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#17581 六道仙人

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 20 2013, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the obvious route but trying to be edgy by thinking Tobi is not Obito. Lately, maybe because I'm calmer, I feel this way now.


Well, it was pretty much clear that Tobi was Obito...I repeat this so many times but I resay it again: Kishi is predicable.See the hairstyle for example... Madara never had a such hairstyle and, most of all, he (tobi) was too lively for being a centenarian shinobi huh.gif Besides Tobi was been introduced just after the Kakashi Gaiden... Wasn't that pretty suspicious?

About the hairstyle, have you seen that Uchiha Kagami is a descendant of Shisui? They both had the same hairstyle! laugh.gif Trust me, there were many people who guessed if they were related due to their similar hairstyle.... Well, now it seems that they're right.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 19 2013, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, it was pretty much clear that Tobi was Obito...I repeat this so many times but I resay it again: Kishi is predicable.See the hairstyle for example... Madara never had a such hairstyle and, most of all, he (tobi) was too lively for being a centenarian shinobi huh.gif Besides Tobi was been introduced just after the Kakashi Gaiden... Wasn't that pretty suspicious?

About the hairstyle, have you seen that Uchiha Kagami is a descendant of Shisui? They both had the same hairstyle! laugh.gif Trust me, there were many people who guessed if they were related due to their similar hairstyle.... Well, now it seems that they're right.

That's true. Still, people buy what they see. So, I don't know, after thinking over, I think we may overreacted.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 20 2013, 02:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true. Still, people buy what they see. So, I don't know, after thinking over, I think we may overreacted.


are your referring to what happened after chapter 615 and the last chapter? If so, I agree with you.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 19 2013, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are your referring to what happened after chapter 615 and the last chapter? If so, I agree with you.

Yes, exactly. I am all for open opinion, but when saying it like a confirmation should wait until further notice. That's like saying Tobi is Madara and nothing can say otherwise. 599 or even earlier begged to differ. That's why I'm just waiting. It's good to calm your mind.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:31 AM

NaruSaku is still on for all purposes, I mean kishi basically confirmed this back in the interview when one fan asked about the confession, he basically did confirm the love triangle was still on.

Anyways I think the only thing to say about the new chapter next week is to be clam and be prepared and when something new or shocking comes up, don't take it all at once, things can still go in tons of ways. Only things we know are coming are Naruto reuniting with Minato and the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight at the end.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 20 2013, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, exactly. I am all for open opinion, but when saying it like a confirmation should wait until further notice. That's like saying Tobi is Madara and nothing can say otherwise. 599 or even earlier begged to differ. That's why I'm just waiting. It's good to calm your mind.


that's why i said, i will wait until the revelation of who is naruto's rin? is it sakura or hinata.
the moment i see chapter 599 at that time i belive obito said "come tnj me naruto, don't you see our similiarity?"
and after that a flashback chapter about obito. this time further put importance about romance love in this manga,

can you see how obito look like naruto? he want to be hokage, have rivalries with genius, and have a crush with a medic girl who has crush with genius.
if kishi screw this up, than i will drop this manga.

oh btw the answer you seek, all lie in flashback.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:31 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 19 2013, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that's why i said, i will wait until the revelation of who is naruto's rin? is it sakura or hinata.
the moment i see chapter 599 at that time i belive obito said "come tnj me naruto, don't you see our similiarity?"
and after that a flashback chapter about obito. this time further put importance about romance love in this manga,

can you see how obito look like naruto? he want to be hokage, have rivalries with genius, and have a crush with a medic girl who has crush with genius.
if kishi screw this up, than i will drop this manga.

oh btw the answer you seek, all lie in flashback.


Hmm given that Sakura is a medic ninja as was Rin, and Hinata is not, gee I wonder who the parallel was...

Obito is like Naruto
Kakashi is like Sasuke
So who is rin like? Hinata who is not a medical ninja nor had a team dynamic with Shino and Kiba? I recall Sakura being a medical ninja and having the same dynamics with Naruto and Sasuke as rin did with Obito and Kakashi.

There are 4 parallels with Naruto: Jiriaya, Minato, Obito, and Hashirama
4 for Sasuke: Orochimaru, Kakashi, Madara (as hateful), and Itachi (as resolved)
There are 3 for Sakura: Tsunade, Rin, and Kushina

Hinata has not even 1 parallel, none at all, if there is nothing now then how can she be like Rin? If Obito targets "the one he loves" wouldn't we get something with Sakura realizing its her? Could Obito mistakenly target Hinata? Would Hinata sacrifice herself is she was somehow aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura? Don't know but Hinata has not one parallel.

I'd say NaruSaku has the advantage in terms of parallels. its practically proven.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:32 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 19 2013, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that's why i said, i will wait until the revelation of who is naruto's rin? is it sakura or hinata.
the moment i see chapter 599 at that time i belive obito said "come tnj me naruto, don't you see our similiarity?"
and after that a flashback chapter about obito. this time further put importance about romance love in this manga,

can you see how obito look like naruto? he want to be hokage, have rivalries with genius, and have a crush with a medic girl who has crush with genius.
if kishi screw this up, than i will drop this manga.

oh btw the answer you seek, all lie in flashback.


It's obviously Sakura Naruto's Rin since it fits perfectly with the parallel.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:40 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 19 2013, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, it was pretty much clear that Tobi was Obito...I repeat this so many times but I resay it again: Kishi is predicable.See the hairstyle for example... Madara never had a such hairstyle and, most of all, he (tobi) was too lively for being a centenarian shinobi huh.gif Besides Tobi was been introduced just after the Kakashi Gaiden... Wasn't that pretty suspicious?

About the hairstyle, have you seen that Uchiha Kagami is a descendant of Shisui? They both had the same hairstyle! laugh.gif Trust me, there were many people who guessed if they were related due to their similar hairstyle.... Well, now it seems that they're right.

Yeah Kishi is weird like that. He can do something rather predictable like Tobi being Obito, but then he just throws in random things like the Uzumaki clan and Sasuke's answer in the last chapter. Overall, I think Kishi sticks with development throughout the story instead of asspulls for most major events, so I'm confident in NaruSaku for that reason. I can forgive things like Izanami and the Uzumaki Shrine, but this inconsistency is unnerving. bash.gif

BTW the only time I actually doubted Tobi being Obito was when it was revealed that he had two Sharingan. But that was short-lived because I remembered that he could have just implanted one. sweatdrop.gif
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 20 2013, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm given that Sakura is a medic ninja as was Rin, and Hinata is not, gee I wonder who the parallel was...

Obito is like Naruto
Kakashi is like Sasuke
So who is rin like? Hinata who is not a medical ninja nor had a team dynamic with Shino and Kiba? I recall Sakura being a medical ninja and having the same dynamics with Naruto and Sasuke as rin did with Obito and Kakashi.

There are 4 parallels with Naruto: Jiriaya, Minato, Obito, and Hashirama
4 for Sasuke: Orochimaru, Kakashi, Madara (as hateful), and Itachi (as resolved)
There are 3 for Sakura: Tsunade, Rin, and Kushina

Hinata has not even 1 parallel, none at all, if there is nothing now then how can she be like Rin? If Obito targets "the one he loves" wouldn't we get something with Sakura realizing its her? Could Obito mistakenly target Hinata? Would Hinata sacrifice herself is she was somehow aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura? Don't know but Hinata has not one parallel.

I'd say NaruSaku has the advantage in terms of parallels. its practically proven.


i belive that mito is sakura parallel, and it obvious to me that mito is tsunade with red hair.
that's why we don't see her in hashirama flashback.(this is just speculation btw)

that's why if it hinata i will really really drop this manga, especially if the reason naruto do that because obito and jiraiya didn't have someone like hinata rolleyes.gif

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:02 AM

This is the first time I think I've ever wanted a weekend to go by quickly. Tuesday can't come soon enough. eager.gif

I think though we can narrow the next chapter's main event to a couple of possibilities:

-Sakura goes to a dying Tsunade a_thumbs.gif

-NS moment a_dance.gif

-Orochimaru or Sasuke betrays the Kages a_thumbs.gif

-Minato meets Naruto a_thumbs.gif

-Madara effs up the alliance

-The Kages and Taka arrive at the battlefield[Asspull version] down.gif

-Sasuke saves Sakura th_cussing.gif

-Or more NH down.gif

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:21 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 19 2013, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i belive that mito is sakura parallel, and it obvious to me that mito is tsunade with red hair.
that's why we don't see her in hashirama flashback.(this is just speculation btw)

that's why if it hinata i will really really drop this manga, especially if the reason naruto do that because obito and jiraiya didn't have someone like hinata rolleyes.gif


Well the thing is, we don't know much about Mito aside from what Kushina said. If Mito had been in this flashback and revealed to be a loudmouthed hard lined but kind and gentle woman like Tsunade and Kushina, I would attribute that to Sakura as well but she did not appear, we know nothing of her aside from Kushina.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:25 AM

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:27 AM

Here's my prediction :

Next chapter we cut to the kage's and for 1-2 chapters they get some panel time and then we cut back to the alliance for 1-3 chapters and then Sasuke arrives with the hokages

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:43 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 19 2013, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's my prediction :

Next chapter we cut to the kage's and for 1-2 chapters they get some panel time and then we cut back to the alliance for 1-3 chapters and then Sasuke arrives with the hokages

I agree! smile.gif

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:46 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Apr 19 2013, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree! smile.gif

I want Sakura nowww though! *pouts like a little kid* LMAO sakura.gif

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:50 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 19 2013, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want Sakura nowww though! *pouts like a little kid* LMAO sakura.gif

She will be at the kages, so if we get 1-2 chapters of them, Sakura will be there for a huge bit of development from Tsunade. tongue.gif

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:59 AM

relax once sakura sees tsunade something will snap

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:16 AM

But there's no guarantee that she's with the Kages. That's just a theory that people came up with when she wasn't there during 617. To me, it makes no sense for her to be with the Kages at this point in time because she had no way of knowing what happened to Tsunade, and even if she did know, she has no way to get there. People assume that Sai took her, or that she was reverse-summoned, but those are all just theories with no evidence behind them. I don't expect to see Sakura anywhere other than the Alliance fight.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:28 AM

I doubt Sasuke and the Hokages will join the fight immediately. Kishi can just build up the hype/anticipation by delaying it a few more weeks. The next chapter will probably be reactions to the Juubi being free, and just getting us back into the war "mood." We had to sit through like 2 months of flashbacks, so he may want to get us reacquainted with the main battle. I'm not really expecting Sakura or the injured Kages, but I'd be pleasantly suprised if we got either. I dunno, I'm losing patience with Kishi. If we're force-fed more Hinata, I might snap. argh1.png
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