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[rocci]

@chatte
I agree with you.
Just want to say a tree need light to grow.
Sasuke part on sakura already done, next is naruto.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Look on the bright side people at least we won't hear anything from the NH side for a while.

 

You'd be surprised was talking with one yesterday actually.

[Iwantbuns]

I didn't accused you of bashing, I accused you of favoribg Sakura only if she dances your way and call her poorly written when she's not.
You aren't stating facts, you downgrade Sakura simply because she loves a bad guy and you don't like it. Big deal. Get over yourself already.
You can hate that chapter for all I care, but people saying Sakura is poorly written is just something I won't allow to accept some one saying because she loves. That's downright stupid.

 

But she is being poorly written. The one thing that was the most underdeveloped about her was her love for Sasuke, but now Kishi just messed it up. She doesn't like Sasuke as a bad guy, she likes his good side, and that's all she wants. But she's not gonna get it anytime soon. It's like Kishi doesn't care for Sakura, and hates on her through his writing...

[luffyq1]

Seriously, just imagine how much better the characters would have been if there wasn't any romance involved? Hinata not being the obsessive fangirl, Karin having some self-respect and Sakura not turning into the mess we see today. 

 

A guy can dream, right?

[Otaru]

Well we're not in his head and maybe the next chapters are gonna please us and closure this manga beautifully. I hope so.
I just don't want to judge without having the manga as a whole. It would be unfair. We can't say yet that Sakura will not participate, because the fight between Naruto and Sasuke is not finished. So no need to jump on conclusions.

 

 

 

Seriously, just imagine how much better the characters would have been if there wasn't any romance involved? Hinata not being the obsessive fangirl, Karin having some self-respect and Sakura not turning into the mess we see today. 

 

A guy can dream, right?

 

This thing about Karin, I was really surprised back then because Kishi made her said "I'm done" and then she jumped on him. I was like "what??"
It was so weird. It was making no sense at all...

Edited by Otaru, 26 September 2014 - 02:28 PM.

[Iwantbuns]

Seriously, just imagine how much better the characters would have been if there wasn't any romance involved? Hinata not being the obsessive fangirl, Karin having some self-respect and Sakura not turning into the mess we see today. 

 

A guy can dream, right?

 

That would be a dream come true xD

[Chatte]

You're right, but it's sad for both girls. Hinata is an obsessive fangirl and Sakura is too stubborn that she won't let go of a love that makes no sense. You and many other users need to go over there and give some tips to Kishi on how to write a decent and consistent female character, because he clearly doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
 
All the respect I had for Kishi is long gone and giving Sakura the development she needs this late in the series to let go of Sasuke romantically will not change my stance.

I think the matter is that some people don't really understand how love works. Remember what I told you guys around last year or so that it took me about 6-7 years to really get over the first guy I loved. Love doesn't just go away like that.. like Hagoromo himself said, love is a complicated thing.
Kishi basically gives the reader all the information, is up to the reader if he understands or not. Granted, Kishi could've done a better job in some aspects, but in this aspect he keeps it real.

As for Karin, she never said she's done, btw. That was a mistranslation..

Edited by Chatte, 26 September 2014 - 02:31 PM.

[BlazingDynamo]

Well we're not in his head and maybe the next chapters are gonna please us and closure this manga beautifully. I hope so.
I just don't want to judge without having the manga as a whole. It would be unfair. We can't say yet that Sakura will not participate, because the fight between Naruto and Sasuke is not finished. So no need to jump on conclusions.

 

 

 

 

This thing about Karin, I was really surprised back then because Kishi made her said "I'm done" and then she jumped on him. I was like "what??"
It was so weird. It was making no sense at all...

That's what I'm saying lets not jump to conclusions and see what will happen in the next couple of chapters this could probably be a good thing.

[narusaku256]

 
Seriously, stop these cheap digs and personal attacks. Its not worth doing such things on the Internet.
 
Have you even been following my posts in this website to accuse me of things like above? 

Get down from that high chair of yours. I have been following your posts and I wish to do this everytime but I ignore. But I am saying it now. Even you for one that Sakura has done way more stuff than Hinata and its only her love for Sasuke that makes her digress. Just look at Hinata...she is not even in the main picture! Its Kishi's kitten move this chapter that has made her do that. Blame the puppeteer and not the puppets! Show me when Hinata has been shown fighting as elegantly as Sakura? You cannot judge a character taking into consideration only one of the factors!

[Atheck]

Seriously, just imagine how much better the characters would have been if there wasn't any romance involved? Hinata not being the obsessive fangirl, Karin having some self-respect and Sakura not turning into the mess we see today. 

 

A guy can dream, right?

 

They would still be written to linger in the shadows of their male counterparts, romantically driven or not. You can rest assured that Kishi would find a way to make them dependent on Naruto/Sasuke/whoever else is important in their lives. 

[Otaru]

I think the matter is that some people don't really understand how love works. Remember what I told you guys around last year or so that it took me about 6-7 years to really get over the first guy I loved. Love doesn't just go away like that.. like Hagoromo himself said, love is a complicated thing.
Kishi basically gives the reader all the information, is up to the reader if he understands or not. Granted, Kishi could've done a better job in some aspects, but in this aspect he keeps it real.

As for Karin, she never said she's done, btw. That was a mistranslation..

 

Oh really ? I agree about you about love in general, and it's the same as my opinion.
But this thing about Karin, what did she said then ?

[elmas]

I'm back and did I miss something?

 

Seriously, just imagine how much better the characters would have been if there wasn't any romance involved? Hinata not being the obsessive fangirl, Karin having some self-respect and Sakura not turning into the mess we see today. 

 

A guy can dream, right?

I completely agree with you.

[BlazingDynamo]

 

They would still be written to linger in the shadows of their male counterparts, romantically driven or not. You can rest assured that Kishi would find a way to make them dependent on Naruto/Sasuke/whoever else is important in their lives. 

What are you trying to say?

[Chatte]

 
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M WONDERING.

Is not done. Kishi even alluded via Sasuke that she would've joined. So is not done.
Even the timeline of the events back in pt 1 suggests so. Sakura confesses, sasuke leaves, naruto makes the promise, vote, sakura says next time she is joining too. Just you wait.

[luffyq1]

Well we're not in his head and maybe the next chapters are gonna please us and closure this manga beautifully. I hope so.
I just don't want to judge without having the manga as a whole. It would be unfair. We can't say yet that Sakura will not participate, because the fight between Naruto and Sasuke is not finished. So no need to jump on conclusions.

 

 

 

 

This thing about Karin, I was really surprised back then because Kishi made her said "I'm done" and then she jumped on him. I was like "what??"
It was so weird. It was making no sense at all...

I used to actually like Karin. But to see her so easily accept such an unaesthetic apology after her life life was almost taken away, and to see her cuddle up with Sasuke just made me sick to my stomach. That is just anger inducing development.

[Chatte]

 
Oh really ? I agree about you about love in general, and it's the same as my opinion.
But this thing about Karin, what did she said then ?

From what i recall, she said something like... Sasukr even though I healed you, you still can't fight or something like that after which she says to herself something along the lines of how she should stop caring... It is one of Kishi's skewed dialogues, lol. I can't find the link atm, but if u look on Tumblr on kittenyeahsasukarin, you'll find it there all explained.

[elmas]

I'm waiting for the next chapter.Maybe next chapter Kishi will show us Sakura and her thoughts.It's so early to judge her.Just saying

[narusakuno1]

I'm waiting for the next chapter.Maybe next chapter Kishi will show us Sakura and her thoughts.It's so early to judge her.Just saying

You just read my mind, thank you!

[NarutoIzDaMan]

I just wanted to drop by one last time and offer some words of encouragement  but before that yes,  Sakura’s character regressed several steps back and there is no way to defend it but this was done purposefully (albiet poorly executed) by Kishi to milk this stupid “pairing game” that he’s been playing for almost 15 years now to the bitter end like most expected.

Remember, Kishi is the king of TROLLING and it seems like a lot of people keep getting suckered in no matter how obvious or  transparent he is. How many times in this series has Kishi made a character look so bad only to redeem them sometime later? Longtime Naruto fans (myself included) will  remember just how pathetic Naruto looked for about 4-5 years chasing after Sasuke, wondering if he would ever be redeemed in terms of regaining his sense of self  confidence,  pride, and honor (all of which he showcased during the war).

The same can be said about Sakura (during the Kage Summit Arc), many people questioned if it were ever possible to redeem her after all the stunts she pulled during that time but she eventually did turn it around during the war (saving Naruto’s life, kicking butt, etc). I guess my point is that within the next 6-8 chapters, something will most SURELY happen to redeem Sakura’s character once again cuz that’s always been the pattern with Kishimoto.  This story is ultimately about (in Kishi’s words) “ a boy named Naruto” and it will most surely end on a POSITIVE note.  

TRUST me, Kishi cannot milk this “game” much further (2 months tops before the movie comes out) without there being some sort of resolution. Although he is a poor writer, Kishi has proven that he is a master at flipping the script on a dime and will ultimately “ammend” any wrong doings that he has done with his main characters some way some how and the same applies with Sakura. I don’t know how he will do it but my best guess is that Kishi will make Sakura finally come to realize her true feelings for Naruto  and sort them out during the genjutsu she’s currently in and/or with the help of Hagaromo (ex. Flashbacks).  We’ll just have to wait and see but I’m betting on things turning out for the positive.

[Otaru]

From what i recall, she said something like... Sasukr even though I healed you, you still can't fight or something like that after which she says to herself something along the lines of how she should stop caring... It is one of Kishi's skewed dialogues, lol. I can't find the link atm, but if u look on Tumblr on kittenyeahsasukarin, you'll find it there all explained.

 

mmmmmm..... well I don't really care that much about Karin so it's not so important...