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[Otaru]

Well if you're right Naruto and Sakura would be the best medic team ever.

lol right ^^ ?
They already are the best team couple ever in my opinion ^^

[luffyq1]

 

But... no

 

He did not healed Gai.

He just stopped the chakra from escaping his heart's point.

Sakura or another medic will heal him.

Be that as it may, it still doesn't change the fact that Naruto stopped a sacrificial jutsu with just one touch. I can't think of one medical feat that Sakura has done that even surpasses what Naruto just did. 

[Otaru]

Be that as it may, it still doesn't change the fact that Naruto stopped a sacrificial jutsu with just one touch. I can't think of one medical feat that Sakura has done that even surpasses what Naruto just did.

But yeah it's true and it doesn't chock me because it's Naruto the hero, and he's the one to be supposed to be godly like because he's the saviour.

I think it was Kishi's way of showing how powerful Naruto has become, you know to give background to this sentence " I feel like I can do anything ".

Sakura will never be able to do something like that and that's OK with me. I don't want her to be the saviour because I know Naruto is.
Yet, Sakura has evolved a lot in this war ! That was very late from Kishi, I think it too. He could have gave her Byakugo sooner, but anyway I'm really happy ! She got Byakugo, she summoned Katsuyu at last ! I was waiting for that for a long time. She performed surgery on Naruto and saved his life. Yes Obito helped but without her Naruto would be dead. She lectured the alliance. This moment is so strong for me. She talked in place of Naruto. They are a powerful team. She doesn't need to surpass Naruto, and she never will. I don't want her to. She is the strong woman behind him. I love it.

Edited by Otaru, 17 April 2014 - 02:15 PM.

[Luna]

What Naruto did is not even a medical feat so I don't understand what is the problem. We all know Sakura will never surpass Naruto(duh). I mean the anime is called NARUTO for a reason but it doesn't diminish what Sakura has done through out the manga.

[sushi.]

What Naruto did is not even a medical feat so I don't understand what is the problem. We all know Sakura will never surpass Naruto(duh). I mean the anime is called NARUTO for a reason but it doesn't diminish what Sakura has done through out the manga.

I think it does diminish it actually. If Naruto didn't have this ability, Gai would need a medic at once. The situation would be an emergency. Naruto would desperately call for a medic, like he did when Neji was dying. Now Gai can chill until one gets there.

[Otaru]

I think it does diminish it actually. If Naruto didn't have this ability, Gai would need a medic at once. The situation would be an emergency. Naruto would desperately call for a medic, like he did when Neji was dying. Now Gai can chill until one gets there.

 

But a medic wouldn't be able to stop him from dying in this case. That's why...

Naruto has been just like a fireman.

When a fireman save someone and give him something to survive until medics arrive.

 

All this remembers me when Hinata replaced Naruto's shoulder...

Edited by Otaru, 17 April 2014 - 02:10 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

But a medic wouldn't be able to stop him from dying in this case. That's why...
Naruto has been just like a fireman.
When a fireman save someone and give him something to survive until medics arrive.

I think Naruto clearly stated he is safe, he just needs medical care.

[sushi.]

 

But a medic wouldn't be able to stop him from dying in this case. That's why...

Naruto has been just like a fireman.

When a fireman save someone and give him something to survive until medics arrive.

That is true. I forgot.

[Otaru]

I think Naruto clearly stated he is safe, he just needs medical care.

I think Naruto wanted to say that he stopped the process of 8's gate. That's all.

[luffyq1]

I think it does diminish it actually. If Naruto didn't have this ability, Gai would need a medic at once. The situation would be an emergency. Naruto would desperately call for a medic, like he did when Neji was dying. Now Gai can chill until one gets there.

Basically it's letting the meds have the crumbs after Naruto is done with him.

[luffyq1]

But yeah it's true and it doesn't chock me because it's Naruto the hero, and he's the one to be supposed to be godly like because he's the saviour.

I think it was Kishi's way of showing how powerful Naruto has become, you know to give background to this sentence " I feel like I can do anything ".

Sakura will never be able to do something like that and that's OK with me. I don't want her to be the saviour because I know Naruto is.
Yet, Sakura has evolved a lot in this war ! That was very late from Kishi, I think it too. He could have gave her Byakugo sooner, but anyway I'm really happy ! She got Byakugo, she summoned Katsuyu at last ! I was waiting for that for a long time. She performed surgery on Naruto and saved his life. Yes Obito helped but without her Naruto would be dead. She lectured the alliance. This moment is so strong for me. She talked in place of Naruto. They are a powerful team. She doesn't need to surpass Naruto, and she never will. I don't want her to. She is the strong woman behind him. I love it.

Sakura has to take a monumental backseat to Naruto because he's the Messiah now. Before this destiny bullcrap, I at least thought Sakura would hold her own and not be this far behind Naruto. Now, Sakura is nothing but fodder compared to Naruto. In the beginning of part 2, Naruto was stronger than Sakura, but not by leaps and bounds. 

 

Yes, I agree with you, she has evolved in this war. But this power up and relevancy is only coming due to the climax of the story. Basically, he felt obligated to at least throw her a bone since he's neglected her for long.

 

Of course she's never gonna be able to at least catch up to Naruto from seeing distance because she only had one fight in part 2 that's actually memorable to me. So by default, in your own words, "she is the strong woman behind him." I'm sorry, but I'm not ok with that even though it's already sunk in long ago.

Edited by luffyq1, 17 April 2014 - 02:59 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sakura has to take a monumental backseat to Naruto because he's the Messiah now. Before this destiny bullcrap, I at least thought Sakura would hold her own and not be this far behind Naruto. Now, Sakura is nothing but fodder compared to Naruto. In the beginning of part 2, Naruto was stronger than Sakura, but not by leaps and bounds. 
 
Yes, I agree with you, she has evolved in this war. But this power up and relevancy is only coming due to the climax of the story. Basically, he felt obligated to at least throw her a bone since he's neglected her for long.
 
Of course she's never gonna be able to at least catch up to Naruto from seeing distance because she only had one fight in part 2 that's actually memorable to me. So by default, in your own words, "she is the strong woman behind him." I'm sorry, but I'm not ok with that even though it's already sunk in long ago.

Plus Naruto said he could do anything, he doesnt need a strong woman behind him. XDDDDD

[Inferno180]

By all means this forum has somewhat turned into what James has said, some are optimistic while others are just going on about the negatives that kishi missed in regards to sakura saying its too late this or that.

 

I'm not overly annoyed by kishi's choices from what he did with sakura, but for what he did do, it still has its merits and purposes. I mean the only thing we all argee on at this point is that:

NS is very likely to occur and we want it to occur.

 

Otherwise our opinion is now gone to those who are content with what kishi did to those who want more. I do wish he did more with Sakura, but for what time remains he can still make NS come by a meaningful execution.

 

Maybe its better to say some people need to stop focusing on what kishi could have done, its in the past, not giving names out but for those who call sakura irrelevant or think she is reduced to some fodder romance, well nothing can be done about that now? Maybe stop going on the negatives all the time. Let those who enjoy NS in their own way enjoy it.

 

Others who are optimistic or just going with it, well just need to keep your expectations in level or reason, I mean given the deal Sakura has now, she isnt getting a powerup or some earth shattering event, whatever obitos request is, its more or less going to involve something with either just immedately there with obito or transitation to team 7 as a whole, maybe something in the fight for Naruto and Sasuke otherwise whatever happens, sakura's importance only goes to when its involving team 7 directly, not the scope that is going right now with madara, the ten tails, the whole generations of conflict descended upon them. Her main development path is more mental than physical, while she has the physical capability kishi was always able to use at times, her majority of time is mentally driven, not physically.

[ramenanmitsu]

Plus Naruto said he could do anything, he doesnt need a strong woman behind him. XDDDDD

Dude, he needed her to survive just a few chapters ago. I agree with Google-whats-his-name that Sakura is not involved in the plot, but don't erase her past accomplishments just because Naruto said something cocky this chapter.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 17 April 2014 - 04:28 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

By all means this forum has somewhat turned into what James has said, some are optimistic while others are just going on about the negatives that kishi missed in regards to sakura saying its too late this or that.
 
I'm not overly annoyed by kishi's choices from what he did with sakura, but for what he did do, it still has its merits and purposes. I mean the only thing we all argee on at this point is that:
NS is very likely to occur and we want it to occur.
 
Otherwise our opinion is now gone to those who are content with what kishi did to those who want more. I do wish he did more with Sakura, but for what time remains he can still make NS come by a meaningful execution.

So you're telling us to stop expressing our views and jump into the rainbow and positive bandwagon of optmism and ignore how the plot is going downhill because some people doesnt like to read "negative" stuff or opinions that they dont agree.

Also i think before being NS fans we're all Naruto fans first.
 

Maybe its better to say some people need to stop focusing on what kishi could have done, its in the past, not giving names out but for those who call sakura irrelevant or think she is reduced to some fodder romance, well nothing can be done about that now? Maybe stop going on the negatives all the time. Let those who enjoy NS in their own way enjoy it.
 
Others who are optimistic or just going with it, well just need to keep your expectations in level or reason, I mean given the deal Sakura has now, she isnt getting a powerup or some earth shattering event, whatever obitos request is, its more or less going to involve something with either just immedately there with obito or transitation to team 7 as a whole, maybe something in the fight for Naruto and Sasuke otherwise whatever happens, sakura's importance only goes to when its involving team 7 directly, not the scope that is going right now with madara, the ten tails, the whole generations of conflict descended upon them. Her main development path is more mental than physical, while she has the physical capability kishi was always able to use at times, her majority of time is mentally driven, not physically.

It's the same thing you're doing, you're picking the development and saying that is going to happen something to Sakura, while others pick the same development and are saying that Sakura is not going to do something.
The latter is being condemned because it's not optmistic enough.
 

Dude, he needed her to survive just a few chapters ago. I agree with Google-whats-his-name that Sakura is not involved in the plot, but don't erase her past accomplishments just because Naruto said something cocky this chapter.

I was joking btw, but yep, i think it shows how Sakura is in a bit forgotten, i mean her accomplishments arent big as Naruto or Sasuke, maybe because she's negleted too much from Kishimoto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 April 2014 - 04:35 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

OK guys, Naruto didn't heal him, for all we know he just give him some charka, and that was enough to keep him from dieing. that's about it. 

 

Naruto still isn't a healer, maybe his new power is nagating attacks though at him. 

 

who knows? 

 

But why so negative? 

 

The smallest things seem to make you guys think that Sakura is not doing as well. ( Tsunade is still top healer, age and exp...That's not going to change right away.) The Sage's power to Naruto is going to be something useful, and something that fits what they need right now. 

 

Kishi has already put Sakura in place to have a role in this in the plot, whatever Obito's request is...Whatever her role in this is, It's going to be good. 

 

Sakura is a member of the team too, her support role, she has Naruto's back...always. 

 

She can fight too, but right now, I'm interesting in what her "behind the scenes moment with Obito" is going to turn out to be. honestly, I"m more interested in that then Naruto and Sasuke's fight. ( It seems more...Ninja...doing things no one else can see....plotting. Obito is plotting SOMETHING...I just know it. ) 

 

And who knows if it's a good thing, it may be something Sakura has to stop. He may do something good, offer his other eye to Kakashi... Think of Rin..etc..

 

On the other hand, he may plotting something that only Sakura can do that goes beyond that. Sakura still has a role to play in all of this. I wish more NS fans here wouldn't get so negative. 

 

We get enough of that outside of this forum. 

 

what happened to this place being so full of hope? 

 

Hasn't Sakura done many great and cool things? 

 

I think she has. 

 

I point them out, one at a time to all the haters who try to convince me that she useless. It shuts them up pretty good. 

 

 

 

I'm not trying to be rude here, I just....I just wish we could all look on the bright side more often. 

 

I understand what you're trying to say, and yes, Sakura has done some really good things. However, the issue is that Sakura is a main character in name, but she is not treated like one in action. I'm not saying she needs to fight more in order to be relevant -- of course it would be nice -- but the only part of the plot she currently has any role in is the romance subplot not the main plot. As someone who loves Sakura's character, this bothers me because I don't feel it does her justice.

 

I mean, if you compare Kishi's handling of Sakura in the beginning of part two, to now, the difference is pretty big. Sakura was great then, not just because she fought, but because she was not limited to her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke, or her support of Naruto's dream, though both of those things were part of her character and her motivation. She was still her own character, active and present in whatever was happening at the time.

 

If Kishimoto is setting up something for Sakura with the recent chapter, great, but if it only leads to another pairing hint or parallel...  I'm sorry but that's not making Sakura relevant. I truly hope you are right and she does get to play some part in upcoming chapters, but the track record has not been promising.

 

Kishimoto's treatment of Sakura in comparison to Naruto and Sasuke, or even Kakashi, is vastly unequal. She is not given or treated with the same importance as they are, I'm not talking about fights here either, but the fact that they have a role and connection in the main plot. Sakura is the only one from the original main group of characters left to stay in the background, only stepping into the spotlight briefly now and then. Even after this arc is over she has nothing set up for her to do, since she's decided to just believe in Naruto and Sasuke to take care of things on their own. 

 

Maybe Kishimoto really doesn't feel confident writing females and that's the reason why things are the way they are with Sakura, I don't know. It could be. Or maybe he just doesn't feel she needs to have a role outside what she has now.

 

I'm not trying to be negative here, but this is a place where I feel I can share my opinion, be it good or bad. If it bothers people though, I will stop.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So...what's going on here today?

[Gojira]

The difference is that in the CE she wanted to protect that dream no matter what even if she thought that it was an impossible dream back then , now in 633 she believes  in that dream more than anyone else , she protects that dream by fighting for it giving her all  not just for Naruto's sake but also for hers because she wants to see that dream happen no matter what in a sense his dream has also became hers . With 663 that scene from the CE has come to a full circle now it's complete .

 That makes sense though I'm not entirely sure about his dream becoming her dream.
 

So...what's going on here today?

From the looks of it people are talking about whether or not Naruto saving Gai from death renders Sakura useless or not.

Personally I'm fine with him keeping people alive with chakra its different than actually healing him and it doesn't make him a medic.

[ramenanmitsu]

By all means this forum has somewhat turned into what James has said, some are optimistic while others are just going on about the negatives that kishi missed in regards to sakura saying its too late this or that.
 
I'm not overly annoyed by kishi's choices from what he did with sakura, but for what he did do, it still has its merits and purposes. I mean the only thing we all argee on at this point is that:
NS is very likely to occur and we want it to occur.
 
Otherwise our opinion is now gone to those who are content with what kishi did to those who want more. I do wish he did more with Sakura, but for what time remains he can still make NS come by a meaningful execution.
 
Maybe its better to say some people need to stop focusing on what kishi could have done, its in the past, not giving names out but for those who call sakura irrelevant or think she is reduced to some fodder romance, well nothing can be done about that now? Maybe stop going on the negatives all the time. Let those who enjoy NS in their own way enjoy

Sorry, I have nothing against you and I feel better reading your optimistic posts but I have to point out. You telling people that we should be satisfied with Sakura because Narusaku is gonna happen is missing the point. Sakura's development =/= Narusaku.

People are unsatisfied with Sakura right now BECAUSE Kishi focuses on her developing relationship/support towards Naruto instead of her character itself. Narusaku being canon isn't going to solve that problem.

Sakura fans want her to have development outside of Naruto. We don't like Kishi portraying her like his wife who will heal him, talk for him, and support him like breathing air. She is the member of team seven. She should have her own dream, her own goal, and her own story that doesn't relate with Naruto. We want her to be portrayed as a shinobi of team seven, disciple of the fifth Hokage, and the strongest kunoichi who can be a master player in her own right, not as some trophy wife to a guy who is chasing the ass of his long lost 'friend'. The beginning of part two Kishi made us believe that that is going to happen (Kakashi's comment, Chiyo's comment, and Sakura's independency from her teammates). People are angry and frustrated because Kishi is not following what he started and left us hanging for like what? Several years? And certainly after all this waiting we don't want Sakura's development to end up being Naruto Uzumaki's wife, we want Haruno Sakura the strongest medic-nin and one of the Sannin.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 17 April 2014 - 05:20 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 That makes sense though I'm not entirely sure about his dream becoming her dream.
 

From the looks of it people are talking about whether or not Naruto saving Gai from death renders Sakura useless or not.

Personally I'm fine with him keeping people alive with chakra its different than actually healing him and it doesn't make him a medic.

Oh. That's a bit faulty but yeah, I agree with you. It's not like Gai is healed, just saved because it was connected to whole using chakra as a sacrifice. It's a convenient timing, but it's still different.