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[Popuri]

can you give me the link? what did they say about the confession?

There's nothing about confession. It's pages ago. Sorry I can't help you.

[Nar123]

Well as f**cked up as it sounds, Itachi cannot forgive himself and feels like he should be punished for his actions, he entrusts that duty to Sasuke meaning Sasuke had to hate him (He does a pretty good job at making him). And he also wanted Sasuke to get stronger so thats why he tortured him, to show him the difference in strength. Sasuke only went psycho because Tobi told him the truth (Not apart of Itachi's plan).

 

 

Itachi still kittened up though, he abused Sasuke phisycally and psychologically and made him full of hate

 

 

 

Shisui wanted to stop the coup so he planned to use Kotoamatsuki but Danzo steals is eyes, he runs away and gives Itachi the other one and kills himself in order for his body to not be discovered (If he didn't Tobi/Kabuto would have stolen his body and won the war).

Not all the Uchiha's were evil (certainly not the children and civilians), and I don't think they can "think" seeing as how they are the most emotional and loss ruins them.

 

I agree.

 

I still think we didn't had a full scope on how the Uchiha clan really thought outside of some key members, the whole massacre business is really shady as the incredible author forgot to give the readers the details necessary to make a conclusion out of the event

 

Nevertheless I felt the story was too much full of Uchiha wank, I wanted focus on other clans too like the Senju, I wonder how one of the most powerful clans ended with only Tsunade, 

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm a jerk as I realized now...

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Don't look if you haven't see FMA.

[RyohkiFan]

I'm a jerk as I realized now...

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Don't look if you haven't see FMA.

I don't seem to get it...but does it has to do something with Naruto never confessing to Sakura? (The Last doesn't count because I don't acknowledge illogical bs)

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't seem to get it...but does it has to do something with Naruto never confessing to Sakura? (The Last doesn't count because I don't acknowledge illogical bs)

"First" is your main hint. It's pretty obvious.

[RyohkiFan]

"First" is your main hint. It's pretty obvious.

Oh ok, I was kinda lost there xD

[LuckyChi7]

 

You didn't get it, SS and NH never had what Obirin had, Obito had legitimate reasons to crush on Rin since she was kind, supportive and believed in him, the only problem is that Kishi made Rin an integral part of Obito's life and forget to give a reason to this, I mean he could 've explained Obito was an outcast at the uchiha clan or something, nobody believed him or liked him, thus Rin became his only shining beacon. Explanations like this could've made his extreme reaction to her death more believable

 

 

 

 

"NH/SS had an excuse"

Sorry, no

Sakura didn't had that much of an excuse to love Sasuke, it was just there

Sasuke never showed any feelings of love for Sakura 

Hinata being shy is an excuse?

And Naruto's dense? Not really, he is really perceptive it's just that Naruto never focused in Hinata, and this is not an excuse after chapter 437 since Hinata lets her feelings out for the first time. Naruto being the super dense protagonist and having no knowledge about emotions is a retcon

 

Obirin is not that good of a pairing because Obito's obsession was never given a deep reason other than " Rin's was nice/supportive of him" and "he had a crush on her", as I said before the way to resolve this is to give a more detailed background of OBito as to show why Rin was so important.

 

However I still assure OBirin is above NH/SS because how they behave around each other, OBito and Rin genuinely like each other, they are supportive and have a good banter, NH/SS are static pairings throughout the manga, NH only appears in dramatic situations and SS shows Sakura in a pitful light everytime

 

I'll admit even though I support ObiRin and find them similar to NaruSaku, I do say they are hell of a lot better than NH and SS. THe only grip I have towards the pairing is the reason behind Obito valued Rin so much aside from her being supportive of him. That's the only thing that should've been solitified when it comes to their relationship because it does somewhat comeout as obsessive. The best problem example I can come up with is probably this page here 

 

 

 

That's probably what I can see when it came to Obito's undying love for Rin because she's always been there for him since the beginning.  Plus I know there's the whole well she had feelings for Kakashi, but honestly I believe those feelings of hers died once Kakashi told her how much Rin meant to him. Granted we don't see what kind of interactions Kakashi and Rin take place when it comes to post Obito's supposed death in Kakashi Gaiden. However, the way I'm interpreting the context behind Rin's  character She got over her crush on Kakashi and moved onto Obito. I guess that truly makes her a terrible since she moved on from the person she supposedly loved lol.  I'll be honest unlike SS or NH these two had legit moments happening in the manga which majority of it was during the flashbacks. That's another thing at best ObiRin had more development on their side compared to The  kitten that is NaruHina and SasuSaku, and they only had like what maybe 40 or 50 chapters in total out 700 chapters from the original series. Now to be honest that's just sad when a side pairing like ObiRin gets more developed  moments and growth then the main canon pairings.  Again their love-story was mainly occurring  (90%) during the flashback moments. Still a better pairing than the main qoute on qoute canon pairings. 

[Shadow1275]

our scars run deep that day, but scars fade over time. plus, it helps that bolt and sarada are the recovery ship, so we'll be just fine. thank god kishi gave us pity.

[luffyq1]

ugh obito talk.

 

[AHK]

ugh obito talk.
 

Speaking of, we need to tag team an itinerary for our next Lord Obito FC meeting. So far I've got:

1.) Warm welcome, including cookies and milk.
2.) Get scolded by Naruko for destroying kitchen in process of trying to make cookies
3.) Talk about Lord Obito, and how his experiences have changed our outlook on the concept of morality and hatred
4.) Ask for Lord Obito's forgiveness for not being as cool a guy as him
5.) Run around the neighborhood wearing Lord Obito goggle replicas (we're not powerful enough to wear the originals, were simply mere mortals)

That's all I got for now. As VP Luffy, do you have any further additions to our schedule?

[Nar123]

 

I'll admit even though I support ObiRin and find them similar to NaruSaku, I do say they are hell of a lot better than NH and SS. THe only grip I have towards the pairing is the reason behind Obito valued Rin so much aside from her being supportive of him. That's the only thing that should've been solitified when it comes to their relationship because it does somewhat comeout as obsessive. The best problem example I can come up with is probably this page here 

 

 

 

That's probably what I can see when it came to Obito's undying love for Rin because she's always been there for him since the beginning.  Plus I know there's the whole well she had feelings for Kakashi, but honestly I believe those feelings of hers died once Kakashi told her how much Rin meant to him. Granted we don't see what kind of interactions Kakashi and Rin take place when it comes to post Obito's supposed death in Kakashi Gaiden. However, the way I'm interpreting the context behind Rin's  character She got over her crush on Kakashi and moved onto Obito. I guess that truly makes her a terrible since she moved on from the person she supposedly loved lol.  I'll be honest unlike SS or NH these two had legit moments happening in the manga which majority of it was during the flashbacks. That's another thing at best ObiRin had more development on their side compared to The  kitten that is NaruHina and SasuSaku, and they only had like what maybe 40 or 50 chapters in total out 700 chapters from the original series. Now to be honest that's just sad when a side pairing like ObiRin gets more developed  moments and growth then the main canon pairings.  Again their love-story was mainly occurring  (90%) during the flashback moments. Still a better pairing than the main qoute on qoute canon pairings. 

 

Yeah, pretty much this

 

But I believe his love towards Rin could be better justified if his background was more explored, instead we only got a few chapters that detailed little of how Obito's life was in konoha

As I said for example if Obito was neglected by his clan thanks to his weakness, and Rin turned out to be the only person there for him the whole time I would be able to understand better why he reacted like he did upon her death

 

 

ugh obito talk.

 

 

Everybody knows you are Lord Obito #1 fan, luffy!

Stop being tsundere

[AHK]

Yeah, pretty much this
 
But I believe his love towards Rin could be better justified if his background was more explored, instead we only got a few chapters that detailed little of how Obito's life was in konoha
As I said for example if Obito was neglected by his clan thanks to his weakness, and Rin turned out to be the only person there for him the whole time I would be able to understand better why he reacted like he did upon her death
 
Everybody knows you are Lord Obito #1 fan, luffy!
Stop being tsundere

Number two!!!!!!!

[Popuri]

Wait, wait. AHK and Luffyq1 are going to Tokyo, Japan for real? 

[Gaara's hair]

[AHK]

Wait, wait. AHK and Luffyq1 are going to Tokyo, Japan for real?

Yup, and we'll be wearing our Lord Obito replica goggles!

Edited by AHK, 15 April 2015 - 01:11 AM.

[Nar123]

Wait, wait. AHK and Luffyq1 are going to Tokyo, Japan for real? 

 

Yes they are

 

They are hunting down Ramen for badmouthing OP

 

Hey @AHK, since you are going there, make a little detour to kishi's house and give him a "present"

[RyohkiFan]

Wait, wait. AHK and Luffyq1 are going to Tokyo, Japan for real? 

[AHK]

Yes they are
 
They are hunting down Ramen for badmouthing OP
 
Hey @AHK, since you are going there, make a little detour to kishi's house and give him a "present"

Idk if we'll have time, were supposed to be helping out Ramen with some issue about his Hinata cosplaying . That comes before us going to that OP theme park thing

[Popuri]

 

 

Yup, and we'll be wearing our Lord Obito replica goggles!

 

 

 

Yes they are

 

They are hunting down Ramen for badmouthing OP

 

Hey @AHK, since you are going there, make a little detour to kishi's house and give him a "present"

 

 

 

 

But I'm asking seriously, guys

[Tiller]

He didn't sacrifice his clan for Sasuke, Sasuke had nothing to do with the massacre and Itachi's motives regarding. Itachi spared Sasuke because he couldn't bring himself to kill Sasuke. He sacrificed the Uchiha for Konoha, and spared Sasuke for Sasuke. 

Yeah. Itachi requested that Sasuke would be spared, it was his only stipulation to take the job of killing his family and keeping peace.

 

It's hinted later on the Itachi was a child solider during a war (I'm not sure which maybe against the Sand?) and during the 9 tails attacked. After that he became dedicated to the idea of peace, so when his entire clan planned on starting a war he wanted to stop them because he wanted to save as many people's lives that he could no matter who they were. Most of the Uchiha are shown to have an idea of "clan first" no mater the cost, but Itachi rejected that.

 

Of course originally Itachi was just a mass murdering kitten who took the fact that he was the outcast of the Uchiha clan by killing them all, but you know..... Retcons and Naruto go hand in hand.