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[rocci]

Hey, he couldn't stop one from running off to be an avenger and completely desert the village. So he might as well help the three that were gonna run off and make sure they actually came back. I don't know that's the best I could up with to make sense of Kishi's writings.

I tried to make sense this manga, and I become bald.
Dan you kishi.

[ultranx]

Oh. Ok.

http://www.animenews...ril-5-11/.87222

A bit surprised to see Fairy Tail went up rather than down. That usually happen. What? Did the latest chapter wake them up?

Seriously...Who doesn't have volume 1 of AoT already?...

Eyes off me...

even the sword art online manga is selling better than naruto and its not even the original source material? 

[Aizen-Sama]

I wonder whta's it going to be like after Naruto dies? Considering he's pretty much the one who made Peace.

 

I hope Salad kills Boruto and the cycle of hatred continues.  And since Sakura is now an Uchiha she must kill Hokage's wife Hinata-hime.

[BlackBird19]

@WhyDoIWatch: Attacking a kage is viewed as an attack on that nation. He also attacked Bee, a kumo shinobi in lightening country. And numbers don't matter. He killed people that had no reason to die by his hand in iron country. You're argument that since his original plan had been stopped by Naruto and then kept secret means that it's ok. Well that's exactly what Kishi did in canon. Did you really agree with Kishi's ending for him? I mean I'm guessing you were just being sarcastic, or I hope so.

Edited by BlackBird19, 18 April 2015 - 06:57 AM.

[milan kyuubi]

Fun time travel ask if you were to travel back in time to when you first got into naruto what would you tell your past self?

 

And if you got the chance to meet kishi back when he first created naruto what would you advice him?

 

1. Drop naruto right away. Then I would simple spoil every arc on net!

2. I would punch him in the face. Then magicly disapear in to the future! xd

Edited by milan kyuubi, 18 April 2015 - 06:39 AM.

[Atheck]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

Edited by Atheck, 18 April 2015 - 08:36 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Lol. nHers are attacking Hanami-change cause she's not canon and they claimed that their prized Mopwari is more useful Kunoichi in the making.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 18 April 2015 - 08:47 AM.

[Tiller]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

 

I'm sad if that's true honestly.

[MoonDrop04]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/
 
What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

Probably because of the trailers and TV spots they have been showing off lately. They have been showing off a lot of unnecessary important spoilers in the trailers that show off moments within the movie that would have surprised the people watching the movie (such as Golden freeza and Blue Super Saiyan Goku)

With moments already shown to the public before the movie is actually in theaters, it will tend to keep customers less excited about the movie now because of such important moments now already known. Now anybody who wants to see the movie will just want to see it just to see what happens or for nostalgic purposes 😒

And honestly bringing back freeza as the main villain for a movie was an "meh" idea to begin with 😕. I mean damn his brother Cooler's comeback movie (Return of Cooler) was a more better then this......AND THATS SAYING SOMETHING!!!! Lol

Edited by MoonDrop04, 18 April 2015 - 09:26 AM.

[Atheck]

I read somewhere that part of the stigma was associated with the lack of background context or some semblance of a story. Moreover, it seems that the Japanese fanbase might have preferred the more light-hearted oriented elements of Dragonball seen in BoG, at least according to some speculation that I read. 

 

It's just constant gratuitous fighting with little sense that's intended to pander to the Western fans who prefer the hard core action elements of Dragon Ball. The illogical stretching of what's canon with the plotholes doesn't help either. DB was never known for its consistency, but the movies have been pushing the envelope in a manner not seen since the Buu arc. You've got Frieza training himself up to god tier in four months time, Shenron reviving someone who has been dead for 14 years, some red upper class soldier overpowering the Super Namekian who is stronger than the cyborgs, Yamcha and Chiaotzu being shafted due to their limited strength yet Roshi is there fighting the generic minions who should all have PLs in the low thousands at least. Even I have to admit it's ridiculous. 

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I'm told that SP has yet to complete the chapter 631 episode that is named the Real Ending and True Ending. They are still dishing out fillers left and right. Is it me or is SP up to something this late. May is around the corner and the movie comes out in August. With this bunch of fillers, it seems like they are just stalling... perhaps more than for the Bolt film. I do not like what the interview with the VA's (joking or not about NS) and if this is sometime of attempt to get back the fans the spat on last year, they are barking up the wrong tree.

 

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

 

Well... the Burrito movie must fail even more.

 

What the heck is wrong with SJ films these days!

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 18 April 2015 - 09:59 AM.

[HuskyLover]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

 

I haven't really talked about the new DBZ movie but I looked at some of the trailers and..........wtf happened to Gohan    !!!

 

I read somewhere that part of the stigma was associated with the lack of background context or some semblance of a story. Moreover, it seems that the Japanese fanbase might have preferred the more light-hearted oriented elements of Dragonball seen in BoG, at least according to some speculation that I read. 

 

It's just constant gratuitous fighting with little sense that's intended to pander to the Western fans who prefer the hard core action elements of Dragon Ball. The illogical stretching of what's canon with the plotholes doesn't help either. DB was never known for its consistency, but the movies have been pushing the envelope in a manner not seen since the Buu arc. You've got Frieza training himself up to god tier in four months time, Shenron reviving someone who has been dead for 14 years, some red upper class soldier overpowering the Super Namekian who is stronger than the cyborgs, Yamcha and Chiaotzu being shafted due to their limited strength yet Roshi is there fighting the generic minions who should all have PLs in the low thousands at least. Even I have to admit it's ridiculous. 

 

Seems that Toei messed up with this Film.

Perhaps, there's a limit to how much DBZ can be milked 

[Nostradamus]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

That's bizarre but if they screwed up then it's understandable.

I pretty much know close to nothing about the latest DBZ movie, however I do have to say bringing Frieza back is a stupid move.

Frieza doesn't pose a threat anymore. Pretty much anyone can defeat that guy, and now people are supposed to believe that Frieza can fight with Goku when Goku achieved God powers? Yeah right.

Even if Frieza achieved God mode as well that's still stupid and illogical.

Edited by Nostradamus, 18 April 2015 - 10:12 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

While it is early, it must be the hardcore base and unlike The Last with an easy win (love = girls scream), DBZ got to rely on its own core. I wish I knew what they're saying, but hey, my new defense on money making does not mean good movie.

 

Sorry, DBZ. I must use you...for the wrong reason apparently.

 

I wonder how Conan is doing...

 

Edit: Doing pretty damn good. It's like going to Transformers 2 or going to anything else (?). Lol.

 

Edit: Apparently, really good. Saying the best Conan movie yet.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 18 April 2015 - 11:39 AM.

[ichigo500]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

For a  DBZ movie, the score is really low ! I never expected that one day- the last would kind of surpass a DBZ movie ! 

Anyway, people surely were expecting something really big and badass to happen in this movie, and in the end...

 

edit: blue super saiyan ? imo, it's a pretty lame idea... It's like turning Naruto's blue rasengan into a yellow one, or turning Hinata into one of Hamura descendants....wait...

Edited by ichigo500, 18 April 2015 - 11:57 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

For a  DBZ movie, the score is really low ! I never expected that one day- the last would kind of surpass a DBZ movie ! 
Anyway, people surely were expecting something really big and badass to happen in this movie, and in the end...
 
edit: blue super saiyan ? imo, it's a pretty lame idea... It's like turning Naruto's blue rasengan into a yellow one, or turning Hinata into one of Hamura descendants....wait...

Going by the plot summary, there's some wtf moments. I know I said that the only key point is being a Summer movie alas mindless action; however, if it doesn't have that, then uh oh.

[harry4e]

I'll give Kishi credit where its due, he could have easily made a flashback of Danzo being a poor little orphan and him being saved by the Leaf and that is why he is so dutiful to the Leaf. He didn't make Danzo this very tragic character but instead just chose to show his relationship with Hiruzen.

`

Naruto is pretty messed up in the sense that he doesn't try to change other people that aren't like him, he didn't bother TNJ with Kakazu, Kaguya, Black Zetsu, or Madara.

 

I think the defeat of Danzou might have been the first arc the new editor for Kishi fully worked on. If you consider the build-up till that point, how it was hinted he was involved in so many of the other antagonists reasons to hate Konoha, his end felt sort of anti-climatic. There was so much stuff he was involved in from working with Orichimaru, to keeping Hanzou in power to surpress Ami, to ordering the end of the Uchiha clan, to ordering Sai to spy on Naruto etc, this guy was built up as someone more and his end was kinda bleh, all his other actions never came up, or anything...That felt like the biggest hint that Naruto is going in a completely different direction. The fact they made it out that he did it for the betterment of Konoha never set well with me, because if he was doing all this for Konoha why did he and his Anbu all leave when Negato attacked, instead of defending the village?

 

Naruto was messed up in that sense, the only people he really ever changed were those who were turned evil due to circumstances and were good people in the first place, but were lost, he never tried to work on those that needed more work. Though if you look at his TnJ's after the pain arc and before, there was a big difference, his talks with Gaara, Pain, and Zabuza were more emotionally fuelled, and believable. His talks with Kurama and Obito never made as much sense, I still don't understand how Kurama changed his mind after one day with only one sentance from Naruto, I had thought we'd get more moments before they worked as a team but it just sort of happened, and Obito's change of heart never made sense to me.

 

 

I see.

 

Question time for everyone. If someone would've shown you 699, 700 and the movie 4 years ago or 5 years ago or after 631 or hell immediately after you started "Naruto", what would've been your reaction, what you've said?

Also which is correct "showed" or "shown"?

 

That's a good point, I think I would have dropped it, there have been plenty of stories, TV shows etc I have dropped because I disagreed with the direction it was taking or how it ended, (I'm not someone who will drop a series because the end got spoilt.) I would still keep up with the storyline, by reading bried summaries etc, but I'd drop the manga from my 'must follow' list.

 

Also I think it's showed. If someone would've showed you, or if you were shown.

 

Edit: Or am I wrong and it is shown?

Edited by harry4e, 18 April 2015 - 12:24 PM.

[redrose3443]

I'm told that SP has yet to complete the chapter 631 episode that is named the Real Ending and True Ending. They are still dishing out fillers left and right. Is it me or is SP up to something this late. May is around the corner and the movie comes out in August. With this bunch of fillers, it seems like they are just stalling... perhaps more than for the Bolt film. I do not like what the interview with the VA's (joking or not about NS) and if this is sometime of attempt to get back the fans the spat on last year, they are barking up the wrong tree.

 

 

Well... the Burrito movie must fail even more.

 

What the heck is wrong with SJ films these days!

With the way the filler is going, we won't get to the CPR episode, until late July or August, when Burrito comes out.( probably the latter, so that they can blow what little budget they have on the movie, while the episodes are treated like kitten, as usual.)

 

This filler is still in part 2 of the chunin exams, and we'd still need part 3, along with an episode or two dedicated to Naruto. So, unless they cut the filler short, we won't see any canon episodes, till the end of summer.

[luffyq1]

This is funny. Apparently, Resurrection of Frieza is being chastised with review scores even lower than "The Last" on Yahoo JP. Just look at these numbers...  http://movies.yahoo....「F」/349761/

 

What are your reactions? A Dragonball film of all things earning a lower score than the Hinata-centric ilk released by Pierrot. 

hahahhahaahhahahahah.

[AHK]

Attacking 4 Kages when 3 of them are asses is barely a crime that is irredeemable, Heh they were not "dozens" at max it was probably 10, what foreign nation did he attack?, and those were threats that were stopped by Naruto and will be kept secret (LOL).
 
That ridiculous, Obito killed Neji Sasuke is not responsible as much as Obito for his death, Sasuke fought Bee but he failed, Obito found the Tail after he realized this.
If Sasuke crimes were as much as Obito/Gaara I would agree that redemption is not OK and he should be locked up (Even though no one but Naruto could do that)

Regardless of their personality types, attacking the leaders of the nations is an inexcusable act of terrorism. It's funny, Sasuke is an even bigger ass, but you have no problem defending him. He killed multiple people, there's no excusing that. He walked right into Kumo and killed their ninja, and attacked bee. Not only that, but attacking the leaders of the nations is the same as attacking the nations themselves. A crime that is kept secret is still a crime, no matter wha you say...

It's not ridiculous. Sasuke fought bee and got his ass whooped, but still managed to get a piece of Gyuuki. Keep in mind, that was thee only piece of Gyuki which Obito possesed, and it was instrumental in revivng the Juubi. Sasuke helped murder Neji, as well as the thousands of people killed by the Juubi. Sasuke's crimes are just as bad as Obito and worse than Gaara's.