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#1681 theorangehokage

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 09:08 PM

wEll yeah, no narusaku this week :,(
but we have alot more action coming ad some drama with sasuke soo maybee it will come up

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Serenity Namikaze @ Oct 7 2010, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know if we talk about it already (we do repeat a lot of stuff since there is nothing new lately regarding NaruSaku) but here's a question :

In all the NaruSaku moments that we have ( manga and/or anime) what is/are the moment(s) that you wish to be different? If so, which one(s) and how you would have like it?

To me, it's the feeding scene. I know it mainly a comic relief but I'm sure that it could have the same effect if Sakura actually fed Naruto. I would have done something like this:

My version of the feeding scene --Click here to view--
While Sakura actually feed Naruto, she cover herself by scolding Naruto, telling him that he should think about his well being before acting recklessly etc. Naruto, of course, agree without actually listening all because he's too confused about the fact that Sakura actually feed him (and this time, there is no Sasuke or anyone that encourage her to do so). During that time, Kakashi enter Ichiraku, do exactly the same minus the feeding part. Of course, Kakashi want to tell Naruto that, in the future, he can't use the Rasen-shuriken but wait and watch with a satisfied smile, ( we don't see him smile but we do see the 'eyes smile'…if you know what I mean) enjoying the 'back to normal' atmosphere. Sai, who observe Sakura feeding Naruto, notice Kakashi's smile and, like usual, want to understand better the situation that is happening now and decide to say one of his unusual but oh-so-meaningful insight to Kakashi (Something like ' In that book, it is said that feeding someone could also indicate a close relationship and that the one feeding the other is open to develop a more intimate bond). Kakashi is about to say something to that when suddenly, Sakura, who was still feeding Naruto, stop (understanding the meaning of Sai's word) and say to Sai that she'll make him know the true meaning of an intimate bond when she 'bond' him with the nearest wall. At the same time, Naruto, still unsure how to handle the feeding situation, couch and choke almost himself with the remaining noodles, tell Sai ( after recovering with the choking ) that he should stop saying weird stuff like that ( while blushing ). At the end, Kakashi tell his stuff, Naruto still say that know his body better than anyone, Sai minding his own business (for once) leaving Sakura, with a pensive look, holding tightly the chopstick.



Maybe Kishimoto could possibly make a second feeding scene but without any interruptions this time around. pictureem0.gif

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 10:33 PM

i wish Kishimoto would do thst already.

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 11:14 PM

Right now Kishi is taking a break from any pairings development or trying to sequeeze as much as he can from other pairings. He's focusing on the story plot but I'm sure he has already planned the next NS moment soon. smile.gif

Edited by Gravenimage, 08 October 2010 - 11:58 PM.

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#1685 theorangehokage

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 11:54 PM

Lol yupp Grave-sama
I wish that there was more romance nbut this is a action manga not a sope opera lol

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 12:26 AM

what changed the format of the website forum?

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:18 AM

hey guys, i was just looking over the naruto wiki and found that while looking under the five kage summit arc, they have sakura's confession listed as a fake. What does this exactly mean for us?

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:33 AM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Oct 12 2010, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, i was just looking over the naruto wiki and found that while looking under the five kage summit arc, they have sakura's confession listed as a fake. What does this exactly mean for us?

don't care about Wiki at all. ANYONE i repeat ANYONE can edit it. So what do you expect, people are going to say biased stuff. Most probably its some naruhina or sasusaku fan who wrote it. Are you going to expect anything more from them?

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:46 AM

QUOTE (naruto-z @ Oct 12 2010, 03:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
don't care about Wiki at all. ANYONE i repeat ANYONE can edit it. So what do you expect, people are going to say biased stuff. Most probably its some naruhina or sasusaku fan who wrote it. Are you going to expect anything more from them?


i guess i would expect them to be a little more mature, but than again, i'm an optimist.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Oct 11 2010, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, i was just looking over the naruto wiki and found that while looking under the five kage summit arc, they have sakura's confession listed as a fake. What does this exactly mean for us?


It means that Naruto wiki is baised they obviously support NH and SS. Even if Kishimoto stated that during the confession he thought he was making Sakura as a "honest and surprinsingly determined girl".
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 02:53 AM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Oct 11 2010, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, i was just looking over the naruto wiki and found that while looking under the five kage summit arc, they have sakura's confession listed as a fake. What does this exactly mean for us?


Having trouble finding where exactly it says this, so someone probably already changed it. Honestly we don't need to be up in arms about this kinda stuff. If people feel the need to do such things then let them, and if a person based his/hers opinions on a statement found on a wiki then it isn't much of a loss to us.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:01 AM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Oct 11 2010, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, i was just looking over the naruto wiki and found that while looking under the five kage summit arc, they have sakura's confession listed as a fake. What does this exactly mean for us?


Nothing.

It simply means the person who made the addition thought it was fake. That's it. I wouldn't lose sleep over what shows up on Wiki for the reasons stated above.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 05:49 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Oct 11 2010, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It means that Naruto wiki is baised they obviously support NH and SS. Even if Kishimoto stated that during the confession he thought he was making Sakura as a "honest and surprinsingly determined girl".


No. The Wiki itself is not biased. You cannot call content biased. You can call the people who edit the content biased, since all Wiki-affiliated sites are free to edit from any IP address.

Which is why Wikipedia locks controversial topics on its pages, so people can't edit them.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 12:58 AM

If they wish to make crap up on a wiki then let them, nothing shall change. Naruto will still have strong love for sakura, kishimoto will still make the manga, and most of all: NH amd SS fans will drop dead at NS moments=D
Kishimoto is the only one who knows who naruto willl end up with and we have interpeetted this, while some of us (Nh and SS fans) still are oblivious to all relationship "points" so to say. Example, the word Tsundere. Some know what is means some dont.. But they imply that sakura will end up with sasuke amd hinata will be with naruto b/c she is a "main" character... Hmmm last time i chwcked hinata was a SUPPORT character. What is you take on this you guys.. I am confused in a way. Someone help.. I am confused about Hinata being a Tsundere.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (theorangehokage @ Oct 12 2010, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they wish to make crap up on a wiki then let them, nothing shall change. Naruto will still have strong love for sakura, kishimoto will still make the manga, and most of all: NH amd SS fans will drop dead at NS moments=D
Kishimoto is the only one who knows who naruto willl end up with and we have interpeetted this, while some of us (Nh and SS fans) still are oblivious to all relationship "points" so to say. Example, the word Tsundere. Some know what is means some dont.. But they imply that sakura will end up with sasuke amd hinata will be with naruto b/c she is a "main" character... Hmmm last time i chwcked hinata was a SUPPORT character. What is you take on this you guys.. I am confused in a way. Someone help.. I am confused about Hinata being a Tsundere.


Hinata has absolutely NOTHING as a tsundere she's the shy girl that likes the main protagonist I have seen this kind of character in other shounen mangas before. The tsundere is the girl that acts cold and mean to the protagonist but with time she starts being love struck or in complete denial of her feelings for the main protagonist (in comic relief scenes the author will always make the tsundere hit the protagonist to relief the tension from the drama).

A lot of the shounen manga I have read always has the heroine as the tsundere and she always ends up with the main protagonist Naruto to me is no exception Kishi is just following the usual main hero/heroine pairing and with the usual shounen pairing plot.
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 04:19 AM

Hate to say it, but you've pretty much hit the nail on the head Gravenimage, it's usually the formula in a manga and it seems so cliched at times, but then again there's something about NaruSaku that seems so much more special than other pairings. biggrin.gif

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:33 AM

Actually as Ciardha has pointed out several times, there is a great deal of difference. While they may use the baseline shonen romance trope, thats kind of like saying an elephant uses the trope of being big. it drastically underestimates the true development the pairing has had form chapter 3 onwards.

Quite a few other couple, have not even gotten a fraction of the character development Naruto and Sakura have gotten. Furthermore rarely does a relationship like these two have have the dramatic steps the author has taken to grow them through both trouble and good times.

The development is balanced, growing consistently in both tough times and good times, and always growing together or not too long after one grows does the other have a moment of growth and always in conjunction between the two.
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 07:18 AM

there is so much more to it than saying cliche thats jest underestimateing

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Oct 11 2010, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, i was just looking over the naruto wiki and found that while looking under the five kage summit arc, they have sakura's confession listed as a fake. What does this exactly mean for us?


The Naruto wiki is completely unreliable. It's so inaccurate on just about any subject that it's laughable. For example the entry for Shikaku Nara for example, has had this hysterically wrong gem for years: "Shikaku, like his son, dislikes strong women." laugh.gif Totally misreads the character and thus totally misses the point Kishimoto has made all along- it's women like Sakura, Tsunade, Temari, Yoshino, Kushina that are held up as the ideal type women for men to fall in love with. Seriously, I doubt the writers of these entries have ever read the manga. Not only is Yoshino an outright standard shonen tsundere (moreso than even Tsunade) but Shikaku is still fanboying over Tsunade in his late 30's (and Tsunade knows it) and he chuckles over Shikamaru complaining about Ino and Sakura, and tells him he'll soon find out why strong willed girls are best. Something Shikamaru figures out when Temari rescues him soon after. Shikaku teases him about his attitude about strong women when he cries in front of Temari and she gets "bossy" with him.

It's worse than worthless as a source of information, because it's so filled with misinformation that confuses readers. It's so awful that I'd love for Shonen Jump to tell them they are violating copyright and shut them down.
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 08:57 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Oct 13 2010, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Naruto wiki is completely unreliable. It's so inaccurate on just about any subject that it's laughable. For example the entry for Shikaku Nara for example, has had this hysterically wrong gem for years: "Shikaku, like his son, dislikes strong women." laugh.gif Totally misreads the character and thus totally misses the point Kishimoto has made all along- it's women like Sakura, Tsunade, Temari, Yoshino, Kushina that are held up as the ideal type women for men to fall in love with. Seriously, I doubt the writers of these entries have ever read the manga. Not only is Yoshino an outright standard shonen tsundere (moreso than even Tsunade) but Shikaku is still fanboying over Tsunade in his late 30's (and Tsunade knows it) and he chuckles over Shikamaru complaining about Ino and Sakura, and tells him he'll soon find out why strong willed girls are best. Something Shikamaru figures out when Temari rescues him soon after. Shikaku teases him about his attitude about strong women when he cries in front of Temari and she gets "bossy" with him.

It's worse than worthless as a source of information, because it's so filled with misinformation that confuses readers. It's so awful that I'd love for Shonen Jump to tell them they are violating copyright and shut them down.


I agree Naruto wiki is very unreleable like Cloud anyone with a IP address can edit the information making it sound like it goes with his/her ideas it doesn't necessary mean that the moderators of the site are that incorrect. But I think it's a little extreme that SJ shut them down however I also agree about the wrong information confusing the reader.
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