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[Don-kun]

Well because previous movie was after naruto fought pain I think this is surely after karui and other 2 ninjas asked sakura what sasuke is to her. So i think it will really be a movie where sakura knows how naruto feels about her but nothing can be said for sure. as for making sasuke OOC I think it was necessary because if he would have given the same sasuke then he would have kind of shown us how his manga will end wouldn't he.

I am just saying if she is shown to like sasuke in this movie it will tell me two things

1) she just like Sasuke because of his looks
2) She doesn't deserve o be with Naruto

If she is shown to think that the sasuke is different and she wants the old sasuke it will mean

1) Sakura still loves sasuke for who he is
2) again she doesn't deserve to be with Naruto at all and Naruto shouldn't hold any selfless feelings for her

If she is shown to have feelings for Naruto and try to run away from this sasuke and also somehow doesn't try remembering the real sasuke(this point I believe has very less chances to happen considering how sakura's feelings have been uptil now) it will show

1) that she has for sure developed romantic feelings for Naruto
2) She deserves Naruto as much as any other person does.

1) Love is not about who deserves who or in other words X character deserves or doesn't deserve Y character.
2) Kishi might hint his taste, or maybe he might just have Sakura ignore this Sasuke and help Naruto that in the end will not imply anything who knows.

I think this movie may be about Humor, Naruto family, Tobi and Sakura resolve.

Who knows maybe Kishi is really tired of the Sakura bashing so he created this perfect world for her and Naruto.

Lets see, the sumary focus and the fact that Naruto knows everything in this world is not real, but it will be hard for him to let go the idea of being with his pereent for the 1st time. Meaning that Naruto will be more afected and more emotionally attached to this world.

On the other hand we have Sakura, The Village hero, wealthy family and her father is the Hokage, she he's respected by everyone and more importantly Sasuke wants to be with her.
Meaning that Sakura side is more superficial, but if we have Sakura ignoring her current status, her parents' status because she already knows who they are and Sasuke the Sasuke she always dream about so she could focus on on what really matters, helping Naruto and herself escape from the world will be a Big Big Plus for her Character. May also help her character status in the readers and viewers eyes.

I know it may look like a stretch, but why else Kishi will keep her in character and change her life so drastically for the better.

My other point is that Kishi will not hook up Sakura or Naruto with any of thier AU friends maybe a hint for the end pairing but nothing else. At the end of this movie you can guarantee that Naruto and Sakura will be tenderly smiling at each otherater they free themself from the Genjutsu world .

Edited by NS means logic, 26 June 2012 - 09:30 PM.

[ninja_salamander]

If this "deserving" thing were to be applied to everything, then Naruto doesn't deserve to have Sakura because man, he's way too selfless and he's almost willing to give her up to another guy. Hinata doesn't deserve Naruto because she's been too shy to try and have a normal relationship with him. Sai doesn't deserve anyone because he's too blunt. Lee doesn't deserve his hair style because Gai style is a curse. Etc. Etc.

This is very funny and totally lie. As I see things Naruto is not ready to give up on loving sakura but he can't also force her to love him. I think Naruto deserves nearly any girl he likes because he devotes himself fully to whom he loves and cares for. I don't think the thing u said above makes sense at all. U have pointed out things which are way to ridiculous for telling who deserves whom.

The real thing when Naruto should be said to not deserve sakura is if Naruto behaves like sasuke or he shows romantic feelings towards any other girl than sakura.

Sakura's relationship with Naruto has nothing to do with Sasuke.

Sakura's friendly relationship definitely doesn't have to do anything with Naruto but according to me her romantic feelings does depend on how she feels towards sasuke. I mean if she loves both of them and in the end sasuke dies somehow and then she decides to be with Naruto, I will be happy because NS happened somehow but very sad also because I will always think and believe that sakura may not have picked up Naruto if sasuke wouldn't have died.




Guys I hope u won't think of me as an enemy of NS if I am putting some points which are CONS according to me in NS. Their are definitely many PROS of NS also, but I generally see all the PROS come from Naruto whereas all CONS until now have come from Sakura in my mind.

[Paptala]

This is very funny and totally lie. As I see things Naruto is not ready to give up on loving sakura but he can't also force her to love him. I think Naruto deserves nearly any girl he likes because he devotes himself fully to whom he loves and cares for. I don't think the thing u said above makes sense at all. U have pointed out things which are way to ridiculous for telling who deserves whom.

The real thing when Naruto should be said to not deserve sakura is if Naruto behaves like sasuke or he shows romantic feelings towards any other girl than sakura.



Sakura's friendly relationship definitely doesn't have to do anything with Naruto but according to me her romantic feelings does depend on how she feels towards sasuke. I mean if she loves both of them and in the end sasuke dies somehow and then she decides to be with Naruto, I will be happy because NS happened somehow but very sad also because I will always think and believe that sakura may not have picked up Naruto if sasuke wouldn't have died.




Guys I hope u won't think of me as an enemy of NS if I am putting some points which are CONS according to me in NS. Their are definitely many PROS of NS also, but I generally see all the PROS come from Naruto whereas all CONS until now have come from Sakura in my mind.

Just wondering how you figure lingering feelings for Sasuke from Sakura's end means that doesn't "deserve" Naruto, when she has consistently been prioritizing Naruto over Sasuke since the hospital scene after VOTE (occasionally before as well, such as in the written test portion of the chuunin exams), and she has been a near constant presence at his side in part II (which Naruto stated made him happy).

I understand that you're trying to look at the pairing critically, which is fine, but this particular issue about "deserving" really isn't one of NaruSaku's problems. If you want to talk about issues, then address the fact that Naruto and Sakura tend to keep things to themselves in order to protect the other, but it simply ends up leading to misunderstandings and hurt regardless. They need an honest conversation, nothing held back. They should talk about how each of them feel, including discussing Sakura's confession at the summit (because they were both too frustrated and high strung from the pressing issue with Sasuke to really be able to have a decent conversation [imo]).

Edited by Paptala, 27 June 2012 - 01:49 PM.

[kirabook]

This is very funny and totally lie. As I see things Naruto is not ready to give up on loving sakura but he can't also force her to love him. I think Naruto deserves nearly any girl he likes because he devotes himself fully to whom he loves and cares for. I don't think the thing u said above makes sense at all. U have pointed out things which are way to ridiculous for telling who deserves whom.

The real thing when Naruto should be said to not deserve sakura is if Naruto behaves like sasuke or he shows romantic feelings towards any other girl than sakura.



Sakura's friendly relationship definitely doesn't have to do anything with Naruto but according to me her romantic feelings does depend on how she feels towards sasuke. I mean if she loves both of them and in the end sasuke dies somehow and then she decides to be with Naruto, I will be happy because NS happened somehow but very sad also because I will always think and believe that sakura may not have picked up Naruto if sasuke wouldn't have died.




Guys I hope u won't think of me as an enemy of NS if I am putting some points which are CONS according to me in NS. Their are definitely many PROS of NS also, but I generally see all the PROS come from Naruto whereas all CONS until now have come from Sakura in my mind.

Not only was most of that ending heavy sarcasm, but you missed the point. Relationships don't involve who deserves who as I said before. No one deserves anyone else. A relationship is something that is built and mutual. Naruto doesn't deserve Sakura, If we really look at it, they've "earned" each other because they worked for it. Not because it was handed to them or taken for granted.

Sasuke doesn't need to die for her to decide whether she wants to be with Naruto or not. She's already decided who means more to her the moment she decided to confess to Naruto and attempt to make him give up on Sasuke and the burden then going to kill Sasuke herself just to relieve Naruto even If he hated her for eternity.

Sasuke can be as he is now or even "good" and I believe Sakura will still choose Naruto in the end. not because she can't have sasuke, but because Naruto matters more

[kidNinja]

Guys I hope u won't think of me as an enemy of NS if I am putting some points which are CONS according to me in NS. Their are definitely many PROS of NS also, but I generally see all the PROS come from Naruto whereas all CONS until now have come from Sakura in my mind.

Not at all, your view is very understandable. IF and I mean IF Sakura does in fact pick Sasuke over Naruto, I will truly be speechless.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

u talk about CONS but if sakura pick sasuke that will be CONS for her too, like her development going to trash and her with someome that does not truly love her, the good thing of NS is that sakura has feelings for naruto and the relationship will not be one-sided.

sasuke give so many proofs that he does not love her, he chose his selfish desire instead of her and tried to kill her many times i cant see any romantic stuff between the two.

[MangaReader]

A forum I belong to thinks that Tsunade x Dan proves NaruSaku is dead... All I could say was I'd lol when NaruSaku is the canon ending for the manga XD

[kirabook]

Why is that? Because people relate Dan to Sasuke I presume?

To my knowledge, Dan did nother defect from his village, tried to kill the person who loved him, and he actually loved the person who loved him back. You know, a real relationship. XD

[ninja_salamander]

Not only was most of that ending heavy sarcasm, but you missed the point. Relationships don't involve who deserves who as I said before. No one deserves anyone else. A relationship is something that is built and mutual. Naruto doesn't deserve Sakura, If we really look at it, they've "earned" each other because they worked for it. Not because it was handed to them or taken for granted.

Sasuke doesn't need to die for her to decide whether she wants to be with Naruto or not. She's already decided who means more to her the moment she decided to confess to Naruto and attempt to make him give up on Sasuke and the burden then going to kill Sasuke herself just to relieve Naruto even If he hated her for eternity.

Sasuke can be as he is now or even "good" and I believe Sakura will still choose Naruto in the end. not because she can't have sasuke, but because Naruto matters more

First of all, I didn't put any sarcasm in my post

second thing if u talk about that sakura has already chosen Naruto, I definitely can't agree with that. If I am right she just confessed because she was not able to find any other excuse for letting naruto go the will to bring sasuke back. Those chapters where sakura confessed are really confusing to me because sometimes it looked like she was telling truth sometimes it looked like it was just an excuse.

Also when sai explained once he said

to protect sasuke from getting more evil sakura chose to kill him and she was also ready for Naruto to hate her and then on very next line I think, he said this was her way for atoning for the burden she made Naruto carry.

I don't know what to think about those 3-4 chapters kishi made, I was having a feeling that kishi himself doesn't know what to do about the romantic stuff in those chapters.

[MangaReader]

Why is that? Because people relate Dan to Sasuke I presume?

To my knowledge, Dan did nother defect from his village, tried to kill the person who loved him, and he actually loved the person who loved him back. You know, a real relationship. XD

Maybe, but this seems to have caused a stir in people remembering Sakura's confession, which they still consider false. Heck even though Kishi already explained it wasn't, people can not force themselves to blush unless the really feel something. If she didn't feel anything at all for Naruto, then she could have looked him in the eye and flat out told him she loved him (which would have been a lie)

Edited by MangaReader, 27 June 2012 - 07:17 PM.

[kirabook]

First of all, I didn't put any sarcasm in my post

second thing if u talk about that sakura has already chosen Naruto, I definitely can't agree with that. If I am right she just confessed because she was not able to find any other excuse for letting naruto go the will to bring sasuke back. Those chapters where sakura confessed are really confusing to me because sometimes it looked like she was telling truth sometimes it looked like it was just an excuse.

Also when sai explained once he said

to protect sasuke from getting more evil sakura chose to kill him and she was also ready for Naruto to hate her and then on very next line I think, he said this was her way for atoning for the burden she made Naruto carry.

I don't know what to think about those 3-4 chapters kishi made, I was having a feeling that kishi himself doesn't know what to do about the romantic stuff in those chapters.

I'm saying that the particular part where you quoted me was heavy sarcasm. XD It was not meant to be taken seriously, which is why I put in there that Lee was cursed with Gai's hairstyle. *sigh*

I do believe Sakura has chosen Naruto over Sasuke. Not consciously and not officially by word, but action speaks louder than words. What most NS fans want is an official proclamation, but she's already thinking that way with her mind and body. She'd rather Naruto be safe and alive than Sasuke. How else can you say "I choose you!" any clearer?

She may have had the goal to "save" Sasuke from sinking into darkness, but that was only plan B if she managed to "save" Naruto from his burden. If she really wanted to, she could have just skipped Naruto and went to go kill Sasuke immediately, but no. She kept it all secret, went to Naruto first with the intentions of returning home with him and dealing with Sasuke at a later date. She prioritized Naruto over Sasuke on her to do list.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

First of all, I didn't put any sarcasm in my post

second thing if u talk about that sakura has already chosen Naruto, I definitely can't agree with that. If I am right she just confessed because she was not able to find any other excuse for letting naruto go the will to bring sasuke back. Those chapters where sakura confessed are really confusing to me because sometimes it looked like she was telling truth sometimes it looked like it was just an excuse.

Also when sai explained once he said

to protect sasuke from getting more evil sakura chose to kill him and she was also ready for Naruto to hate her and then on very next line I think, he said this was her way for atoning for the burden she made Naruto carry.

I don't know what to think about those 3-4 chapters kishi made, I was having a feeling that kishi himself doesn't know what to do about the romantic stuff in those chapters.

Which I think Sakura forfeit any right to ask Sasuke out without paying the price.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

A forum I belong to thinks that Tsunade x Dan proves NaruSaku is dead... All I could say was I'd lol when NaruSaku is the canon ending for the manga XD

Dan = Sasuke lol,
Dan inherited the will of fire like naruto and a lot of people.

and 2 the dan's dream was to become a hokage someday.

Edited by dovahkiin, 27 June 2012 - 09:10 PM.

[redragon88]

A forum I belong to thinks that Tsunade x Dan proves NaruSaku is dead... All I could say was I'd lol when NaruSaku is the canon ending for the manga XD

Why are people forgetting chapter 380? Anyone who says that Tsunade will always only love Dan seems to just ignore that chapter.

That was the moment when Tsunade finally decided that she would open her heart to Jiraiya, which she wasn't able to before because Dan's death caused her to close her heart to anyone. It makes Jiraiya's death even more tragic since he mentioned as he died that one of his regrets was never winning Tsunade's love and unfortunately he died without realizing he finally did.

Dan will always be important to Tsunade because of what they shared in the past, but as of chapter 380 she gave her heart to Jiraiya.

Edited by redragon88, 27 June 2012 - 10:36 PM.

[Nate River]

Why is that? Because people relate Dan to Sasuke I presume?

To my knowledge, Dan did nother defect from his village, tried to kill the person who loved him, and he actually loved the person who loved him back. You know, a real relationship. XD

Tsunade's parallel is Sakura. Jiriaya's is Naruto, so I suppose the thinking is that Sasuke is a (partial) one to Dan at least in the sense that she still loves Dan and not the Naruto parallel. Don't know why this mean death to NS and all, but it seems to be a counter argument to the NS parallel argument.

Of course, that misses several key components.

(1) The argument views the Jiriaya-Tsunade relationship as a failure. The generation parallel is not a straight one and the argument incorporates the major theme of surpassing the older generation that has been all over Part 2.. Naruto is supposed to succeed where Jiriaya failed. He did with Pain and is expected (by us) to do the same with Sakura. Tsunade/Jiriaya is a failed romance and has been viewed as such by NS fans for a long time.

(2) Dan and Sasuke are terrible parallel's. Naruto reminds her of Dan. They shared the same dream.

(3) Sasuke's parallel is Orochimaru.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

A forum I belong to thinks that Tsunade x Dan proves NaruSaku is dead... All I could say was I'd lol when NaruSaku is the canon ending for the manga XD

Comparing Dan and Sasuke's character because NS may be dead? Just because Dan was Tsunade's first lover, it doesn't mean SS will become canon. Look at Dan's goals. He wanted to be Hokage, protect the village and past down the Will of Fire. How does this imply to Sasuke? No, it fits Naruto's description more than it ever does with Sasuke.

Although, go ahead jump ships. We have plenty of NS faithful here.

[Paptala]

Tsunade's parallel is Sakura. Jiriaya's is Naruto, so I suppose the thinking is that Sasuke is a (partial) one to Dan at least in the sense that she still loves Dan and not the Naruto parallel. Don't know why this mean death to NS and all, but it seems to be a counter argument to the NS parallel argument.

Of course, that misses several key components.

(1) The argument views the Jiriaya-Tsunade relationship as a failure. The generation parallel is not a straight one and the argument incorporates the major theme of surpassing the older generation that has been all over Part 2.. Naruto is supposed to succeed where Jiriaya failed. He did with Pain and is expected (by us) to do the same with Sakura. Tsunade/Jiriaya is a failed romance and has been viewed as such by NS fans for a long time.

(2) Dan and Sasuke are terrible parallel's. Naruto reminds her of Dan. They shared the same dream.

(3) Sasuke's parallel is Orochimaru.

Exactly this - the whole point is that where JiraTsu failed, Naruto with Sakura is supposed to succeed. People crowing that the DanTsu moment killed NS clearly don't understand the parallel and the theme that goes with it (newer generation surpassing the old) to begin with.

Edited by Paptala, 27 June 2012 - 11:05 PM.

[Don-kun]

Sasuke's parallel is Orochimaru, just has how Nate stated, you really need to be blind to not see that.
If anyone try to use that parallel for SS, just ask them who Tsunade admited that by looking at him he reminds her of Dan and Nawaki, Perhaps Kishi already knew the argument could be used to compare Sasuke so he make sure and point that out.

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Nawaki was even made a clone of Naruto.

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Edited by NS means logic, 27 June 2012 - 11:12 PM.

[MangaReader]

Most of them are Sakura haters over there, so I didn't really expect much from them, but hey, all I could argue was that they're wrong about Sakura's confession, as they feel that was her turning point of becoming a tease :/

Edited by MangaReader, 28 June 2012 - 01:15 AM.

[ichaichamaster]

Tsunade's parallel is Sakura. Jiriaya's is Naruto, so I suppose the thinking is that Sasuke is a (partial) one to Dan at least in the sense that she still loves Dan and not the Naruto parallel. Don't know why this mean death to NS and all, but it seems to be a counter argument to the NS parallel argument.

Of course, that misses several key components.

(1) The argument views the Jiriaya-Tsunade relationship as a failure. The generation parallel is not a straight one and the argument incorporates the major theme of surpassing the older generation that has been all over Part 2.. Naruto is supposed to succeed where Jiriaya failed. He did with Pain and is expected (by us) to do the same with Sakura. Tsunade/Jiriaya is a failed romance and has been viewed as such by NS fans for a long time.

(2) Dan and Sasuke are terrible parallel's. Naruto reminds her of Dan. They shared the same dream.

(3) Sasuke's parallel is Orochimaru.

I guess the point of dan and this whole scene is that if sasuke was good, he would be like dan and he and sakura(who is like tsunade) could have been in a relationship and then broke up because sakura would choose always naruto, like tsunade choose jiraya in the end. So much drama....