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[HauntedCake]

So would their child have the kyuubi or medical jutsu? (its a parody of you know what).

Does anybody else picture Naruto as hyper protetive while sakura is pregnant. Even more so than usual.

Naturally, Naruto will be more protective of Sakura during pregnancy, but there won't be any outside threats (being attacked), more like her fainting or needing help later in pregnancy.

Edited by HauntedCake, 14 April 2013 - 04:50 PM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Naturally, Naruto will be more protective of Sakura during pregnancy, but there won't be any outside threats (being attacked), more like her fainting or needing help later in pregnancy.

I can really see her getting frustrated with Naruto because he wouldn`t let her do anything. Make lunch, wash the dishes or any other chores. Naruto would probably be like don`t worry I got it.

[HauntedCake]

I can really see her getting frustrated with Naruto because he wouldn`t let her do anything. Make lunch, wash the dishes or any other chores. Naruto would probably be like don`t worry I got it.

No,no i don't think he would obsess over her at all. Besides she would just smack him to the next village if he did that

[ladyannelise]

It seems to me that the core of all issues people have with Sakura is not whether she'll get together with Naruto or not, rather, is whether she'll keep her love for Sasuke or not.

This seems to be the fundamental problem people have when it comes to Sakura's future development. Even people who aren't interested in seeing Sakura with Naruto like Crimson do not like that Sakura keeps her feelings for Sasuke. It seems the only people who don't mind Sakura's love for Sasuke are the SS shippers. Neutral people, from what I've seen, just feel confused as to why Sakura still loves him.

It makes you think, if there's so many people out there who dislike her love for Sasuke that much then maybe it truly was Kishi's plan for people to not like the idea of Sakura still loving Sasuke. Therefore Sakura would eventually find praise for getting over that love.

i agree with this!
we already know how much Naruto cared for Sakura since part 1 and there's no evidence that he already gave up on his feelings..
now, i really think that Kishi intended to end SasuSaku when Sasuke left the village.. yeah, the 'thank you' speech was really heartwarming and i do love that part,. i still do think that there's a reason for SasuSaku during part 1 (as i was once a fan) and was hoping that Sakura can bring him back..
But that didn't happened,.. what's worse is that Kishi showed multiple times that Sasuke can kill Sakura without any hesitation, that there's no romantic feelings from Sasuke's side, as if Kishi needed to emphasize that this pairing isn't meant to be., at the same time, Kishi made it obvious the growing bond of Naruto and Sakura, why would he do that if the end game isn't NaruSaku?
also, this series has characters that has so devoted to their first loves (can't remember anyone in Narutoverse who has fallen out of love, so pls correct me if im wrong ) and only Sakura was given more than enough reasons on giving up on her first love in a way that no can fault her if she did..

besides, i don't see Naruto giving up on anything including his love interest, if that was the case, then it'll be disappointing to know that the main character himself is someone that can be swayed that easily,. if he couldn't give up on Sasuke when he wasn't even there beside him, then why would he give up on Sakura who's been by his side?..
don't get me wrong, i love Naruto,.. after watching RTN, i love him more.. i couldn't even care about the NaruSaku moments because it was a really sad movie,. and when the movie ended, i really want to see this boy happy and i want him to have a family he never had..
this upcoming battle should pretty much settle the score between this trio since they're bound to meet and join forces against Madara,.. i'm hoping that this time, our dear Sakura will get to have her limelight. It's about time that Kishi show what his heroine can do

[StrikerTheNoble]

No,no i don't think he would obsess over her at all. Besides she would just smack him to the next village if he did that

It would probably come to that. Because I am kinda convinced he would do that. He would see her wornurable in a way and be extra protectful in the last 2 months. Then he would get hit.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Nice posts, you guys.

Hm, was there any anime/manga that is done, but you wish there was a kiss scene?

[catsi563]

The thing about SasuSaku was that it never really existed. A pairing usualy denotes mutualy positive development between the two named in the pairing, and SasuSaku never had any mutual development between them.

SasuSaku was used as a plot device by kishimoto-Sensei as a starting point for NaruSaku. A negative relationship which Sakura was in that was a stark contrast to her relationship with naruto. Thusly we the audience would be able to see and easilly follow the progression of her relationship with naruto from a to z.

We have witnessed Sakuras relationship with Naruto progress with multiple positive growth moments, even the confession was a positive moment in that we got to see them progress to no illusions between them. we now know these two cannot subsist on lieing to protect each other any more. They need honesty and frowardness with eahc other. This is progression with each other.

A look at the so called big 3 ((really big 1 with 2 pretenders)) shows us that NaruSaku has the majority of positive moments of development, while NaruHina and SasuSaku are loaded with either negative or Neutral moments of development in which the pairing regresses or only benefits one member of the pairing.

[Shadow1275]

As I had proposed in my first post, it's not so much a regression of her character as it is an affirmation that her ability to analyze opponent attack patterns take a certain amount of time, and if she is not given such time, her ability to dodge such attacks is no longer above par.


I do not view CES as a "weak and easy" technique, as mastery of it indeed requires perfect chakra control as a prerequisite. My original point, once again, is was to disprove your assertion that she possesses true superhuman strength.


She like all of Naruto's other allies, promises to by his side and support him. And yet, in Naruto's moment of wavering, Hinata is made to be the one to be by his side and help support him, with Sakura standing at the sidelines.


Until Sakura actually begins to fulfill her potential and surpass her predecessors, she will be judged by her current abilities and feats as the heroine, which even in the opinion of Sakura fans here have been quite disappointing.



The fact of the matter is that she did not have the resolve to follow through with it in the end. For comparison, I could resolve to take a 30ft dive into a pool. I climb up the ladder onto the diving board, walk all the way over to the edge, but due to my fear, I freeze on the spot and am unable to actually follow through with the dive. Apparently that is supposed to be viewed as "strength and courage?"
And like you said, her attempt to kill him came after her realization that he was not the same person she thought he was. She knew the gravity to situation, and that she could not falter. And yet...she still did.

The fact that Kishi would not have allowed Sakura to kill Sasuke anyway does not displace the fact that he placed her into a situation where she turned into the damsel in distress twice, once of her own accord.


You're judging the quality of her character based on the future prospects of her receiving development, whereas I am judging her based on the development that she actually has received. And in conclusion, I feel that this development has failed to portray her as a strong character and a proper heroine.

Took you long enough Got a lot of schoolwork this week so the response to this might take a day or two, but it'll come.

[Arachnia]

The thing about SasuSaku was that it never really existed. A pairing usualy denotes mutualy positive development between the two named in the pairing, and SasuSaku never had any mutual development between them.

SasuSaku was used as a plot device by kishimoto-Sensei as a starting point for NaruSaku. A negative relationship which Sakura was in that was a stark contrast to her relationship with naruto. Thusly we the audience would be able to see and easilly follow the progression of her relationship with naruto from a to z.

We have witnessed Sakuras relationship with Naruto progress with multiple positive growth moments, even the confession was a positive moment in that we got to see them progress to no illusions between them. we now know these two cannot subsist on lieing to protect each other any more. They need honesty and frowardness with eahc other. This is progression with each other.

A look at the so called big 3 ((really big 1 with 2 pretenders)) shows us that NaruSaku has the majority of positive moments of development, while NaruHina and SasuSaku are loaded with either negative or Neutral moments of development in which the pairing regresses or only benefits one member of the pairing.

y this is true but in the latest chapters it seems more like NH moments what i dont get is wye in the entire manga did kishi not do anything with hinata except for the important stuff with pain and now with the war arc i mean even if NH is end pairing wye make it so unbelievble and late in the manga i mean i saw her in the manga mabey 10 times and in anime 5 times and more with fillers. you guys say who is tenten butt hell when i started naruto i dident know NH was even a pairing.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The thing about SasuSaku was that it never really existed. A pairing usualy denotes mutualy positive development between the two named in the pairing, and SasuSaku never had any mutual development between them.

SasuSaku was used as a plot device by kishimoto-Sensei as a starting point for NaruSaku. A negative relationship which Sakura was in that was a stark contrast to her relationship with naruto. Thusly we the audience would be able to see and easilly follow the progression of her relationship with naruto from a to z.

We have witnessed Sakuras relationship with Naruto progress with multiple positive growth moments, even the confession was a positive moment in that we got to see them progress to no illusions between them. we now know these two cannot subsist on lieing to protect each other any more. They need honesty and frowardness with eahc other. This is progression with each other.

A look at the so called big 3 ((really big 1 with 2 pretenders)) shows us that NaruSaku has the majority of positive moments of development, while NaruHina and SasuSaku are loaded with either negative or Neutral moments of development in which the pairing regresses or only benefits one member of the pairing.

Interesting point. You know, the funny thing about this love stuff could work with a story like:

The protagonist saw his friend arguing with her boyfriend, so they broke up. He decided to take care of her as they both become closer and closer. The protagonist fallen in love with her as she may have too as well. However, her old love returns in the scene and the protagonist decided to leave her and let her do her things while he walks out.

That point you can make an obvious ending there. It really works well with or without the protagonist being in love at first. Though in this case, it's a huge advantage for Naruto to be in love at first due to how story usually allow them win their love. So long as the development isn't negative. There can be, but of course, fix it. Anyway, I got to see how all of this goes down.

[ladyannelise]

As I had proposed in my first post, it's not so much a regression of her character as it is an affirmation that her ability to analyze opponent attack patterns take a certain amount of time, and if she is not given such time, her ability to dodge such attacks is no longer above par.


I do not view CES as a "weak and easy" technique, as mastery of it indeed requires perfect chakra control as a prerequisite. My original point, once again, is was to disprove your assertion that she possesses true superhuman strength.


She like all of Naruto's other allies, promises to by his side and support him. And yet, in Naruto's moment of wavering, Hinata is made to be the one to be by his side and help support him, with Sakura standing at the sidelines.


Until Sakura actually begins to fulfill her potential and surpass her predecessors, she will be judged by her current abilities and feats as the heroine, which even in the opinion of Sakura fans here have been quite disappointing.



The fact of the matter is that she did not have the resolve to follow through with it in the end. For comparison, I could resolve to take a 30ft dive into a pool. I climb up the ladder onto the diving board, walk all the way over to the edge, but due to my fear, I freeze on the spot and am unable to actually follow through with the dive. Apparently that is supposed to be viewed as "strength and courage?"
And like you said, her attempt to kill him came after her realization that he was not the same person she thought he was. She knew the gravity to situation, and that she could not falter. And yet...she still did.

The fact that Kishi would not have allowed Sakura to kill Sasuke anyway does not displace the fact that he placed her into a situation where she turned into the damsel in distress twice, once of her own accord.


You're judging the quality of her character based on the future prospects of her receiving development, whereas I am judging her based on the development that she actually has received. And in conclusion, I feel that this development has failed to portray her as a strong character and a proper heroine.

hmm.. i have to agree that you have a point, but on the time when Naruto was wavering and Hinata was there, i'd say it was only logical.. Neiji died, Sakura has nothing to do with Neji at all.. it wouldn't be right if Sakura was the one at that moment lecturing Naruto when she barely knew the guy who just died.. yes, that was a NaruHina moment, but isn't weird that Kishi showed Sakura reacting to something in one panel?..
Sakura fell short of our expectations because Kishi portrayed her as the someone who's being saved by the guys, but unfortunately for those who doesn't like her, she is still the heroine.. if Kishi can make a side character shine, then he can make his heroine shine even better, we'll just have to wait

[Dkey]

Interesting point. You know, the funny thing about this love stuff could work with a story like:

The protagonist saw his friend arguing with her boyfriend, so they broke up. He decided to take care of her as they both become closer and closer. The protagonist fallen in love with her as she may have too as well. However, her old love returns in the scene and the protagonist decided to leave her and let her do her things while he walks out.

That point you can make an obvious ending there. It really works well with or without the protagonist being in love at first. Though in this case, it's a huge advantage for Naruto to be in love at first due to how story usually allow them win their love. So long as the development isn't negative. There can be, but of course, fix it. Anyway, I got to see how all of this goes down.

Actually this usually happens in fiction. Heck this happened in Dexter and Dexter was the guy who didn't feel anything. So yeah in a way it's better for NS that Sasuke returns somewhat at peace and ready to help the shinobi alliance win. But considering how important this love triangle was I don't think it will resolve in just one chapter. Maybe an entire volume?

[Inferno180]

Well there are still some people who don't understand why Sakura still loves Sasuke despite his actions at the team 7 reunion, but these are why:

1. Sakura's initial portrayl was to represent human weakness, biggest human weakness is emotion, love is the strongest emotion.

2. Its to lead into her future development, the deal with Sasuke to Sakura, well this has always been something of a big weakness on her, she cannot just get over it, for story purposes it has to stick on her for a while longer, seems dumb to drag it on, but its usually lazy to just have characters switch between things as they come. Sakura still loves him for reasons to her own development and how this will factor into others (mainly Naruto and Sasuke) when the time comes.

3. Part of Sakura's character was struggling between Naruto and Sasuke. First she focused on Sasuke and never considered Naruto. This changed over time especially when Sasuke left. Even before this though, after time had passed and she saw Naruto as a friend but still had focus on Sasuke, she tried to be the peacemaker to a degree (such as nearly risking running into the rasengan+chidori clash before Kakashi stepped in and stopped them. In part 2, you see the dramatic change in how she struggles with Sasuke (by her ideal love and seeing what he has become) and Naruto (being one of her best friends and all the efforts he does for her). She struggles in what mainly Sasuke became and what Naruto does for her and this is one of her dynamics, she is caught in a state of high concern for the possibility of losing Sasuke like Naruto is, but also losing Naruto because without him, there is no future for team 7. Things have changed since team 7 first formed, Sakura considers Naruto very important and has close feelings for him, but those feelings can possibly be more than friendship. In part of her own struggle, Sakura faces the same problems as Naruto but she cannot do it as Naruto can, but in effect since the end of Part 1, she resolved to try and do a lot for him as he always did for her. Yamato said its only that she cares that matters but again and again she has been trying and in this late war she still has that resolve.

4. She knows Naruto loves her, but Naruto does not know this also consider Naruto's I hate people who lie to themselves line towards Sakura, how does this impact her? Knowing Naruto loves her can be a part in her maturity and I personally feel that the lie to themselves line can come back to effect Sakura in that she can soon see she is lying to herself about Sasuke. The love obviously she knows the efforts and how Naruto feels about her, she already knows how he was always there supporting her and she has supported him ever since the POAL and other events when she saw his troubles and burdens, even trying to make amends if the fake confession plan was not the best executed. Sakura has tried to protect and support Naruto and usually always wished she could do more such as hoping to learn wood style but due to genetics, it was impossible but she resolved to help him in any way she could.

The lie to themselves line, this attributes to her not only seeing Sasuke never did care but how its a matter of standing with the one who always supported her and the one who she supported most. All of us know the deal with the idealistic crush, even Kishi calls it selfish, its nothing but a negative trait on Sakura, obviously its her biggest flaw but she has to overcome it notably for her full development. Sakura could be lying to herself about Sasuke this deep in the series. There is still time for her to get over Sasuke by going through some gradual shift, someone like Tsunade or so could push her in the gradual direction, it could be something she does on her own and even confront Naruto about, it could even come in very late during the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight, even with new Sasuke, Sakura is still going to be caught between both of them and the prospect of losing one or both of them. We don't know the full deal with new Sasuke but the fight should still come up for other reasons that still make sense if Kishi does it right.

In short yeah, this is Sakura's biggest development to mature over Sasuke and realize her full feelings (if she goes this way), her development comes full circle in this way. If Naruto started the series as a weak, hated, moron who knew nothing about shinobi, he ends being a respected powerful hokage who solved many problems like a miracle man, succeeds where his predecessors failed, and basically resolves everything. Sasuke finds new meaning in his home, back in the village, free to choose his own fate (well technically Sasuke's can vary for now) but one thing for sure with him, he acknowledges Naruto as an equal at last. So what about Sakura? She started love obsessed with Sasuke and hated Naruto, her ending? Fully mature, loving Naruto in the end, friends with Sasuke. There are so many ways the past development, parallels, and chp 540 and 615 moments with Sakura can still steer things into NaruSaku and lead it to an ending with this pairing that does nothing to harm the story, Sasuke can still factor in with this new resolve and still not cause any harm. Again Sakura cannot just flip from Sasuke, she needs a small period of development to overcome and see herself honestly.

What about Hinata in the end? Well its not to hard to imagine that for her development Hinata finds herself able to lead her clan or does a noble love act like Naruto, letting him be with Sakura or placing Sakura's happiness above her own (this depends if she became aware of the other loves aside from her own, remember Naruto and Sakura are the only ones who know the love triangle but Naruto does not know Sakura is aware of his love for her.)

So yeah, lots of NaruSaku that can still happen, everything is there and kishi basically has 1000s of ways to do it, just matters if he chooses to. Many roads can lead to NaruSaku and still make sense of the story.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Actually this usually happens in fiction. Heck this happened in Dexter and Dexter was the guy who didn't feel anything. So yeah in a way it's better for NS that Sasuke returns somewhat at peace and ready to help the shinobi alliance win. But considering how important this love triangle was I don't think it will resolve in just one chapter. Maybe an entire volume?

Oh, you know that show? Cool. Yes, that's also true. Anyway, I guess we just thinking the possibility here and people are going nuts. As for me, well, I'm only concern on the future of Naruto vs. Sasuke: yay or nay.

[Beastbomb]

[quote name='Crimson' date='Apr 14 2013, 01:58 PM' post='454270']
"The fact of the matter is that she did not have the resolve to follow through with it in the end. For comparison, I could resolve to take a 30ft dive into a pool. I climb up the ladder onto the diving board, walk all the way over to the edge, but due to my fear, I freeze on the spot and am unable to actually follow through with the dive. Apparently that is supposed to be viewed as "strength and courage?"
And like you said, her attempt to kill him came after her realization that he was not the same person she thought he was. She knew the gravity to situation, and that she could not falter. And yet...she still did."

But your just admitted that your talking about someone fearing jumping off a diving board, this isn't the same situation. This is taking the life of someone Sakura first held dear and still considers to be a friend even after the things he's done to her. You can't even compare these to things becasue killing a friend is more heart-wretching and requires a hell of alot more emotional strength than diving off of a diving board. Failing to dive will only hurt your personal pride. Killing a friend could possible emotionally scar you for life, just like Kakashi was after he killed Rin and after watching obito get crushed to death.

Edit: Messed up on the quote

Edited by Beastbomb, 14 April 2013 - 06:47 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

Does anybody know which chapter Minato glanced back in?

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[Baguette]

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[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, I forgot Bakuman has a kiss scene. Yosha! There's hope for Naruto then. The anime however must spend a million dollar budget on it. That's right I said it!

[T XD]

But your just admitted that your talking about someone fearing jumping off a diving board, this isn't the same situation. This is taking the life of someone Sakura first held dear and still considers to be a friend even after the things he's done to her. You can't even compare these to things becasue killing a friend is more heart-wretching and requires a hell of alot more emotional strength than diving off of a diving board. Failing to dive will only hurt your personal pride. Killing a friend could possible emotionally scar you for life, just like Kakashi was after he killed Rin and after watching obito get crushed to death.

Edit: Messed up on the quote

Agree. We need to remember that there's friendship too. Sakura considers Sasuke as her friend. A bond, if you want to literally kill it, won't be a piece of cake at all. That's one of the reasons why Kishi has made Sakura doubt her attempt to kill Sasuke. She won't just flash the kunai and stab him then Sasuke dropping dead on the ground.

Edited by T XD, 14 April 2013 - 07:18 PM.