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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I will go with my notion that she doesn't like Sasuke anymore and that what we all thought was romance was just NH friendship(haha). It doesn't make sense for her to like Sasuke this far down in the story. I believe she moved on.

It didnt made sense for her to keep loving Sasuke since the reunition arc during the 4 tails bridge, but she still loved him and it's shown that during the conclusion of the summit arc she still loved him it's one sided and an asspull but Sakura's love was never portraited realistically, look at Karin, she was betrayed by Sasuke and he was going to kill her if she wasnt saved, she's still there like a pet going after him.

@tricksie You know your theory sounds plausible, however it's annoying that the moment you're talking about could've been done now. But no Kishi decided to drag out the drama even more. The fact of the matter is that NS has become way to obvious to drag out the drama even more. And this is what annoyed me about the latest chapter.

Because Sasuke is going to become "good" again and will rely on his friends and it will depend on what Kishi is going to do from now on.
From my point of view Sakura is not in love with Naruto because still lacks a determinant factor that i described on my previous posts.
For me it's either NS or open ending on which has a good chance of happening.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 April 2014 - 05:11 PM.

[PhenixElite]

For me it's either NS or open ending on which has a good chance of happening.

Yeah the good chance of open ending...lmao XD

[HauntedCake]

Yeah the good chance of open ending...lmao XD

I honestly think kishi will end this with an open ending. I just dont think he has the ability to create any pairing convincingly enough

[PhenixElite]

I honestly think kishi will end this with an open ending. I just dont think he has the ability to create any pairing convincingly enough

Development/Story building wise too late for open ending, so pls....

[HauntedCake]

Development/Story building wise too late for open ending, so pls....

Maybe.. but i still don't think it will be done very well, regardless of what pairings he chooses

[PhenixElite]

Maybe.. but i still don't think it will be done very well, regardless of what pairings he chooses

What gives you that impression? the latest chapter? XD

[Inferno180]

I honestly think kishi will end this with an open ending. I just dont think he has the ability to create any pairing convincingly enough

 

Yet theres still most stuff hanging on NS, really all it depends on is sakura because the whole deal is still a mess with the other 2.

 

Nh is just to scattered, there isnt enough importance or notable way for this to go canon with what little development remains, its not been focused on enough, its just lagging in development.

 

SS is a bigger mess, I mean its either gone nowhere, or only gotten worse. The deal is if Sakura never changes, doesn't that just make the majority of the time of the turmoil she was impacted by along with naruto just a big fat bucket of nope? Literally, there is no way I can even see him attempting SS at this point without some lingering event. I mean again, the problem is why the most development on NS and she actually grew closer to naruto yet remains on sasuke despite the murders and not even a simply aplogy, i mean cripes, he apologized to karin and that was a once in a blue moon event from mr I want revenge on something everytime. Seriously he is still in love with revenge, now on madara for all this mess years in the making.

 

Literally both others leave conflicts to other story elements or just plain development and conflict otherwise with lack of development over the space of time this manga has run.

 

On the other, theres NS which he had developed and has potential and is perfectly reasonable to be the prime canidate for canon, yet the problem is, if it just stops at some point or is sidelined in favor of something else, then why hint or make such a focus on it than over the other two?

 

Its some pairing comes out of lack of development time rendering a weak exectuation.

If some open ended deal comes, then its just otherwise a waste, why bother reaction with all the stuff he put on NS anyways, I mean seriously, wasn't it one of the reasons for sakura's own actions in the land of iron? It gave her development for her speech in 630.

This makes the kushina foreshadow, just worthless, I mean if it didn't say "foreshadow foreshadow" then what was the point? To make a statement that naruto just had to find a girl he hoped can be his girlfriend, nothing beyond that? If we look at it like that, yeah he already did that with Sakura. Otherwise no, this just sounds stupid. Its not something that just comes and then gets discarded, no development does that. I mean we expect development to end somewhere right?

 

This means something has to come for NS to go canon given the most development, some resolution to NH, and some forgivness deal to sasuke but being friends with him. If theres seriously a way to make open ended sound better I don't know how that would make things better because kishi needs to end this mess better than leaving it for the fans to claw at each other and be content to their own prespective. Leaving it open ended is rather like the biggest middle finger I can think of, its like no matter what happened, just go crazy and get the impression that despite all the crap in the end, even if so and so actually did turn to another, lets just believe they did a 180 to another and just go with it. That sounds absolutely like horse****, I still get the aspect that after all this, the notion of sakura loving sasuke as if nothing happened all story, makes me want to honestly barf.

[HauntedCake]

What gives you that impression? the latest chapter? XD

 

The entire manga lol

[TouKen4Life3g]

Meant to reply earlier...

 

Could it be we have been reading the manga differently? Could it be that Sakura doesn't have no feelings at all for Sasuke and Kishi just made her somehow move on, "Off-panel"? Could it mean that the "girlfriend" comment made by minato and naruto's response was really true? There is so many questions to be honest, yet no concrete answers. Watch kishi just make Naruto and Sakura get together and do a flashback on how Sakura got over Sasuke

You know, that's not even farfetched sense. I often questioned if the end of SS really happened a long time ago. I mean the anime sure is ready to kill it off by having her stating former crush and all. I know it's from them, but still, it is a bit odd that they did it. The odd thing is a lot of parts can be argued as a team part, but I will think over when the time is right. It's nothing to think over but I find it funny that Naruto told Sasuke that Sakura is Team 7, rather than "she loves you!" or something like that. Again, don't think over hard.

[PhenixElite]

 

The entire manga lol

And the moments giving you those impressions are?

[Gojira]

Sorry for DP 
 

How does it give you that message if it is shown by her in a flashback that she doesn't have feelings for Sasuke anymore how do you exactly imagine that flashback ? And at same time you think its ok for her to move on just because of Karin's love for Sasuke ? What your talking about is basically the same thing it doesn't make any sense .
 

 
At the bolded . Are you kidding me here ? If not i think you should really reread all of part 2 or even better check the NS build up thread no offense .
 
In these war the whole time she was thinking about was Naruto's safety more then once , how to ease his burdens , his dreams . Please show me a panel of her doing that for Sasuke .
 
And about 540 first she says that she has someone else and she looks happy about that but then the guy says that who ever she likes must be a great guy and  the mere thought of ever loving someone like Sasuke makes her feel like crap  . The point of 540 IMO was not that she loved Sasuke "so much" but the fact that she ever loved someone like him made her feel bad about herself , but if you think this is a bad thing for NS then be my guest

1. I haven't seen her favor Naruto's safety over Sasuke's so I don't know what moment your referring to.

2. I'm just going by the context given. First of all the fact that she's smiling could just be that she's confident Team 7 isn't dead yet because as established by the end of the 5 Kage arc Naruto filled her with confidence again. The fact that she didn't want to tell the stranger who the man she was in love with was, reinforces the idea that it's Sasuke, the nail in the coffin was that he was specifically referring to the man she loves as being a great guy which is what depresses her and the confidence Naruto gave her before is clearly starting to fade fast.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yet theres still most stuff hanging on NS, really all it depends on is sakura because the whole deal is still a mess with the other 2.
This means something has to come for NS to go canon given the most development, some resolution to NH, and some forgivness deal to sasuke but being friends with him. If theres seriously a way to make open ended sound better I don't know how that would make things better because kishi needs to end this mess better than leaving it for the fans to claw at each other and be content to their own prespective. Leaving it open ended is rather like the biggest middle finger I can think of, its like no matter what happened, just go crazy and get the impression that despite all the crap in the end, even if so and so actually did turn to another, lets just believe they did a 180 to another and just go with it. That sounds absolutely like horse****, I still get the aspect that after all this, the notion of sakura loving sasuke as if nothing happened all story, makes me want to honestly barf.

It has a name and it starts with Naruto.
Okay NS indeed has the most development but what the conflicts from Naruto's side?
The entire story he demonstrated that he strongly thinks she loves Sasuke and does a lot of inconsistent stuff like wanting to confess to Sakura despite knowing she loves another guy.
Also Naruto never approached Sakura romantically, we can may argue part 1 in some parts like Jiraya but it inst taken srsly.
Look at what Naruto did on part 2, his moments with Sakura either end up with a joke, Naruto starts talking about Sasuke, he's uncounciouss or the conflicts are simply avoided like "Summit resolution"/"Naruto revenge on Pain"
And i'm being honest the jokes are fine because it's shounen but the serious points he always end up talking about Sasuke and reminding Sakura about the old days.
Naruto passed the entire part 2 with the notion of bringing Sasuke back to bring back the old days and it's showed on Sakura's side and she wanting to be like team 7 again before the war arc and how she shed a tear after looking at Naruto and Sasuke cooperating.

NS is obvious but there's a lot of conflicts to resolve.

As the "nothing happened on the story"
Well Sasuke did a lot of bad stuff to Naruto too and he still says he's his best friend and being honest Naruto is to be blamed if Sakura still likes that guy.
Naruto is optimistic and always says things to make Sakura feel better but he loses on the aspect that he was never capable of telling Sakura the things it need to be told like other heroes does with their heroines like Luke did with Cecily.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 April 2014 - 07:49 PM.

[Luna]

1. I haven't seen her favor Naruto's safety over Sasuke's so I don't know what moment your referring to.

2. I'm just going by the context given. First of all the fact that she's smiling could just be that she's confident Team 7 isn't dead yet because as established by the end of the 5 Kage arc Naruto filled her with confidence again. The fact that she didn't want to tell the stranger who the man she was in love with was, reinforces the idea that it's Sasuke, the nail in the coffin was that he was specifically referring to the man she loves as being a great guy which is what depresses her and the confidence Naruto gave her before is clearly starting to fade fast.

I think the point she was trying to make is that since Sasuke showed up in the war Sakura has never worried for Sasuke like would in Part 1. Instead she is showed supporting and worrying for Naruto. Compare Sakura now to Part 1, there is a big difference. In part 1, it was all about Sasuke but in Part 2 its all about Naruto.

[Inferno180]

It has a name and it starts with Naruto.
Okay NS indeed has the most development but what the conflicts from Naruto's side?
The entire story he demonstrated that he strongly thinks she loves Sasuke and does a lot of inconsistent stuff like wanting to confess to Sakura despite knowing she loves another guy.
Also Naruto never approached Sakura romantically, we can may argue part 1 in some parts like Jiraya but it inst taken srsly.
Look at what Naruto did on part 2, his moments with Sakura either end up with a joke, Naruto starts talking about Sasuke, he's uncounciouss or the conflicts are simply avoided like "Summit resolution"/"Naruto revenge on Pain"
And i'm being honest the jokes are fine because it's shounen but the serious points he always end up talking about Sasuke and reminding Sakura about the old days.
Naruto passed the entire part 2 with the notion of bringing Sasuke back to bring back the old days and it's showed on Sakura's side and she wanting to be like team 7 again before the war arc and how she shed a tear after looking at Naruto and Sasuke cooperating.

NS is obvious but there's a lot of conflicts to resolve.

As the "nothing happened on the story"
Well Sasuke did a lot of bad stuff to Naruto too and he still says he's his best friend and being honest Naruto is to be blamed if Sakura still likes that guy.
Naruto is optimistic and always says things to make Sakura feel better but he loses on the aspect that he was never capable of telling Sakura the things it need to be told like other heroes does with their heroines like Luke did with Cecily.

 

but that what I mean, these issues need to be resolved and its still within both time and space that these are addressed, ideally around the final fight.

 

I mean how many events have we gotten with naruto stating his goals or otherwise having reasons for why he just doesnt do something?

 

Those things will still be addressed, I mean it is one part maybe he thinks sakura is stuck on sasuke, but then again that doesnt crush his hopes, I mean isnt it also part that he feels he cannot confess to her over not being able to fulfill the promise? Its still the deal of if Naruto doesn't solve the issues with sasuke, he cannot feel right about being hokage nor confessing to Sakura. Yet we know he will resolve his issue with sasuke, so generally, its obvious there will be resolution for team 7. So its in some ways, it is given that there will be resolution but it must be brought out in the remaining time. Just going on the sasuke stuff though is the make it or break it factor like, we all know naruto will be hokage so how can we just think the otherstuff wont follow? It will be resolved.

[FireFox]

1. I haven't seen her favor Naruto's safety over Sasuke's so I don't know what moment your referring to.

2. I'm just going by the context given. First of all the fact that she's smiling could just be that she's confident Team 7 isn't dead yet because as established by the end of the 5 Kage arc Naruto filled her with confidence again. The fact that she didn't want to tell the stranger who the man she was in love with was, reinforces the idea that it's Sasuke, the nail in the coffin was that he was specifically referring to the man she loves as being a great guy which is what depresses her and the confidence Naruto gave her before is clearly starting to fade fast.

1.http://chatte-georgi...ce-blue-sunrise this is what i'm referring to .

 

2. If that is your interpretation of that scene that's fine i've already gave you mine . At the bolded really he was a stranger i don't think any one would gave a personal information like that to a men you just have met to think that she would have told him that is just ridiculous , and no it didn't reinforce anything . 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 10 April 2014 - 08:36 PM.

[luffyq1]

Maybe.. but i still don't think it will be done very well, regardless of what pairings he chooses

Same.

[MoonDrop04]

I still believe that even though the recovery/wake up scene wasn't shown in this chapter, it will be shown later in a flashback in later chapters cause right now the manga is currently starting to center around naruto and Sasuke's final fight with Madara.

So I started to think on how the manga may continue from this point with how Kishi will continue sakura's interaction with the war so far. I figured Obito and Sakura will teleport from the dimension to right by Naruto's side. Sakura will see Guy's condition and naruto would ask her to take him away so he could be treated. But then I started to remember something......

The six sage's ninshuu was originally used for the purpose of connecting people through chakra. And Naruto has now new powers that originated from the six Sage and ashura for which we don't know anything about yet. So I started to wonder how this might effect naruto and Sakura In any way and it hit me.......

Sakura currently has very low chakra trying to keep naruto alive, so how would she even able to fix Guys Condition from being permanent without any chakra?? It's pretty simple from what we saw naruto just did to guy and what he had done before in the past......he would transfer his chakra to sakura with his new powers to restore hers.

But considering the fact that Madara is right in front of him I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want put her in danger and out in the open while giving her chakra, so how would that work? It's pretty simple again if Kishi uses a flashback of Naruto's awakening cause by then naruto would have already gave her chakra before she would be teleported out of the dimension to get Guy.

Now that deals with possible Sakura moments in future chapters but why would I bring up the Six Sage's ninshuu chakra connection?.........unless it leads to a possible NS moment!!!???

While Sakura may be healing Guy in the other dimension with Obito, Obito may feel that Sakura is concerned about naruto fighting Madara while she is healing and not watching him fight. He goes on to ask her this which she replied she isn't worried in the least bit. Obito confused asks her why is she isn't the least worried about naruto? She goes on to tell him that after naruto transferred chakra to her his spirit connected to her spirit and hers to his. She says even though he is on the battlefield and she is In a different dimension she can see and feel from naruto on what's taking place so she doesn't need to be there physically cause she is connected to him .She knows exactly how naruto is feeling right now and 100% believes that he is going to win Cause he knows he can win!!!!

Now I know that this is totally ridiculous and most likely not to happen but I feel it as a possibility and feel that it should be open to Disscussion. So I'm asking you guys what you think........you think it might be a Possibilty??

[Gojira]

1.http://chatte-georgi...ce-blue-sunrise this is what i'm referring to .
 
2. If that is your interpretation of that scene that's fine i've already gave you mine . At the bolded really he was a stranger i don't think any one would gave a personal information like that to a men you just have met to think that she would have told him that is just ridiculous , and no it didn't reinforce anything .

1. what specific moments are you talking about exactly?

2. I'd prefer to look at it your way but the problem is that the person that's being addressed the one the stranger is referring to evidently makes her depressed, granted its not a pro SS moment but it doesn't seem to be doing NS any favors either since I would expect that since Kishi said she was being honest about her feelings with Naruto, he would atleast pop up or have some implication that Sasuke was someone she used to love as opposed to someone she's ashamed to love.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Same. I don't believe Sakura doesn't love Sasuke any more, but I do believe that she thinks her feelings for him are stronger than they actually are. In that regard, she's still stuck in similar rut like Naruto. It's to different degrees, but they both think back to the way things were in Part I (For Naruto, believing Sakura doesn't love him. For Sakura, still having love for Sasuke). It's exaggerated and they're almost in their own delusion because they can't really see things changed so much. I think that might be partially why Sakura doesn't know she loves Naruto.

 

However, I give Sakura way more credit than Naruto. Even if she still has feelings, she's the one between her and Naruto most aware of the changing relationship. And she's the one that's ashamed of her leftover feelings for Sasuke. On top of that, she's the one that is he most willing to know what her relationship with Naruto is. Whatever she feels for Sasuke, the confession did prove Sakura believes it's possible she could love him and might have feelings for him. That's what makes her the one most likely to confront Naruto at some point about their relationship.

 

Let's face it. If Naruto had it his way, he would cling on to Sai's explanation about her confession, still believe she loves Sasuke, and then never bring up the actual confession to her again. Avoiding something like that is pretty much what Naruto's best at. There's no way he would say anything on it first, even if some part of him desperately wanted to hear why she did it from her.

 

Naruto's opinion on Sakura loving him and how he lets those insecurities get to him so much bugs the hell out of me. It's ridiculous how much he thinks Sakura just loves Sasuke, all in those Part I flashbacks. Is he that dense or does he just not want to get his hopes up? It's ironic to me how the only thing Naruto doesn't have confidence in is Sakura liking him back. I blame the PoaL.

 

When the confession is brought up and if Naruto tries to tell Sakura again that she doesn't love him and loves Sasuke (which I really see him doing tbh), I picture Sakura getting extremely angry. He's entirely oblivious on things like that and Sakura knows this. She wouldn't like him trying to tell her how she feels, just like she didn't in the confession.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 11 April 2014 - 02:01 AM.

[rocci]

@romance
It's naruto who will confess to sakura in the next arc, not sakura.
I think his reaction when he see obito memory will make him confess to sakura.

Then again this manga is simple, it only need naruto confession to sakura and sakura decision to accept or reject it. Kishi can only prolong it.