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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

To become stronger so she can protect both Naruto and Sasuke, and help Naruto so they can all(team 7) live happy again.

Though as any Sakura fan, I was also disappointed when she said she would leave everything to Naruto and Sasuke. I would be please if she flat out stated she had a goal too, because we can only speculate for now. That's alright of course, it's fiction after all, but I don't even know if Kishi has thought of her like this.

This is the problem, Naruto desires peace to the world, Sasuke still an incognite, Sakura does not have an objective of her own, wanting to protect someome is not a personal objective, is not a reason to fight, example of this is Naruto himself, "i wont let you kill any of my friends" one of his friends die, then he wavers, if Sakura does not have an objective of her own, then she would feel the same as Naruto when Naruto and Sasuke fight with each other, she cant protect both of them when they are fighting.

Also to help Naruto, everyone is helping him so i dont think it's her dream, i wish Kishimoto could specify this, helping Naruto to achieve his dreams would be a good start.

[Sakura_Blossom]

Sakura is for Naruto same that Konan was for Nagato/Pain, a kind of helper/partner/friend who supports and believes in his dreams.

[Sojobo]

Sakura is for Naruto same that Konan was for Nagato/Pain, a kind of helper/partner/friend who supports and believes in his dreams.

I hope so, cause that's what Kishimoto is telling/showing us from the beginning.

Edited by Sojobo, 18 April 2013 - 11:33 PM.

[redragon88]

I agree with you about Sakura, and I feel sad for the character, really, cause she was so good developped in the beginning of second part. Her fight with Sasori, her main objective to protect both Naruto and Sasuke.
And today, I don't see anything. I'm really questioning myself about that scene with Yamato where she's trying to find a way to be usefull for Naruto.
I believe in NS, so I believe also in her finding a way to succeed. But right now, I see only Hinata doing usefull things for Naruto.

Where the hell is Sakura ?
I hope Kishi knows what he's doing, and just doesn't change his scenario because of the fandom or his assistants, like Toriyama with the Adroids Saga.

What's the story there?

Also, about Hinata, if she wasn't gonna do something for Naruto in 615 then she wasn't gonna do anything at all for the rest of the series. That was her character resolution, it had to be her. Someone else might've gotten it wrong. (extra points if anyone gets the reference )

Chapters 614 and 615 were the resolution of the Hyuuga storyline from back on the chunin exams. Neji finally understands free will and Hinata is finally able to speak to Naruto face to face.

[Beastbomb]

I used to be afraid of zombies. But then I realised something... Zombies are overrated. Here`s why:

1. They are slow. I can run fast but not far but Im pretty sure I can outrun one.
2. Zombies are weak. Their musles and nerves are deteriorated. If they managed to catch you, you can probably fight off about 5 of them.
3. Zombies are dumb. Their brains run on basic funtions and you can probably outthink and outmanover one.
4. Zombies are not agile. Again you can probably outmanover them
5. Zombies are not nuke proof. In case of zombie apocalipse you nuke the town and fix the problem.
6. Zombies cant take down tanks. Blast the motherf*****s.
7. Zombies are not impervious to bullets and nades. Just imobilize them.

Thats why I stopped watching the walking dead. It impossible for it to happen. Every decent military in the world can handle a zombie outbreak. Especially if a group of random survivors can.
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The problem with your arguement is that people turn into zombies when they die. It's a viral disease like Resident Evil except everyone is infected. The virus isn't strong enough to take control of a live human, but the dead have lost their immunity and thus are able turn.

[rikakim94]

I agree with you about Sakura, and I feel sad for the character, really, cause she was so good developped in the beginning of second part. Her fight with Sasori, her main objective to protect both Naruto and Sasuke.
And today, I don't see anything. I'm really questioning myself about that scene with Yamato where she's trying to find a way to be usefull for Naruto.
I believe in NS, so I believe also in her finding a way to succeed. But right now, I see only Hinata doing usefull things for Naruto.

Where the hell is Sakura ?
I hope Kishi knows what he's doing, and just doesn't change his scenario because of the fandom or his assistants, like Toriyama with the Adroids Saga.

I sadly agree with this post even if its a little negative but has a good point.

maybe kishi really did forget about her character and his willing to bow down to fans and let them write the series for him. Naruto himself dosen't feel like main character ether sasukes getting more development than him.

im not willing to read the next arc just going to see tumbler reaction.

[redragon88]

I hope so, cause that's what Kishimoto is telling/showing us from the beginning.

It does make sense actually. We have Konan bravely stating that she'll now be the pillar that supports Naruto's bridge towards peace, but unfortunately we have Obito immediately kill her in a very unceremonious fashion.

Now Sakura will take Konan's place as the rightful pillar that will push forward Naruto's dreams for peace as the Hokage.

[Shadow1275]

What's the story there?

Also, about Hinata, if she wasn't gonna do something for Naruto in 615 then she wasn't gonna do anything at all for the rest of the series. That was her character resolution, it had to be her. Someone else might've gotten it wrong. (extra points if anyone gets the reference )

Chapters 614 and 615 were the resolution of the Hyuuga storyline from back on the chunin exams. Neji finally understands free will and Hinata is finally able to speak to Naruto face to face.

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I think that especially after the scene where Hinata promises to hold Naruto's hand, she doesn't have any more development unless Naruto's feelings change. If Naruto still wants to save Sasuke after all he has done, I doubt that his romantic feelings will change.

As for Sakura's character, she never said that she would rescue Sasuke, only that she would support Naruto in doing this. Sakura has never had any influence on Sasuke, IE curse mark before pre-lims, Sasuke leaves Konoha, every single team 7 reunion. Sasuke has severed the bond between them which is why her love for him is selfish.

However, Sakura did pledge to be by Naruto's side at the end of the war. Hopefully Kishimoto comes through with this promise.

As for comparing DBZ to Naruto storywise, are we really going to do this. I loved DBZ but c'mon, calling DBZ a story enriched series that explores the meaning of humanity is like calling Naruto a romantic love tale. Nothing about the story in DBZ or the romance in Naruto makes sense, it's just awesome.

Well besides the love between Naruto and Sakura. There is actually development which makes it work

Edited by Shadow1275, 18 April 2013 - 11:56 PM.

[Sakura_Blossom]

Someone here's hoping Sakura this chapter tuesday?

[James S Cassidy]

That's part of why I dislike the over-sexualization of male and female characters. It gives people unrealistic expectations for their own relationships. I know far too many women that think it's disgusting to see chest-hair on a man, for example, just because all of the movie actors they've seen are as smooth as a dolphin. In my opinion, something like that should be irrelevant. That doesn't determine whether or not I'm going to find my partner attractive - their personality, the way that they treat me, and their values will. Sure, there should be a physical attraction, but that's not all there is to a relationship. I'm not interested in a pretty boy if they have a flat personality.

Some men also have unrealistic expectations for women too. My co-worker told me once that, when she was walking to work, some ass-hat pulled up next to her and said something along the lines of, "You're wasting your looks!", just because she was wearing more conservative clothes that day. He was genuinely upset that she wasn't exposing more of her legs and chest for him to look at. Ew! I also know some guys that won't give certain girls a chance because they're "too fat", "too flat", or "not wild enough" for their liking. Why should any of that matter? Even when they develop closer relationships with those women, they will refuse to get involved because of those reasons alone. Unless she's a sex-kitten, it's impossible to catch their attention. Funny enough, those same guys have either never had a girlfriend before or their past relationships have lasted no longer than a month.

You might be the sexiest person alive, but if your personality is kitten, who's going to want to be with you?

And yet, there are girls that are gullible enough to go for a guy like that thinking "I could change him." As well, as guys forever going about the girls who don't really care about them anyway.

And guys like me who...seemed to get ignored more often than not for whatever reason.

I guess, in a good sort of way, those who never known love or are ignored in it tend to appreciate more than a person who always has that "attention"

It is stupidity, yet people still follow it.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 April 2013 - 12:11 AM.

[六道仙人]

I hope so, cause that's what Kishimoto is telling/showing us from the beginning.

Well, Hinata supported his nindo, more importat she just imitated him whatever, and Sakura supported his dream.

after I read all ALL THIS I don't know how NS wouldn't become canon :/

Edited by 六道仙人, 19 April 2013 - 01:06 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, Hinata supported his nindo, more importat she just imitated him whatever, and Sakura supported his dream.

after I read all ALL THIS I don't know how NS wouldn't become canon :/

where?
Just with the " i dont want to see this dream crushed" it's more about supporting him, but did i see her having her own wishes? the only things that she did on her own was her fight against Ino which she wanted to prove she was stronger than Ino, and this was related to herself, about supporting Naruto's dream she ends the reunition with the team 7 with "the only thing i can do is to believe in them" so wtf, didnt she vowed to support Naruto now she give up and have faith on him?
Sakura is getting inconsistent, also her speech on 573 is different than her thoughts on the reunition arc.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 April 2013 - 01:23 AM.

[Inferno180]

Well, Hinata supported his nindo, more importat she just imitated him whatever, and Sakura supported his dream.

after I read all ALL THIS I don't know how NS wouldn't become canon :/

That link needs its own thread.

Basically nothing there we already don't know but still right on track.

[Shadow1275]

Well, Hinata supported his nindo, more importat she just imitated him whatever, and Sakura supported his dream.

after I read all ALL THIS I don't know how NS wouldn't become canon :/

Nice Find

Now if I have to debate any more NH shippers[respectfully of course ;)] I'll just post this link and Slex's Build Up

Not that there was ever any doubt.

[redragon88]

Someone here's hoping Sakura this chapter tuesday?

I think you'd have a harder time finding someone who isn't hoping.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

Well, Hinata supported his nindo, more importat she just imitated him whatever, and Sakura supported his dream.

after I read all ALL THIS I don't know how NS wouldn't become canon :/

Does Ino really said that or its Fan made ?

[Inferno180]

I think you'd have a harder time finding someone who isn't hoping.

The one argument you would need for any NH fan who claims Sakura loving Naruto would be out of pity,

no that is exactly what NH would be, without the extent of development NS has seen, that would be forced. It would literally have reduced Hinata's overall role as just a fodder character for love. She has her development but it makes no sense for Naruto to ever turn his back on Sakura. I still have not seen any NH fan manage to make a good case for this.

[Metalhead87]

Does Ino really said that or its Fan made ?

I was wondering the same thing. I did some research and found that she says it to Sakura during episode 23 of the Naruto anime (after he makes his proclamation before phase 1 of the chunin exams). Hope that helps!

[Sakura_Blossom]

I think you'd have a harder time finding someone who isn't hoping.

Hahaha true,my error . I should have said "someone BELIEVES that Sakura will appear in this chapter?"

[Don-kun]

The one argument you would need for any NH fan who claims Sakura loving Naruto would be out of pity,

no that is exactly what NH would be, without the extent of development NS has seen, that would be forced. It would literally have reduced Hinata's overall role as just a fodder character for love. She has her development but it makes no sense for Naruto to ever turn his back on Sakura. I still have not seen any NH fan manage to make a good case for this.

If people can spout nonsense about 2009 Interview hinting at Sasuke being Hokage instead of Naruto, what makes you believes that they will not continue to spout out nonsense about NH and SS having a better chance than NS?

My only concern with NS is that for any chance Kishi got buy out by the fandom otherwise all the hints, parallels, foreshadowing, etc, in the Manga are leading to a NS end.

I was wondering the same thing. I did some research and found that she says it to Sakura during episode 23 of the Naruto anime (after he makes his proclamation before phase 1 of the chunin exams). Hope that helps!

1st- Ino never said anything like that in Naruto episode 23 unless some Naruto anime site remove that part.

2nd- That Ino seems like Ino from Shippuden but Naruto shippuden episode 23 was Chiyo and Sakura vs Sasori.

Does Anyone has the ability to post a image shot of this scene?

Edited by Don-kun, 19 April 2013 - 05:23 AM.