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[alexander]

Hinata has absolutely NOTHING as a tsundere she's the shy girl that likes the main protagonist I have seen this kind of character in other shounen mangas before. The tsundere is the girl that acts cold and mean to the protagonist but with time she starts being love struck or in complete denial of her feelings for the main protagonist (in comic relief scenes the author will always make the tsundere hit the protagonist to relief the tension from the drama).

A lot of the shounen manga I have read always has the heroine as the tsundere and she always ends up with the main protagonist Naruto to me is no exception Kishi is just following the usual main hero/heroine pairing and with the usual shounen pairing plot.

I think the reason for the Tsundere aways ending as the main girl is just because is more fun. Really, think about it, if Naruto puted his interest in Hinata instead of Sakura, she would give in to his advances at same time, but for Sakura, there is a long path Naruto needs to take in order to break Sakura shell and make she realize her fellings, and that is just more entertaining, without saying that for some reason there is an unique charm that comes from the tsundere girls, I can't explain it myself but, they really stand between the other female characters.

[Codus N]

@alex: offtopic: what's the name of that anime you have in your sig, Alex?

[Quinny52]

^That would be 'B Gata H kei' (H pronounced as 'ecchi'). Hope this helps.

[alexander]

^That would be 'B Gata H kei' (H pronounced as 'ecchi'). Hope this helps.

Yep, thats the name, you should check it Newkers, it's an great anime.

[Ryuuk-chan]

Hey, I have a question:Do you think that Naruto and Sakura's parents know each other? I mean, I know they have heard of him for sure, he is a village hero after all, and it's likely that Sakura has mentioned about her teammates at home. Still, I wonder If they have ever talked, or maybe they know each other only by sight?. Considering that Naruto is Sakura'a best friend, her parents should know him personally, but we can't be sure of that, we have never seen them after all. Well, that means we can only guess, so maybe my question is pointless, but I think that making up things like that is fun.

I'm asking because yesterday I imagined Sakura telling Naruto that since they are a couple, he has to meet her parents, and Naruto freaking out because he is sure he will say or do something stupid

[catsi563]

Its possble, though highly speculative as we dont know much about them. They almost certianly know of them, though again Its doubtful they know that they are his parents. Given the secrecy of the birth and the events surrounding it, Id wager very very few people know the whole truth.

Thats something thats going to be a big reveal for the village. the fourths true legacy. We can be sure given Sakuras personality that shes spoken of naruto to her parents.

Adn I stand by my own thought that they at worst just cautioned her to be careful of him when she was younger. As she got older and learned his secret theyd mellow and onyl show concern for her safety that any parent would.

I still do not believe that her parents showed any direct hatred or dislike of Naruto at all. Sakuras own behavior seems to mirror and support this conclusion.

[Ryuuk-chan]

Damn, I meant If Naruto knows Sakura's parents I'm sorry, my english isn't very good.

[catsi563]

Im certian he does. Sakura would obviously have spoken to them about him, and of course theyd know him. And given the vagauries of the story its pretty easy to assume she may have invited him over for lunch or something post time skip.

[Toasty Warrior]

They've never really said much about Sakura's parents in the manga or the anime, I'm still trying to figure that out myself, does Sakura have a mother and father or is it just her mother because I've heard people say that her father was killed in the Kyuubi attack? Yet I'm sure her parents hold no hatred towards Naruto.

Edited by Toasty Warrior, 31 October 2010 - 10:50 PM.

[Gravenimage]

They've never really said much about Sakura's parents in the manga or the anime, I'm still trying to figure that out myself, does Sakura have a mother and father or is it just her mother because I've heard people say that her father was killed in the Kyuubi attack? Yet I'm sure her parents hold no hatred towards Naruto.

Her father killed by the Kyuubi has been overused in fan fiction too many times but I don't know if he's really alive like you said we haven't heard much from Sakura's parents in both manga and anime. It must be because both of them are irrelevant to the story.

[ciardha]

Her father killed by the Kyuubi has been overused in fan fiction too many times but I don't know if he's really alive like you said we haven't heard much from Sakura's parents in both manga and anime. It must be because both of them are irrelevant to the story.

Both her parents are still alive, we know that from when Shikamaru referenced them when he talked to Sakura. It's likely they are low ranking ninja, and her family has been a very minor ninja family for generations. The Haruno family is a ninja family as she has a ninja family crest, but not even a mid level clan of note like Ino's and Chouji's. Probably similar in status to Iruka's. Since she has a crest though, it's highly likely some ninja ancestor of hers was a powerful Jonin. I still think her "Inner Sakura" persona is tied into a kind of defensive genjutsu ability that was passed down through her line. In the manga no one else exhibits this ability, and it can act as a shield against mental possession. They did describe her as a "genjutsu type" a couple of times, and that's the only example we've seen of her using anything like a genjutsu ability. She's had some training in strengthening it, during the timeskip as Itachi's clone's genjutsu had no effect on her, where even Kakashi started to go under it again. I'm wondering if this ability may play a role when Naruto has to fight Madara and/or Sasuke. Sakura comes along and breaks their every attempt at genjutsu.

[naruto-z]

Both her parents are still alive, we know that from when Shikamaru referenced them when he talked to Sakura. It's likely they are low ranking ninja, and her family has been a very minor ninja family for generations. The Haruno family is a ninja family as she has a ninja family crest, but not even a mid level clan of note like Ino's and Chouji's. Probably similar in status to Iruka's. Since she has a crest though, it's highly likely some ninja ancestor of hers was a powerful Jonin. I still think her "Inner Sakura" persona is tied into a kind of defensive genjutsu ability that was passed down through her line. In the manga no one else exhibits this ability, and it can act as a shield against mental possession. They did describe her as a "genjutsu type" a couple of times, and that's the only example we've seen of her using anything like a genjutsu ability. She's had some training in strengthening it, during the timeskip as Itachi's clone's genjutsu had no effect on her, where even Kakashi started to go under it again. I'm wondering if this ability may play a role when Naruto has to fight Madara and/or Sasuke. Sakura comes along and breaks their every attempt at genjutsu.

wow thats a great point. I had never thought of inner sakura as a a special clan ability to fight against genjutsu. I actually had almost forgot about it completely since kishi has not mentioned or shown inner sakura for ages.

[Quinny52]

@ciardha - I've heard that idea mentioned a few times before, but I can't say it's one that gets me interested. To me Inner Sakura was there to show the readers/audience what Sakura's real opinions/thoughts were as opposed to what she may have said out loud. Since the time-skip however, we've seen Sakura become more confident about herself, and therefore more comfortable with speaking her mind, and thus her inner self has all but disappeared.

I do think though that this long forshadowing of Sakura's potential will be worth it in the end. I imagine that she could invent genjutsu that could be used on all 5 senses, either individually (sight, hearing, touch etc) or ones that target two or more senses simultaneously (so far in the series, I don't believe we've seen a genjutsu that targets more than one of the 5 senses, Tsukuyomi might be the exception). Nevertheless, I really think Sakura could become one of the most powerful natural genjutsu casters in the series.

[Miss Soupy]

It would be nice if Inner Sakura really was used as mind-defense. The fact that Ino said she had "two minds" seems to indicate it was abnormal to have an inner personality that could also dispel a mind control jutsu. All in all, I have seen some fanfics that use this ability in interesting ways which would be nice to see XD ..but I'm not really going to hold my breath.

As far as her being from a ninja clan, her overall demeanor, to me, suggest she wasn't from one. Perhaps Sakura created the circle symbol herself when she decided to become a ninja. It just seems that, even if her parents weren't very good ninja, you would see some kind of evidence of them being so. Sakura's ninja life is just so separate from her familial one, which is very different than how the known ninja families are shown.

[maliousdei]

what do you guys think would be the most likely way for naruto to finally tell sakura how he feels about her?

[ciardha]

As far as her being from a ninja clan, her overall demeanor, to me, suggest she wasn't from one. Perhaps Sakura created the circle symbol herself when she decided to become a ninja. It just seems that, even if her parents weren't very good ninja, you would see some kind of evidence of them being so. Sakura's ninja life is just so separate from her familial one, which is very different than how the known ninja families are shown.

I thought before Shikamaru mentioned both her parents seeking revenge in a ninja way if Sakura was killed, that only her father was a ninja and her mother was a civilian and thus her mother had a major influence on Sakura- her father being away on missions most the time. Being just a Chunnin, but with a family, he would have to take on missions almost constantly to support them. Sakura's mother perhaps worked at a low paying civilian job or as the anime suggested, had a small time candy making business in the home. From Shikamaru's statement I'm going to have to say her mom must have been at least a Genin (but tying into your thoughts a bit- she didn't come from a ninja family. So with a ninja father having very little influence on her and a mother who had a non ninja background having a profound influence on her, she entered the Academy with no ninja training whatsoever.) From what Kishimoto has said about Sakura's background, he basically just transferred the typical familial life his generation would have grown up in- into Naruto's world. Thus instead of her father being a salaryman he was Chunin ninja away most the time on missions, she would have seen him occasionally but her mother would have been the one there most the time.

[Quinny52]

^ If that's the case, then we might see either of Sakura's parents during the remainder of the series, seeing as how every capable ninja and kunoichi is being called to arms for this war.

[ciardha]

^ If that's the case, then we might see either of Sakura's parents during the remainder of the series, seeing as how every capable ninja and kunoichi is being called to arms for this war.

I'm almost expecting we won't see them and they'll end up being two of the casualties of the war, getting killed off panel- we'll only see Sakura mourning them. But I wish Kishimoto would show them, even if he doesn't name them and it's only in one little panel.

[Miss Soupy]

I thought before Shikamaru mentioned both her parents seeking revenge in a ninja way if Sakura was killed, that only her father was a ninja and her mother was a civilian and thus her mother had a major influence on Sakura- her father being away on missions most the time. Being just a Chunnin, but with a family, he would have to take on missions almost constantly to support them. Sakura's mother perhaps worked at a low paying civilian job or as the anime suggested, had a small time candy making business in the home. From Shikamaru's statement I'm going to have to say her mom must have been at least a Genin (but tying into your thoughts a bit- she didn't come from a ninja family. So with a ninja father having very little influence on her and a mother who had a non ninja background having a profound influence on her, she entered the Academy with no ninja training whatsoever.) From what Kishimoto has said about Sakura's background, he basically just transferred the typical familial life his generation would have grown up in- into Naruto's world. Thus instead of her father being a salaryman he was Chunin ninja away most the time on missions, she would have seen him occasionally but her mother would have been the one there most the time.

I didn't really take Shikamaru's statement to mean that Sakura's parents had to be ninja in order to get revenge for her death. He was focusing on the cycle of hatred, and regardless of what her parents were, they would want revenge for the loss of their daughter. Not only that but he was also talking about Ino who definitely had ninja parents who would want revenge. Rather than stating the phrase in two different ways, it seemed to me he just made a general statement about their parents wanting revenge i.e. cycle of hatred rather then us getting an actual insight into Sakura's home life. I feel like it doesn't seem to be a priority of Kishimoto, especially since he hasn't shown Sakura thinking anything of her parents for a long time.

I sort of think seeing Sakura's family history is about as likely as getting a last name for Tenten XD

[tricksie]

I sort of think seeing Sakura's family history is about as likely as getting a last name for Tenten XD

Tenten, Konaha's kunoichi cocktail waitress!