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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:46 PM

 

I'd really say sakura's development in part 1 was figuring out what she had to do as a ninja, her role in part 1 was to address her weakness and find how to better herself and well thats what happened.

Which she did and is probably the best in it, isn't it :D?


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:32 PM

I'm still just sad, sad to see that when a major event is coming in the manga, notablity the possibility of a death, rather than be concerned, people are either going to be unsurprised that its obito or rather hoping its sakura and its just sad, I mean even now, the aspect of her living is by all means just because of kishi's writing, if she isnt as critical to the main moment right now or the fight then her death wouldnt entail anything important, yet people only want it because they say it would do good for the story, not it wouldnt, I mean the whole aspect of character investment, well kishi made her invested a lot with others like naruto and tusnade and just plain being with team 7, isn't one of sakuras merits supposed to be maturity in the end if she started out hating naruto and blindly infatuated with sasuke? Considering the conflict she has had from the course of the story, isnt there a need for a resolution on her part? Well to most fans, no, there isnt because they just plain dont care about sakura. My disgust to this, its just plain embarrassing how fans really just want her death to come, I mean they ignored her for a long time and now its they want her dead. I know sakura isnt the biggest character, she is a main but still people treat her like she is unimportant. Trying to ignore her is like ignoring a fair porition of the story, about 30% give or take. She is part of many moments yet people act like Hinata somehow was always there or she is somehow a bigger character. Its just sad, sad that people only want a death to occur because of their preference.

 

I mean I can even make justice out of this argument for a character that died simply because she didnt do much to the plot or have any real form of development: I on my own, liked it when Andrea died in the walking dead tv series, it was just, it wasn't that Andrea was useless, she literally was the problem, its like the writers just deliberately went out of their way to make her as much of a kitten up as they could. I'm not criticizing Andrea for her loss with Amy, I'm not criticizing her for her efforts that were good when she met well, she literally caused much more chaos than was needed how?

 

- They literally made her the title of the "stereotypical dumb blonde" seriously, she couldn't smell danger if it was in front of her, she thought Shane was ideal, she was in love with the Governor, even after knowing what he did, she just got in bed with him and refused to kill him, seriously, this was a guy she met only a few days prior, I mean storywise she couldnt kill him, yet she let him run free even as she tried to get peace with the prison and woodbury.

 

- The biggest offense to most fans, she shot Daryl despite being told many times to not shoot not shoot, she did.

 

- She basically told Dale, the old dude who was really the only one who cared for her, to screw off only to regret it when he died.

 

- She told beth to basically kill herself in the hopeless world, just because she lost her sister, others should do it.

 

- She didn't even get retribution or closure, she was killed in such an easy way, it was just, meh, there was no saddness, no regret, the writers just abused her character to no end. She was killed in such an easy way she could have escaped, but no, it was just, lackluster, her death didnt even contribute anything in a series which is known for character deaths and otherwise giving them meaning. I mean hershel, the most recent to die, his death was like the last voice of reason for the survivors went away, he was killed in such a brutal way, people cried. People were sad when Hershel died. People were sad when Lori died giving birth to Judith, people were sad when they saw Michonne's past, people were sad when Dale died innocently this had an adverse reaction on Carl, The death of Karen though she was a very minor character, impacted Tyreese and Carol (who killed her in an effort to prevent an infection from spreading) and even then, Carol told this to Tyreese and offered to let him kill her, to end her guilt, but Tyreese forgave her and said though he was mad, we needed each other and for Judith (Rick's daughter) to survive. People cried when Sophia died and this was devastating on Carol. People cried when T-dog died sacrificing himself for Carol to get away, people were sad when Oscar, a prisoner died, after showing how though he was once a criminal he had role in helping others survive. All of these deaths, all had meaning, even the racist redneck Myerl went down fighting in an effort to kill the govenor and though he failed, he had a change of heart letting Michonne go rather than offer her as a prisoner to him. Yes people symphatized more with the racist redneck than Andrea, notice the problem? In a series which is known for death, to die doing nothing, espcially as a character running in 3 seasons, thats just bad. People almost celebrated the departure of Andrea, because the writiers just butchered her character so much reducing her to such a terrible underwealming and lackluster, ugh, she is the one character I never minded being killed off in any and all series I ever saw, I mean she really was just that badly written, she is like the slippy toad of the walking dead, no one likes slippy in the star fox series, we always just want to shoot him down to avoid his annoying voice, this one just just oh my god.

 

But unlike the walking dead, wishing death on sakura, theres no merited reason for her to actually die. She is important, she doesn't cause problems, the writers and kishi follow up on her and made her go from a small weak idealism girl to one who grew, gained new abilities, came to respect naruto, views sasuke uneasily now. Theres a much different view of her from point a to b to c, but Andrea, oh boy, she literally was a problem and the writers never made her change for the better, she was literally just so out of touch with the events, its a character like her that deserves all the hate sakura gets, Sakura gets stuff done at least, Andrea was literally one who just made more problems than there had to be. I mean seriously, she trusted Michonne knowing barely anything about her who kept her safe for 8 months, then comes to trust the governor within only 3 days about and doesnt support Michonne. Thats just terrible writing, thats a reason that makes you just hate a character then and there.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:38 PM

Oh yeah, I remember that disaster. All I rememebr is "Boy, wouldn't everything from there to season 4 mid-season finale be prevented if that one scene where she had a weapon to kill went through." Like I understand her intention, which is reasonable, but her actions are the reason why many dislike her and I can't blame them. I really can't. I just went ok in season 3 finale. Didn't warrant me to say, "Damn you, writers!"

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:27 PM

Understanding why people hate Sakura is like trying to understand James(NO OFFENCE LOL I like to read your post.) People love to hate Sakura because they rather see Hinata in her place but it will never be and never happen.

I have friends who cannot and will not like Sakura. They're reason is: Part 1 Sakura. They refuse to think she is different. Like Asuka from Evangelion she got a LOT of hate (I love her) but her final battle made even her haters respect her. I think Sakura needs a moment like that where she will fight until she is near death and she put up a good fight.

Sakura is the only character in Naruto to impact the real world in such a way that people wish death upon her. LOL

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

No the point of Andrea's butchery was just, there was no excuse for it, no god damned excuse

 

Why?

 

Whatever the writers intended to do with her, they failed miserably, it was like the titanic, they wanted it to be something so big but it crashed and sunk faster and became a colossal failure.

 

I mean there is a difference in how kishi portrays Sakura and others compared to how SP does it with the anime, but theres no excuse for Andrea's portrayl in the tv series why?

 

1. The comic was already out for 7 years at the time the tv series began, there was already a lot of material from which the writers could use to make her into a decent character. Her comic character was well written, she was badass, she had a likeable attitude, she helps Rick many times, she is still alive in the present comics and does a lot to help many many people. Its not like they were drawing a blank canvas with orignal characters like Daryl and Merle, they had a lot of material to work with.

 

2. Whatever they intended, its almost unimaginable like how could they screw up such a well loved character in the comics? Just how does this inexcusable horse crap occur? Sure they intended her to be effective and to do some good, but it doesnt work when they just keep writing her in situations when she is just either an insginator or just plain outright stupid to the point, you need to ask is this seriously supposed to be acting or just plain stupidity? I mean given the zombie world they are in, foolish choices are made at times, but none on the scale she did. I mean even Daryl, given he is the character thats almost impossibile to hate, he isnt just a badass or plot armor (taking out a tank) that makes people love him, even in season 4 after the prison fell, he was stuck with Beth in the wild, Beth was otherwise the innocence of the group, the good hearted girl who kept hope for the better and she was stuck with Daryl, the unquestioned badass of the show, and even then the writers were able to give a believeable situation to Daryl in which he had a mental breakdown and cried over how if he didnt stop hunting for the governor, if he had seen Merles intentions before hand, his brother and Hershel would still be alive and they would still all be safe. Daryl blamed himself for not protecting the group as well as he should have. He literally killed himself and was torn up when Beth was kidnapped recently by unknown assailants. He didn't even tell this to Maggie yet and if he does, its going to tear him up again. But on Andrea, its just derp derp derp, one screw up after the next. Basically what the writers did to Andrea's character, was the same as what M.Night Shyamalans the last airbender did to the Avatar franchise, left a steaming horrid stench on it that should never rise again.

 

3. The most inexcusable thing of all the creators of the walking dead had to be aware of this, they had too. Robert Kirkman and the others, the ones who make the comic, they had to be aware of this, they had to realize immenent screw up when it was coming. I mean I can understand if they themselves wanted a different portrayl, but it failed specatuarly, it failed immensely, the creators who they themselves made Andrea in the comics such a well recieved and outstanding character, how could they allow this screw up? How could they allow this to happen? How? They made Andrea a character so many loved, now the tv world of her is just people got sick and tired of her, her prideful attitude, her outright stupidity, etc. People didnt care when she died, people just are happy she is rotting in the grave and hope nothing ever of her character is ever mentioned again.

 

4. What about Laurie Haldruen? The actress who played Andrea? She says she likes her, but I don't know if its plain the writers fault or how she could sell Andrea in these situations. Maybe its primairly the writers but Laurie herself did a good job making us hate Andrea because of just how she portrayed herself acting as a stupid character. There is a difference between the actress and character, and usually people say if you come to hate a character thats a good thing, but generally its good if its someone who causes problems and conflicts counter productive to the good guys, not like Andrea who is outright stupid for the sake of just being stupid. I could hate the governor for his evil deeds, I could hate Shane for his lust and jealousy to rick and struggle for leadership. I couldnt hate Andrea for causing problems that fell on others, I came to hate her because she just kept causing meaningless issues on others. There was nothing redeeming about her either, there was nothing to relate with her. Her death was just the only good thing to happen.

 

And its just that bad, if even the original creators had a hand in the TV show, they had to be aware of this, they had too. There is no excuse for this. They had so much material to draw on, how could they screw up her character? Andrea is the one character in any series, I honestly think that has become outright worthless, its good they killed her off. The comic counterpart was amazing but the tv one, just dear god it was a mess.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:39 PM

I'm not really seeing the connection her considering that her thoughts in 573 was referencing the fact that Naruto fights alone.


Also here's something I just thought of, do people in the narutoverse actually get married or do they just remain couples? I don't really recall anyone saying Minato and Kushina were husband and wife or that Asuma and Kureani were, or.....I guess those are the only couples that come to mind.

 

Again, it's only part of the context. Looking at one scene alone is always going to look like something else. You have to look at how it plays with the whole thing.

573 can be traced all the way back to late part 1 and even early part 2. Anyone remember the Heaven and Earth bridge? Remember what Sakura said there? She was running towards Naruto telling him to stop and saying that they would bring Sasuke back together. In that moment, she wasn't thinking about Sasuke or her "love" for him. She thought about Naruto, was scared over Naruto, and was afraid that right there he was pushing himself too hard.

That is Sakura version of affection in part 2. Look at Hinata in 573, what does she say? "Well, I am going to hold hands and walk beside you." Why is this considered romantic, but what Sakura says isn't? Hinata never thought about what Naruto wanted or thought. She doesn't know and didn't even attempt to try and understand Naruto at all. She doesn't know what Naruto is going through with Sasuke. All she cared about was being with him and holding his hand. Basically, all she does is fantasize about her and Naruto together. She is too busy with her head in the clouds, she is not really seeing what's going on now.

Meanwhile, Sakura is the realist and she knows what is happening. 573 takes places after the confession, 540, and the moments where Naruto and Sasuke said to each other "We are going to fight." She is aware by this time what the future brings and she has chosen to stand by Naruto through it all. To me, that is the most romantic thing ever. You don't need some cheesy, mushy, pink cloud fantasies to be romantic and since Sakura and Hinata are not the same, why do you expect them to act the same?

If Sakura said "I am going to be with Naruto forever and hold his hand the whole way," then I would hate it because that is not Sakura's way. That is Hinata's and as Kishimoto said "She is not Hinata." I don't know why everyone expects them to act the same when it comes to Naruto.

Hell, even Kushina didn't do it with Minato and it is canon that they loved eachother. There was no overblown romantic moments of her fantasizing of them laying in the grass making love or something. In fact, it all started with her thinking Minato was stupid. Minato and Kushina's affection was in how they just clicked with eachother so perfectly. They argued, but they felt for eachother. Kushina trusted Minato and Minato trusted Kushina. They supported each other till the very end. There is no greater love than that.

Love is not about flashy expressions, grossly overdramatic moments, and rainbows over a perfect world. Sometimes love is acceptance. Accepting the other person for who they are and knowing their limits. Understanding them not as a symbol or some idol, but as a person who feels and breathes just like you. Who you want to know more about and find that maybe they are more than just what is on the outside.

The one thing I love about NaruSaku is that is the only pairing that is real. As in, this is what real people do when they love each other. Sure, you can have romantic moments here and there, but it's not a romance novel.

 

As for marriage, I think it is implied that they get married in some way shape or form. Sure, it is not a typical wedding bands and white dresses, but doesn't mean weddings don't exists. Just means they do something different.

 

 

Understanding why people hate Sakura is like trying to understand James(NO OFFENCE LOL I like to read your post.) People love to hate Sakura because they rather see Hinata in her place but it will never be and never happen.

 

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:52 PM

@Inferno: Yeah I know. It's just wrong.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:56 PM

I'm still just sad, sad to see that when a major event is coming in the manga, notablity the possibility of a death, rather than be concerned, people are either going to be unsurprised that its obito or rather hoping its sakura and its just sad, I mean even now, the aspect of her living is by all means just because of kishi's writing, if she isnt as critical to the main moment right now or the fight then her death wouldnt entail anything important, yet people only want it because they say it would do good for the story, not it wouldnt, I mean the whole aspect of character investment, well kishi made her invested a lot with others like naruto and tusnade and just plain being with team 7, isn't one of sakuras merits supposed to be maturity in the end if she started out hating naruto and blindly infatuated with sasuke? Considering the conflict she has had from the course of the story, isnt there a need for a resolution on her part? Well to most fans, no, there isnt because they just plain dont care about sakura. My disgust to this, its just plain embarrassing how fans really just want her death to come, I mean they ignored her for a long time and now its they want her dead. I know sakura isnt the biggest character, she is a main but still people treat her like she is unimportant. Trying to ignore her is like ignoring a fair porition of the story, about 30% give or take. She is part of many moments yet people act like Hinata somehow was always there or she is somehow a bigger character. Its just sad, sad that people only want a death to occur because of their preference.
 
I mean I can even make justice out of this argument for a character that died simply because she didnt do much to the plot or have any real form of development: I on my own, liked it when Andrea died in the walking dead tv series, it was just, it wasn't that Andrea was useless, she literally was the problem, its like the writers just deliberately went out of their way to make her as much of a kitten up as they could. I'm not criticizing Andrea for her loss with Amy, I'm not criticizing her for her efforts that were good when she met well, she literally caused much more chaos than was needed how?
 
- They literally made her the title of the "stereotypical dumb blonde" seriously, she couldn't smell danger if it was in front of her, she thought Shane was ideal, she was in love with the Governor, even after knowing what he did, she just got in bed with him and refused to kill him, seriously, this was a guy she met only a few days prior, I mean storywise she couldnt kill him, yet she let him run free even as she tried to get peace with the prison and woodbury.
 
- The biggest offense to most fans, she shot Daryl despite being told many times to not shoot not shoot, she did.
 
- She basically told Dale, the old dude who was really the only one who cared for her, to screw off only to regret it when he died.
 
- She told beth to basically kill herself in the hopeless world, just because she lost her sister, others should do it.
 
- She didn't even get retribution or closure, she was killed in such an easy way, it was just, meh, there was no saddness, no regret, the writers just abused her character to no end. She was killed in such an easy way she could have escaped, but no, it was just, lackluster, her death didnt even contribute anything in a series which is known for character deaths and otherwise giving them meaning. I mean hershel, the most recent to die, his death was like the last voice of reason for the survivors went away, he was killed in such a brutal way, people cried. People were sad when Hershel died. People were sad when Lori died giving birth to Judith, people were sad when they saw Michonne's past, people were sad when Dale died innocently this had an adverse reaction on Carl, The death of Karen though she was a very minor character, impacted Tyreese and Carol (who killed her in an effort to prevent an infection from spreading) and even then, Carol told this to Tyreese and offered to let him kill her, to end her guilt, but Tyreese forgave her and said though he was mad, we needed each other and for Judith (Rick's daughter) to survive. People cried when Sophia died and this was devastating on Carol. People cried when T-dog died sacrificing himself for Carol to get away, people were sad when Oscar, a prisoner died, after showing how though he was once a criminal he had role in helping others survive. All of these deaths, all had meaning, even the racist redneck Myerl went down fighting in an effort to kill the govenor and though he failed, he had a change of heart letting Michonne go rather than offer her as a prisoner to him. Yes people symphatized more with the racist redneck than Andrea, notice the problem? In a series which is known for death, to die doing nothing, espcially as a character running in 3 seasons, thats just bad. People almost celebrated the departure of Andrea, because the writiers just butchered her character so much reducing her to such a terrible underwealming and lackluster, ugh, she is the one character I never minded being killed off in any and all series I ever saw, I mean she really was just that badly written, she is like the slippy toad of the walking dead, no one likes slippy in the star fox series, we always just want to shoot him down to avoid his annoying voice, this one just just oh my god.
 
But unlike the walking dead, wishing death on sakura, theres no merited reason for her to actually die. She is important, she doesn't cause problems, the writers and kishi follow up on her and made her go from a small weak idealism girl to one who grew, gained new abilities, came to respect naruto, views sasuke uneasily now. Theres a much different view of her from point a to b to c, but Andrea, oh boy, she literally was a problem and the writers never made her change for the better, she was literally just so out of touch with the events, its a character like her that deserves all the hate sakura gets, Sakura gets stuff done at least, Andrea was literally one who just made more problems than there had to be. I mean seriously, she trusted Michonne knowing barely anything about her who kept her safe for 8 months, then comes to trust the governor within only 3 days about and doesnt support Michonne. Thats just terrible writing, thats a reason that makes you just hate a character then and there.

Haters gonna hate, my friend. We all know Sakura has changed. It is nothing which has to be deduced, or needs proof or anything, we can bloody see it. All I say is people have blind hatred(no offence anyone). You know, when we get to see her resolution, I take it, its gonna be a mature one. This in itself will be like a tight smack across the face Sakura haters. And people say Hinata has done more? I AM GONNA FREAKING SUE NH FANDOM! I did not hate Hinata previously, but the comments from NH fandom has made me despise her to death! The ones who claim that Hinata is more important than Sakura are downright delusional. I am sorry to state this so bluntly, but they are delusional! I bet most of the NH fans don't like Sakura because, Sakura is at a level which people think Hinata should be, both from pairing and character outlook. In a way we can say they are jealous of her. I admit, Sakura is not a perfect character; she has flaws as well. But definately she is a far more better character than Hinata. I don't know why people want her to die! She is more or less a main character and apart from that, there's still some things, which she has to deal with. My reasons for keeping Sakura alive are more of personal rather than logical. The hate she gets is....astonishing. But I repeat 'Haters gonna hate'(again no offence anyone). Its better we enjoy our favourite character and pairing, rather than arguing with the NH fandom and spoiling our mood. That's how I see it and take it.

@James, I said the same things long back.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:07 PM

@James, I said the same things long back.

 

Everyone has been saying this really. It's funny really how we constantly say that Sakura and Hinata are not the same and yet, we want Sakura to act like how Hinata does when it comes to Naruto. They are not going to express their feelings the same way and I think we have to remember that. Sakura's way of showing affection is just too different and just because it is not like Hinata would have handled it, does not mean it is any less a moment between them.

Like, here...take 631. Imagine if it was Hinata Minato was referring to and Naruto said that. (I know, it is a bad thought, but bear with me.) How would Hinata react to that comment?


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:22 PM

Everyone has been saying this really. It's funny really how we constantly say that Sakura and Hinata are not the same and yet, we want Sakura to act like how Hinata does when it comes to Naruto. They are not going to express their feelings the same way and I think we have to remember that. Sakura's way of showing affection is just too different and just because it is not like Hinata would have handled it, does not mean it is any less a moment between them.
Like, here...take 631. Imagine if it was Hinata Minato was referring to and Naruto said that. (I know, it is a bad thought, but bear with me.) How would Hinata react to that comment?


She would most like panic and faint is my guess.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:27 PM

She would most like panic and faint is my guess.

Would you consider that a romantic moment?


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:28 PM

Would you consider that a romantic moment?


A funny moment at best, but no kind of shameful.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:37 PM

 
Everyone has been saying this really. It's funny really how we constantly say that Sakura and Hinata are not the same and yet, we want Sakura to act like how Hinata does when it comes to Naruto. They are not going to express their feelings the same way and I think we have to remember that. Sakura's way of showing affection is just too different and just because it is not like Hinata would have handled it, does not mean it is any less a moment between them.

Like, here...take 631. Imagine if it was Hinata Minato was referring to and Naruto said that. (I know, it is a bad thought, but bear with me.) How would Hinata react to that comment?

Hinata's way of showing affection, I mean based on how it is portrayed, it more of feels like, she is only thinking about herself. 'I would be with Naruto kun' but she doesn't even think, whether Naruto feels the same way for her or not. It more of feels like there is only H in NH.
Not being biased, but Sakura's love for Naruto can be said as a true one and well, we all know about Naruto's love. Sakura always thinks of Naruto above herself and she does not expect anything from Naruto in return. Unlike Hinata, it is 'Naruto' for her and not 'I'. I'd love to add more examples and points here, but that will make the post too big

The answer to your question XD
Hinata's thoughts 'Naruto kun called me his girlfriend ^_^. He does care about me. No he LOVES me. Naruto kun I promise you, we will be together locking lips after this war is over', her face grows red and she faints(maybe) meanwhile she forgets they are in a centre of a war and Naruto is recovering.

P.S- I would've loved to imitate Hinata's thoughts in her own voice XD

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:50 PM

Okay.

In my opinion.
Sakura doesnt have complex feelings the problem with her character is that her love for Sasuke doesnt have a reason to exist and Kishi needs to keep it up to maintain the pairing drama.
The manga portrays Sakura's feelings for Sasuke as strong which is shown countless of times thoughout part 1 and 2 and yet the only meaningfull moments are the "thank yoU" and her smilling on the background, other shounens often make the said guy to support the girl for a period of time, we dont see this with SS, Sasuke didnt interacted much with her and when they have he makes sure to keep a distance from her.
Her feelings for Sasuke are based on a crush and are shallow, but Kishimoto portrays it as strong and genuine.

The only reason why people are debating this confession over and over again, is just the fact that some are trying hard to prove that she was honest when she said "i love you" to Naruto despite a few chapters forward she confirms she loves Sasuke.

 

Yeah I know.

I felt just the same before.

Then I understood it was not needed for me to go through that because Kishi is not perfect.

He may haven't written this in the best way, but his intentions were that he wanted us to feel that Sakura might love Naruto.

All she said to him was honest, except for the Sasuke part. She love Naruto, even if it's not 'that' strong yet in her understanding.

 

I think this whole thing with Sasuke some chapters forward is like some of us have explained. I'm starting to believe more and more this interpretation, though at the beginning I wasn't at all. Maybe it's possible she thought about Naruto and then she tought about Sasuke when the fodder ninja started to talk about how good should be a man that Sakura could love.

 

Well, maybe I'm wrong...


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:53 PM

 

Everyone has been saying this really. It's funny really how we constantly say that Sakura and Hinata are not the same and yet, we want Sakura to act like how Hinata does when it comes to Naruto. They are not going to express their feelings the same way and I think we have to remember that. Sakura's way of showing affection is just too different and just because it is not like Hinata would have handled it, does not mean it is any less a moment between them.

Like, here...take 631. Imagine if it was Hinata Minato was referring to and Naruto said that. (I know, it is a bad thought, but bear with me.) How would Hinata react to that comment?

Hmmmmmmm how would it go well maybe she will faint the moment Minato mentions the word girlfriend Hinata faints and Naruto will say she is still weird, which we all know she is as its what Kishi says and even Naruto said so. 



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:57 PM

I'm not sure she would faint, more than likely she would blush n kitten to go with the running gag.

I'm more or less wondering what Naruto would say, would he go out of his way to point out Sakura or would he just deny it?

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:04 PM

He probably be like "what the hell is going on?"

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:12 PM

 

Everyone has been saying this really. It's funny really how we constantly say that Sakura and Hinata are not the same and yet, we want Sakura to act like how Hinata does when it comes to Naruto. They are not going to express their feelings the same way and I think we have to remember that. Sakura's way of showing affection is just too different and just because it is not like Hinata would have handled it, does not mean it is any less a moment between them.

Like, here...take 631. Imagine if it was Hinata Minato was referring to and Naruto said that. (I know, it is a bad thought, but bear with me.) How would Hinata react to that comment?

 

Its funny how some NH fans responded to this when I asked them, some said they wouldnt make a deal of it while then I asked them then why make such an issue of it if it means nothing as it is? The response? None, just left.

 

Its simple how the moment went down, many didnt like it because it was sakura, thats all.

 

Even if it did fall on Hinata, it would make more confusion rather than clarity, I mean we would be surprised at it if it turned out that way but NH would still be lost in its lag of development.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:38 PM

I wonder what exactly would have led Minato to ask Hinata that question. I mean it apparently it doesn't take much after all he came down to the conclusion that Sakura was probably Naruto's girlfriend because she was healing him even though they were literally in the middle of a war zone.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:44 PM

What sets Sakura and Hinata apart is the way they support Naruto.

 

We have various examples where Hinata has doubted Naruto snatching a win from the jaws of defeat. Call it worry but the fact remains that Hinata in those examples didn't have faith Naruto would be able to beat Kiba and Obito (when they first met). What's interesting is that in both those scenes, Sakura (and Kakashi) were fully confident in Naruto's capabilities as a fighter.

 

Then there are the other things which all leads back to time spent together. Hinata knows less about Naruto than Sakura. She doesn't know what he's been through or what happens when a tailed beast is extracted.

 

This is what NaruHina fans fail to realise. The foundation for a relationship such as the one Minato and Kushina had is just not then when it involves Naruto and Sakura. For a while know it's always been about her goals, failing to realise what goals Naruto or wanting to support him.

 

Deep down she knows Naruto doesn't feel the same way about her as he does about Sakura and has most likely given up on chasing him. This was shown perfectly when she dropped to the ground when Naruto was dyng and asked Neji to protect him.

 

They see her character and sympathise with her, then pair her off with Naruo while failing to see the bigger picture. Sakura and Naruto's relationship has foundation, NaruHina doesn't.


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