prospects of completing Naruto before August 7th if the following episodes are entirely dedicated to animating the canon manga. They won't discontinue Naruto since it's in the final stages of the plotline. Thirteen years dedicated to the series. Do you believe they would sacrifice laying down the finishing touches of their crowning series after having a hand in the manga's canonicity? 



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:02 PM

Now my best friend wants to start naruto :( She's not into anime and mangas...but from whatever she had heard about Naruto from me in the past....she wants to start it :(

 

Just tell her the truth, If she wants to start a manga that will get her excited for the Genre, Naruto is a great piece of work, if she wants to leave feeling like she wasted dozens of hours on a genre that will leave her feeling she would have been better off watching paint dry, then tell her to read Naruto.

 

Naruto was the best manga out there to get someone into reading the genre, but that end ruin all that. It revealed to those with any sense that the series was designed to make you feel it was a work of passion from it's creater, but was nothing more than a corporate entity designed to milk you of all your money. It's literally the best and worst example for the genre as a whole for a newbie.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:33 PM

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important description is very important: This video has nothing to do with shipping, regardless of Hinata's character being mostly all of that matter... if you actually liked the ending of the series and felt the characters had justified progress, this video may not be for you.

This video is merely about how Hinata had almost zero character growth and was reduced to somebody who thinks about her crush's hand when her cousin is dead in front of her, had no plans for the heir of the hyuga and mostly thought about 'Naruto' when there was surely room for other thoughts in her mind, tripped over rocks and passed out, among other things that made the journey of her character a rather distasteful one.

The ENDING of Naruto made it even worse, as we were left more confused than we were when 'The Last' came out and was expected to fill all the plot-holes the manga didn't do, and instead, made it inevitably worse with its haphazard excuse for developmental progress; the movie has a whopping 2.7 rating in Japan and is dropping by the day with many negative reviews staff are promptly deleting.

Now, I never liked Hinata, and it was for the sole reason that she had no progress; had it been different, I may have taken a different route.

As the disclaimer says, this video is targeted towards people who were unhappy with the ending and lack of development of Hinata - this video is for them.

OOOOH but it's not over yet. Expect more anti videos in the future that further discuss - and more seriously - on the various controversial subjects of Naruto and its retcon ending!

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:34 PM

I'm going to spread that soon.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:04 PM

 

It's weird that they're focusing on this now. The only thing I can think is that it serves two purposes:

 

1. to try to lure back some of the old fans and keep them interested long enough to hook them into the new series;

 

2. to set up a scenario for the new series where Bolt sets his sights on removing Kakashi's mask, just like his dear ol' dad once did with Team 7. This could be aimed at newer fans who aren't as familiar with the old manga. Kishi/SJ/SP are intentionally showing audiences the scenes they need to know, just like the NH-centric pamphlet given out during The Last. My guess is this rehash of the old manga chapter will contain some retconning of Team 7 to better suit the Naruto-Sasuke-Kakashi dynamic to come in the Bolt series.  

 

I'm to the point where I don't even look at this as the same series anymore. Same characters, but the ending and the new series might as well have been written by someone else entirely. It's just not the same.

 

So it's frustrating to see them deal with revealing Kakashi's face, a subject that, although silly, I wouldn't mind seeing reillustrated because I personally loved those little Team 7 little and wished they'd done more of them back then. But, like everything else I had hoped to see in the ending — more Team 7 bonding, Naruto's Hokage-ship, the future career of Sakura and the lives of the rest of rookies, etc. — revisiting Kakashi's mask is bound to be disappointing. This is not the manga I once liked, so revisiting those scenes is sure to be tainted by everything else that has changed about it.

 

I'm expecting another ret-con. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the managed to show Sakura as abusive and Hinata peeking around a corner, blushing and doe-eyed. Ugh.

 

I'm sure there will be a handful of other little teaser chapters like this to try and keep old fans hooked. It wouldn't surprise me if they had one that showed Naruto being named Hokage in front of all his friends and the village. You know, like they should have included in the original manga as what would have been the most powerful and climatic scene. A series of shots of him being named Hokage ending with him standing on a balcony looking out over the village with his arm around Sakura. Boom. done. Better than Kishi.



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:38 PM

So who else agrees with me that these two pages can signify the ending of the manga on a great note for us: 

 

 

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I swear if someone ends up getting me Volume 48 I'll rip chapters the rest of chapter 450 after this page, and 451-453. That's a vow I'm willing to make, and Tbh I'll takes those papers and toss them in the shredder.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:43 PM

NS become canon will not save the manga and the ending.
It only end romance department in a good note.

 

Yup The author is a big phony the naruto manga was doomed to start to finish.

It only got popular because of his good first editor. 



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:48 PM

NS become canon will not save the manga and the ending.
It only end romance department in a good note.

This.

Though it would save Sakura and Naruto as well. If anything, it will just be a 6 out of 10 manga. Maybe...

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:56 PM

 

That's old news. Why in the hell would anyone be concerned about Kakashi's face? It's an inconsequential minute detail that serves no greater purpose whatsoever. The last thing on my mind is what Kakashi's face looks like. 

Milk so hard that they'll even milk something nobody was even interested in anymore :zaru:

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:06 PM

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

doesn't look lower to me, looks higher..... remember the last was getting all those 1 star reviewsand sp kept trying to get rid of them, whereas this has all 3 to 5 star reviews


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:12 PM

doesn't look lower to me, looks higher..... remember the last was getting all those 1 star reviewsand sp kept trying to get rid of them, whereas this has all 3 to 5 star reviews

Actually, it was lowered. It just it went up as of now. More and more reviewers are coming by. But yes, it's now official. The Last is worse than DBZ.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:25 PM

 

 

You are twisting what he said...... 

 

Kishimoto never said he was going with NS. He said he only considered it at some point but he felt that Sakura moving own from Sasuke would make her a terrible person. My guess is because Sakura already confessed she was in love with Sasuke and for some reason, once a girl loves somebody, she can never love another in Kishimoto's sh*tty world. 

 

You can even see the proof characters like Tsunade and Kurenai never moved on even though the men they loved (Dan and Asuma) died a long time ago. Sakura's love for Sasuke was always the problem and it ended up being the major reason why NS never became canon.

 

This isn't rocket science. NS was doomed because of Kishimoto's belief that women cannot move on from their first love.

 

 

 

 

 

 

yet the guy has to nerve to act like a fan of dbz while he ignores the fact bulma moved on from yamcha to vegeta, yet sakura can't move from sasuke to naruto?  :down:


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:39 PM

You are twisting what he said...... 
 
Kishimoto never said he was going with NS. He said he only considered it at some point but he felt that Sakura moving own from Sasuke would make her a terrible person. My guess is because Sakura already confessed she was in love with Sasuke and for some reason, once a girl loves somebody, she can never love another in Kishimoto's sh*tty world. 
 
You can even see the proof characters like Tsunade and Kurenai never moved on even though the men they loved (Dan and Asuma) died a long time ago. Sakura's love for Sasuke was always the problem and it ended up being the major reason why NS never became canon.
 
This isn't rocket science. NS was doomed because of Kishimoto's belief that women cannot move on from their first love.
 
 


 
When is this coming out?

Not twisting his words words. That's what the translation I read said. Personally, I don't give a rats behind what Kishi say and comes out of his mouth. It's nothing but BS that comes out of his mouth. He just admitted that he'd does not know how Sasuke and Sakura had ended up and admitted that NH was never intended or his intentions. The sooner people understand SS happened only to make NH canon, the better the world will be a better place, so don't buy what he said that Sakura would be a terrible woman if she moves on from Sasuke. It nothing but a lame excuse to justify NH.

Ok now that it happen to pretty much all women in this manga so I understand where you are coming from.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:39 PM

If kittenmoto wanted to reveal Kakashi's face he should have done it in the main storyline. Hell any major fight where Kakashi took major damage to his clothing would have been fine.

 

This is nothing more then a sad gimmick.

 

Kishimoto: Because my wife makes me sleep on the couch I decided to write this! *laughs*.

 

Interviewer: Your wife... what?

 

Kishimoto: I love her. We are deeply in love you know, and I don't hold the fact that I wasn't her first against her in anyway. She wanted to know how Kakashi looked all this time but... I kept forgetting about it.. it was a red herring! *laughs*

 

Interviewer: Kakashi's face is a red herring.... in... in what regard...

 

Kishimoto: Kakashi doesn't just take it off, he makes you earn it. That's the way a real person acts, they just don't give it up like my wife did with her first boyfriend.

 

Interviewer: Give it up? Give what up...

 

Kishimoto: This story is the ultimate tale of love and adventure, and today it's time for adventure so I decided to make it about Kakashi's face! That way my wife may one day make me a sandwich when I ask her too, instead of all this "I'm not your slave" nonsense. Hinata would be thankful I asked her to make a sandwich for me.

 

Interviewer: Umm... so about Kakashi...

 

Kishimoto: It's awesome. I thought a lot about it. *laughs* He's a cross between a few of my wife's ex lovers... so she'll know that I know and I don't have any hang ups about not being her first. *laughs*

 

Interviewer: So Kakashi resembles... your wife's ex?

 

Kishimoto: Of course not! I mean I'm not insecure like that! I'm the great manga artist of all time! *laughs* No, he's a mix of multiple ex's that my wife had. I really should get a reward for not being judgmental about it, and instead sharing it positively with the rest of the world. Most guys aren't as cool about such things like I am.

 

Interviewer: I think you need some help with your mental health.....

 

Kishimoto: *laughs* Sasuke doesn't need help! He's pure. I'm pure. People just don't understand he thinks beyond good and evil. *laughs* You know he's based on my wife's first lover? And it wasn't me! *laughs*

 

Interviewer:.. And on that bombshell... ummm until next time Kishimoto.....

 

Kishimoto: It hurt me when people say I don't measure up! I'm a perfectly average length damn it!

 

Interviewer: That... isn't what they are talking about....

 

Kishimoto: *laughs* Yes this story is for the love of my life, I dedicate it to her... Hinata the perfect woman....

 

Interviewer: I'm just.. gonna leave now...


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 11:51 PM

So who else agrees with me that these two pages can signify the ending of the manga on a great note for us: 

 

 

naruto-9004.jpg

 

 

 

 

naruto-9005.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

I swear if someone ends up getting me Volume 48 I'll rip chapters the rest of chapter 450 after this page, and 451-453. That's a vow I'm willing to make, and Tbh I'll takes those papers and toss them in the shredder.

ran out of likes xD that's a first lol anyways I agree with you 100%, its a better ending right there and you just fill in the blanks yourself and /or add road to ninja  :yes:


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Posted 19 April 2015 - 12:25 AM

The reveal of Kakashi's face will probably be just as big of a letdown as his teaching career was.

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 12:27 AM

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You know it's true. Kakashi was a terrible teacher. A great character, but a god awful teacher.

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 12:39 AM

You know it's true. Kakashi was a terrible teacher. A great character, but a god awful teacher.

Lol how? He trained three of the strongest shinobi of all time. One of them who eventually went on to become hokage. 


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Posted 19 April 2015 - 12:42 AM

Lol how? He trained three of the strongest shinobi of all time. One of them who eventually went on to become hokage.

The only person he actually trained was Sasuke. He didn't do jack kitten for Naruto or Sakura. And before people bring up the RS training, he only told Naruto how the shadow clones work and what Naruto's chakra nature was. Asuma taught Naruto more than Kakashi did during that.

Kakashi played favorites and completely ignored Naruto and Sakura.

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 12:43 AM

The only person he actually trained was Sasuke. He didn't do jack kitten for Naruto or Sakura. And before people bring up the RS training, he only told Naruto how the shadow clones work and what Naruto's chakra nature was. Asuma taught Naruto more than Kakashi did during that.

Kakashi played favorites and completely ignored Naruto and Sakura.

You win.





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