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[tricksie]

So in the end, as a former fan of the series, this movie only works on yes men. I don't follow like that. I said it before, if it's crap, I will acknowledge it, even from my favorite. And this is crap.

 

My theory is that they tried to appeal to girls as well and insert Hinata as someone whom Japanese girls could identify with. She's pretty in a very traditional Japanese way, and her manners are so meek that she couldn't offend anyone. 

 

Sakura doesn't look like anyone except herself, and her character has no problem making ripples. Only some girls would identify with her, and only some guys would be into her.

 

I think they went with Hinata to seize a bigger chunk of the audience, sell more movie tickets, more cds and more merchandise.

 

Who's going to see a ninja-romance movie? Girls.

 

Who's going to by a cd of love songs? Girls.

 

Who's going to buy a calendar or an alarm clock or a keychain? Girls.

 

Hinata has actually replaced Naruto in terms of the marketing importance in this movie. It's about Hinata, and the sales are geared to girls. It's bet they're banking on it being a date-night movie.

 

I think it has nothing to do with what's come before in the manga. Only what they've decided will sell the best going forward.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Wait that mean from chapter 3, all of this is just a lie?
Wow this is even worse than tobi identity. The problem identity is timeline.
But this is even worse.

It's not worse. It's the worst. It's not even about pairing, it's just writing. It's beyond terrible. Tobi's aspect is addressed within the manga, so that's being written as a misled. Naruto and Sakura's relationship was never written as misled. No one said, "Hey, Naruto. She's not good for you," or anything. Major difference. Will I ever do that to you in my story? kitten no! That's absurd. This is so bad.

[trang95]

Forever in my case
I'll be on my deathbed, passing this curse of hate onto my grand-kids.

 

Dude be careful, or otherwise your grandchild will become enemies with her NH and SS friends.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Naruto and Sakura's relationship was never written as misled. No one said, "Hey, Naruto. She's not good for you," or anything.

It always was the opposite 

[TouKen4Life3g]

It always was the opposite 

Nobody made it bad. Nobody! If anything, it was Sakura and Sasuke. This series...Please, GameStop. I don't care you give me a dime, just take these Naruto's games away from me.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

Dude be careful, or otherwise your grandchild will become enemies with her NH and SS friends.

Good    She'll become the Naruto--> Obito of her generation and bring them a calamity beyond imagination~
THIS LADY DON'T RAISE WEENIES. 

 (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Or in gif form; 

[Nefertieh]

Does this man wish to piss all the NaruSaku fans off? What the he'll did we ever do to deserve this?! (〒︿〒)

 

It seems like he's acknowledging the development was there, but trying to justify NH at the same time. By lying.

 

And he's doing a terrible job.

[harry4e]

 

If NH needs more explanation (and, heck, SS, too), why not spend some of those 700 chapters developing them instead of taunting and trolling fans with NS?

 

Because he felt he'd sell more Manga volumes misleading than actually developing? I don't know, I just don't want to believe this interview to be true.

 

http://ladygt.tumblr...-pulled-a-kishi

 

LadyGT would sum up my feelings perfectly with that post if this interview is true.

[Elicit]

Wtf son but it's not the same girl.

[tricksie]

The four or five sentences of translation seem too perfectly tailored to be anti-NS. And thus far, Kishimoto has been fairly tight-lipped about the NS action in the manga, as if trying to distance himself from admitting that the movie's some kind of retcon (which we know it is). So to come out with an interview that's very specific and negative towards one fandom — and before the movie comes out, no less – just doesn't make any sense.

 

I'll wait to see a verified translation of the entire interview. Not just a copy-and-paste 4-line summary.

[Derock]

Hmmm... something is amiss but I still getting that train wreck!

 

C'mon, train! I wanna see it go BOOM!!

[Lady Lys]

Forever in my case
I'll be on my deathbed, passing this curse of hate onto my grand-kids.

 

DITTO.     

[harry4e]

 

My theory is that they tried to appeal to girls as well and insert Hinata as someone whom Japanese girls could identify with. She's pretty in a very traditional Japanese way, and her manners are so meek that she couldn't offend anyone. 

 

Sakura doesn't look like anyone except herself, and her character has no problem making ripples. Only some girls would identify with her, and only some guys would be into her.

 

I think they went with Hinata to seize a bigger chunk of the audience, sell more movie tickets, more cds and more merchandise.

 

Who's going to see a ninja-romance movie? Girls.

 

Who's going to by a cd of love songs? Girls.

 

Who's going to buy a calendar or an alarm clock or a keychain? Girls.

 

Hinata has actually replaced Naruto in terms of the marketing importance in this movie. It's about Hinata, and the sales are geared to girls. It's bet they're banking on it being a date-night movie.

 

I think it has nothing to do with what's come before in the manga. Only what they've decided will sell the best going forward.

 

 

If they wanted to appeal to girls, then why not make Sakura the lead? She's the one female in the manga most regular girls can relate to, she's not the classic big breasted, 2D woman we see in Shounon Manga, Sakura was a classic example of a strog Shojo type heroine, she looks allot more like the typical Shojo heroine, her beauty is based on reality, she isn't made to ook perfect, she doesn't have big breasts, and perfect features, she is awkward, has issues with her forehead. Her personailty is the closest a girl could relate to, every girl has a first crush, one that doesn't pay them attention, they hope to find a love that makes them the centre of their world, would move a mountain for them to see them smile.

 

If Kishi wanted to make a Shojo movie he should have picked a Shojo heroine, someone the girls could relate to...maybe we should do a poll, we must have plenty of female fans of the series here right?

 

Which charactor can the relate to more, Hinata or Sakura?

[StriderC]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. He needs to shut up. I wish someone would present him with his crappy interviews answers, connect it to the damn story he made and say, does any of this bs makes sense??

1. Naruto is childish if we use the Interviews

2. Naruto is selfish AS kitten. He kitten blocked his ass off and I'm laughing right now.

That's only a few of the things wrong here. With each interview, he drives a knife in the original story. He kills off the supposedly genuine relationship NS had. Hell I don't know what to think of NS if I go off of this late interviews. What about the databooks? The covers? His comment to Sai? Lmao! He's trying to kill the manga quality for a movie... let that mofo bomb!

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think "Kishi" should be a meme now.

[Hanabi]

 

My theory is that they tried to appeal to girls as well and insert Hinata as someone whom Japanese girls could identify with. She's pretty in a very traditional Japanese way, and her manners are so meek that she couldn't offend anyone. 

 

Sakura doesn't look like anyone except herself, and her character has no problem making ripples. Only some girls would identify with her, and only some guys would be into her.

 

I think they went with Hinata to seize a bigger chunk of the audience, sell more movie tickets, more cds and more merchandise.

 

Who's going to see a ninja-romance movie? Girls.

 

Who's going to by a cd of love songs? Girls.

 

Who's going to buy a calendar or an alarm clock or a keychain? Girls.

 

Hinata has actually replaced Naruto in terms of the marketing importance in this movie. It's about Hinata, and the sales are geared to girls. It's bet they're banking on it being a date-night movie.

 

I think it has nothing to do with what's come before in the manga. Only what they've decided will sell the best going forward.

i don't think anyone would buy that for themselves seriously.. it's more like a prank kind of present for a friend maybe.

 

everytime kishimoney wows me with his tactless thoughts. it's amazing in some ways.

Edited by Hanabi, 05 December 2014 - 02:52 PM.

[Narufan85]

 

 

If they wanted to appeal to girls, then why not make Sakura the lead? She's the one female in the manga most regular girls can relate to, she's not the classic big breasted, 2D woman we see in Shounon Manga, Sakura was a classic example of a strog Shojo type heroine, she looks allot more like the typical Shojo heroine, her beauty is based on reality, she isn't made to ook perfect, she doesn't have big breasts, and perfect features, she is awkward, has issues with her forehead. Her personailty is the closest a girl could relate to, every girl has a first crush, one that doesn't pay them attention, they hope to find a love that makes them the centre of their world, would move a mountain for them to see them smile.

 

If Kishi wanted to make a Shojo movie he should have picked a Shojo heroine, someone the girls could relate to...maybe we should do a poll, we must have plenty of female fans of the series here right?

 

Which charactor can the relate to more, Hinata or Sakura?

 

And, shocker, part of what made NS so beautiful is that both characters are flawed, imperfect, and real. Sasuke and Hinata are too easily portrayed as typical "popular" characters.

 

Also, can we get a separate bank of "likes" just for Tricksie's posts?

[StriderC]

It's terrible news for our ship, so I'm sure that interview is legit, but I doubt his sincerity.
 
Paralleling Kushina and Sakura, if it were just them being saved by Minato and Naruto respectively, then fine. However, she told Naruto to find someone like her whilst she died, those were some of her last words. And then to have Minato himself point out the similarity, and Naruto himself called her his girlfriend...that is going way too far if the purpose was to mislead us.
 
I think something changed and he now wants to leave no doubt as this bad piece of fanfiction that is "The Last" is set to drop. He did a terrible job in the manga with the relationships that now he has to retcon NaruSaku, because it had too much development and continues to overshadow the other pairings. 
 
 
 
Oh well, at least Street Fighter V is a thing now.

I think he was leaning toward NS at that time. He didn't lean toward NH until the war I'm betting. I mean when he made that comment about not understanding women or whatever BS he said, it felt to me like Kishi was trying to downplay what Kushina told him about finding a girl like her. I can believe he was trying to butcher NS during the war and FAILING.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I did promise luckychi7 and everyone else what I have in mind:

http://sparda3g.tumb...le-are-thinking

[StriderC]

I think there should be a thread placing all of the interviews together because I'd love to compare it to what has been presented in the manga. It's almost like we will get an entirely new character with what he has said in these interviews.