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#1661 Gravenimage

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 08:28 AM

You guys should take a look at this. This picture is taken from the Naruto Shippuden 2011 calendar, besides the picture being very cute and sexy take a look at Sakura and what she's holding its just like that beach ending (maybe I should post a thread about this).

NOTE: I know the site where I got the picture is not appropiate.


*Nate River: Link deleted. I don't care that the art wasn't porngraphic, the rest of the site and the second I clicked on the link I saw explicit material. Inappropriate for the main forum.


Sakura is holding a can of Narutonic water and she's winking in the picture as she holds the can, she's the only one holding a can. Looks like Kishi is giving us another hint of NS right obviously the can represents Naruto.

Edited by Nate River, 13 October 2010 - 02:24 AM.

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#1662 Dario

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 10:09 AM

Hello everyone, this is my first post in this awesome forum!

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Oct 4 2010, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so, does anyone really think sai misunderstood naruto's feelings for sakura?


I don't see how anyone could come to this conclusion. As far as I'm concerned Naruto's feelings for Sakura are pretty clear and hard to deny. Sai couldn't possibly have misunderstood Naruto's feelings, because Naruto implicitely confirmed them. It's a simple matter of following the conversation: Sai asks him if he likes Sakura and if he told her how he feels, Naruto acts flustered and blushes due to how sudden and intimate the question is, then he says "how could I...". It's really obvious: it's supposed to be "how could I confess, I can't even keep my promises".

I don't buy that "how could I tell her she's my friend" interpretation, it's just too farfetched and feels more like purposefully trying to find a way around an undesirable fact than just reading the manga the way it's intended to be read. Because why would Naruto even tell Sakura he thinks of her as a friend? They ACT like friends constantly. If he really felt unworthy of her friendship, he wouldn't hang out with her or make small talk or anything of the sorts. As I said it doesn't make any sense.

So, really, denying Naruto's feelings at this point seem pretty pointless. The real question is: what are Sakura's feelings for Naruto? And it's true that confession threw a wrench into the whole thing. If she really doesn't like Naruto that way, then what does she feel? Is it really simply siblings love? What separates that supposed siblings love from romantic love then? Is it only physical attraction, which is why NS can't happen? This seems like a pretty weak reason, especially as on a couple of occasions Sakura was shown to be pretty attracted to Naruto, like when she first saw him after the timeskip, or recently when she watched him sleep with the cliche "he looks cute when asleep" look on her face. So really, I want Sakura to come clean and put into words the feelings she has for Naruto. Because even haters will admit she cares a great deal for him.

Anyway, I still have hopes for NaruSaku. I still think it's the pairing that makes the most sense storywise (I'll elaborate on that later if anyone's interested), but it doesn't mean it's going to be canon 100%, or that you should stop enjoying it even if it doesn't happen. I know even if they don't end up together, I'll still like it in fanon. So relax people, and just enjoy the ride.

#1663 holy_demon

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 12:06 PM

@gravenimage: lol ....... you could have used the image address, it uses direct ip address, not domain name
http://195.242.152.2...ulio_Agosto.jpg

And you're a pervert. That site is pretty hardcore among the *ahem* admirers of the art (yeah I'm being hypocrite) tongue.gif

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So, really, denying Naruto's feelings at this point seem pretty pointless. The real question is: what are Sakura's feelings for Naruto? And it's true that confession threw a wrench into the whole thing. If she really doesn't like Naruto that way, then what does she feel? Is it really simply siblings love? What separates that supposed siblings love from romantic love then? Is it only physical attraction, which is why NS can't happen? This seems like a pretty weak reason, especially as on a couple of occasions Sakura was shown to be pretty attracted to Naruto, like when she first saw him after the timeskip, or recently when she watched him sleep with the cliche "he looks cute when asleep" look on her face. So really, I want Sakura to come clean and put into words the feelings she has for Naruto. Because even haters will admit she cares a great deal for him.


Personally I feel that Sakura's confession is gonna be used as plot twist, because many of her actions were outright stupid, careless, emotion-driven, and extremely OOC. (this coming from many pro-Sakura, including me). There's absolutely no viable reason of her shameless confession, her hesitation in killing both Sasuke and Karin, her teammate's betrayal, and her general deviation of a wellcrafted plan (Shikamaru suggested it) , except for very bad writing, or that she was really in love with Naruto.

I'd rather take the second option.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 03:13 PM

Guys, I don't think this calendar pic is a good thing to talk about, because first, it's made by the anime team, therefore not canon (the anime team only gives fanservice and their interpretation of the manga, like when they made that ending with Sakura crossing Sasuke's name out on the beach, and we saw later it didn't mean anything), and then, Sakura is rubbing her cheek against the Sasuke side of the soda can (there's two sides on the can, the orange one is Naruto's silhouette, and the blue side is Sasuke's). So it's really not in favor of NaruSaku at all.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Dario @ Oct 5 2010, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys, I don't think this calendar pic is a good thing to talk about, because first, it's made by the anime team, therefore not canon (the anime team only gives fanservice and their interpretation of the manga, like when they made that ending with Sakura crossing Sasuke's name out on the beach, and we saw later it didn't mean anything), and then, Sakura is rubbing her cheek against the Sasuke side of the soda can (there's two sides on the can, the orange one is Naruto's silhouette, and the blue side is Sasuke's). So it's really not in favor of NaruSaku at all.

we know that but its fun to think about a_shifty.gif


Gravenimage@ the perv stupid.gif

Edited by hypno toad, 05 October 2010 - 03:24 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2010 - 05:48 PM

As if I'm the only one who goes to those kinds of sites. fu.png
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Oct 5 2010, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As if I'm the only one who goes to those kinds of sites. fu.png


Well it's not like no one ever had gone to this sites to see doujins were Naruto and Sakura do things that will eventually lead them into some parenthood issues. fu.png What? Why are you guys looking at me like that? a_shifty.gif

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (alexander @ Oct 5 2010, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it's not like no one ever had gone to this sites to see doujins were Naruto and Sakura do things that will eventually lead them into some parenthood issues. fu.png What? Why are you guys looking at me like that? a_shifty.gif



nosebleed8rx.gif ummm I .... I DO NOT argh1.png

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 07:40 PM

Hahaha you guys make me lol to much... I cant wait till next chapter comes out this week. I think it was Thursady, but i am almost a 99.99% sure my prediction of them going back to the village may end up happeni g or madara is gonna fight with naruto... What is your take on this people. I personally want them go to back to the village.... And Kishimoto will say false information in interview. But NH fans will be all over those sleep.gif... lol but i like narusaku.com, it is way better than narutofandom because this doesnt have soo many NH fans going crazy over a word hinata says.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (theorangehokage @ Oct 5 2010, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But NH fans will be all over those sleep.gif... lol but i like narusaku.com, it is way better than narutofandom because this doesnt have soo many NH fans going crazy over a word hinata says.


We have some.. err..

"Fans" of NS here as well. Some on par or exceeds the NH fanbase in "rabidness".

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 08:48 PM

anyone know how to delete a post?

Edited by maliousdei, 05 October 2010 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2010 - 09:11 PM

cloud you too funny...  lol... They are some of those fans. But i like the Ns fanbase better because just about everyone is "chill" about the pairin and not obseesing over it. Ns(in my opinion) will prevail.
And maliousdei, to delete you just clicl the delte button in bottom right hand corner by the edit button =D
and i would also like to ask something too:
Why/How/What makes you guys like "tick" as fellow NS fans? That is a question most NH fans on youtube ask
and as for the whole confession thing, it can be interpretted many ways good or bad. But i thought she was saying what was the truth and i think kishimoto may reveal that in the upcomeing few chapter i hope.... I mean like Hinata's role isnt going to be that major and it never was from the begining. SasukexSakura is still in the game. Sakura still must decide who to choose. And i think it shall be naruto... And i dont want sasuke nor naruto dieng or kakshi but if it must be, them let it be sasule b/c he hates konoha and all people included SAKURA... No offense to anyone but i am just sayin.. And also NS is a "complementary" couple so to say... They both complement each other in all ways possible and the whole brother sister love, i think that is just down right trash. If it was that type of love then why is narutp and sakura showing this much affection towards eachother up till now?
Hinata=side character to support the outcome of the series not a main character. She is only a character to Admire Naruto not be in a relationship with him.its true that she loves him but that is an admiration in
my opinion(no offense).. Shonen manga= main to main character love
Sasuke= an important character but not a main b/c tthe two main characters are Naruto and Sakura.. And espicailly now in part 2 sasuke it getting a little less screen time(only if you read up to 511).. Sasuke was just as Hinata, to support main character but he was an important piece to the plot in part one but not as much in part 2... What do you think u guys?

Edited by theorangehokage, 05 October 2010 - 10:54 PM.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (theorangehokage @ Oct 5 2010, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why/How/What makes you guys like "tick" as fellow NS fans? That is a question most NH fans on youtube ask
and as for the whole confession thing, it can be interpretted many ways good or bad. But i thought she was saying what was the truth and i think kishimoto may reveal that in the upcomeing few chapter i hope.... I mean like Hinata's role isnt going to be that major and it never was from the begining. SasukexSakura is still in the game. Sakura still must decide who to choose. And i think it shall be naruto... And i dont want sasuke nor naruto dieng or kakshi but if it must be, them let it be sasule b/c he hates konoha and all people included SAKURA... No offense to anyone but i am just sayin.. And also NS is a "complementary" couple so to say... They both complement each other in all ways possible and the whole brother sister love, i think that is just down right trash. If it was that type of love then why is narutp and sakura showing this much affection towards eachother up till now?


Hmm I'm ticked when Sakura is made a prize medal for Naruto to claim, or that she's helpless without Naruto around (which exactly what NH fans see, since Hinata doesn't have much depth in personality besides her crush over Naruto). To be honest, I'm more a Sakura fan than Naruto fan or even NS fan (though I liked NS before I started to like Sakura)

About choice, I think Sakura has pretty much made her choice: Naruto, as friend or love interest, over Sasuke. She is currently seeing Sasuke as the source of Naruto's pain, and I don't think she will ever forgive him for that.

Edited by holy_demon, 05 October 2010 - 11:26 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:08 PM

I think the question Orange was asking was more along the lines of 'What is the reason behind our liking for the pairing?', as opposed to 'What is it about the fandoms of other pairing ships (specifically NH, SS, etc) that frustrates us?' smile.gif

EDIT: Although, to be honest, I do have to agree with you on your first point about Sakura being treated like some trophy.

Edited by Quinny52, 05 October 2010 - 11:13 PM.

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 11:58 PM

Quinny thanks for the translation! =) lol.. But yea that is the question and also if you guys could like give support on how NS(how yo think) may happen., i wanna see someone elses point of veiw pleasee. Instead of mine. And thank you guys. Lol Sakura is Smexylicioous lmao xD but she too is one of my favorite.(naruto, minato then sakura =) )
Also, New chapter is going to come out tommorow, cant wait. =D..... NS will win,IMO for many reasons but what you guys said is also interesting about how naruto may think of her as a prize, but sakura is my favorite female character and i love her to death lol.. NS IMO is a complementary couple b/c :

1. They complement eachother
2. They have mutual developmnt while the other pairing dont.. This is a major point of why some NS fans think it is gonna be canon and i agree with it.. Think about it, how on earth do you expect naruo to do a 180 and stop loving sakura(who he has loved throughout the series) and go with a stranger(Hinata, b/c of low mutal development level)...
3. Sakura is the Tsundere, so if you dont know what this means please google it.
4. She has probably realized in the new chapters(up to 511) that she does have more affection towards naruto as holy_demon stated above and i agree with that too.
5. Level of Caring/respect for eachother, they care too much about eachother.... As shown in numerous chapters

if you can think of any other reasons please pos them b/c i love to hear someone elses veiw point =D
No offense to anyone...

Edited by theorangehokage, 06 October 2010 - 06:23 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 12:59 PM

Yes that's correct I have repeated dozens of times that Kishi is developing romance in his manga base on true love. True love is all about trust, respect, friendship, understanding and love NS has all those qualities. SS and NH don't these two pairings are just base on one sided crushes of admiration that's it there's no development no level of understanding, no trust, NH only has the respect and the friendship because Naruto has always seen Hinata as a companion friend nothing more.

Edited by Gravenimage, 07 October 2010 - 01:00 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 03:39 PM

I like it because they are natural around each other and that if they do become a couple (and I do believe they will), they will act the same way. I see them as they are now but with the benefit of a normal couple.

I also love it because it's the most realistic pairing. They are not a 'fairy tale' couple. Naruto is certainly not the image of the flawless (and boring) prince charming and Sakura is certainly not the cutsy little princess. The close relationship that they share is enough to get pass those flaws.

I love that Sakura is the first female that has some influence to Naruto. I don't care what other might think of that but I think that Sakura beating out some sense into Naruto's head have been a good thing for him. I don't remember who said it (I think it was Miss Soupy) but I'm sure that, to Naruto, it was better to get some attention then to be completely ignore. From the start, that what Naruto have show to us, that he wish to get acknowledge by all mean necessary and, at first, the only way to do so was to do prank. When Sakura did punch him or scold him (I'm not adding the filler but the actual event) it was mainly because he did something idiot, reckless or perverted. So, in a way, it was a way to correct his bad behavior. No matter how bad it is, it was also one of the reasons, I'm sure, that made Naruto like Sakura because she gave him that attention, because she was there for him, something that Hinata didn't do. Hinata may have see first behind Naruto's foolish act his true face but she didn't do anything to actually help him ( at some point, I no longer buy the 'because she was too shy' argument). If I think about it, she was almost the same as those who ignore Naruto because he was the Nine tails jinchuuriki. If she knew him that much then surely she should have known how much it affects Naruto. She may have loved him first but she still didn't loved him enough to, at least, become friend with him. So, this is one of the first thing that I like about NaruSaku, because Sakura was the first female (and from his age group) to give him the attention that he wished and wanted.

They are many other things that I could say but those points are one of my favorites.


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Posted 07 October 2010 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (naruto-z @ Oct 7 2010, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey grave...you wanna post that as just the photo? I can't view from where I'm at....cough cough...work.


Sorry about that but I couldn't post a link with the picture only. sweatdrop.gif
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Oct 7 2010, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry about that but I couldn't post a link with the picture only. sweatdrop.gif

awww....too explicit?

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 09:12 PM

I don't know if we talk about it already (we do repeat a lot of stuff since there is nothing new lately regarding NaruSaku) but here's a question :

In all the NaruSaku moments that we have ( manga and/or anime) what is/are the moment(s) that you wish to be different? If so, which one(s) and how you would have like it?

To me, it's the feeding scene. I know it mainly a comic relief but I'm sure that it could have the same effect if Sakura actually fed Naruto. I would have done something like this:

My version of the feeding scene --Click here to view--
While Sakura actually feed Naruto, she cover herself by scolding Naruto, telling him that he should think about his well being before acting recklessly etc. Naruto, of course, agree without actually listening all because he's too confused about the fact that Sakura actually feed him (and this time, there is no Sasuke or anyone that encourage her to do so). During that time, Kakashi enter Ichiraku, do exactly the same minus the feeding part. Of course, Kakashi want to tell Naruto that, in the future, he can't use the Rasen-shuriken but wait and watch with a satisfied smile, ( we don't see him smile but we do see the 'eyes smile'…if you know what I mean) enjoying the 'back to normal' atmosphere. Sai, who observe Sakura feeding Naruto, notice Kakashi's smile and, like usual, want to understand better the situation that is happening now and decide to say one of his unusual but oh-so-meaningful insight to Kakashi (Something like ' In that book, it is said that feeding someone could also indicate a close relationship and that the one feeding the other is open to develop a more intimate bond). Kakashi is about to say something to that when suddenly, Sakura, who was still feeding Naruto, stop (understanding the meaning of Sai's word) and say to Sai that she'll make him know the true meaning of an intimate bond when she 'bond' him with the nearest wall. At the same time, Naruto, still unsure how to handle the feeding situation, couch and choke almost himself with the remaining noodles, tell Sai ( after recovering with the choking ) that he should stop saying weird stuff like that ( while blushing ). At the end, Kakashi tell his stuff, Naruto still say that know his body better than anyone, Sai minding his own business (for once) leaving Sakura, with a pensive look, holding tightly the chopstick.





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