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#17441 Inferno180

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 02:59 AM

True, but two wrongs don't make it right. This can kill NS completely. Not saying it will happen but man, that would have been a disaster.

 

But its just hard to image, I mean, how can you have team 7 in the end without sakura? Just shafting her role, even just as part of team 7, into nothingness when theres really not even a backup for development elsewhere? I mean Hinata can fulfill being a love interest but doesn't have any relevence to the naruto vs sasuke conflict now does she? Just sakura getting killed by a chakra rod like that, or bleeding out, her death doesn't serve any purpose, its like when people thought she would give her life for naruto and obito revives her. Obito is going to die anyways, at some point, its like the same situation again, if sakura is close to dying, well theres no harm in her getting wounded but dying causes a lot of issues. besides at this point obitos already had tailed beasts ripped from him, the gedo mazu, forced to use the rinne tensei, and been a meat puppet for BZ, even having to forcely remove another tailed beast yin kurama from himself along with the 1 and 8 tails chakra poritions, he still isnt dead, taking a hit for sakura or saving her isn't out of the picture, I mean looking at this other stuff, he has had quite a day. A rod landing in his back doesnt seem as bad as having so many things ripped from his own body now does it?



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#17442 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:10 AM

My point is that line I wrote is what can destroy all past developments because it's for her look. I mean, we all believe it's more than that, which is pretty much clear here, but imagine if that was it. That would have been horrible.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:13 AM

besides at this point obitos already had tailed beasts ripped from him, the gedo mazu, forced to use the rinne tensei, and been a meat puppet for BZ, even having to forcely remove another tailed beast yin kurama from himself along with the 1 and 8 tails chakra poritions, he still isnt dead, taking a hit for sakura or saving her isn't out of the picture, I mean looking at this other stuff, he has had quite a day. A rod landing in his back doesnt seem as bad as having so many things ripped from his own body now does it?


especially when you consider he was waiting to be stabbed in the eye.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:23 AM

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:30 AM

Lol I was only saying as a what if. Not really saying that will happen. It's just a movie that I have yet to see but I find it a bit replusive for that guy to say that exact word.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:04 AM

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If that's gonna happen, its gonna be a disaster. Oh! Disaster is too small, its gonna be an apocalypse for all the Naruto readers and fandoms excluding SS who will be shocked because they themselves would not expect it. Me...if that happens, I'll leave this chaotic world for good in search of inner peace XD.

@Luffyq1 and @Tyraantx, you guys really have a good sense of humour XDDDD

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:05 AM

Not sure if I'm overthinking it but I wonder if Kishi intended this connection

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/552/8

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/573/13

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/663/16

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:43 AM

@4Life
If that's gonna happen, its gonna be a disaster. Oh! Disaster is too small, its gonna be an apocalypse for all the Naruto readers and fandoms excluding SS who will be shocked because they themselves would not expect it. Me...if that happens, I'll leave this chaotic world for good in search of inner peace XD.

@Luffyq1 and @Tyraantx, you guys really have a good sense of humour XDDDD

I think I will be more shocked than to see a streak end after 21 years. It's...shocking. Lol. Though I think I will be utterly betrayed.

 

Not sure if I'm overthinking it but I wonder if Kishi intended this connection

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/552/8

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/573/13

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/663/16

I like to think as something may or may not be exposed very bluntly but if you connect them, you get the clue to everything.

 

Seriously, where the hell is Minato? I know when characters are absent, it's for a reason. So this must mean there is a reason. Though for the record, a reason can be from weak to strong, so don't think too highly. But yeah, so strange.



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:03 AM

Uhhhh quick question -_-......does Naruto and Sasuke even know that Obitos Rinnegan is actually Madaras?? Cause I don't recall either of these two been shared with that piece of information and the only one knows of it that's still conscious is Kakashi!?

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:07 AM

Uhhhh quick question -_-......does Naruto and Sasuke even know that Obitos Rinnegan is actually Madaras?? Cause I don't recall either of these two been shared with that piece of information and the only one knows of it that's still conscious is Kakashi!?

I think Naruto does when he realized that Madara wanted Obito being weakened for his rises.



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:40 AM

I think Naruto does when he realized that Madara wanted Obito being weakened for his rises.


You mean back when it was regular Madara vs all 9 tailed beasts or when Obito absorbed the Juubi?? O_o

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:41 AM

You mean back when it was regular Madara vs all 9 tailed beasts or when Obito absorbed the Juubi?? O_o

The former.



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:59 AM

The former.


But I thought naruto was only shocked and concerned about Obito because he used Rinne Rebirth technique which Naruto knows kills it's user after it's use.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:32 PM

While I loathe the idea, I don't think Sasuke saving Sakura is as impossible as some of you are making it seem. He is the only one in the area who's capable of going against Madara besides Obito, who is already struggling to control black zetsu. Obito might be able to push Sakura away, but they are doomed beyond that if no one comes. Kakashi had his eye taken out and Naruto is dealing with the fake.
 

Also Sakura is not going to die lol



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:55 PM

While I loathe the idea, I don't think Sasuke saving Sakura is as impossible as some of you are making it seem. He is the only one in the area who's capable of going against Madara besides Obito, who is already struggling to control black zetsu. Obito might be able to push Sakura away, but they are doomed beyond that if no one comes. Kakashi had his eye taken out and Naruto is dealing with the fake.
 

Also Sakura is not going to die lol

 

It's fine to speculate about Sasuke going to Kamui land, but a reasonable explanation about it should be give beyond him doing it just because people think he will. If that's the case I might as well say that Naruto will be the one to go.

 

Sasuke was pissed when Madara used Kamui which implies he can't follow him there, so there's already reason to believe that Sasuke won't be able to go there.

 

I think the next chapter could focus on Obito and Sakura trying to avoid Madara as much as they can, and Obito finding an opportunity to get Sakura out of there without Madara noticing since he could cancel Obito's kamui techniques.

 

Since Madara is only half the man he used to be that could give Obito and Sakura the opportunity to avoid being instantly killed.


Edited by redragon88, 24 April 2014 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:20 PM

 

It's fine to speculate about Sasuke going to Kamui land, but a reasonable explanation about it should be give beyond him doing it just because people think he will. If that's the case I might as well say that Naruto will be the one to go.

 

Sasuke was pissed when Madara used Kamui which implies he can't follow him there, so there's already reason to believe that Sasuke won't be able to go there.

 

I think the next chapter could focus on Obito and Sakura trying to avoid Madara as much as they can, and Obito finding an opportunity to get Sakura out of there without Madara noticing since he could cancel Obito's kamui techniques.

 

Since Madara is only half the man he used to be that could give Obito and Sakura the opportunity to avoid being instantly killed.

When the chapter ended the warp was depicted as still halfway open (we never saw it close and Madara was only halfway in) , and not only that but it wouldn't be hard for Kishi to give Sasuke the ability to follow Madara given the eye upgrade he just got.
 

Obito still needs Sakura to destroy or remove his eye, so it would be unwise to send her out at the moment. Madara would just be given the perfect opportunity to steal it. Someone needs to come to prevent that from happening.
 



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:33 PM

When the chapter ended the warp was depicted as still halfway open (we never saw it close and Madara was only halfway in) , and not only that but it wouldn't be hard for Kishi to give Sasuke the ability to follow Madara given the eye upgrade he just got.
 

Obito still needs Sakura to destroy or remove his eye, so it would be unwise to send her out at the moment. Madara would just be given the perfect opportunity to steal it. Someone needs to come to prevent that from happening.
 

 

But as I said, if Sasuke knew he could just go to Kamui land he wouldn't have been pissed at seeing Madara escape.

 

Also, the way Kamui works is that you either use it on yourself or on other people, it can't be done with both at the same time. That was the basis of the whole strategy that Kakashi used in order to allow for Naruto to unmask Tobi.



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:43 PM

 

But as I said, if Sasuke knew he could just go to Kamui land he wouldn't have been pissed at seeing Madara escape.

 

Also, the way Kamui works is that you either use it on yourself or on other people, it can't be done with both at the same time. That was the basis of the whole strategy that Kakashi used in order to allow for Naruto to unmask Tobi.

He evaded him-- that doesn't mean Sasuke can't follow, especially when he's so extremely fast that he can practically teleport. I'm sure his arrival would be explained on the premise of his upgrade.
 

It's a case of  convenience really. There is no one else to assist Obito and Sakura in this situation, and they are not in the state to defend themselves against Madara. Like I said Sakura can't be kamui'd out yet until she retrieves the eye. She will be unable to do it while being attacked.

 


Edited by AzureWaters, 24 April 2014 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:54 PM

He evaded him-- that doesn't mean Sasuke can't follow, especially when he's so extremely fast that he can practically teleport. I'm sure his arrival would be explained on the premise of his upgrade.
 

It's a case of  convenience really. There is no one else to assist Obito and Sakura in this situation, and they are not in the state to defend themselves against Madara. Like I said Sakura can't be kamui'd out yet until she retrieves the eye. She will be unable to do it while being attacked.

 

 

The reason Sasuke is pissed is because Madara is going somewhere beyond his reach. I don't think Sasuke is the type of guy to say "kitten" just because someone evaded his attack.

 

If it's just a matter of convenience I could say that it would be Naruto going there and that an explanation could be given later on.

 

I'm not saying you shouldn't think it's Sasuke, but the fact remains that there's no implication that Sasuke could follow. Maybe it could turn out like you say, but right now that's just believing it would happen for the sake of believing in it, not because there's any evidence to indicate Sasuke could do it.

 

And take into consideration that only half of Madara's body went there, so that could give Obito and Sakura the necessary handicap in order to make an escape.



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 02:24 PM

To me SS has been dead since chapter 3 ever since Sasuke called Sakura annoying. So I have nothing to worry about. SS is like a corpse that Kishi keeps stabbing when its been dead for so long.

 

You know, I was thinking about something after looking at some fan art picturing NaruHina and SasuSaku...

Sakura's love for Sasuke was the ONLY one to be different from other loves from the start, because she wasn't alone to love him.

All the girls were loving him because he was cool.

Sakura's love was the ONLY one which wasn't serious in the beginning.

I know she was really into it, but to me, it was just a young girl weakness.

I've been just like this, and when I think about it now, I would never want to be with the guys I fell in "love" when I was young because they were "cool".

 

Sakura's "love" for Sasuke was bound to change from the start.

 

On the contrary, Naruto's love for her is really deep and strong since the beginning. This is pure dedication. Where Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were driven by despair IMO. She wanted to be acknowledged by him. This is not love. She was suffering from a lack of self esteem, and wanted acknowledgement from the alpha cool male. This is just like Hinata's feelings for Naruto: self esteem issue, and she wanted to be acknowledged by Naruto too. Well she has been. This helped her to stand for herself in battle. And she's now friendzoned.

 

Well Sakura is much more stronger than Hinata, because she elevated herself above all this without Sasuke's acknowledgement. Naruto has something to do with it also.

 

Naruto's love for Sakura is the more touching love in all of this manga. He has been so selfless, so dedicated... and even when he was so young he has been so sensitive, dealing with it. Really, I would do anything to have a man like this in my life.

 

Naruto will never love anyone else.

 

It's not even possible.

It will always be Sakura, or else it would crush his character.

 

Some people claims his feeling are changing for Hinata. I disagree so much with this. He has NO PROBLEM AT ALL to address to Hinata and talk with her about deep things. To me, this is proof he has NO ROMANTIC FEELINGS for her.

Remember how it's hard for him to address to Sakura about deep things, about his feeling for her ? He even not authorise himself to talk to her about it. He never told her the truth about the bench scene, he never sold himself to her, never forced her to love him. All this is because he has so strong feelings for her that it's difficult for him to talk about.

 

He will never answer positively to Hinata's love for him, and I think she knows that pretty well, because she smiled at his hug with Sakura. Also, he already responded to her about what she did in the Pain arc IMO. When he told her she was strong and all, while thinking about it. And that was it. He acknowledged her. This is what she always wanted. This will never go further.

 

Sakura, on the other hand, it's more difficult for him, because strong feelings are involved.


Edited by Otaru, 24 April 2014 - 04:01 PM.

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