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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Wonder if Sakura will get over her feelings over Sauce

from what I gathered that's what she was trying to do with the confession but still had feelings for him which Naruto noticed. Either she will actually move on from those feelings or she will accept that she has them and still be with Naruto.

The latter would be a bad ending since Naruto wont accept.
In fact i dont know how she will get over her feelings for Sasuke.
I think she will still have to make a decision, Karin can trigger it because they both know that they love Sasuke but they dont have a rivalry.
I just think that both Sasuke and Karin share the same aspect because Sasuke did horrible things to both of them but seeing Karin still pursuing Sasuke might be a depressing view for her, not in terms of jealously but in terms of it's not correct and a lack of self respect.

[FireFox]

The forehead comment is strong, however it's a double edge sword, if it turns out that she hold her love for Sasuke because of that scene, it would make her look pathetic because it was obvious, it wasnt the real Sasuke, when the real one come back he was cold towards her and she wasnt understanding why he was acting like that.

Obvious to who to you the reader  but not the character himself the fact that she didn't understand why Sasuke was acting cold toward her furthermore proves that she doesn't know the real Sasuke  , there was no suspicion of her that he was someone else if there was Kishi would have clearly showed it , just because she was wondering why he was acting like that doesn't mean that she was aware that it was someone else not him , you have no real evidence that proves or support  what you are saying so no she wouldn't look pathetic and its not just about the forehead comment its about the image that she gained of him which Kishi point this out by both Naruto and Sakura at the end of that scene   

[Gojira]

I don't think its too farfetched to think she fell in love with Sasuke because of the forehead comment especially when you consider she already had a crush on him and wanted his acknowledgement more than anything.

Then that kind of goes with what Kushina said about how when Minato commented on her hair she saw him as someone as a soulmate and someone who could make her dreams come true.

I actually hope that it turns out its because of the forehead comment otherwise this devotion she has for someone who has been nothing but cold to her for the entire series just makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[luffyq1]

Either she will actually move on from those feelings or she will accept that she has them and still be with Naruto.

That'd be gross. I wouldn't want my girl haven't eyes for any man but me, idc if he's Channing Tatum himself. Though I would understand because he's Channing Tatum!

[ramenanmitsu]

That'd be gross. I wouldn't want my girl haven't eyes for any man but me, idc if he's Channing Tatum himself. Though I would understand because he's Channing Tatum!

If your girl was in love with Channing Tatum I advise you to give up man.....

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 19 April 2014 - 12:19 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Obvious to who to you the reader  but not the character himself the fact that she didn't understand why Sasuke was acting cold toward her furthermore proves that she doesn't know the real Sasuke  , there was no suspicion of her that he was someone else if there was Kishi would have clearly showed it , just because she was wondering why he was acting like that doesn't mean that she was aware that it was someone else not him , you have no real evidence that proves or support  what you are saying so no she wouldn't look pathetic and its not just about the forehead comment its about the image that she gained of him which Kishi point this out by both Naruto and Sakura at the end of that scene

I have no evidence that she knows that it's not Naruto but there's no evidence either that shows that the bench scene was important to Sakura's feelings because it wasnt used to explain her feelings for Sasuke, only her childhood and her confession for him.
Which makes the basis of her feelings for Sasuke illogical, however she was the second most intelligent of her class losing only to Shikamaru.
It's an assumption but i dont think Kishi would revisit because that scene served to it's purpose, which was to show the love triangle.

I don't think its too farfetched to think she fell in love with Sasuke because of the forehead comment especially when you consider she already had a crush on him and wanted his acknowledgement more than anything.

Then that kind of goes with what Kushina said about how when Minato commented on her hair she saw him as someone as a soulmate and someone who could make her dreams come true.

I actually hope that it turns out its because of the forehead comment otherwise this devotion she has for someone who has been nothing but cold to her for the entire series just makes no sense to me whatsoever.

The problem is the Sasuke itself, he was lovey dovey with her, and all charming and nice to her and suddenly when he appears next he was all cold and didnt cared about her.
Unless if she believes Sasuke has a double personality.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 April 2014 - 12:15 AM.

[luffyq1]

If your girl was in love with Channing Tatum I advise you to give up man.....

:(

[FireFox]

I have no evidence that she knows that it's not Naruto but there's no evidence either that shows that the bench scene was important to Sakura's feelings because it wasnt used to explain her feelings for Sasuke, only her childhood and her confession for him.
Which makes the basis of her feelings for Sasuke illogical, however she was the second most intelligent of her class losing only to Shikamaru.
It's an assumption but i dont think Kishi would revisit because that scene served to it's purpose, which was to show the love triangle.

The problem is the Sasuke itself, he was lovey dovey with her, and all charming and nice to her and suddenly when he appears next he was all cold and didnt cared about her.
Unless if she believes Sasuke has a double personality.

Well we have nothing that explains her feeling for him not even in her confession to him and i think the bench scene is the reason for it , because if it was shown then and there that this was the reason for her feelings for him then the romance subplot would have ended then and there besides this is the only scene that would make her love for him not to be seen as idiotic not to mention that they were about to kiss with fake Sasuke (Naruto) , we have nothing else even in the kage summit when she was about to kill him the only memories she had of him is she fangrling over him and him being indifferent toward her . And yes this was the scene that the love triangle was introduced and i think it will be the scene that will completely end it . 

 

Also Just because she is intelligent doesn't mean that she could have recognize that it was not him after all Naruto was a perfect transformation of Sasuke she had an suspicion on why he was acting like that not that he was someone else and if Sakura knew that it was Naruto she was about to kiss then you can bet that in the next scene we would have seen Naruto all beaten up :) . And don't you think that it would have been a hole if she knew that it was Naruto but it wasn't shown ? Kishi is not the type to this . 

 

Yes Sasuke was all lovey dovey  with her and then cold , but the reason he was like that was because of Sakura's comment so i think she blamed herself for that  . Either way however this turns out i don't think by showing the bench scene to be the reason for it would make her look pathetic that's all. 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 19 April 2014 - 01:10 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well we have nothing that explains her feeling for him not even in her confession to him and i think the bench scene is the reason for it , because if it was shown then and there that this was the reason for her feelings for him then the romance subplot would have ended then and there besides this is the only scene that would make her love for him not to be seen as idiotic not to mention that they were about to kiss with fake Sasuke (Naruto) , we have nothing else even in the kage summit when she was about to kill him the only memories she had of him is she fangrling over him and him being indifferent toward her . And yes this was the scene that the love triangle was introduced and i think it will be the scene that will completely end it .

The moments you pointed out are the reason of Sakura's love for Sasuke.
Not the bench scene, why Kishi would pass the entire manga showing Sakura's reasons to love Sauske and even the thank you being so strongly emphasized to justify her love to just show in the end that her love for Sasuke was based on a lie all the time.
It would literally make her look stupid.
 
 

Also Just because she is intelligent doesn't mean that she could have recognize that it was not him after all Naruto was a perfect transformation of Sasuke she had an suspicion on why he was acting like that not that he was someone else and if Sakura knew that it was Naruto she was about to kiss then you can bet that in the next scene we would have seen Naruto all beaten up :) . And don't you think that it would have been a hole if she knew that it was Naruto but it wasn't shown ? Kishi is not the type to this . 
 
Yes Sasuke was all lovey dovey  with her and then cold , but the reason he was like that was because of Sakura's comment so i think she blamed herself for that  . Either way however this turns out i don't think by showing the bench scene to be the reason for it would make her look pathetic that's all.

That's the tricky about discussing the bench scene, we're both making assumptions of weither Sakura realized it or not, by canon standards the reason was given when she was about to kill Sasuke.
On which the strongest moment was shown to be her confession towards Sasuke specifically the "thank you".
But the problem is that despite Kishimoto showing that moments it doesnt justify.
Kishimoto shows that her love for Sasuke is strong but the foundations for that are weak.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 April 2014 - 01:27 AM.

[Raito]

If your girl was in love with Channing Tatum I advise you to give up man.....

Give her the best time of her life in bed. That will change everything ;) 

[rocci]

@narutofirfox
I agree with you, that scene will revisit just like how kishi bring Yamato comment on wind fuel fire element.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@narutofirfox
I agree with you, that scene will revisit just like how kishi bring Yamato comment on wind fuel fire element.

I know it's not directed to me but the scenes arent even related and it wanst Yamato's comment but rather Naruto thinking about that wind makes fire stronger and then he thinking about Sasuke.
In fact that scene was nothing other than showing Naruto's desire to cooperate with Sasuke on the future.

Also there's a difference between revisiting a scene and a flashback, that occasion was just a flashback, revisiting would be showing more about that scene, like he did with Rin's death, on which he showed at first on Obito's flashbacks that Kakashi killed her making it seem like she was some sort of spy or even Kakashi killed her to prevent Mist ninjas from capturing her and later when they were fighting on the pocket dimension he revisited the scene and showed that Rin jumped in front of Kakashi's chidori because she wanted to die to protect the village.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 April 2014 - 01:48 AM.

[Nostradamus]

What's with the Sakura "hate" lately?

[FireFox]

The moments you pointed out are the reason of Sakura's love for Sasuke.
Not the bench scene, why Kishi would pass the entire manga showing Sakura's reasons to love Sauske and even the thank you being so strongly emphasized to justify her love to just show in the end that her love for Sasuke was based on a lie all the time.

It would literally make her look stupid.

How is  she fangrling over him and him being indifferent about it is a reason to be in love with someone ? Those are  elements of a crush , also by the thank you scene she already loved him and that thank you is the only thing that held her feelings for him but that is not a reason to fall in love with someone . That has to be the stupidest reason i have ever seen or heard of not even the worst romantic movies or romance comedy movies have this because this is shallow as hell . What you are talking about are not reason those scenes only shows that she has feelings for him not the reason for those said feelings that does not justify her love for him .  

 

As for would it make her stupid if her feelings are based on a lie i don't think so she was a very young girl and she didn't know any better she is a teenage girl now and as long as she realize where here true feelings lies at the end its ok with me  

 

 
That's the tricky about discussing the bench scene, we're both making assumptions of weither Sakura realized it or not, by canon standards the reason was given when she was about to kill Sasuke.
On which the strongest moment was shown to be her confession towards Sasuke specifically the "thank you".
But the problem is that despite Kishimoto showing that moments it doesnt justify.
Kishimoto shows that her love for Sasuke is strong but the foundations for that are weak.

Well i think i already stated my reasons so i will agree to disagree on this one .

@narutofirfox
I agree with you, that scene will revisit just like how kishi bring Yamato comment on wind fuel fire element.

I know what you mean lately his been revisiting scenes from early P1 and P2  like in 663 with the chunin exam scene and in Ch 2 with Tobirama being the creator of the KB , i'm 100% sure that he will do it with Ch 3 also.   

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 19 April 2014 - 11:41 AM.

[KeikoxYusuke]

 

I understand what you're trying to say, and yes, Sakura has done some really good things. However, the issue is that Sakura is a main character in name, but she is not treated like one in action. I'm not saying she needs to fight more in order to be relevant -- of course it would be nice -- but the only part of the plot she currently has any role in is the romance subplot not the main plot. As someone who loves Sakura's character, this bothers me because I don't feel it does her justice.

 

I mean, if you compare Kishi's handling of Sakura in the beginning of part two, to now, the difference is pretty big. Sakura was great then, not just because she fought, but because she was not limited to her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke, or her support of Naruto's dream, though both of those things were part of her character and her motivation. She was still her own character, active and present in whatever was happening at the time.

 

If Kishimoto is setting up something for Sakura with the recent chapter, great, but if it only leads to another pairing hint or parallel...  I'm sorry but that's not making Sakura relevant. I truly hope you are right and she does get to play some part in upcoming chapters, but the track record has not been promising.

 

Kishimoto's treatment of Sakura in comparison to Naruto and Sasuke, or even Kakashi, is vastly unequal. She is not given or treated with the same importance as they are, I'm not talking about fights here either, but the fact that they have a role and connection in the main plot. Sakura is the only one from the original main group of characters left to stay in the background, only stepping into the spotlight briefly now and then. Even after this arc is over she has nothing set up for her to do, since she's decided to just believe in Naruto and Sasuke to take care of things on their own. 

 

Maybe Kishimoto really doesn't feel confident writing females and that's the reason why things are the way they are with Sakura, I don't know. It could be. Or maybe he just doesn't feel she needs to have a role outside what she has now.

 

I'm not trying to be negative here, but this is a place where I feel I can share my opinion, be it good or bad. If it bothers people though, I will stop.

I really don't see it that way at all. How has it changed? What do you mean by not the same importance?  See, one of the things I like about Sakura is that her we ( the readers) see the story though her eyes. She has what appears to be a lesser role only because Kishi tends to use her as a way of letting us "see" the story unfold. We don't see into the emotional side of things much when Sakura is not present. This ( I think) is why people say her development has more to do with her mental state, or her feelings. 

 

Yes she fights as well, and that's always fun to watch...But her character is what gives this series feeling. 

 

When she feels down, we feel down, when she cries, we feel like crying etc... 

 

I can't see her as unimportant if this series's heart depends on her. 

 

Naruto and Sasuke...They rarely show it when they feel down, they hide their tears, Sakura doesn't. 

 

It's what makes her so much more real. 

 

 

And I'm not sure how else to say it...If what  I am saying now even makes sense to everyone...But her role is a very important one. 

 

She is more then just your ruin of the mill heroine. ( to me) 

 

I know many others seem to think she lacks this or that....And honestly? I think no matter WHAT she does, some people are always going to find something wrong. 

 

Because when you look for negative things, you will find them. 

 

No one is perfect. 

 

I don't want Sakura to be flawless ( I hate Mary-Sue's) I just want her to be a part of the plot like the rest of the main cast. I think she has stayed that way for a very long time. ( Only a few chapters during the war arc did we really start notice a lack of Sakura-chan...) 

 

I think many just wish she got to fight more, but for me, although I feel that way at times, I don't see why fighting is the only way. There are heroines out that that are not fighters.  Those who support the ones that are. ( and they also are tough yet sweet...AKA Tsundere) 

 

.......Idk...It just seems like people are trying harder to nit pick when they should just be happy. =/

( Not saying you are btw...but ....some others...and ya'll know who you are...)

 

 

Let's all try and NOT nit pick......ok? 

[Gojira]

how do you guys think kishi will have Sakura get over sauce?

[KeikoxYusuke]

how do you guys think kishi will have Sakura get over sauce?

I think she is over him already and doesn't know it yet. remember her fake smile when she acted like she felt the same way towards Sasuke as she always has? I think it happened then. 

 

It's going to be flashed back to maybe, just to explain the how and why's, and other flashbacks to flesh it out more. 

 

I could be wrong of course...

[Gojira]

I think she is over him already and doesn't know it yet. remember her fake smile when she acted like she felt the same way towards Sasuke as she always has? I think it happened then. 
 
It's going to be flashed back to maybe, just to explain the how and why's, and other flashbacks to flesh it out more. 
 
I could be wrong of course...

That's true the only problems with that is her blushing at the end of 632 (which shows that she does still have feelings for him) and I'm not sure whether she was not trusting him because he's a wild card or because of what he said ("burn it down") a line that made several other people uneasy around him (Sai, Naruto, Hashirama even Jugo)

[Superman333]

That's true the only problems with that is her blushing at the end of 632 (which shows that she does still have feelings for him) and I'm not sure whether she was not trusting him because he's a wild card or because of what he said ("burn it down") a line that made several other people uneasy around him (Sai, Naruto, Hashirama even Jugo)

to me she wasn't blushing it looking dirt to me . Because if you read through that chapter and look at her face you would see the same patterns of dirt even before and after that situation . And Kishi draws his blushes different than that .

[redragon88]

That's true the only problems with that is her blushing at the end of 632 (which shows that she does still have feelings for him) and I'm not sure whether she was not trusting him because he's a wild card or because of what he said ("burn it down") a line that made several other people uneasy around him (Sai, Naruto, Hashirama even Jugo)

 

One more time...

 

Blushing doesn't automatically mean that a character is having romantic thoughts. Context matters.

 

Sakura was happy that Sasuke had her back and that Team 7 was working as a unit once again after so long, hence blushed. Even when Naruto whined that Sakura supposedly ignored him she told him not to complain about trivial matters or that she would take the Hokage seat. In other words, Naruto was overreacting at Sakura's momentary attention of Sasuke and she called him out on it.

 

In manga, people (especially girls) tend to blush when something happy or embarrassing occurs, and that doesn't necessarily have to do with romance. I remember a panel of Naruto blushing at something Minato said, and I'm pretty sure Naruto doesn't want to make out with his dad. Also, the other day I saw a page in which Kakashi said something nice about Team 7 in which Naruto and Sakura blushed, and I'm pretty sure they aren't in love with Kakashi.

 

to me she wasn't blushing it looking dirt to me . Because if you read through that chapter and look at her face you would see the same patterns of dirt even before and after that situation . And Kishi draws his blushes different than that .

 

I thought it was just dirt too, but I think someone here that has the volume said that it really was a blush. It doesn't really matter in the end. Why is that? See above.

Edited by redragon88, 19 April 2014 - 07:26 AM.