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#16861 Tsubaki

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 12 2013, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Usually the sales of copies decreases in the last days of the first week. 600k copies sold in the first four days are many, but still within the normal range.


Ah Thanks for the explanation! I guess I was just making a storm in a tea kettle. sweatdrop.gif

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 12 2013, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
whaa... a NS fan who have becomed a NH fan after he seen the cover of volume 64? Or it's just me that I misunderstood you? :/


No, it wasn't that, it seems he was already NH fan before volume 64, but he usually doesn't celebrate anything because of pairings and such, that's why I kinda freaked out to see him celebrate this sales.... but well.. he's a NH fan after all. happy.gif


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Apr 12 2013, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry bit this is was Vol. 56
Reunited, Team Asuma!



MinaKushi flash back was Vol. 53.

Also remember that Vol. was about the long awaited alliance arrival.

That's true too.

Yeah, I can see why 56 got low sale. tongue.gif

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Apr 12 2013, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah Thanks for the explanation! I guess I was just making a storm in a tea kettle. sweatdrop.gif



No, it wasn't that, it seems he was already NH fan before volume 64, but he usually doesn't celebrate anything because of pairings and such, that's why I kinda freaked out to see him celebrate this sales.... but well.. he's a NH fan after all. happy.gif


All the sides are the same, whenever their favorite character get some focus together the fandom who got the attention becomes very happy and if it's a pairing hint then the fandom explode, NH fans are just like NS fans, prior to the Movie there was a big celebration from them, after the movie we were the ones celebration, now 615 arrives and the other side celebrates.

Is a regular transition and we should already be use to this. emoticon_monocle.gif



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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:05 AM

Well with things coming in the future with new sasuke, I mean going back to the most recent interview with Kishi during the time RtN was about to come out, well he said that the bleep (hokages) come back and bleep re-surges (was that orochimaru he was referring to?) well most important part is that he did confirm that the fight with Naruto and Sasuke's fight was still on, so despite this the fight is still going to occur.

Sasuke still has to have some feelings we are not seeing yet. Still a fight between them should have that impact on Sakura, that can be the big point so even if there is some interaction, if nothing else has been confirmed yet, NaruSaku could still happen during the fight between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura can be pushed into her own internal battle over them. It sounds like a longshot but the Naruto vs Sasuke fight could be NS ace in the hole

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 13 2013, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well with things coming in the future with new sasuke, I mean going back to the most recent interview with Kishi during the time RtN was about to come out, well he said that the bleep (hokages) come back and bleep re-surges (was that orochimaru he was referring to?) well most important part is that he did confirm that the fight with Naruto and Sasuke's fight was still on, so despite this the fight is still going to occur.

Sasuke still has to have some feelings we are not seeing yet. Still a fight between them should have that impact on Sakura, that can be the big point so even if there is some interaction, if nothing else has been confirmed yet, NaruSaku could still happen during the fight between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura can be pushed into her own internal battle over them. It sounds like a longshot but the Naruto vs Sasuke fight could be NS ace in the hole

If they fight, then Sakura could be the deciding factor, The only question is why would they fight? Naruto specifically said, that he would fight Sasuke because Sasuke would attack the Leaf. Now that Sasuke won't attack the Leaf, where is the conflict?

I'm not worried about NS because Sasuke has never really cared for Sakura, I'm just really confused as to what is going on in Kishi's head right now. Oh well, its going to be a long two weeks.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:19 AM

I don't know but since yesterday I start having some feeling that Sasuke and Naruto are going to fight, I don't now what will lead them to that moment but they are going to fight each other.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 12 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they fight, then Sakura could be the deciding factor, The only question is why would they fight? Naruto specifically said, that he would fight Sasuke because Sasuke would attack the Leaf. Now that Sasuke won't attack the Leaf, where is the conflict?

I'm not worried about NS because Sasuke has never really cared for Sakura, I'm just really confused as to what is going on in Kishi's head right now. Oh well, its going to be a long two weeks.

Also there's no reason for Naruto to fight Sasuke, if Sasuke acknowledges him.
Still would be a stupid fight.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 01:11 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 12 2013, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also there's no reason for Naruto to fight Sasuke, if Sasuke acknowledges him.
Still would be a stupid fight.


You can always try to assume something based on what happens in the story, there is nothing wrong with that if you're looking on the story in a consistent manner.

The problem with many fans is that they like to act as if they already know how the Manga will progress there for they end up most of the times highly disappointed and wanting to quit the Manga.

Sasuke vs Naruto is one of the most hyped fight and if Kishi want to stay loyal to his fans and give them something they always wanted, what is a Naruto and Sasuke face off he might find a reason to make it happen.


Also I don't know if this is only Anime or it was part of the Manga, but there was a Ep. where Naruto was asking questions about his chakra nature but Yamato told him that his powers will serve to enhance Sasuke's power so if we take that in consideration it was foreshadowing that Naruto and Sasuke will combine their strength to oppose a greater treat just like it was foreshadowing that they will face of each other.

We don't know what will happen bot if we try to reduce treating our speculation as fact we can avoid future meltdown.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Apr 12 2013, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All the sides are the same, whenever their favorite character get some focus together the fandom who got the attention becomes very happy and if it's a pairing hint then the fandom explode, NH fans are just like NS fans, prior to the Movie there was a big celebration from them, after the movie we were the ones celebration, now 615 arrives and the other side celebrates.

Is a regular transition and we should already be use to this. emoticon_monocle.gif


I agree! That's exactly what I was trying to say... that he is a fan NH after all, so even though he doesn't usually celebrate pairing things, it's normal that he has was happy because of this cover. wink.gif

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:03 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Apr 12 2013, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know but since yesterday I start having some feeling that Sasuke and Naruto are going to fight, I don't now what will lead them to that moment but they are going to fight each other.


Well that's the point, we see something initially but we don't know where it will lead, Sasuke is still a criminal of the villages, it was kinda hard to imagine why Obito became insane just over Rin's death, it was simple and very cliche, we have seen Obito's type of villain millions of times before. There could be some reason that can still make sense for them to fight, Sasuke fighting Naruto as a way to atone for his crimes? I don't know but they will have a fight non-the-less, Sasuke could still harbor hatred in a way?

We are more concerned with the story than NS (well nothing has changed the course of its potential), but this is a silver lining, I mean its Sasuke, his turning moment, the favorite character of the author, if he has something in store than it could lead to something interesting, otherwise it would be ironic if he used his favorite character to ruin his own work. It could be worse, Tite Kubo basically advocated the ichigo and Uuyru were cousins, talk about a larger troll.

So things can go better in the story or they can be worse with this new Sasuke. We don't know Sasuke's full feelings for now, he is still only doing this cause of Itachi, maybe Madara will reveal his side of the story and how he lived? Basically Sasuke has a deciding factor between his history and heritage vs the village his brother loved? Madara is manipulative and so is Obito, these may factor in. For now, I'm just looking forward to Taka and the Hokages going to battle, a 2 chapter release will be neat next time.

I mean there have been times when Kishi has done stuff we didn't see coming like Madara being Kabuto's trump card, many thought it was the sage of six paths due to him saying he wanted to learn the truth of all ninjutsu. It was the real madara and gave us a large upheaval, some thought this was bad when it was the real madara yet it fit the story well and basically put a god mode enemy in the story, so this makes things interesting and makes it so this will be one of the hardest fights. Edo Madara does give a sense of impossibility and unlimited power in facing the heroes. But that makes it something greater to overcome, well this is my opinion. Anyways like this, something good can still come from it.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 13 2013, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well that's the point, we see something initially but we don't know where it will lead, Sasuke is still a criminal of the villages, it was kinda hard to imagine why Obito became insane just over Rin's death, it was simple and very cliche, we have seen Obito's type of villain millions of times before. There could be some reason that can still make sense for them to fight, Sasuke fighting Naruto as a way to atone for his crimes? I don't know but they will have a fight non-the-less, Sasuke could still harbor hatred in a way?

We are more concerned with the story than NS (well nothing has changed the course of its potential), but this is a silver lining, I mean its Sasuke, his turning moment, the favorite character of the author, if he has something in store than it could lead to something interesting, otherwise it would be ironic if he used his favorite character to ruin his own work. It could be worse, Tite Kubo basically advocated the ichigo and Uuyru were cousins, talk about a larger troll.

So things can go better in the story or they can be worse with this new Sasuke. We don't know Sasuke's full feelings for now, he is still only doing this cause of Itachi, maybe Madara will reveal his side of the story and how he lived? Basically Sasuke has a deciding factor between his history and heritage vs the village his brother loved? Madara is manipulative and so is Obito, these may factor in. For now, I'm just looking forward to Taka and the Hokages going to battle, a 2 chapter release will be neat next time.

I mean there have been times when Kishi has done stuff we didn't see coming like Madara being Kabuto's trump card, many thought it was the sage of six paths due to him saying he wanted to learn the truth of all ninjutsu. It was the real madara and gave us a large upheaval, some thought this was bad when it was the real madara yet it fit the story well and basically put a god mode enemy in the story, so this makes things interesting and makes it so this will be one of the hardest fights. Edo Madara does give a sense of impossibility and unlimited power in facing the heroes. But that makes it something greater to overcome, well this is my opinion. Anyways like this, something good can still come from it.

Well the reason he went insane is because Kakashi promised to protect Rin and ended up killing her. Obito thought that she was safe but instead witnessed his friend run her into the ground. Hopefully, my favorite character has a good reason for doing so. I think that she was a spy. Ideas anyone?

Edited by Shadow1275, 13 April 2013 - 02:18 AM.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:22 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 12 2013, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the reason he went insane is because Kakashi promised to protect Rin and ended up killing her. Obito thought that she was safe but instead witnessed his friend runner her into the ground. Hopefully, my favorite character has a good reason for doing so. I think that she was a spy. Ideas anyone?

Since finding out the truth behind Rin's death is probably going to be part of Obito's redemption, I'm not quite sure learning that the love of his life was a traitor to his friends and village would put Obito's mind at peace. unsure.gif
I'm guessing Rin died willingly to keep the enemy from getting whatever intel only she possessed/knew.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:26 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 13 2013, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since finding out the truth behind Rin's death is probably going to be part of Obito's redemption, I'm not quite sure learning that the love of his life was a traitor to his friends and village would put Obito's mind at peace. unsure.gif
I'm guessing Rin died willingly to keep the enemy from getting whatever intel only she possessed/knew.

So then why did Kakashi not commit suicide? [Thank God] I wonder if Obito was under Madara's genjutsu?

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:27 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 12 2013, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So then why did Kakashi not commit suicide? [Thank God] I wonder if Obito was under Madara's genjutsu?

Because plot. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
If Obito was, that still doesn't explain how Rin died.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 13 2013, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because plot. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Damn you Kishi, confusing the crap out of everybody. 111193.gif 111193.gif111193.gif111193.gif111193.gif111193.gif

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:36 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 12 2013, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the reason he went insane is because Kakashi promised to protect Rin and ended up killing her. Obito thought that she was safe but instead witnessed his friend run her into the ground. Hopefully, my favorite character has a good reason for doing so. I think that she was a spy. Ideas anyone?


People suspected these:

1. The spy, obviously this could be due to the mist ninja wanting to get her corpse at all costs

2. Critical info/skills the mist wanted, she could have been seen as a major asset, this could have put Kakashi at an impossible choice to kill her to protect the village. Think of this like how the cloud village tried to amass power several times in history by trying to get Kurama, the 5 sage weapons, the buyaugan, and Kushina.

3. She could have been controlled and wanted Kakashi to kill her, his sounds odd but there have been mind control jutsus before like the henchmen Sasori had who served as the fake Itachi and Kisame early in part 2.

4. some speculate Madara planned it. Seems unusual but it could have been.

The spy is likely though, but we will see this because this was one of Kakashi's darkest moments, killing the one who loved him and who he vowed to protect, yeah it makes sense for Obito to be pissed at a broken promise and his dead love but its still fitting the cliche lose a loved one, go destroy the world mode. I don't think Obito should be redeemed though, I mean I kinda want to see a fight with Naruto and Sasuke uniting against Reborn Madara with the ten tails, basically I want to see them save the world cutting it close with the ten tails true form.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:46 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 13 2013, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because plot. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
If Obito was, that still doesn't explain how Rin died.

So do you eat soup with a fork now Bag, cause I don't see any spoon? tongue.gif

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:00 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 12 2013, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So do you eat soup with a fork now Bag, cause I don't see any spoon? tongue.gif

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Your arguments are still invalid. emoticon_monocle.gif

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:10 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 13 2013, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Your arguments are still invalid. emoticon_monocle.gif

Damnit walked right into that one. wallbash.gif

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:32 AM

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4/3 narusaku day , the day naruto fall in love with sakura <3

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