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[TouKen4Life3g]

I wonder if they think we would forget these things...

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Some thoughts on main "points" of this movie by "spoilers" we got (don't say they are legit, but who cares anyway?):

Two years Timeskip... For what purpose? To see that Naruto is reduced to a Charasuke RtN style? He didn't become Hokage, so no reason for fangirls to appear on first because Naruto already had a full-herolike status after he defeated Pein, and village was ok around him - he helped to rebuild it. It seems only as way to new desing specially for movie that feels more like fillers are done.

Character progression they talked about:

- 2 years past death of Neji - Hinata not become more confident nor "stands by Naruto's side" as equal (Ichiraku scene and house of Naruto scene)

- Ino became role model? She was beautiful duiring arc of War and before, now she looks more like model for magazines, but that's only my view of her desing.

- Shikamaru... nothing?

- Sai... bigger script on his back?

- Choji became "big" again... ok, that's it?

- Literally nothing on team 12 or team 8 aside Hinata, we only got their desing in sketches.

- Kakashi is Hokage... okay that was intresting way before arc of War started, 2 or 3 chapters after Pein attack ended.

- Sasuke is vagabond it seems.

- Sakura ??? Only one scene with Naruto at ichiraku and 2 screens of her with Hinata.

- Naruto now is womanizer that shows kids some Martial Arts (lol)

- Temari as bodyguard for Gaara - way beck to Kage summit arc.

- Tsunade, Guy, Shizune, Anko, Yamato, Team Taka, Orochimaru, Kabuto?

Can't be seen though info we got.

Now something that went full OOC on this movie.

- Flashback about "wrote who you wanna be with if world ends" before T7 was even formed, not only a filler moment that never was presented in manga is given to us, but goes on OOC to Naruto, who before aknowledged by Iruka has only one person he liked - Sakura, and he not wrote her name there? Doubt it. Full contradiction to the original soures - manga. Has no other meaning but to be "fanservice/pairing" moment.

- Naruto didn't know about Hinata's feelings. But he does it in manga, he clearly remembers a panel with her in battle with Pein and he even cheer her up as remembering this. Full contradiction to the original soures - manga.

- Naruto never loved anyone, before The Last. Sorry, but facts of manga says different, by Naruto himself in chapter 3, by his doings thoughs the whole manga, by words of those who watched his way from different points of view (Sai, Yamato, Kakashi, Jiraiya, Minato and etc). But not only manga itself, Shonen Jump published the calendar where all fans can find a clear date when Naruto fall in love with Sakura. Full contradiction to the original soures - manga.

- Plot twist that caused flashback with only Hinata memories... Do I even need to describe level of how BS is that? 

- "You liked me only because I loved Sasuke and you wanted to win rivaly with him". I hardly belive that person who wrote this line ever heard a meaning of both "love" and "rivaly", becouse firts can perfectly describe Naruto's way doing things for Sakura's happines, and second can't be applied for two people, when one of those don't give a kitten about not Sakura in all means. Full contradiction not only to the original soures - manga, but to logic and sanity itself.

- "Woman's heart harldy changes" or whaever line - by Sakura. Ironcaly Sakura is a character who get most development (I mean logic part 1-698, from weak Sasuke's fangirl that had child crush on "cool guy" to the strongest kunoichi, that understands true meaning of feelings she got for both Naruto and Sasuke, who'm she loved and who'm she wanted to save from the darkness) and changes though the whole series only 2nd to Naruto - who is main character. But when she told that - we have different picture in manga itself:

- Sakura herself though the story and she even said herself about womans heart that changes with time.

- Kushina that thought of Minato as girlish boy with stupid dream. Changed her mind and fall in love for entire life with that men.

- Tsunade who loved Dan, but in the end, not only give a chane to Jiraiya but shows a feelings that where in her heart for that men.

- Ino - girl that went from pure fangirl to a grown-up kunoichi.

- Rin - girl that loved one men, but by watching way of Obito - changed her feelings.

And the only girl that stayed same from first introduction - Hinata, all around "Naruto-kun". Then is ther 699/700 - Sakura that regressed to fangirl, housewife (so much for the strongest kunoichi who suprased Tsunade, right?). Full contradiction to the original soures - manga.

- Obvious plotholes about Toneri's meaning to the story, Hyuga's part of it and etc. That only smells like filler.

I'd live that kitten about 110 minutes of movie that contradicts not only Sakura's character by stomping on it, for Hinata to shine, but on Naruto who goes depresing about Hinata being stolen, the guy who saved the world, suffered all kinds of pain (and LOVE pain to - POAL as evidence) goes bue-hue about that? kitten.

So as you can see so much of contradiction is being shown to us, that we can clearly see logical question:

What is purpose of this?

Show that 15 years of story mean nothing to author and studio that made this movie?

Show people how low Masashi Kishimoto think of his readers and their intelligence?

How gready Studio Pierrot to money of customers?

How a story that could give good massage to future generation - now being a victim of crazy fanatics of side character and got destroyed by their wish fulfillment?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Lol. News travels fast:

http://chatte-georgi...st/104320437006

[Rabbit]

I wonder if they think we would forget these things...

Kishi is so wrong. I can hold a grudge pretty long.

[AnimeGirl_123]

http://mantan-web.jp...200036000c.html

 

This was retweeted by the official twitter.. is there anything new?

[NarutoUzumaki01]

http://mantan-web.jp...200036000c.html

 

This was retweeted by the official twitter.. is there anything new?

No.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Kishi is so wrong. I can hold a grudge pretty long.

Well I meant the story. Like "Nobody remembers that Naruto did a lot of love stuff to Sakura. I'll be ok." Yes, because God knows how forgetful we are. Even the critic from top league university didn't think NH anything special, yet here we are, being lied. Not misled, lied.

[Nefertieh]

Well I meant the story. Like "Nobody remembers that Naruto did a lot of love stuff to Sakura. I'll be ok." Yes, because God knows how forgetful we are. Even the critic from top league university didn't think NH anything special, yet here we are, being lied. Not misled, lied.

That was actually a literature professor at some unnamed university. Which you could argue wasn't able to make a good analysis as he never read the text, only fed information by his student told him.

Nevermind what he said, you don't really need to be some professional critic to see how this movie is nothing but retroactive continuity with a love story pulled from a B movie.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Kishi is so wrong. I can hold a grudge pretty long.

PFft, I'll be holding this grudge on my death bed.

-50-60 years from now-

Grandchild: Grandmama is there anything you would like to say before you go?! like, who my dad's real father was, a dark, secret kickass past as a spy, hidden treasure, who your favorite kid was?! It was me right?

Me: Co-come closer, let me whisper it in your....precious little ear. -wheezing heavily-

Granchild: -leans in eagerly-

Me: K-k-ki-kishimoto ruined Naruto.-Heart monitor flat lines-

Grandchild: ....
Grandchild...........
Grandchild.....What the kitten is Naruto?! -Goes to read it-

AND THE CURSE WILL CONTINUE. Generations of my spawn will carry on my grudge after death has claimed me 

It will never end.  
 

[TouKen4Life3g]

That was actually a literature professor at some unnamed university. Which you could argue wasn't able to make a good analysis as he never read the text, only fed information by his student told him.

Nevermind what he said, you don't really need to be some professional critic to see how this movie is nothing but retroactive continuity with a love story pulled from a B movie.

That's not the point. The point is no one didn't NH as a real deal until now. It's like "Whoa, how did this happen?" Even in data books or works from outside of manga didn't think so. Now, of course, they will have to push NH because now it's a thing.

Think like this: in Fairy Tail, it's very obvious what's going to be endgame. That said imagine if the route change. No longer they will push Natsu and Lucy. Now, it will be the one that is a official endgame. It creates a mess that you left wondering, "Where did we go wrong?"

[NarutoUzumaki01]

PFft, I'll be holding this grudge on my death bed.

-50-60 years from now-

Grandchild: Grandmama is there anything you would like to say before you go?! like, who my dad's real father was, a dark, secret kickass past as a spy, hidden treasure, who your favorite kid was?! It was me right?

Me: Co-come closer, let me whisper it in your....precious little ear. -wheezing heavily-

Granchild: -leans in eagerly-

Me: K-k-ki-kishimoto ruined Naruto.-Heart monitor flat lines-

Grandchild: ....
Grandchild...........
Grandchild.....What the kitten is Naruto?! -Goes to read it-

AND THE CURSE WILL CONTINUE. Generations of my spawn will carry on my grudge after death has claimed me 

It will never end.  
 

Your life seems fun.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Your life seems fun.

 

But of course!

It wouldn't be any good if it weren't, ya know? 

 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

But of course!

It wouldn't be any good if it weren't, ya know? 

 

You sounds like female James Bond D:

[Don'tMindME]

Special opening for this weeks episode with new content:

http://www.tudou.com...ew/5O3HLHUziQI/

 

[TouKen4Life3g]

And they say Dr. Seuss would be offended for movies that fail to deliver a deep message. Now, its the fans of Naruto that would be offended by the series creator.

Bottom line: we are offended.

[Rabbit]

PFft, I'll be holding this grudge on my death bed.
-50-60 years from now-
Grandchild: Grandmama is there anything you would like to say before you go?! like, who my dad's real father was, a dark, secret kickass past as a spy, hidden treasure, who your favorite kid was?! It was me right?
Me: Co-come closer, let me whisper it in your....precious little ear. -wheezing heavily-
Granchild: -leans in eagerly-
Me: K-k-ki-kishimoto ruined Naruto.-Heart monitor flat lines-
Grandchild: ....
Grandchild...........
Grandchild.....What the kitten is Naruto?! -Goes to read it-
AND THE CURSE WILL CONTINUE. Generations of my spawn will carry on my grudge after death has claimed me 
It will never end.

I'll drag Kishi to hell. And make him read his manga until his eyes bleed.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

And they say Dr. Seuss would be offended for movies that fail to deliver a deep message. Now, its the fans of Naruto that would be offended by the series creator.
Bottom line: we are offended.

He would be offended by Kishi's writing.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He would be offended by Kishi's writing.

Oh good god, yes.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 04 December 2014 - 03:09 PM.

[Don'tMindME]

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Here's some Sakura

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I'll drag Kishi to hell. And make him read his manga until his eyes bleed.

Too late, Kishi already sold his soul to hell to get away with this ending!

 

You sounds like female James Bond D:

 

But I have magic rather then technology  and more meaningful relationships with my lovers.

 

 

Special opening for this weeks episode with new content:

http://www.tudou.com...ew/5O3HLHUziQI/

 

Oh look Hinata dresses like Sakura and now fights like her despite tripping over kittening rocks and JUST learning a technique Neji had way back in part one. So logical, much wow. very good. 

Also, whoever dressed Hanabi should be punched because those colors are awful on her...and the little pink bows? WTF. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 04 December 2014 - 03:19 PM.