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[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Your point is entirely different from his.

Yes. Mine makes sense.

[HalfStarStudios]

Yes. Mine makes sense.

Both of them make sense but the your reply had nothing to do with what he was talking about. Hence, you missed the point.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Both of them make sense but the your reply had nothing to do with what he was talking about. Hence, you missed the point.

What he pointed out was that during NS hug some backgroud kids were blushing like crazy. It is suppose to prove that NS hug is romantic in nature. Is this his point? If not, what is?

[Slextrem]

I humorously pointed out that blush does not equal romance.

When you have an entire crowd of people blushing at a, for lack of better word, "couple" embracing, then there is a romantic implication. It indicates that, at the very least, the people in the crowd that are blushing at them consider it a romantic moment.

The blush with Inari is different. He complimented her, so she blushes out of embarrassment, like any woman not expecting to be told they look "so pretty" would. Context.

What he pointed out was that during NS hug some backgroud kids were blushing like crazy. It is suppose to prove that NS hug is romantic in nature. Is this his point? If not, what is?

Darkrerst: "But what make the scene romantic is the fact that Naruto received the acknowledgment of everyone though Sakura's hug, there nothing more romantic to a hero to receive this just from the woman he loves." <--- This would be his point. You overlooked it.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 January 2013 - 07:10 PM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

When you have an entire crowd of people blushing at a, for lack of better word, "couple" embracing, then there is a romantic implication. It indicates that, at the very least, the people in the crowd that are blushing at them consider it a romantic moment.

The blush with Inari is different. He complimented her, so she blushes out of embarrassment, like any woman not expecting to be told they look "so pretty" would. Context.

Sure. Context is what makes all these moments different. Blush doesn't always equal romantic moment in the shippy way. I call that my point.

Darkrerst: "But what make the scene romantic is the fact that Naruto received the acknowledgment of everyone though Sakura's hug, there nothing more romantic to a hero to receive this just from the woman he loves." <--- This would be his point. You overlooked it.

Actually I just didn't think that worth adressing since that is not really something that strikes me as romantic. We know that Naruto likes Sakura romantically and hence the context of NS hug to Naruto might be/would be romantic. That Naruto loves Sakura romantically makes it romantic. Not the acknowledgement from Sakura.

Edit. We probably mean the same thing, actually, now that I think about it. The hug might be romantic moment to Naruto because he receives a hug from the girl he loves. Is it romantic to Sakura, that we don't know yet. Correct?

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 01 January 2013 - 07:15 PM.

[mm123]

What he pointed out was that during NS hug some backgroud kids were blushing like crazy. It is suppose to prove that NS hug is romantic in nature. Is this his point? If not, what is?

False analogy there broski. Inari directly complimented Sakura, it makes sense for here to blush even if she holds no romantic feelings for him. However the kids in the hug scene have not been complimented in any way, their blushes are a reaction to seeing Naruto and Sakura hug. I don't know about you but I've never scene other people blush when two friends hug each other in a purely platonic way.

[Slextrem]

Sure. Context is what makes all these moments different. Blush doesn't always equal romantic moment in the shippy way. I call that my point.

Of course it doesn't. However, in this particular situation, it does. That's my point.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 January 2013 - 07:14 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Sure. Context is what makes all these moments different. Blush doesn't always equal romantic moment in the shippy way. I call that my point.

i dont wanna debate about it.........but artist don't just put something there for the heck of it...

if the villagers are blushing it means they saw them hugging and thought it was cute/romantic

there was no reason for kishi to draw them blushing.

I'm an artist, and if i draw a character blushing it's gonna mean something! XD i want it to mean something because I TOOK THE TIME TO DRAW IT!! XD


again don't wanna start a debate! but thats just how it seems.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

i dont wanna debate about it.........but artist don't just put something there for the heck of it...

if the villagers are blushing it means they saw them hugging and thought it was cute/romantic

there was no reason for kishi to draw them blushing.

Oh, I agree. What I meant to add was that Kishi has drawn characters blushing in a lot of different circumstances for a lot of different reasons. Therefore everytime we see a character blush does not mean that we can assume that something romantic is going on. You can say that the blush in ch 450 proves the romantic nature of the scene, and I can for my part argue that blush doesn't necessarily imply a romantic moment by pointing out scenes where the characters are seeing blushing for different reason. Since we don't know the full context of NS hug because we don't have confirmation of Sakura's feelings for Naruto, the scene remains ambiguous. Does this make sense?

[luffyq1]

The way I see it, it's a romantic situation, but it's not mutually romantic. Much like the hug in chapter 450, it was a romantic moment between Naruto and his love interest, but it doesn't mean Sakura is in love with Naruto.

Just like how in this scene Naruto has no romantic feelings for Hinata, but she does for him. It's one of those scenes where the background is purely white; something Kishi has done for most romantic moments in the manga,

Doesn't matter what we think of the hug in 450. That little girl certainly thought it was romantic and that's enough evidence for me. Funny how a couple of people in the Narutoverse seem to think Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend.

[PhenixElite]

Oh, I agree. What I meant to add was that Kishi has drawn characters blushing in a lot of different circumstances for a lot of different reasons. Therefore everytime we see a character blush does not mean that we can assume that something romantic is going on. You can say that the blush in ch 450 proves the romantic nature of the scene, and I can for my part argue that blush doesn't necessarily imply a romantic moment by pointing out scenes where the characters are seeing blushing for different reason. Since we don't know the full context of NS hug because we don't have confirmation of Sakura's feelings for Naruto, the scene remains ambiguous. Does this make sense?

We know that sakura has feelings for sakura. That is fact. No one can say that this is not confirmed, because its even in the databook.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Oh, I agree. What I meant to add was that Kishi has drawn characters blushing in a lot of different circumstances for a lot of different reasons. Therefore everytime we see a character blush does not mean that we can assume that something romantic is going on. You can say that the blush in ch 450 proves the romantic nature of the scene, and I can for my part argue that blush doesn't necessarily imply a romantic moment by pointing out scenes where the characters are seeing blushing for different reason. Since we don't know the full context of NS hug because we don't have confirmation of Sakura's feelings for Naruto, the scene remains ambiguous. Does this make sense?

We dont need a confirmation of her feelings for Naruto to imply that this scene is romantic, this scene was romantic for a lot of reasons not just the kids but too the fact that naruto received a hug from sakura in the middle of the whole village with everyone looking proudly as acknowledgment.
If he received this hug from INo, tenten, Hinata, whatever it would be romantic on the same way.
I'm done with this guy/girl whatever.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 January 2013 - 07:25 PM.

[Slextrem]

Oh, I agree. What I meant to add was that Kishi has drawn characters blushing in a lot of different circumstances for a lot of different reasons. Therefore everytime we see a character blush does not mean that we can assume that something romantic is going on. You can say that the blush in ch 450 proves the romantic nature of the scene, and I can for my part argue that blush doesn't necessarily imply a romantic moment by pointing out scenes where the characters are seeing blushing for different reason. Since we don't know the full context of NS hug because we don't have confirmation of Sakura's feelings for Naruto, the scene remains ambiguous. Does this make sense?

Same thing can be said for Naruto holding hands with Hinata.

No one here is saying that the hug scene is romantic because it proves that Sakura loves Naruto. We know that's not the case because of chapter 540. Like I said, at the very least, the people in the crowd that are blushing at them consider it a romantic moment, (and we can say that because of the context). This is why we say that there is a romantic undertone to the hug scene, whether Sakura realizes it or not.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 January 2013 - 07:29 PM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

We know that sakura has feelings for sakura. That is fact. No one can say that this is not confirmed, because its even in the databook.

I don't want to start a massive debate about this but no, this has not been confirmed. Not in the same way that Hinata's romantic feelings for Naruto have been confirmed. It might have been hinted at, but it is far from confirmed.

Same thing can be said for Naruto holding hands with Hinata.

Indeed. Which is why I compared those two scenes to each other.

Naruto taking Hinata's hand could at this point be interpreted either way, platonic or romantic, just like the hug between NS.

So. Can I ask? What would to you (to you all, that is) then prove that Naruto's interested in Hinata romantically? Not just handholding, clearly.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 01 January 2013 - 07:30 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Dang, Poison, they just tore apart your joke about blushing and SakuInari!

Srys bizness gaiz.

[Slextrem]

Indeed. Which is why I compared those two scenes to each other.

Apologies. I didn't see that post.

Edited by Slextrem, 01 January 2013 - 07:39 PM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Dang, Poison, they just tore apart your joke about blushing and SakuInari!

Srys bizness gaiz.

Joke?! Joke?! You insult my OTP! Sakura and Inari share a deep bond that won't be broken by your dismissive remarks!

Apologies. I didn't see that post.

No problem.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 01 January 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[PhenixElite]

I don't want to start a massive debate about this but no, this has not been confirmed. Not in the same way that Hinata's romantic feelings for Naruto have been confirmed. It might have been hinted at, but it is far from confirmed.

It has been confirmed.
First time at the heaven and earth bridge through yamato.
Second, the databook says that that shes is not sure about her feelings for naruto, and if you are not sure about something it can only be romantic and not friedship.
So for sure it is confirmed that she has romantic feelings for him.

ITs even laughable to debathe something like that.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Joke?! Joke?! You insult my OTP! Sakura and Inari share a deep bond that won't be broken by your dismissive remarks!


No problem.

Pfft, I counter your SakuInari with my NaruHanabi! I admit, Paradox_Jast's fanfics had a hand in influencing me towards this crack pairing.



Ehem, back to your regular, prolonged 615...discussion.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

It has been confirmed.
First time at the heaven and earth bridge through yamato.
Second, the databook says that that shes is not sure about her feelings for naruto, and if you are not sure about something it can only be romantic and not friedship.
So for sure it is confirmed that she has romantic feelings for him.

ITs even laughable to debathe something like that.

If the best thing you can cite to confirm Sakura's romantic feelings for Naruto is "she is unsure how she feels", there is no confirmation.

Pfft, I counter your SakuInari with my NaruHanabi! I admit, Paradox_Jast's fanfics had a hand in influencing me towards this crack pairing.



Ehem, back to your regular, prolonged 615...discussion.

Does Hinata know about that? Can't wait for 616, what will we be endlessly discussing after that chapter?

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 01 January 2013 - 07:39 PM.