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#16941 Inferno180

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:36 AM

Same. I don't believe Sakura doesn't love Sasuke any more, but I do believe that she thinks her feelings for him are stronger than they actually are. In that regard, she's still stuck in similar rut like Naruto. It's to different degrees, but they both think back to the way things were in Part I (For Naruto, believing Sakura doesn't love him. For Sakura, still having love for Sasuke). It's exaggerated and they're almost in their own delusion because they can't really see things changed so much. I think that might be partially why Sakura doesn't know she loves Naruto.
 
However, I give Sakura way more credit than Naruto. Even if she still has feelings, she's the one between her and Naruto most aware of the changing relationship. And she's the one that's ashamed of her leftover feelings for Sasuke. On top of that, she's the one that is he most willing to know what her relationship with Naruto is. Whatever she feels for Sasuke, the confession did prove Sakura believes it's possible she could love him and might have feelings for him. That's what makes her the one most likely to confront Naruto at some point about their relationship.
 
Let's face it. If Naruto had it his way, he would cling on to Sai's explanation about her confession, still believe she loves Sasuke, and then never bring up the actual confession to her again. Avoiding something like that is pretty much what Naruto's best at. There's no way he would say anything on it first, even if some part of him desperately wanted to hear why she did it from her.
 
Naruto's opinion on Sakura loving him and how he lets those insecurities get to him so much bugs the hell out of me. It's ridiculous how much he thinks Sakura just loves Sasuke, all in those Part I flashbacks. Is he that dense or does he just not want to get his hopes up? It's ironic to me how the only thing Naruto doesn't have confidence in is Sakura liking him back. I blame the PoaL.
 
When the confession is brought up and if Naruto tries to tell Sakura again that she doesn't love him and loves Sasuke (which I really see him doing tbh), I picture Sakura getting extremely angry. He's entirely oblivious on things like that and Sakura knows this. She wouldn't like him trying to tell her how she feels, just like she didn't in the confession.

That's something i had a conjecture on.

Many say naruto responded to Sakura's confession as a means to protect her from the disappointment or moral suppression,

I mean it's one part naruto doesn't want her to force herself but in another, sakura was honest that she was concerned for narutos safety. Just to keep in mind this all occurred right before sakura saw how messed up Sasuke was as naruto did as well.

Really there's the aspect of naruto wants to confess but not have sakura force herself when he knows there was conflict. Really the thing to say is,both naruto and sakura had some heavy emotional toll that arc. Yet naruto isn't over sakura as far as 631 and 663 are otherwise hinting ns.

I mean one thing I speculate on is yes sakura possibly subconiously loves naruto, but doesn't realize it, it takes gradual moments to bring it out. This past event may have brought a bit more forward. But another deal is, one thing that's occurred a few times is the aspect of to shared pain, I mean naruto didn't know sasukes motives until he faced pain and understood wanting revenge. Sakura otherwise didn't realize the toll of what had come onto naruto and is now otherwise supporting him however she can. I said long ago, the whole lying to herself line, it may impact her more than you think, not that she cannot force herself to love naruto, she should only love him for reasons she really feels for, but rather just on the aspect of does sakura realize the difference between real love and ideal love? That's a theme I suspect is developed on her and given what's happened in the manga, did she ever really love Sasuke for who he was or just what he was able to do? That's why I think it's that sakura cannot force herself to love naruto, she cannot love him or accept her own feelings until she gets past this issue with Sasuke. In other words, is she cannot just love naruto,but does she also really love Sasuke despite all the stuff he did even trying to kill her? She doesn't trust him as we last saw and this pained her. She doesn't have these issues with naruto, only Sasuke. While narutos want to confess to her is something he feels he must accomplish the stuff with Sasuke before this. Sakura's issue is internal to her, does she really love the guy who has made a whole mess of things, or does she not love the guy who has actually stood by her and basically acted like the guy she dreamed of? Keep in mind, it's a bit of luck that kishis input over this event was actually commented on, I mean as he says she was honest, a girl who though stubborn means well, it's best taken as a hint of truth was thrown in there, she was honest about wanting naruto to go back, not put himself in danger, not just something to end ns no questions asked, I mean seriously if Kishi did end ns there, this love subplot just became more complicated than it needed to be with the Kushina foreshadow falling on ns, and nh still going nowhere and SS remaining antagonistic and like a cockroach that won't end.

The deal I suspect is that sakura is coming to love naruto but isn't aware yet. She cannot just love him, she needs to see that she loves him and have her inner resolution in her mixed feelings with Sasuke. Because there is one thing that sakura has unlike either naruto or Sasuke, she is the character stuck between the aspect of who she likes and who she "loves" and how naruto has gone through a lot, some just for her against what she feels for Sasuke who has caused all sorts of crap every which way. It's the aspect of their final battle and dying that will come back to have an impact on her. Because this event has been expanded on though, the fight for hokage, it's no suprise sakura would support naruto I mean unlike the others, in events like the Chunin exams and recently with 663 how many others have been given the notion of wanting him to become hokage? Where in the Chunin exams it was simple kindness, that deal on sakura has gone to the point, well she wants him to live just so his dream doesn't die. She wants him to be hokage now more than ever, unlike any other character in the series, that single aspect just defines her care for naruto. It still puzzles me why people even argue with her not caring or being mean to naruto when she wants him to live and achieve his dream. What way says someone cares better than supporting their goals? In the whole mess of this love triangle, least some clarity exists among the ns stuff.

Edited by Inferno180, 11 April 2014 - 02:37 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:39 AM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.

Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.

 

And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.

 

Don't believe me? See for yourself...

 

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LMFAO! :D


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:44 AM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.

Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.

 

And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.

 

Don't believe me? See for yourself...

 

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LMFAO! :D

I don't even see how is it an argument for NH to happen. Kaguya and Hagoromo are not even a couple, Kaguya is his mother, so I really don't understand the way of thinking of the person who did that. 


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 08:34 AM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.

Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.

 

And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.

 

Don't believe me? See for yourself...

 

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LMFAO! :D

I smell some incest stuff here XD


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:39 AM

@inferno:

 

Naruto rejected Sakura's confession for Sakura and himself. He would never want to force Sakura into something he doesn't believe she wants (still thinks happiness = Sasuke after all) so he wouldn't accept.  Never mind the situation was strange anyway like he said. But I'm also convinced Naruto rejected it because he wouldn't want something that wasn't real or was "second" to another guy (Sasuke) As long as he has lingering doubts and insecurities, Naruto would never buy a love confession or allow himself to be with Sakura.

 

And I definitely agree. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke and the love triangle subplot will be tied heavily into the final arc. I know that, but I still technically think the most realistic option was near-death for that realization. I also agree with you on Sakura's conflict with love and Naruto and Sasuke. She can't tell the difference between love based on an idea (Sasuke) and real love (Naruto) because not only are her feelings so different for them, when she was younger she really thought Sasuke was true love. Of course it'd confuse her.

 

 

@rocci:

 

Naruto will get a confession, but seeing him make a first move towards Sakura's relationship is hard to picture. He's so good at suppressing his feelings for Sakura, bottling all that up for the past the past four years it wouldn't be easy for him to get out of his "comfort zone". Even if Obito's history affected him, I'm not sure that's enough to change his ways. And there's still Sasuke. He's not going to even think about confessing until he gets all that taken care of.

 

It'll probably be Sakura. Because it's always Sakura. If we leave it all up to Naruto, then the relationship will never get anywhere 'cause that's just how he does things. :glare:


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

And the moments giving you those impressions are?

 

Not pairing moments at all. Its just how deep a hole kishi has dug himself in respects to sakura's train wreck of feelings. I generally feel Kishi thought he could handle doing romance, only to bite off far more then he can chew. I just can't see Kishi having enough ingenuity to create a way out of this mess of a love triangle


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:26 AM

@rocci:
 
Naruto will get a confession, but seeing him make a first move towards Sakura's relationship is hard to picture. He's so good at suppressing his feelings for Sakura, bottling all that up for the past the past four years it wouldn't be easy for him to get out of his "comfort zone". Even if Obito's history affected him, I'm not sure that's enough to change his ways. And there's still Sasuke. He's not going to even think about confessing until he gets all that taken care of.
 
It'll probably be Sakura. Because it's always Sakura. If we leave it all up to Naruto, then the relationship will never get anywhere 'cause that's just how he does things. :glare:

Agreed just look at the confession, the hug scene and the feeding.
The confession shows that he strongly believes she loves Sasuke and is right on it, and Sai in turn strenght the idea that she genuinely loves Sasuke no matter if he's a criminal or not.
The hug and the feeding, shows him being surprised at every turn Sakura does something affectionate to him showing to us readers that he doesnt expect Sakura to love him.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:33 AM

Not pairing moments at all. Its just how deep a hole kishi has dug himself in respects to sakura's train wreck of feelings. I generally feel Kishi thought he could handle doing romance, only to bite off far more then he can chew. I just can't see Kishi having enough ingenuity to create a way out of this mess of a love triangle


Those comments about an author digging himself a hole is not really valid since you dont know how the author is going to continue his story. Just because hes not showing activ pairin moments at the time doesnt mean that he made a mistake and doesnt know what to do now. He has the story in his head and is going to resolve the romance plot at the time he intended to.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:40 AM

Those comments about an author digging himself a hole is not really valid since you dont know how the author is going to continue his story. Just because hes not showing activ pairin moments at the time doesnt mean that he made a mistake and doesnt know what to do now. He has the story in his head and is going to resolve the romance plot at the time he intended to.

I guess it's still remained to be seen. Regardless, i don't have much confidence that any pairing will be pulled off very well.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:36 PM

Agreed just look at the confession, the hug scene and the feeding.The confession shows that he strongly believes she loves Sasuke and is right on it, and Sai in turn strenght the idea that she genuinely loves Sasuke no matter if he's a criminal or not.The hug and the feeding, shows him being surprised at every turn Sakura does something affectionate to him showing to us readers that he doesnt expect Sakura to love him.


It's more or less that naruto loves sakura but may think she will never come his way, otherwise he doesn't realize in other aspects how she does care for him more than he knows I mean kinda like the Chunin exams, he doesn't know sakura wanted him to become hokage. S does this mean when the time for the final fight over hokage comes, would naruto be suprised if sakura sides with him? I mean she isn't trusting Sasuke. Why should she side with him when the time comes?

On Sakura's end, it's that conflict of Sasuke who she 'loves' and naruto who she cares for caught up in what naruto tries to accomplish and the crap Sasuke pulled. If anything it's still the deal that part of her development can involve gaining the difference of ideal vs real love but in the other line of things,yes sakura has had development which has gradually opened up to naruto, but it hasn't come full force yet and only would when the time is right. I mean unlike other characters, she has been the one shown with hopes supporting his dream more. That's something unique for her.

 

Apart from this, there is also just plain well among the other pairings, whatever thought processes go through naruto's head and sakura's head, it doesnt change the fact that sasuke has more or less been an antagonising element on sakura and well she hasnt grown close to him at all, I mean if anything SS is as negative in love for this series as you can get. Also its just that, if one part of the story is maturity, well its not unexpected that perhaps when the time is right, there will be something like the land of iron again or naruto confesses this time and does so by means of no regrets, let the stuff go forward without anymore conflicts in the future, I mean if he wants to save sasuke and get his resolution with him, he needs his resolution with sakura by means of NS going canon or not. Otherwise how many of us are still on the fence waiting if at some point sakura gets the shock it wasnt sasuke who complimented her so long ago? Thats just something we antipate to be a build on the Kushina foreshadow kinda like 631 did.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:00 PM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.

Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.

 

And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.

 

Don't believe me? See for yourself...

 

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LMFAO! :D

 

There are not enough facepalms for this. :lmao:

 

If parallels are the basis for a couple then NS already won when 631 came out.



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:43 PM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.

Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.

 

And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.

 

Don't believe me? See for yourself...

 

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LMFAO! :D

:lol: that reminds me of this tumblr post


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:34 PM

 

There are not enough facepalms for this. :lmao:

 

If parallels are the basis for a couple then NS already won when 631 came out.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:44 PM

The one thing regarding Sakura's development, I mean yes like how many of us tire of Hinata only on Naruto, we tire the same way of Sakura on Sasuke. But at least the notion of distrust is a change. Its not to say she isn't out of love with Sasuke, its to say she is aware of how he has changed and she doesn't like what he may try next. For all means, its negative, she doesnt trust nor like how he may do something. So something I wonder is, how will this impact her if he tries something on Naruto? Thats the deal, does Sakura care for her "ideal love Sasuke" or does she care more about Naruto's wellbeing. While there are issues with Sakura's development in some places, there is a notion that kishi can actually bring a head to her own inner conflict, we know this is still present, its been there since Naruto and Sasuke tried to Rasegan and Chidiori each other on the hospital roof, the only time Naruto told Sakura to stay out of anything. I mean yes, the whole Sakura loving sasuke is something we want to see gone, at least her just forgiving and being friends with him after all these events, but the deal is, with her not trusting him, what does this intail? I mean she was just worried over Naruto nearly dying, I mean it doesn't need to speak love but yeah theres no getting around the fact that she cares about naruto a lot, just how much she "cares" isn't known. Really its funny, people bash on Sakura the most saying she doesn't love naruto or needs to love Sasuke.

 

In my opinion, until more events come forward we don't know how much Sakura "cares" for naruto depise their positive development and how much she actually "loves" sasuke despite the negative.

 

Though there is a lot that needs to be done in time, I can say this, unlike Hinata, Sakura has a clear direction, we can see that she has a positive aspect with naruto, no issues there, even for saying NS 'died' at 469, its still positive, she hasn't given Sasuke another thought, she hasn't even known what occured with him getting stabbed recently but doesn't change the fact that even with sasuke back, sakura has still bean supporting naruto mostly and thats why I liked the past few chapters of last year, when she was shown, it was her concern to him like 630, worrying that he would overexhaust himself by helping keep shikamaru alive, precatious of Obito. Sakura had fears a couple of times these past few chapters with naruto doing too much or seeing something as a threat, but she is just concerned, maybe overly concerned but still just wants him to be okay. its this same reason that the distrust of sasuke is saying like 540, its on hold for now but something smells bad thats all. Its like is sakura going to come to terms with something espcially if Sasuke threatens Naruto? Thats the big thing I'm waiting on, for her concern predominately on Naruto, for the guy she "loves" to harm the one she is supporting the most right now who she doesn't love, how will this nail her?



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:07 PM

One thing we can notice is that, throughout part 2, there hasn't been a single moment when she was not thinking of Naruto! Really, if guys want to have a look at it, you can, but literally, there has not been a single moment when Naruto was out of her mind. Even why searching for Sasuke it was Naruto, fight with Sasori again Naruto, Rasenshuriken training Naruto Naruto Naruto, Hidan and Kakazu Naruto, Pain arc the whole time it was only Naruto, and then onwards its just NARUTO!!! Not even once has she thought of Sasuke, yeah she has but only when he was infront of them and that 'whoever you love must be a great guy' scene. Again, whenever they've met Sasuke, its Naruto's condition that mattered to her. This whole war 90% of her mind is filled only with Naruto XD Her love for Sasuke seems to be for the name's sake now, otherwise I can't think of a reason why Naruto's always on her mind instead of Sasuke!

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:43 PM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.

Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.

 

And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.

 

Don't believe me? See for yourself...

 

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LMFAO! :D

 

This is obviously a very implausible theory that the manga already proves to be completely false, so what's the point of posting this? :confused:

 

 

One thing we can notice is that, throughout part 2, there hasn't been a single moment when she was not thinking of Naruto! Really, if guys want to have a look at it, you can, but literally, there has not been a single moment when Naruto was out of her mind. Even why searching for Sasuke it was Naruto, fight with Sasori again Naruto, Rasenshuriken training Naruto Naruto Naruto, Hidan and Kakazu Naruto, Pain arc the whole time it was only Naruto, and then onwards its just NARUTO!!! Not even once has she thought of Sasuke, yeah she has but only when he was infront of them and that 'whoever you love must be a great guy' scene. Again, whenever they've met Sasuke, its Naruto's condition that mattered to her. This whole war 90% of her mind is filled only with Naruto XD Her love for Sasuke seems to be for the name's sake now, otherwise I can't think of a reason why Naruto's always on her mind instead of Sasuke!

 

The bolded: That's not necessarily true. There are a few times where Sakura is show thinking about Sasuke, mostly in tandem with Naruto and how she wants to protect them both. But after the confession, that's when her concern seems to switch fully to Naruto and his safety.



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:01 PM

Thats the gist of it, I mean even for "loving" Sasuke, she still yells at him about how narutos never even changed his view on him despite just nearly dying at his hand.

 

Its just, thats the deal we like with Sakura, she supports naruto in most of the situations in part 2.


Edited by Inferno180, 11 April 2014 - 06:02 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

Thats the gist of it, I mean even for "loving" Sasuke, she still yells at him about how narutos never even changed his view on him despite just nearly dying at his hand.

 

Its just, thats the deal we like with Sakura, she supports naruto in most of the situations in part 2.

Well, even in part 1 she was supporting him more than she probably would really admit. Pretty much ever since they were named a team she's supported him. If her raising her hand in the exam isn't support, then I don't know what is. She also could have gone to anyone to plead for them to bring Sasuke back, but she chose Naruto (possibly because they were on the same team, true, but the point still stands)


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:43 PM

Whatever it is, I think its safe to say its Naruto everytime for Sakura eventhough she THINKS she loves Sasuke.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:51 PM

Apperently Naruto is the reincarnation SOSP. Even tho it's said he is Ashura's reaincarnation.
Also Hinata is the reincarnation of Kaguya.
 
And all of this is based on haircuts. So naruhina will happen.
 
Don't believe me? See for yourself...
 

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LMFAO! :D


.............. wow




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