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#1721 pinkheartsyellowstars

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Aug 7 2009, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this not a valid argument it is opinion. their are many who find Sakura to be more attractive the Hinata



This also is an invalid argument as Hinata did not force Naruto into Kyuubi for. Pein did with his actions towards konoha and others that were precious to naruto.



This argument is valid from the point of view of a Shonen manga. too bad for the debater though that Hinata has never ""Karate chopped "" Naruto. Sakura on the other hand has several times and thus this argument supports NaruSaku.



This argument is also valid to an extent, but if that is the case then again we find this argument to support NaruSaku as Narutos feelings for Sakura have only stayed for much longer then 283+ chapters.



Yamato does not have to be a love doctor nor does he claim to e. he is an Shinobu trained in the art of observation and capable of doing what any Lay person can do which is observe the care and feelings Sakura has for Naruto. which was the point of the entire scene.



This is not a valid argument it is an opinion, and worse an irrelevant opinion as The author of the manga knows full well what he wants to happen in the story.



This argument is also invalid as when Sai asks Naruto about his feelings the only person front and center in his flashback is Sakura. Hinata does not show up again untill much later and only as a side character.



This argument is mostly invalid as filler episodes are not canon and therefore have no valid effect on the manga. Filler episodes are used primarilly to"fill in" small gaps left in the manga translation to the anime and can only be taken with a measure of salt.



Hence logically Hinatas feelings are friendship not love then by this argument. to whit Hinata charged towards Pein (a super chakra enhanced monster who had nearly destroyed Konoha) out of feelings of friendship



There is no evidence to support this thus the argument is invalidated. Similarly with the exception of Hinatas direct confession there is no evidence to support Hinatas feelings as being anything more then a spur of the moment thing brought on by the stress of the situation or a mild crush.

Sakuras admission about Naruto and his admission to loving her is backed up by 450+ chapters of manga devlopment, and actions.

hence by the logic of this argument Hinatas confession comes off more as "The red herring" in this scenario then Narutos confession to Sai.

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Wow.. Its really CLEAR that Kishi is developing NaruSaku since Part 1 and will be further developed in upcoming chapters.. The NH community gave reasons that well kinda spoiled the pairing dry.gif

Anyways, in my own opinion Kishi already destroyed the other pairings when the chapter 450 was released... it is quite clear that NaruSaku will definitely will happen biggrin.gif unless he will changed again or twist it..

QUOTE (KittenLou @ Aug 7 2009, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ROFL

Now, are you absolutely certain] you didn't find this list somewhere the Anti-naruhina fanclub on narutofan??? Because it certainly seems to me that it might just be sarcastic enough to have been posted by one of its members.

I don't think that list should be taken seriously, I think it's intended to just make a mockery of the less than well-thought out arguments used for the pairing that is naruhina.


I found it on Naruto Fan when i was searching some topics about the new Naruto Shippuden Movie 3 and I accidentally clicked the link.. sorry i forgot what the topic's title shamefulcry0js.gif I should had provided the link..
And yeah I agree the list is not that seriously and it is kinda in a rush to make because maybe they are scared for what is happening a_shifty.gif

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 08 August 2009 - 11:44 AM.


#1722 Lazy-Genius

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 05:40 PM

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Kishi is making it sound as if Naruto likes Sakura... which is absolutely bogus... I mean,he loves her, but as a friend...


facepalm.png I'm sorry, but you can not haz sense.


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considering the countless NaruHina hints in the manga and Anime Team's biasness toward NaruHina (and fandom)... I have little doubt that NaruSaku will happen (FYI: I'm not saying that i hate the pairing, it's just that it doesn't seem logical).


Countless? More like.....ten. Basically, they just for themselves that NaruHina's support is completely fan based......

Edited by Lazy-Genius, 08 August 2009 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 08 August 2009 - 05:51 PM

I laugh every time I hear someone say that NaruHina is the more logical choice..
...maybe in your own twisted logic it makes sense because that's what you *want* to see...

But in a literary sense, which is the only way a manga can be interpreted realistically, the hero is going to get the girl he has devoted himself to.

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Kishi is making it sound as if Naruto likes Sakura... which is absolutely bogus... I mean,he loves her, but as a friend...

Really? Apparently, this person knows more about Naruto than his own author.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 06:20 PM

^Lord, don't get me started. I've gone up and down that road in debates before, and when it comes down to it, people will see what they want to see (us included). NaruHina's logic doesn't fly in my mind because it doesn't work that way in a literary sense, and the sheer fact that details get skimmed and even hurled out the window.

It's exactly like that last part, come on. Last I checked, Kishimoto made Naruto, not you, buddy. Naruto has clearly stated that he loves Sakura more than once. You don't repeat things if they aren't important. Oh wait, that's right, that logic is only allowed to apply to Hinata. Sakura has been showing signs of having feelings towards Naruto for years now (out of universe, of course, in universe, it's been around 6 months), the constant development that Kishi has been giving compared with the lack thereof of anyone else should clue you in on what he's up to.

I swear, what is the reading comprehension level of some of these people? The thing that drives me insane is that people act like Kishimoto always planed NaruHina and SasuSaku and that NaruSaku is changing the plans, and therefor terrible. Neither of them had ANYTHING going for them, and Naruto's crush on Sakura was presented first, not Sakura's crush on Sasuke. That alone is significant. I am a fan of the Naruto story first, then NaruSaku. If it happens to be part of the story Kishimoto intends and always intended to tell, awesome, but it doesn't mean that I will hate the story if it doesn't happen because of another choice (assuming it's done correctly, of course.). That's how it's supposed to be, not the other way around.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 07:39 PM

You know.... I just realized something. A love confession would get attention, now matter how random it may seem. Naruto doesn't remember it I think. You know, like how he didn't remember a little bit before he became four-tailed last time? But maybe I'm over thinking. This doesn't mean I support NaruHina though... just a random thought.
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Ever heard of personality balance? Hinata's shy,
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Naruto and Sakura are to similar and it would cause a personality clash. How
do I know this? Cause I have experience with it. Even if Naruto doesn't return
her feelings immediately, he would give her a chance


I get really tired of arguments like these... Opposites attract, right? Well, there is one opposite that most every (Straight) couples have... one's a guy one's a girl. Opposites, right? Ugh, opposites attract is not always right. If you wanna go with the most obviously example of brash with brash, Inuyasha and Kagome. That's however, only counting their most readily shown emotions. If dealing with Shounen, use shounen logic, and examples right? I even know a few couples where they're a lot alike and they still work out. This argument just irritates me....
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 08:16 PM

Everyone says opposites attract, but then they say that you'll be attracted to someone you have a lot in common with.....I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of the two. Like in Rourouni Kenshin, Kenshin and Kaoru have their differences, but they are by no means opposites, and still, that pairing has a really great development behind it (like Narusaku).

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 08:31 PM

They attract but don't wear well... that is the full saying, right? So, one of their biggest reasons is for half of a cliche saying? Also, even funnier since they say NS is cliche.. it may be, but if you are going to call it that, don't then use the opposites attract argument.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Aug 8 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah My friend got flamed on a Ff account she wont's help.. Narusaku1357 is a member here as well.


Let's not go on Fanfiction.net just to start a war. It MIGHT get this topic closed, hmm? sleep.gif

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 10:22 PM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Aug 8 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's not go on Fanfiction.net just to start a war. It MIGHT get this topic closed, hmm? sleep.gif


Not might, it will get this thread closed.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 01:29 AM

QUOTE (Lazy-Genius @ Aug 8 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everyone says opposites attract, but then they say that you'll be attracted to someone you have a lot in common with.....I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of the two. Like in Rourouni Kenshin, Kenshin and Kaoru have their differences, but they are by no means opposites, and still, that pairing has a really great development behind it (like Narusaku).


Yeah, I agree about there has to be an in between.
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Posted 09 August 2009 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Aug 7 2009, 06:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys.. I was searching some topic on naruto forums and i found out this: (its kinda disturbing)
Top ten Reasons why NaruHina will happen and not NaruSaku
10. Hinata is better looking than Sakura.

9. Hinata forcing Naruto into Kyuubi form (read: anger/hatred induced beast) only shows that they love each other.

8. Karate chops are a sign of love.

7. Feelings remain despite 283 chapters of being left out of the story.

6. Because Yamato is NOT a love doctor. (But apparantly NaruHina fans are).

5. Because it is meant to happen even if Kishi doesn't want it to.

4. Because in the latest manga, when Sai asks about his feelings for Sakura, he immediately thinks about Hinata.

3. It happens in the Fillers (anime).

2. Because charging in toward Naruto, while he was transformed into a super chakkra filled beast that nearly destroyed all of Konoha, trying to bring him back is merely a sign of friendship.

And the number one reason why NaruHina will happen and not NaruSaku.......

Naruto admiting his feelings for Sakura to Sai is all a RED HERRING!!!!!

I dont know what is Red Herring? they are really disturbing dry.gif


after reading this, im so sure that narusaku is going to happen. not to be mean or anything, but these reasons can be easily debated and fillers are fake, its mostly the manga that counts. i mean, "Hinata is better looking than Sakura"????? really, a lot of people think that sakura is better looking than hinata.......................

hehehehehe, sorry, got carried away sweatdrop.gif but sometimes, i cannot understand some peoples reasoning............ facepalm.png

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 01:34 AM

^lol, mostly, it doesn't count at all because Masashi Kishimoto wasn't involved whatsoever. Unless Kishi states all filler is cannon, then the fillers matter not. Oh, and even if they did, then looks like NaruSaku gets more moments thanks to Shippuden XD.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 03:05 AM

yeah, ur right. narusaku do have a lot of moments in shippuuden, but those reasons make me fustrated 111193.gif

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 03:48 AM

Those Ten Reasons convince me that they are INVALID, as well their point. As said before, they are quite fan-based. sleep.gif

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku93 @ Aug 8 2009, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after reading this, im so sure that narusaku is going to happen. not to be mean or anything, but these reasons can be easily debated and fillers are fake, its mostly the manga that counts. i mean, "Hinata is better looking than Sakura"????? really, a lot of people think that sakura is better looking than hinata.......................

hehehehehe, sorry, got carried away sweatdrop.gif but sometimes, i cannot understand some peoples reasoning............ facepalm.png


I'd respond to that list, but it's really not worth the effort. I don't think even most serious NaruHina fans would cite reasons like that.

But, I must say that its rather convenient that NaruSaku is a read hearing. Funny how that works out, don't ya think?

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 05:59 PM

meh no need to respond to the list at all. i responded and all arguments have been refuted nicely.
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Posted 09 August 2009 - 07:42 PM

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF! facepalm.png

that list was just reassuring narusaku to me

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 08:19 PM

considering that 3 of the 10 arguments directly support NaruSaku this is no surprise. the other arguments were either opinions or easilly refuted due to lack of base evidence to support them
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Posted 09 August 2009 - 09:59 PM

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 11:32 PM

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6. Because Yamato is NOT a love doctor. (But apparantly NaruHina fans are).
2. Because charging in toward Naruto, while he was transformed into a super chakkra filled beast that nearly destroyed all of Konoha, trying to bring him back is merely a sign of friendship.


These two make me me think that it was an anti-NaruHina person who wrote it....it's kinda funny that our sarcasm is hard to differentiate from their "support" sweatdrop.gif




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