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#17741 StrawHatNaruto

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 21 2013, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And sadly its the anime version of Hinata that fans try to say exists in the manga. They don't understand Hinata's limited development, that's what irks many others. Neji fans are still annoyed by this too.

Lol true... they refuse to accept the true Hinata not the make believe one in the anime. dry.gif

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:12 PM

Since my debating skill is at a grade 2 level, all I can tell really tell NH fans to do is just reread the manga. No matter how strong their shipping goggles are, they'll see that hinata is barely in the story.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (Ex-psych75 @ Apr 21 2013, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since my debating skill is at a grade 2 level, all I can tell really tell NH fans to do is just reread the manga. No matter how strong their shipping goggles are, they'll see that hinata is barely in the story.

Yeah. It's not just that, it's just the development there is very small and it's always about improvement, while NS is more about in combat. It's about them in general and what they want, feel, etc. That's realistic.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (StrawHatNaruto @ Apr 21 2013, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol true... they refuse to accept the true Hinata not the make believe one in the anime. dry.gif


If NaruSaku is canon, its going to take a lot of effort to try and explain this stuff to people who won't understand this stuff now, I mean there are good rational NH fans who acknowledge that NS is possible and has a lot of development but they still feel that NaruHina is the endgame.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:43 PM

Naruto has some guts

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 21 2013, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto has some guts

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You know, I always wanted to use images with dialogues. This one you did great. happy.gif

#17747 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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You know, I always wanted to use images with dialogues. This one you did great. happy.gif


Actually I found it on facebook biggrin.gif

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 21 2013, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto has some guts


I loved the animation of Sakura on the second panel. That part in particular where they're talking about the resemblance between Sai and Sasuke.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 21 2013, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If NaruSaku is canon, its going to take a lot of effort to try and explain this stuff to people who won't understand this stuff now...


Why?? Kishimoto has no obligation to explain stuff to people who refuse to see what is painfully obvious, just let him finish it on his own terms and who cares what the doubters think.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 21 2013, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I found it on facebook biggrin.gif

Oh. Lol. Kudos to the one who did it then. Still, you get kudos for sharing with us. happy.gif

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 21 2013, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I loved the animation of Sakura on the second panel. That part in particular where they're talking about the resemblance between Sai and Sasuke.

Same here. When anime get Sakura's looks right, she comes off as a beauty as Naruto is like a beast (well he has Kuruma laugh.gif).

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh. Lol. Kudos to the one who did it then. Still, you get kudos for sharing with us. happy.gif


Same here. When anime get Sakura's looks right, she comes off as a beauty as Naruto is like a beast (well he has Kuruma laugh.gif).


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:40 PM

I wonder how many people ship NH because of fillers. They probably don't even know that some NH scenes didn't actually happen. I understand NS had that one episode where Naruto describes his love for Sakura (235?), but they actually changed an entire canon event. They gave it so much more focus than it actually deserves. arg.gif

But the thing that really pissed me off was that they basically gave Hinata some of Sakura's back story. I've seen a lot of people bash Sakura for having a "weak" back story and for getting bullied (it really happens facepalm.png ), but the moment Hinata gets bullied, it's suddenly tragic and more important. It doesn't help that it makes absolutely no sense. It's highly unlikely that the Heiress for the second most important clan in the village would get bullied. She's one of the more important people in the entire village, yet a few civilian kids can pick on her? It doesn't really add up, does it? huh.gif
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 21 2013, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes she does wub.gif

I would love an alternative world with Naruto and Sakura in some fairy tale world. Again, that's just me.

QUOTE (FrenchMyToast @ Apr 21 2013, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder how many people ship NH because of fillers. They probably don't even know that some NH scenes didn't actually happen. I understand NS had that one episode where Naruto describes his love for Sakura (235?), but they actually changed an entire canon event. They gave it so much more focus than it actually deserves. arg.gif

But the thing that really pissed me off was that they basically gave Hinata some of Sakura's back story. I've seen a lot of people bash Sakura for having a "weak" back story and for getting bullied (it really happens facepalm.png ), but the moment Hinata gets bullied, it's suddenly tragic and more important. It doesn't help that it makes absolutely no sense. It's highly unlikely that the Heiress for the second most important clan in the village would get bullied. She's one of the more important people in the entire village, yet a few civilian kids can pick on her? It doesn't really add up, does it? huh.gif

I don't know, I just think the character themselves is what made them a fan to begin with. That said yeah it is dumb when they add more flashback that has no indication that ever happen or even possible. Hinata only got disapproval by her father since she's going to be the heir but she failed to impress him. So why the bullying needed to happen? They bullied her for what? It made no sense. I don't mind adding more to flashback, but don't go out of line. Example: Sakura sees Naruto alone as her parents drags her away. That made sense because it was setup like that in manga. More stalking scene of Hinata watching Naruto train is acceptable since well she did it already. Bullying when there's no indications made no sense. Also, what did that accomplish anyway.

I don't know about fans being contradicting between hers and Sakura but I won't be surprised. If we compare, I would say Sakura would have been horrible because she is not from well known clan and what's worse is that she has a part that people can bully her all day to the point she will be scared for life. Luckily Ino was there. Anyway, who knows, but like Inferno180 pointed out, after that episode, if it was trying to push NH, there was an episode that literally killed the purpose of 166. So yeah, whatever.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:27 PM

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

If you haven't seen the movie, don't read. tongue.gif


Went ahead and watched the movie with korean dub, and subs. It was pretttyyyyy damn good! Favorite animation parts had to be when Sakura goes to Narutos house and it's Kushina's birthday? Near the end when they were finally going back to their world. That was pretty touching. And I enjoyed seeing Akatsuki fight also. That was a nice twist.


Definitely gonna rewatch it with Japanese dub, and it seemed as though there was some sort of lag.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 21 2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you haven't seen the movie, don't read. tongue.gif


Went ahead and watched the movie with korean dub, and subs. It was pretttyyyyy damn good! Favorite animation parts had to be when Sakura goes to Narutos house and it's Kushina's birthday? Near the end when they were finally going back to their world. That was pretty touching. And I enjoyed seeing Akatsuki fight also. That was a nice twist.


Definitely gonna rewatch it with Japanese dub, and it seemed as though there was some sort of lag.

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The part I like a lot as well is the whole situation with Sakura thinking about Naruto. When she saw him loving the world he's in, she doesn't know what to do because she either could save him but break his heart or let him stay happy but let his dream of Hokage disappear. She rather not break him as well as suffer alone than going back home, possibly breaking him. I also like how Sakura knows what he thinks, reminding me of Chuunin exam. Oh man, Kishi, tell me this isn't made to please us, this is made because it pleases you.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Movie related spoilers

The part I like a lot as well is the whole situation with Sakura thinking about Naruto. When she saw him loving the world he's in, she doesn't know what to do because she either could save him but break his heart or let him stay happy but let his dream of Hokage disappear. She rather not break him as well as suffer alone than going back home, possibly breaking him. I also like how Sakura knows what he thinks, reminding me of Chuunin exam. Oh man, Kishi, tell me this isn't made to please us, this is made because it pleases you.


I just saw the film RTN, if I remember well this film is 100% of kishi so if I remember well he said that there are some things he want to put in the manga, so in this film sakura sees sasuke again and yes she is attracted by him but she is more concerned by naruto's feeling , I hope that kishi will make approximatively the same thing in the manga^^.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:29 PM

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I just saw the film RTN, if I remember well this film is 100% of kishi so if I remember well he sad that there are some things he want to put in the manga, so in this film sakura see sasuke again and yes she is attracted by him but she is more concerned by naruto's feeling , I hope that kishi will make approximatively the same thing in the manga^^.

Well, family relationship wise, yes, though I don't know if he meant everything. Still, it is still true to his work because it really feels like it's them in the recent development. Not power-wise, but their status. I want her to know the main priority for her. While she did put Naruto first, I don't know if she knows.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 21 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Movie related spoilers

The part I like a lot as well is the whole situation with Sakura thinking about Naruto. When she saw him loving the world he's in, she doesn't know what to do because she either could save him but break his heart or let him stay happy but let his dream of Hokage disappear. She rather not break him as well as suffer alone than going back home, possibly breaking him. I also like how Sakura knows what he thinks, reminding me of Chuunin exam. Oh man, Kishi, tell me this isn't made to please us, this is made because it pleases you.


Yeah, that whole scene and the music was quite touching. I didnt expect there to be so little of sasuke and hinata on the film tbh. I also like sakura fighting Menma. Twas quite awesome.




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