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[Gojira]

I used to worry about an open ending epilogue but there are 6 reasons why that simply won't happen

1.that would only happen if Kishi went out of his way to build up NS for so long (longer than most anime/manga ships) and come out with nothing.

2. He might as well end it with Naruto not becoming hokage because him getting together with the woman he loves is part of the phase of doing what his predecessors couldn't (Jiraiya, Obito, Yahiko arguably)

3. Having a family by the end would also be the perfect way to end it (considering it's what he's wanted his whole life since chapter 1 he's been completely by himself without a family) Minato and Kudhina also died before they had a chance to live a happy family life something that they regret, something that their future parallels (NS) won't have to go through

4. Kishi says he loves writing about romance so it wouldn't make sense at all for him to put so much emphasis on a romance subplot in what is one of the most popular amines of this generation just to go out of his way and troll people with an open ending

5. Kishi said himself in the RtN interview that he's been thinking of names for Naruto's son (and originally thought of Menma) and Ofcourse why would he be thinking about names if he wasn't planning on introducing him later in the story (not to mention he said Naruto's son "will probably be named Shinachiku" and not "would be named") on top of that he said it in an interview for the most successful Naruto movie

6. He said in the same interview Naruto will end conclusively which implies everything will be tied up nicely by the end which won't be able to happen with an open ending to a huge subplot of the story

[luffyq1]

Well in terms of paring it is imo because it reinforced Saskura's idea that Sasuke is her soul mate and her not knowing that it was Naruto back then just seems so wrong . Just because Saskura's a big girl now and hasn't dwell about that insecurity since P2 doesn't mean that knowing that someone loves that part of her that she hates won't have an impact on her . As of why would it matter if she thought of Sasuke as prince charming back then , well it would because even if she knows now how much of a big kitten he is now her image of him from back then won't be shattered because it would mean that Sasuke changed from the prince she once thought he was to what he is now when in fact he never was that prince to even begin with that projection/image of him that she created and loved will forever remain and she will never know the truth , the moment this scene is cleared up is the moment when her whole image of him will be completely shattered imo .
 
Good in what way as in P1 all thought he was a little selfish jerk even back then ? Also i agree that she should chose him because that's what her hearth tells her .

Well imo I don't think it holds much weight in the pairing plot. And we don't really know what led Sakura to fall in love with Sasuke. All we can do is theorize because Kishi has failed to elaborate on Sakura's terrible romantic feelings for Sasuke. So her knowing it was Naruto may not even give her this monumental epiphany that so many fans want out of that scene.

It has been approximately 669 chapters since that forehead scene has been brought up. Ever since Sasuke left and Naruto made the poal, Sakura has transitioned into this totally different girl that I still have a hard time believing that she used to be a fangirl. When Sakura used the byakugou seal in 634 she clearly states that she doesn't have to worry about keeping her youthful looks. She's far passed those shallow thoughts and it's because of character development. In fact, it started out in the forest of death arc when she decided to cut her hair. I don't think that forehead scene will be brought up not just because of it's relevancy, but also because of Sakura's character development. And even if it does somehow get brought up, I don't think it will play a crucial role in solidifying NS since the things I pointed out.

Her image of Sasuke is shattered or is already in the process of being shattered. Like I said, 540 and 635 are clear examples of that. I'm pretty sure that the forehead scene doesn't need to play a part in Sakura having some realization that Sasuke is a terrible person. She's seeing first hand just how bad he is. And she only saw Sasuke as that "prince charming" for that one instant. What follows after that chapter is Sasuke treating Sakura like trash, telling her to mind her own business and throwing the apple that she carved up for him on the floor and stepping on them. That all happened before the timeskip.

But this is just my opinion. I could be very much wrong.

Edited by luffyq1, 14 April 2014 - 01:29 AM.

[PhenixElite]

That's the reason why open ending has a good chance.In fact i dont think that she's in love with Naruto because there's nothing much of demonstration of that and plus the realization theory for me lacks one important factor.I mean on the confession she thought about Naruto and her feelings later we have Naruto on deathbed and any of those moments made her realize "she's in love with Naruto".So maybe NS is lacking an important moment?Sasuke will probably became good and stop being a jerk again but how can Kishi make NS canon without coming out with the morality, also Sakura still cares about Sasuke.Is Sasuke an obstacle to NS like he's for Naruto being Kage and Peace.I think Sakura's scenario is very complicated.

Again this "open ending has a good chance" without even real evidence to proof that XD.
I will give you some real evidence why it has no good chances of happening.
As an author you dont keep developing a pairing over 600 chapters if your main goal is to not conclude it. You would stop developing it when you have still enough time to make it believeable (see end of part 1/start part 2). If i was an author i wouldnt add a chapter like 631 with clear pairing indication short before the ending of the whole manga if i was planing to end it unconcluded anyways.

And those are just 2 points out of many...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Again this "open ending has a good chance" without even real evidence to proof that XD.
If i was an author i wouldnt add a chapter like 631 with clear pairing indication short before the ending of the whole manga if i was planing to end it unconcluded anyways.

What kind of evidence you have to "proof" that it wont happen or NS will happen in the end.
First of all, Sakura was compared to Kushina's mom however Naruto also was compared to his mother by Minato, and even Karin who started using her jutsus.
Three characters paralleled to Kushina.
Kishi abused of parallels so much that i dont take it seriously anymore.
 

I will give you some real evidence why it has no good chances of happening.
As an author you dont keep developing a pairing over 600 chapters if your main goal is to not conclude it. You would stop developing it when you have still enough time to make it believeable (see end of part 1/start part 2)

And those are just 2 points out of many...

Mangas/Anime that ends on open development doesnt mean that the author needs to stop developing a certain pairing.
Baka to Test ends up with an open ending despite the author developed the Minami/Akihisa.

Also NS lacks something to be canon, which is acknowledgement and then being more open, both Naruto and Sakura lied to each other and they have things to talk about the summit and other issues(Naruto's feelings).
Sakura had two scenarion where she could realized her true feelings which is what a lot of people believe but after the summit and Naruto on his deathbed does she really is in love with Naruto and needs to realize it, or she just doesnt love him and might fall in love with him after a certain event.
And if this event doesnt happen because of Naruto who might distance from Sakura after bringing Sasuke back because he strongly believes she loves him and doesnt want to get hurt.
A remember Obito who was paralleled to Naruto who wanted to be kage and said he wouldnot worry about woman anymore after reaching this position.
I simply dont know man, it's just that Kishi has closed many doors to NS and Sasuke being an ridiculous obstacle.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 April 2014 - 11:02 AM.

[PhenixElite]

What kind of evidence you have to "proof" that it wont happen or NS will happen in the end.First of all, Sakura was compared to Kushina's mom however Naruto also was compared to his mother by Minato, and even Karin who started using her jutsus.Three characters paralleled to Kushina.Kishi abused of parallels so much that i dont take it seriously anymore. Mangas/Anime that ends on open development doesnt mean that the author needs to stop developing a certain pairing.Baka to Test ends up with an open ending despite the author developed the Minami/Akihisa.Also NS lacks something to be canon, which is acknowledgement and then being more open, both Naruto and Sakura lied to each other and they have things to talk about the summit and other issues(Naruto's feelings).Sakura had two scenarion where she could realized her true feelings which is what a lot of people believe but after the summit and Naruto on his deathbed does she really is in love with Naruto and needs to realize it, or she just doesnt love him and might fall in love with him after a certain event.And if this event doesnt happen because of Naruto who might distance from Sakura after bringing Sasuke back because he strongly believes she loves him and doesnt want to get hurt.A remember Obito who was paralleled to Naruto who wanted to be kage and said he wouldnot worry about woman anymore after reaching this position.I simply dont know man, it's just that Kishi has closed many doors to NS and Sasuke being an ridiculous obstacle.

No, you dont get it, there are moments in this manga that cant be negleted such like 631. You cant add moments like this and then just act like they never happened, since they would leave plot holes just like yamatos words to sakura. Thats the reason why there wont be an open ending. The only way to make it possible is bad writing and leaving plot holes and i dont see a reason for kishi to do that.

The manga is not over yet and you dont know what is still left to come NS wise maybe a battle between naruto and sasuke. But as thing stand right now with chapters like 631, there wont be an open ending.

[narusaku256]

The door being closed for now, doesn't mean that it won't open ever again. I'll repeat my sentence again. Naruto on his deathbed was an important event both for Sakura's development as in her feelings and ofcourse NS. I am sure there is much more to the events than it appeared in the current manga. If Kishi really leans towards NS(which he does) this event is too big to be missed and he'll surely come back to it later. It does not perfectly fit the plot on how things went in the current manga. I feel we should be a bit more patient.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

No, you dont get it, there are moments in this manga that cant be negleted such like 631. You cant add moments like this and then just act like they never happened, since they would leave plot holes just like yamatos words to sakura. Thats the reason why there wont be an open ending. The only way to make it possible is bad writing and leaving plot holes and i dont see a reason for kishi to do that.

The manga is not over yet and you dont know what is still left to come NS wise maybe a battle between naruto and sasuke. But as thing stand right now with chapters like 631, there wont be an open ending.

I'm not disregarding 631 neither pretending it didnt happened, i just pointed out that like Sakura was paralleled to Kushina, Naruto was also paralleled and even Karin.

Also when i said that there's a good chance of open ending is that, both 540, the confession and the recent chapters put down the whole "realizing her true feelings" theory.
In terms of development NS has a lot of issues to be resolved and there's Sasuke to be resolved first.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 April 2014 - 12:14 PM.

[PhenixElite]

I'm not disregarding 631 neither pretending it didnt happened, i just pointed out that like Sakura was paralleled to Kushina, Naruto was also paralleled and even Karin.Also when i said that there's a good chance of open ending is that, both 540, the confession and the recent chapters put down the whole "realizing her true feelings" theory.In terms of development NS has a lot of issues to be resolved and there's Sasuke to be resolved first.

Naruto and karin paralleled to kushina isnt by far the same as sakura since it has nothing to do with pairings as well as it has nothing to do with minatos words or kushinas last words.

Well i wouldnt say that 540 is surely a bad chapter for NS but thats another point. 631 happened after 540 and about the recent chapter, we dont know if there isnt more to come and if not.. The manga still isnt over there can always be another moment.

So as said with all the development we got there is no way for an open ending without asspulling and leaving plotholes.

Edited by PhenixElite, 14 April 2014 - 01:03 PM.

[Nostradamus]

I have the raws, what are people interested in knowing about? If you have a chapter number, I can surely send it to you.

Hi can you translate the moment between Naruto and Hinata from 559?

In the spoilers for that chapter Naruto's line was something like "It will be quite lame of me if I were to be saved by you." Mangastream translated it "I'm pretty lame anyway, considering you've already had to save me at least twice now" and the anime used a similar line to the spoilers. So what exactly is the correct translation?

[Gojira]

The door being closed for now, doesn't mean that it won't open ever again. I'll repeat my sentence again. Naruto on his deathbed was an important event both for Sakura's development as in her feelings and ofcourse NS. I am sure there is much more to the events than it appeared in the current manga. If Kishi really leans towards NS(which he does) this event is too big to be missed and he'll surely come back to it later. It does not perfectly fit the plot on how things went in the current manga. I feel we should be a bit more patient.

Once again i'll say that to me the only reasonable explanation is that Kishi didn't want to put too much into this after all he's building up Naruto and Sasuke killing each other in their fight which likely will put them in a much more critical state then here and that will likely be when we get a confirmation of where Sakura stands as she will obviously go to Naruto's side and not Sasuke's. We might even get something that happened in the OVA

imo the fight will likely happen right after the fight with Madara it wouldn't make sense for Kishi to make yet another story arc for a fight he's been building up since this entire war is the climax of the series. idk maybe Its wishfull thinking but It makes more sense to have the fight you've been building up the entire series at the end of the climax of the series rather than after it.

[narusaku256]

I am not talking about the fight. It is about the parallel page in the recent chapter. That's not it. There's more to it! And btw, talking about OVA scene, it came when Naruto had almost died. Frankely, I don't see Sasuke putting Naruto on deathbed, because however we see it, Naruto is more powerful than Sasuke now. So I really don't see Sasuke harming Naruto on such a level.

Edited by narusaku256, 14 April 2014 - 02:58 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Naruto and karin paralleled to kushina isnt by far the same as sakura since it has nothing to do with pairings as well as it has nothing to do with minatos words or kushinas last words.

Well i wouldnt say that 540 is surely a bad chapter for NS but thats another point. 631 happened after 540 and about the recent chapter, we dont know if there isnt more to come and if not.. The manga still isnt over there can always be another moment.

So as said with all the development we got there is no way for an open ending without asspulling and leaving plotholes.

i dont complain about asspulls in Naruto it happens often and pratically every week, the problem what people most complain like the recent chapter is that yet again another person who uses a jutsu that sacrifices his life and make 2 chapters showing Gai's reasoning to sacrifice himself and then on the last instant Naruto jumps in with new powers and saves him.
 

Once again i'll say that to me the only reasonable explanation is that Kishi didn't want to put too much into this after all he's building up Naruto and Sasuke killing each other in their fight which likely will put them in a much more critical state then here and that will likely be when we get a confirmation of where Sakura stands as she will obviously go to Naruto's side and not Sasuke's. We might even get something that happened in the OVA

BUt it's obvious she will stand on Naruto's side, unless if she wants to betray Naruto and Konoha too, doesnt matter if Sasuke is helping the alliance, he's still an enemy like Shikamaru pointed out and even told that to Ino.
And attacking Naruto will make it even worse for Sasuke because he's not on the alliance's side or team.
Everyone is suspicious of him that's why one of the reasons why Kishi didnt make Sakura to know about Sasuke's condition was because even she caring about Sasuke, she would go to save Naruto first because allegiance reasons.(not that i'm saying that she doesnt care about Naruto).
But putting up naruto and Sasuke to fight to death and make Sakura chose one to save and this guy whom she wil save is the one she loves doesnt make sense because Sasuke is an enemy, she would be seem as a traitor if she does the otherwise.

Also i want to see how Naruto is going to make everyone forgive Sasuke, Orochimaru and team taka.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 April 2014 - 04:09 PM.

[PhenixElite]

i dont complain about asspulls in Naruto it happens often and pratically every week, the problem what people most complain like the recent chapter is that yet again another person who uses a jutsu that sacrifices his life and make 2 chapters showing Gai's reasoning to sacrifice himself and then on the last instant Naruto jumps in with new powers and saves him.

I consider those asspulls youre talking about as pretty small ones. They cant really be compared to the kind of asspull an open ending would bring.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

Eh even the stuff as recent as 663 will go somewhere, it just wasn't so soon as we had hoped. I mean after the scene where she remembers how he wants to be hokage, well something going forward in line with the other development should come again. Just not right now.

 

I'm not saying that it won't go anywhere or that Kishi missed his chance or anything. Honestly, my complaint with it isn't really about the lack of a NaruSaku moment; that's kind of a win some, you lose some situation and we can't count on pairing moments just because we feel that setup and situation is ideal.

 

-- Warning, incoming rant --

 

Naruto's revival as a whole was rushed and used as another opportunity to hammer home the Naruto/Sasuke parallel, showing them side-by-side as the reborn saviors, bleh. It's nothing new, but I've had my fill of Sasuke being constantly tied in with Naruto's character -- each one half of the same whole, one cannot exist without the other, tied together as the reincarnated brothers of an ancient rivalry -- it feels like it's being force fed down my throat to reinforce the vastly underdeveloped "bond" between Sasuke and Naruto, you know, in place of any actual development.

 

And, I'm more than a little bothered that Sakura's reaction didn't seem to warrant more than a tiny panel in parallel to a far less developed side character. I feel she should have gotten more than that and it didn't have to be pairing related.

 

At this point, Sakura only seems to be relevant when her healing abilities are and I'm feeling more convinced by what ramenanmitsu said in the 672 thread, about Kishimoto setting Sakura up as Naruto's wife. I know that idea probably doesn't bother many here, but I love Sakura's character separate from NaruSaku. She had a beautiful growth as a character and everything needed to be a wonderful heroine in her own rite, only for Kishimoto to relegate her to the role of the main character's future spouse. I'm not going to lie, I'm not terribly happy about that and don't like to see Sakura's character diminished and shifted off to the side in favor of her male counterparts.

 

I would find it much more fulfilling to see Sakura as the heroine not only in name but in deed, NaruSaku or no NaruSaku. However that doesn't appear likely to happen and I'll just have to stuck it up and deal with it. Kishi's the one running the show and just because I want something else doesn't mean it's going to change.

 

But please don't anyone assume that my complaints mean I'm "jumping ship". I'm not doing anything of the sort and I'm as much a NaruSaku fan as I've ever been, although there are things with the execution that bother me. If anyone wants to counter me though, give a different perspective, you would be more than welcome. 

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 14 April 2014 - 04:31 PM.

[Inferno180]

I'm not saying that it won't go anywhere or that Kishi missed his chance or anything. Honestly, my complaint with it isn't really about the lack of a NaruSaku moment; that's kind of a win some, you lose some situation and we can't count on pairing moments just because we feel that setup and situation is ideal.
 
-- Warning, incoming rant --
 
Naruto's revival as a whole was rushed and used as another opportunity to hammer home the Naruto/Sasuke parallel, showing them side-by-side as the reborn saviors, bleh. It's nothing new, but I've had my fill of Sasuke being constantly tied in with Naruto's character -- each one half of the same whole, one cannot exist without the other, tied together as the reincarnated brothers of an ancient rivalry -- it feels like it's being force fed down my throat to reinforce the vastly underdeveloped "bond" between Sasuke and Naruto, you know, in place of any actual development.
 
And, I'm more than a little bothered that Sakura's reaction didn't seem to warrant more than a tiny panel in parallel to a far less developed side character. I feel she should have gotten more than that and it didn't have to be pairing related.
 
At this point, Sakura only seems to be relevant when her healing abilities are and I'm feeling more convinced by what ramenanmitsu said in the 672 thread, about Kishimoto setting Sakura up as Naruto's wife. I know that idea probably doesn't bother many here, but I love Sakura's character separate from NaruSaku. She had a beautiful growth as a character and everything needed to be a wonderful heroine in her own rite, only for Kishimoto to relegate her to the role of the main character's future spouse. I'm not going to lie, I'm not terribly happy about that and don't like to see Sakura's character diminished and shifted off to the side in favor of her male counterparts.
 
I would find it much more fulfilling to see Sakura as the heroine not only in name but in deed, NaruSaku or no NaruSaku. However that doesn't appear likely to happen and I'll just have to stuck it up and deal with it. Kishi's the one running the show and just because I want something else doesn't mean it's going to change.
 
But please don't anyone assume that my complaints mean I'm "jumping ship". I'm not doing anything of the sort and I'm as much a NaruSaku fan as I've ever been, although there are things with the execution that bother me. If anyone wants to counter me though, give a different perspective, you would be more than welcome.

It's true nothing is ideal, I mean we like sakura for her flaws but it's those flaws with the growth that make her a good character.

If one thing is true, though Kishi could have done better with sakura in some cases, he has handled her much better than others save tsunade. Where sakura has shortcomings, remember, this has a much bigger impact on the other female characters.

I mean at least sakura has a direction, development, we can at least see hints of where she will go. Tsunade very much the same, what will happen with her since at one pout we thought she would die but she is alive and well.

When it comes to the other female characters it's just well jumbled.

Ino is rather more in tune with team 10 as a whole rather than just herself, not much solo development like shikamaru, rather part of the team.

Karin is at least tied to some parts of Sasuke though some of her character is comedical in sasukes serious group and otherwise dramatic like with the dark side stuff he did and the recent near death event.

Tenten is nonexistent

Hinata, well hinata is just a mess. I mean she has some development but Kishi hardly uses her and leaves her behind. I mean it is easy to see that many have thought her role would in tail some kinda love but Kishi just didn't follow up with her. It's those moments like okay maybe 615 could have made nh possible, then 631 comes with sakura Kushina, then hinata gets left behind doing nothing in the recent event while sakura does. Hinata didn't even cause anything indirectly, not even a limbo scene from neji. Literally I feel hinata tripping is the perfect way if saying how Kishi is using her character, he doesn't know what to do with her now if her own initial role is being overshadowed by sakura gradually growing closer to naruto. I mean to have a pairing at this time, in the end, it's much more built to have one gone gradually in the series like sakura coming to like naruto having started hating him. It's much more dynamic than say, nh which was neutral but hardly went anywhere with hinata convinently liking him already, it would be like a reversed SS, one hardly used yet it happened, I would not want to see that, I'd rather see the one that had more dynamic changes over the series.

Otherwise with Sasuke himself being thrown in with naruto, it's just a design aspect like they are connected, they have similar fates etc. maybe Kishi won't keep emphasizing their duality with various pages showing some kinda of symbolism between them.

[luffyq1]

 

I'm not saying that it won't go anywhere or that Kishi missed his chance or anything. Honestly, my complaint with it isn't really about the lack of a NaruSaku moment; that's kind of a win some, you lose some situation and we can't count on pairing moments just because we feel that setup and situation is ideal.

 

-- Warning, incoming rant --

 

Naruto's revival as a whole was rushed and used as another opportunity to hammer home the Naruto/Sasuke parallel, showing them side-by-side as the reborn saviors, bleh. It's nothing new, but I've had my fill of Sasuke being constantly tied in with Naruto's character -- each one half of the same whole, one cannot exist without the other, tied together as the reincarnated brothers of an ancient rivalry -- it feels like it's being force fed down my throat to reinforce the vastly underdeveloped "bond" between Sasuke and Naruto, you know, in place of any actual development.

 

And, I'm more than a little bothered that Sakura's reaction didn't seem to warrant more than a tiny panel in parallel to a far less developed side character. I feel she should have gotten more than that and it didn't have to be pairing related.

 

At this point, Sakura only seems to be relevant when her healing abilities are and I'm feeling more convinced by what ramenanmitsu said in the 672 thread, about Kishimoto setting Sakura up as Naruto's wife. I know that idea probably doesn't bother many here, but I love Sakura's character separate from NaruSaku. She had a beautiful growth as a character and everything needed to be a wonderful heroine in her own rite, only for Kishimoto to relegate her to the role of the main character's future spouse. I'm not going to lie, I'm not terribly happy about that and don't like to see Sakura's character diminished and shifted off to the side in favor of her male counterparts.

 

I would find it much more fulfilling to see Sakura as the heroine not only in name but in deed, NaruSaku or no NaruSaku. However that doesn't appear likely to happen and I'll just have to stuck it up and deal with it. Kishi's the one running the show and just because I want something else doesn't mean it's going to change.

 

But please don't anyone assume that my complaints mean I'm "jumping ship". I'm not doing anything of the sort and I'm as much a NaruSaku fan as I've ever been, although there are things with the execution that bother me. If anyone wants to counter me though, give a different perspective, you would be more than welcome. 

[Gojira]

I am not talking about the fight. It is about the parallel page in the recent chapter. That's not it. There's more to it! And btw, talking about OVA scene, it came when Naruto had almost died. Frankely, I don't see Sasuke putting Naruto on deathbed, because however we see it, Naruto is more powerful than Sasuke now. So I really don't see Sasuke harming Naruto on such a level.

Honestly it would be a pretty anticlimactic fight if Naruto held the advantage, I think it would more or less be even considering Sauce has also gained a power up and more than likely a rinnrgan. Kishi's been building up them killing each other off since the Kage Summit arc it wouldn't make much sense for this to happen and not assume they were evenly matched

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm not saying that it won't go anywhere or that Kishi missed his chance or anything. Honestly, my complaint with it isn't really about the lack of a NaruSaku moment; that's kind of a win some, you lose some situation and we can't count on pairing moments just because we feel that setup and situation is ideal.
 
-- Warning, incoming rant --
 
Naruto's revival as a whole was rushed and used as another opportunity to hammer home the Naruto/Sasuke parallel, showing them side-by-side as the reborn saviors, bleh. It's nothing new, but I've had my fill of Sasuke being constantly tied in with Naruto's character -- each one half of the same whole, one cannot exist without the other, tied together as the reincarnated brothers of an ancient rivalry -- it feels like it's being force fed down my throat to reinforce the vastly underdeveloped "bond" between Sasuke and Naruto, you know, in place of any actual development.
 
And, I'm more than a little bothered that Sakura's reaction didn't seem to warrant more than a tiny panel in parallel to a far less developed side character. I feel she should have gotten more than that and it didn't have to be pairing related.
 
At this point, Sakura only seems to be relevant when her healing abilities are and I'm feeling more convinced by what ramenanmitsu said in the 672 thread, about Kishimoto setting Sakura up as Naruto's wife. I know that idea probably doesn't bother many here, but I love Sakura's character separate from NaruSaku. She had a beautiful growth as a character and everything needed to be a wonderful heroine in her own rite, only for Kishimoto to relegate her to the role of the main character's future spouse. I'm not going to lie, I'm not terribly happy about that and don't like to see Sakura's character diminished and shifted off to the side in favor of her male counterparts.
 
I would find it much more fulfilling to see Sakura as the heroine not only in name but in deed, NaruSaku or no NaruSaku. However that doesn't appear likely to happen and I'll just have to stuck it up and deal with it. Kishi's the one running the show and just because I want something else doesn't mean it's going to change.
 
But please don't anyone assume that my complaints mean I'm "jumping ship". I'm not doing anything of the sort and I'm as much a NaruSaku fan as I've ever been, although there are things with the execution that bother me. If anyone wants to counter me though, give a different perspective, you would be more than welcome.

Agreed, i think on this arc it setup Sakura's role as a character, on the begining Kishimoto showed her as a good shinobi until her fight with Sasori then eh started focusing only on the emotional aspect of her character, it's impossible to separate Sakura from the romance subplot of the manga because she's pretty much the one who makes it move forward either for NS or SS and ironically for NS she's the one who makes the moves despite Naruto being the guy who is after her.

[FireFox]

 

No prob.

 

540

LN: "Prying about the guy you like as someone who's been rejected is tactless huh...I understand, I'll get going!"

S: "...sorry"

LN: "I hope everything turns out well...the guy you like is surely a great person!"

 

Lover nin is obviously talking about a person she had romantic feelings for (the great guy that Sakura came to like), and the person that comes to mind would of course Sasuke. She associates Sasuke with romantic feelings. I don't think that means he's the ~only man she loves~.

 

*if you like the japanese page i can send later

Thank you @megi  . So at the beginning (ch 539 i think) when she says that she already has someone she likes that part doesn't necessarily ties up  to this part right ? I mean the person she said that she already likes could as well be any other men (Naruto) doesn't mean that that person is Sasuke  m'i right or wrong ? Because i feel like those are two different scenes .

 

And yes you can send me the page later thanks again . Also are you sure is "Praying about the guy" not Asking or something like that because praying sounds weird .     

[Gojira]

I think he said "prying" as in he didn't want to bother her about him as it would be rude (misread it as "praying" at first as well)