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#1681 Freakazoid

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:16 PM

I don't think the majority of things in interviews should be taken to serious anyway. Kishimoto is not going to give away key plots of his story.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Aug 3 2009, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt that the real interview because I think that the theme is that you are stronger when your protecting someone close to you.


Do you always "doubt" what people post? Seriously. That is the real DB2 interview.

The theme of "people accepting other people" is so evident in Part II.

Naruto accepts Yahiko, Konan and Nagato's beliefs.

The village finally accepts Naruto.

Omoi accepts Naruto is trying hard to get Sasuke back and won't sell him out.

And now Naruto is trying to get Raikage to accept Sasuke.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:34 PM

No I DON'T always doubt it just that the Nh fans use that too prove their ship and all.... I agree with Freakazoid why would Kishimoto give away key plots like that...

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:38 PM

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What’s the theme for Part II?

I want to continue “people accepting other people,” theme. I also want to put in ‘romance’ that I wasn’t able to in part one (laughs). It seems difficult though.(laughs). Anyway, I won’t give up and my goal is to give it all so please keep cheering for Naruto.


I don't see any key plots in there. He's being very general, and at the same time answering the fans' questions. Everytime somebody posts something, you immediately doubt it's fake. There are no key plots given away in his interview.

He's being brief, giving hints and that's it.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:45 PM

Ahem I think your right..And it just in my nature to doubt stuff ok with out the link to the original.....

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:49 PM

The interviews are official, and are from Databook 2.

There are plenty of translated parts of the interview online.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:59 PM

Easy kids getting a little tense. your both right honestly

The prime theme of Part 2 has been accepting others differences as stated.

the gaining strength through protecting whats precious to you was a prime theme in part 1 and has been an ongoing theme throughout the manga.

the interview is legit ive seen it myself. but I do tend to take such things with a grain of salt to be safe till is ee it in the pages of the manga.
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Posted 03 August 2009 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Aug 3 2009, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the interview is legit ive seen it myself. but I do tend to take such things with a grain of salt to be safe till is ee it in the pages of the manga.


I do as well, but this was very CLEARLY stated in Databook 2. Yet some people can doubt it, it's amazing. facepalm.png

Moving on....

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 07:17 PM

OMG check this guy out laugh.gif
Very zen like too btw
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Posted 03 August 2009 - 08:48 PM

^Heh, that was actually kinda interesting. Making me think I should attempt to do something like that after all.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE (Hopestar @ Aug 3 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OMG check this guy out laugh.gif
Very zen like too btw

Man, He used filler as evinced man that just weird Man I think I should do something like that too....

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 09:41 PM

fraid while he was calm enough his arguments were weak at best and used a lot of old excuses plus he had several contradictory arguments such as his opening about naruto being simultaneously laid back and loud in reference to sakura and hinata respectively amongst others
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Posted 03 August 2009 - 11:03 PM

^Well, keep in mind, that guy is a NH (I looked up his other vids, that's his opinion, though he's a bit more open to NS than most NH shippers).

Anyways, the filler argument is hilarious, the Anime team only knew as much as we did at the time. Even now, they only know as much as we do, though Kishi did talk to them for the last arc apparently. Still, unless Kishimoto himself comes out and states that anything that happened in the Anime Fillers are cannon, they should and will be regarded as useless and low-quality episode arcs that don't affect the storyline whatsoever.

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 01:22 AM

Here's an argument that I got from a forum I have on Fanfic. NOT mine, but a quote...
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Alrighty guys, here is an excellent, detailed description I found of why the Naruto/Sakura pairing is most likely going to happen. I'd trust this "rant", since it is based of the real Japanese manga and not the lame-o Americanized translation. Which blows. Well, here it is. Sakura/Sasuke shippers, try and argue yourselves out of this hole. Here's a rant about NaruSaku events are in cronological order..somewhat

In the beginning, Sakura hated Naruto, like when Kakashi interviewed them. Kakashi: And what do you hate? Sakura: Naruto! She thought, for the most part, Naruto was annoying. And yet, already in the beginning, we see that her dream came true, from Naruto's words. When he transformed into Sasuke, he said the EXACT words Sakura wanted to hear. "You sure have a large, charming forehead. Makes me want to kiss it..."

"All I want... is for you to acknowledge me," This sentence made Naruto realise why he liked Sakura soo much, they both wanted acknowledgement. Really, Naruto's plan backfired, and basically made Sakura like Sasuke even more, because of his words. When the real Sasuke showed up however, he just hurt sakura more-so.

Of course, all the scenes where Sakura begins to see Naruto in a better aspect. During the bell test, when Naruto suprises Kakashi by using the kage-bunshin no jutsu to capture him, Sakura blushes fiercely and says "Wow Naruto, you're pretty good!"

After Zabuza knocked off Naruto's headband, he got it back, even against a Jounin-level ninja like Zabuza. Sakura then proceeds to say: "What's this feeling...? Naruto is so..."

Everyone remembers the chuunin exam, and when that 10th question arose, she acted on Naruto's half. "But that silly dream of yours... I don't want to see it crushed." Not even concerning Sasuke's feelings about passing, she proceeds to raise her hand so Naruto could continue his dream.

When the chuunin exam reached stage 2. Sasuke was forced into a desperate situation. Against Orochimaru. Sasuke freezes up and cannot continue to fight. After Naruto saves Sasuke from certain death, he is then thrown off the trees, where Sakura saves him. She then yells at Sasuke: "He may be an idiot, but at least he's not a coward like you!"

During the preliminaries, Sakura was overtaken by Ino. She was about to give up, until Naruto shouted at her to never give up. It's because of this Sakura is able to throw Ino's mind out of her, and continue enough to at least tie the match. After, she thanks him.

During Naruto's fight with Kiba, Naruto says some things about his way of the ninja, sakura then says: "I used to make fun of those words, but I was wrong".Even more so, she says: "Naruto... Tell everyone..." then Naruto finished her sentence, which is again the EXACT same thing she was thinking, by saying "Don't underestimate me!".

When Sakura was seated in the arena for the third part, she says: "I'm kind of jealous of you. When I watch you fight, I feel like I have to do my best, and that is an incredible thing," However, Sakura shows no sign of interest in Sasuke when he fights, where-as she did when Naruto fought. She was only worried that Sasuke wouldn't show up, and she would think the same thing if Naruto wasn't, if not more-so.

During the Gaara fight, Sakura's peril drove Naruto to extract all sorts of chakra to save her. "Sakura-chan...I will save Sakura-chan!" When he was getting thrown around, one glance at Sakura gave him enough strength to begin fighting again. Afterwards, when Sasuke told her it was Naruto who saved her, she smiled, having no doubts. She was happy it was him.

Right before Sasuke left the village, Sakura asked Naruto out on a date. Of course it isn't a romantic one, but back in the beginning, she would have thought of this interaction to be taboo. Instead, she could have just told him the problem. During the date, the Ichiraku ramen guy (forgot his name) praised Naruto for bringing his girlfriend on a date. Naruto imminently shot up saying he wasn't her boyfriend, in caution not to get hurt. But instead, Sakura did nothing. This worried Naruto, knowing it wasn't her usual self. Naruto then assures Sakura that Sasuke wouldn't do anything bad, because he's strong, this brings a smile to her face.

Later on, Sakura went to see the 5 genins off, after she got throughly shot down by Sasuke. After seeing Sakura pained, he smiles, in an attempt to make her feel better, saying he knows her pain, a pain where you love someone who doesn't love you back in the same way. After Naruto said this, she instantly had a flashback of chapter 3, where she realized how she was so wrong about Naruto, this then changes her thoughts of Naruto completely. "Thank you!" she said honestly. Since Naruto was a very special person to her now. After that, Naruto made a promise that he would bring back Sasuke FOR Sakura, because he loved her enough that he would sacrifice himself for her. He didn't want her to feel the pain he had experienced. He really wanted her to be happy.

In episode 135, after Naruto returned empty-handed, Sakura, whose view of Naruto had completely changed, assured him that nothing was wrong, so as to help keep Naruto from breaking down. She wanted him to stop then and there, SACRIFICING her happiness (giving up hope on Sasuke's retrieval) so Naruto could be happy. Yet, Naruto said he would never back down. Sakura then grasps her chest, thanking Naruto again, for what he's trying to do. Then, because of Naruto, she asked Tsunade to make her an apprentice, and vowed that next time, they both would go together! At least this time, Sakura could watch out for Naruto.

Finally, after two and a half years, Naruto returned home with Jiraiya. Sakura is shocked to see him and instantly asks: "How do I look? Have I become more womanly?" She wants HIS opinion of how SHE looks! Afterwards, when Naruto disregards Konohamaru's request of performing the sexy no jutsu. She admired Naruto for it, thinking: "More than just his height had grown... Naruto, you've become an excellent man." After, Naruto smiles and says he has a new and improved ultra-perverted jutsu, while Sakura was still caught up in the moment, says "Yeah, your new ultra-perverted jutsu.."After returning to her senses, she punches Naruto like old times and says: "Where the hell do you expect me to put the way I felt about you earlier?!" As said in Japanese for romantic feelings.

Naruto then asks Sakura on a date, except this time, she accepts! However this time, they don't have any important matters to discuss. And of course Naruto has to pay, when someone asks someone on a date, the one who asks is prompted to pay.

Now, Sakura learns of Naruto and everything he had gone through/ is going through. She now states that she'll save both of them, meaning if they rescue Sasuke, she would do anything in her power to help him against Akatsuki. Sakura then finds out about the Kyuubi, she cries in sympathy for him. Naruto, thinking that she was worried about Gaara, tells her that everything will be alright, again, not wanting her to worry. Naruto says: "Don't worry, I'll save Gaara!" Sakura replies by saying: "I... Naruto... it's you that I'm-" and was cut off then and there from Naruto, who said in response: "Let's hurry!" A moment where something related to Sakura's feelings were cut off, some Kishi doesn't want us to know yet.

Now we have a new teammate, his name is Sai. Sai had been reading on emotions and remarked about Sakura's emotions towards Naruto. He says: "Sakura-san, it's times like this that... Hmm... How should I put it... You're very nice to Naruto-kun. Where those feelings come from is something I don't understand, but in a book, it said this-" and once again, was cut off, more feelings for Sakura that are yet to be revealed. Naruto cut her off by saying: "Everyone, it's time to go."

During the Heaven and Earth bridge arc, Naruto goes into his KN4 form, which he cannot control yet. He goes into this form after hearing Orochimaru badmouth Sasuke. Sakura was worried about him, a guilt trip ran down her spine as she saw Naruto trying even harder than before, just to get Sasuke back. She really didn't want to see Naruto like this, and after Kabuto made a smart-** remark about Naruto, Her emotions ran free as she recalled the Naruto who promised to bring Sasuke back. Crying as hard as she was, she ran in to try and calm Naruto down, just like she attempted to do to Sasuke in the FoD. Unknown about what that form could cause to Naruto. She tried to tell him things didn't have to be like this, but the sheer force of the Kyuubi knocked her away.

After Orochimaru retreated, Yamato sealed the Kyuubi. Sakura, seeing this technique, wanted to learn how to use the technique so she could help Naruto survive. After Yamato assured her she couldn't, she said: "It's always like this... The things I can do for Naruto are so small."But, even though Yamato had Naruto in a stable condition, she still wanted to help him, in any way possible. Because Naruto had always helped her. She wanted to help Naruto too. Finally, after watching Sakura's emotions run, Yamato says: "It's not a matter of big or small. What's important is the strength of feelings you have for Naruto. Sakura, I can tell by looking at you. In reality, you-" and once again, the third time, he was cut off by Naruto. More of Sakura's feelings toward Naruto yet to be released.

And of course, in chapter 319, Sakura takes a look at the picture of team 7, and cries. After the tear drop falls, we see Naruto staring at the sky, who said: "Cool, a shooting star!" Which then he flashbacked about Sasuke. Another scene that shows Naruto and Sakura are perfectly in synch. Naruto then proceeds to split the waterfall in half, which seemed impossible before.

I can assure you, that Hinata has not had NEARLY as much development as this. If you want to throw away all these reaction and emotions for NaruHina, I just can't understand why. And this is why I like NaruSaku, because they are perfect for each other, and have grown to understand each other

anyways, that's my rant about NaruSaku.


Not to mention the newest chapter, I think, just gives me the feeling that NaruSaku really is gonna happen. I'm so happy! lol
Not to mention this argument really struck true for me.

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 01:31 AM

Hm, maybe someone one this thread is the one who posted this? Eh...
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Posted 04 August 2009 - 03:25 AM

That a great reply. I but so too xD


Really, I can't understand why NaruHina fans want to throw away all of Sakura's development for Hinata. Who has had little to no development only in the booby area... No offense, I find Hinata a sweet heart, but I agree she has had no development with Naruto. So, why would Hinata fans want that for her serouilly I don't get that at all..."

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 03:34 AM

intereting note on the Sai comment. is that it was presaged earlier by Shikamaru in his conversation with Shikaku about why he put up with his mother Yoshino. To whit Shikaku replied that even the most troublesome woman can be gentle with the man she loves.
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Posted 05 August 2009 - 02:44 AM

By the way, what chapter is that Shikaku quote in? I don't remember... Actually, that's a lie, I kinda skipped a HUGE part of the manga, like, the end of pre-time-skip, and the beginning of post-time-skip. Although I still know like everything that went on... xD
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Posted 05 August 2009 - 02:53 AM

QUOTE (Seraphic Guardian @ Aug 3 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention the newest chapter, I think, just gives me the feeling that NaruSaku really is gonna happen. I'm so happy! lol
Not to mention this argument really struck true for me.

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hehehe, i agree with you too happy.gif i have a feeling also that narusaku really is gonna happen. if it doesnt, i know ill just die of a heart attack, hahaha

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 03:39 AM

QUOTE (Seraphic Guardian @ Aug 5 2009, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By the way, what chapter is that Shikaku quote in? I don't remember... Actually, that's a lie, I kinda skipped a HUGE part of the manga, like, the end of pre-time-skip, and the beginning of post-time-skip. Although I still know like everything that went on... xD


http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/172/08/




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