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#17581 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:09 PM

How The Grinchmoto stole Christmas ( from everyone but NH)
By Dr. Tsuki

Part2:

Then the Fans, Young and old would sit down at their desks.
 And they’d DEBATE! And they’d DEBATE! And they’d DEBATE!

DEBATE! DEBATE! DEBATE!

They would debate about Narusaku, about Sasusaku, and even about Naruhina.
This was something the Grinchmoto could not stand in the least!

And THEN they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every Fan down in Fanville, the Tall and the Small
would post close together with their keyboards a-clacking.
They’d make post after post. And the Fan’s would start skyping!
They’d Skype! And they’d Skype! And they’d SKYPE!
SKYPE! SKYPE! SKYPE!
And the more the Grinchmoto thought of this fan Naruto-skype
The more Grinchmoto thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why for 15 some years I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fans from coming! But HOW?”

Then he got an Idea! A an Awful idea!
The Grinchmoto got a WONDERFUL, AWFUL IDEA!

“I know just what to do!” The Grinchmoto laughed in his throat.
and he made a terrible, quick ending where Sai and Yamato disappeared.
And he chuckled, and chuckled, “What a great terrible trick!”
“With Sakura with Sasuke and Naruto with Hinata this ending will tank!”


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                                         Pls shame me for procrastinating.  :argh: 


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:13 PM

How The Grinchmoto stole Christmas ( from everyone but NH)
By Dr. Tsuki

Part2:

Then the Fans, Young and old would sit down at their desks.
 And they’d DEBATE! And they’d DEBATE! And they’d DEBATE!

DEBATE! DEBATE! DEBATE!

They would debate about Narusaku, about Sasusaku, and even about Naruhina.
This was something the Grinchmoto could not stand in the least!

And THEN they’d do something he liked least of all!
Every Fan down in Fanville, the Tall and the Small
would post close together with their keyboards a-clacking.
They’d make post after post. And the Fan’s would start skyping!
They’d Skype! And they’d Skype! And they’d SKYPE!
SKYPE! SKYPE! SKYPE!
And the more the Grinchmoto thought of this fan Naruto-skype
The more Grinchmoto thought, “I must stop this whole thing!”
“Why for 15 some years I’ve put up with it now!”
“I must stop these fans from coming! But HOW?”

Then he got an Idea! A an Awful idea!
The Grinchmoto got a WONDERFUL, AWFUL IDEA!

“I know just what to do!” The Grinchmoto laughed in his throat.
and he made a terrible, quick ending where Sai and Yamato disappeared.
And he chuckled, and chuckled, “What a great terrible trick!”
“With Sakura with Sasuke and Naruto with Hinata this ending will tank!”

I love you Tsuki  :argh:



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:15 PM

How The Grinchmoto stole Christmas ( from everyone but NH)
By Dr. Tsuki

Part2:

Then the Fans, Young and old would sit down at their desks.
 And theyd DEBATE! And theyd DEBATE! And theyd DEBATE!

DEBATE! DEBATE! DEBATE!

They would debate about Narusaku, about Sasusaku, and even about Naruhina.
This was something the Grinchmoto could not stand in the least!

And THEN theyd do something he liked least of all!
Every Fan down in Fanville, the Tall and the Small
would post close together with their keyboards a-clacking.
Theyd make post after post. And the Fans would start skyping!
Theyd Skype! And theyd Skype! And theyd SKYPE!
SKYPE! SKYPE! SKYPE!
And the more the Grinchmoto thought of this fan Naruto-skype
The more Grinchmoto thought, I must stop this whole thing!
Why for 15 some years Ive put up with it now!
I must stop these fans from coming! But HOW?

Then he got an Idea! A an Awful idea!
The Grinchmoto got a WONDERFUL, AWFUL IDEA!

I know just what to do! The Grinchmoto laughed in his throat.
and he made a terrible, quick ending where Sai and Yamato disappeared.
And he chuckled, and chuckled, What a great terrible trick!
With Sakura with Sasuke and Naruto with Hinata this ending will tank!

I'm gonna make sure to read this to my kids in the future!!!

G . I . N . T . A . M .A

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:27 PM

may get your wish. Barring confirmation sales are declining on pre order tickets as people cancel.

 

 

 

Well, reservation sales are down the tubes and there's a few good cancellations so so far it looks alright.

 

Is there a source for this or are you two just trying bringing up the morale?
 



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:29 PM

Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that we never saw anything EVER about Konaha being cold (I always assumed it was just somewhere warm and humid) but now it's all snowy? And even then, Ino goes for the midriff shirt... Almost as dumb as Hinata wearing that stupid coat all the time.

 

No you aren't the only one, I've bought it up a few times already, the filler of the movie starts with the weather, and just continues right to the end of the closing credits.

 

 

If this movie bombs then it proves that they are not falling for Kishi's bullsh**.

 

Funny thing is, I bet the movie would have done much better if Kishi and his team of merry men didn't open their mouth, the NaruHina and SasuSaku fans were going to watch this movie regardless, but the crap that's come out since the first trailer has killed the buzz for everyone, even many of the hardcore probably read the spoilers and realise the movie doesn't even paint them in a positive light, the love story between Naruto and Hinata without taking into consideration any of the all 698. It's basically an admittance that they were misrading the manga as well, their pairings really did not have any real development either.

 

You know guys, I think Kishimoto said that "I have mislead you guys purposly" was just an anger-unleash towards those retard, stupid NS fanatists (fanatists and not fans, there's a huge difference) who went too far!

 

Think about it! Writters also just people/humans who wish to make what they want, then some of their fans became insanes because they don't like someone! What would a human do, regardless who or what is he/she? Tries to unleash the stress and anger piled up the retards. It is understandable, cause face it: getting death threats, being harrassed by the fanatists who are not only harrasing you but even your assisstants and other collegas, creating petitions to ban your manga ect easily can drive someone mad enough to make a sinister anger-unleash. Yes, he went to far too and should not punishing the normal fans (because there are stupid retard fanatists everywhere, NS not exception neither), but don't forget who started it with the harrasings and banning petitions.

 

So I guess some days later he will apologies and tells that the stupid fanatists made him a bit angry with their harrasings and stupidity.

 

lol....you do know these press interviews are screened right? Kishi would have had his advisors train him on the types of questions he will be asked, they would have likely screened the questions being asked as well, he would have been prepped before hand for all this, in many cases the interviewer is actually given the questions he or she is allowed to ask. If Kishi made the comments that he did, it would had very likely had been cleared from the PR guys. This isn't like some comment made on Twitter or on Facebook, this is a pre-planned interview.

 

One thing has become blatantly obvious is that the fans in Japan are asking the same questions we are asking on this site, because everytime an interview comes out it tries to answer some of those questions only they do it so badly that instead of satisfying the people asking the questions, it just leaves them with more questions, and ends up pissing off a whole new set of fans.

 

It really is like a train wreck watching Kishi and the SP people trying to justify themselves. It shouldn't be like this, Kishi was the one who wrote the series, SP were the ones that animated the series, they should know the content of the series better than anyone, all the fans are throwing at them is content they created, we aren't making up fantasies to get our point accross, we are using the source material as evidence for our case...and the fact they can't answer the questions in a acceptable manner just goes to show how little they cared about the series.

 

I've said this before, but I would have thought Kishi would think of the charactors of Naruto as his own children, he would care to give them the best ending written in the best way possible. This story was his livelihood, it put food on the table, gave him fame, and fortune, and fans in all four corners of the world, fans that fought for him, when he was accused of being a bad writer, and a troll. But in a matter of a month, he's managed to destroy the trust of who knows how many fans, we could be looking at thousands maybe even in the hundreds of thousands.

 

Two chapters and movie should not be so damaging that fans would burn their entire collection over, the ending should not be so bad that hundreds of pounds worth of merchandise would be considered Bonfire fuel overnight.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:30 PM

 
 
 
Is there a source for this or are you two just trying bringing up the morale?
 

go back a few pages. I've posted a link to the theatre movie website. Follow the instructions in the quote and decide for yourself what to believe.

Edited by trang95, 05 December 2014 - 10:31 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:31 PM

How The Grinchmoto stole Christmas ( from everyone but NH)
By Dr. Tsuki

Part2:

Then the Fans, Young and old would sit down at their desks.
 And theyd DEBATE! And theyd DEBATE! And theyd DEBATE!

DEBATE! DEBATE! DEBATE!

They would debate about Narusaku, about Sasusaku, and even about Naruhina.
This was something the Grinchmoto could not stand in the least!

And THEN theyd do something he liked least of all!
Every Fan down in Fanville, the Tall and the Small
would post close together with their keyboards a-clacking.
Theyd make post after post. And the Fans would start skyping!
Theyd Skype! And theyd Skype! And theyd SKYPE!
SKYPE! SKYPE! SKYPE!
And the more the Grinchmoto thought of this fan Naruto-skype
The more Grinchmoto thought, I must stop this whole thing!
Why for 15 some years Ive put up with it now!
I must stop these fans from coming! But HOW?

Then he got an Idea! A an Awful idea!
The Grinchmoto got a WONDERFUL, AWFUL IDEA!

I know just what to do! The Grinchmoto laughed in his throat.
and he made a terrible, quick ending where Sai and Yamato disappeared.
And he chuckled, and chuckled, What a great terrible trick!
With Sakura with Sasuke and Naruto with Hinata this ending will tank!


Damn you're hilarious lol. 100/100!!!

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:35 PM

New kishi interview

http://eiga.com/movie/79681/interview/

Trans:

Naruto ending up with Hinata was decided in the very early stages of the story.
Naruto being close to Sakura was a deliberate mislead, thats why the scenes of Sakura being compared to Kushina were introduced.
The Last Movie is not only the story of Naruto falling in love with Hinata, but it is the story of Sakura & Naruto parting ways.
He felt the story of Naruto falling in love with Hinata has to be propely explained, or it wouldnt be fair to the readers. Thats why the Last Movie exists.

^is this really what Kishi said?? If so I'll throw up. He just wanted to keep us interested..
If nh was decided sooo early then why was there barely any interactions?!

 

IMO he's saying this because fans are raging.

He wouldn't need to say this if everyone was happy.

So, in first, it means there is a storm amongs the fans about the manga and Kishi knows it.

 

Good.

 

Second, IMO he's saying this just in order to cover his and SP asses off. Period.


Edited by Otaru, 05 December 2014 - 10:41 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:40 PM

Didn't he say in another interview that he didn't know whether to choose Hinata or Sakura? P: But that in the end, he chose Hinata to spare her feelings because Sakura is a good friend. apparently Hinata is not a good friend


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:52 PM

As deplorable and unjust NH may be, it doesn't tear my skull apart like SS would. Still, a shower of cherry blossoms in an NH scene? These people are kicking, spitting, and defecating on helpless, motionless corpses now. It isn't enough that they give the cold shoulder to what the manga was directing towards or what Sakura's character symbolises, no, they have to take it a step further by giving Hinata the symbolical cherry blossom.

Please, someone tell me that the Japanese fandom has realised the atrocities Pierrot and Kishi are committing with this ending and movie.

 

I guess that's the official message that HInata is Sakura's replacement.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:54 PM

I'm gonna make sure to read this to my kids in the future!!!

MY LIFE IS FINALLY COMPLETE!  °(ಗдಗ。)°.
 

I love you Tsuki  

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How the Grinchmoto Stole Christmas ( From everyone by NH)
By Dr. Tsuki 

Part three:

All I need now is a movie to retcon everything…” Grinchmoto looked around.
And there he found Studio Periot standing around. 

“ Lets make Hinata the heroine instead!” he said, and the Studio eagerly agreed.
So they called up their directors, their assistants and animators. They wrote a script and it was okay.
“No!” He screamed, throwing the papers away. “This simply won’t do, it has to be worse!”
So they wrote it again and again until it was a mass of soggy,mushy shoujo clichés.
Then he released the final two chapters and let the world believe it was a lie.

The fan’s sat stunned in their homes as they stared at their magazines. “This isn’t right!"  
They all cried, but for the Naruhina’s and the Sasusaku’s.
“It must be a lie!” Cried the Narusaku’s. “In the movie all will be well!” and they all quieted down for the night.

“This is just step number one!” The cruel Grinchmoto hissed,
and he crawled to the roof of the first little house whose windows were all dark and slid down the chimney, the bags in his hand fisted tight.
The he stuck his head out of the fire place where all the little subplots he’d abandoned long ago hung neatly in a row.
“These,” He grinned. “Are the first things to go!”

Then he slithered and slunk, with a smile most unpleasant,

Around the whole room, and he took every parallel!

Sakura’s development! Naruto’s confession! Karin’s whole being! The cycle of hate! Popcorn! And logic!
 

And he stuffed them in bags. Then the Grinchmoto, very nimbly,

Stuffed all the bags, one by one, up that chimney!

Then he slunk to the icebox. He took the fan's Naruto Drink!

He took the Fan’s love! He took their ability to stomach his face!

He cleaned out that icebox as quick as a flash.

Why that Grinchmoto even took their very last hope!

Then he stuffed it all the up the chimney with glee.

"And NOW!" grinned Grinchmoto, "I will take away Naruto’s love!"

And the Grinchmoto grabbed the proof, and he started to shove,

When he heard a small sound like the coo of a dove.

 


Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 05 December 2014 - 11:06 PM.

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                                         Pls shame me for procrastinating.  :argh: 


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:55 PM

This is just so sick...

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:55 PM

Didn't he say in another interview that he didn't know whether to choose Hinata or Sakura? P: But that in the end, he chose Hinata to spare her feelings because Sakura is a good friend. apparently Hinata is not a good friend

 

He's lying to himself and the fans obviously, Sushi. If he wasn't, why would he be on damage control like he is right now? 'Cuz to me it sounds like he's on damage control since he knows how much of a kittened-up job he did. He screwed the proverbial pooch with the ending, and how he's claiming the ending was planned out. It's a lie, and he NEEDS to be exposed for his BS.



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:58 PM

i can confirm the parto of the "misleading purposely" with NS. Sadly.

 

Well.

 

The mislead was Sakura loving Sasuke instead of Naruto. Period.

He wants us to believe he made an inception of misleads ? Does he think we are dumb ?  We are reading mangas, and we know what is going on usually.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:58 PM

 
He's lying to himself and the fans obviously, Sushi. If he wasn't, why would he be on damage control like he is right now? 'Cuz to me it sounds like he's on damage control since he knows how much of a f**cked-up job he did. He screwed the proverbial pooch with the ending, and how he's claiming the ending was planned out. It's a lie, and he NEEDS to be exposed for his BS.

I still wonder why NH and SS after the whole 'My wife is like Sakura and I am more like Naruto' fiasco....Yeah! kittenin develop the red herring and make some asspulled couple canon. Makes a lot of sense. Who made him a writer anyway?

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:01 PM

 

MY LIFE IS FINALLY COMPLETE!  °(ಗдಗ。)°.
 

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How the Grinchmoto Stole Christmas ( From everyone by NH)
By Dr. Tsuki 

Part three:

All I need now is a movie to retcon everything…” Grinchmoto looked around.
And there he found Studio Periot standing around. 

“ Lets make Hinata the heroine instead!” he said, and the Studio eagerly agreed.
So they called up their directors, their assistants and animators. They wrote a script and it was okay.
“No!” He screamed, throwing the papers away. “This simply won’t do, it has to be worse!”
So they wrote it again and again until it was a mass of soggy,mushy shoujo clichés.
Then he released the final two chapters and let the world believe it was a lie.

The fan’s sat stunned in their homes as they stared at their magazines. “This isn’t right!"  
They all cried, but for the Naruhina’s and the Sasusaku’s.
“It must be a lie!” Cried the Narusaku’s. “In the movie all will be well!” and they all quieted down for the night.

“This is just step number one!” The cruel Grinchmoto hissed,
and he crawled to the roof of the first little house whose windows were all dark slid down the chimney the bags in his hand fisted tight.
The he stuck his head out of the fire place where all the little subplots he’d abandoned long ago hung neatly in a row.
“These,” He grinned. “Are the first things to go!”

Then he slithered and slunk, with a smile most unpleasant,

Around the whole room, and he took every parallel!

Sakura’s development! Naruto’s confession! Karin’s whole being! The cycle of hate! Popcorn! And logic!
 

And he stuffed them in bags. Then the Grinchmoto, very nimbly,

Stuffed all the bags, one by one, up that chimney!

Then he slunk to the icebox. He took the fan's Naruto Drink!

He took the Fan’s love! He took their ability to stomach his face!

He cleaned out that icebox as quick as a flash.

Why that Grinchmoto even took their very last hope!

Then he stuffed it all the up the chimney with glee.

"And NOW!" grinned Grinchmoto, "I will take away Naruto’s love!"

And the Grinchmoto grabbed the proof, and he started to shove,

When he heard a small sound like the coo of a dove.

 

 

That gif...

Not the popcorn  :argh:

This is great :thumb:  



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:07 PM

Me: Hey Naruto, Sakura I'm sorry he kittened up your characters.

Naruto:Thanks dude.

Sakura: I mean it's one thing to call me a terrible woman to move on from Sasuke. But lying just to cover his ass?

Me:How about I declare his ending non canon and LadyGT's ending the true one?

Naruto:Can we name our kid Shinachiku?

Me:sure.

*Naruto and Sakura hugs me.*

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:10 PM

The day has come. Please make it flop.  :kukuku:



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:15 PM

You overestimate the larger part of his fanbase, they have no standards. That's why this movie will do well despite everything.

I wasn't really talking about the movie. I was talking about Kishi's future. The way a series of this scale ends is very important. Now I'm sure that because of the unsatisfying ending he won't get much of a reception for any other series he
might publish. Didn't he foresee something like this? Or was he really that blind towards his work and fans?

Edited by Paperman, 05 December 2014 - 11:16 PM.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:26 PM

filler hina-hana became like ita-sasu (childhood)  :no:

 

They never ever had that kind of bond in the beginning.

Hinata was ENVIOUS of Hanabi.

They were NEVER hanging out together.

They were almost sisters enemies.

Hanabi was created ONLY to make Hinata look like the underdog of the Hyuga family that can't succeed.


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