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#1661 pinkheartsyellowstars

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE (Hopestar @ Aug 1 2009, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto loves Sakura point blank read ch. 457 & 458 and perhaps that's reason enough to understand his feelings for her has never change in fact they probably increase. Now once again we are back in Sakura's court and it seems the feeling may be mutual.

Yo I don't know about you guys but I'm betting by Hoiday season we will know where Sakura's feellings for Naruto will lie. Hopefully Kishi can present a emotion of romance love! If so then from November - January party.gif a_dance.gif


I agree whay have you said and I cant wait the roamnce will happen..but, After the 458.. many People thinks Sakura will turn away from Naruto because she wants to Naruto to be not also his source of pain..x[ I eally hope this will no be an option of Sakura to avoid Naruto .. it would be tragic.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:08 PM

Basically the most popular argument right now is that Kishimoto is just clearing up NS first, so he can move on to SS and NH.

I guess they don't realize that Sakura's confession and rejection was clearing that pairing up. Same with Hinata, her lose end story line is tied up, she confessed, that's it for her now.

NaruSaku IS the last pairing being closed up, and much deeper then the other 2 I might add.

That's my counter for the argument, feel free to add whatever your thoughts are of course.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:26 PM

The NarutoHinata paring is the most one sided paring in the history of Manga. I must say, I find Hinata a sweet heart but she has had zero character growth we only seen her get longer hair and bigger boobs.....

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:26 PM

I know that it still isn't officially canon but after this latest chapter i just have a feeling that NS is going to be canon.
And if I'm right them it's going to be party 24/7 a_dance.gif a_dance.gif a_dance.gif
And also if I'm right the FIRST thing I'm going to do is rub it in the face of a friend of mine that is basically a SasuSaku Fantard.
Because you see he is one of those people who only watches the anime and says things like
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Sakura as always been in love with Sasuke and Sasuke clearly shows he also loves her when he says thank you to Sakura

I'm not kidding , this is what he once told me , after that i was like Anyway even though i know it's wrong to spoil the story for him I'll just rub it in his face.
And then it's boogie all night boogie.gif boogie.gif boogie.gif

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:05 PM

That's just silly, one could argue that Sasuke may have had hidden feeligns for Sakura, but they DEFINATLY were not clearly shown. Absurd how far denial can go.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:12 PM

absurd that most sasusaku fans miss that narutos directly responsible for how she feels about sasuke in the firsrt place.

Edited by catsi563, 01 August 2009 - 10:12 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 12:35 AM

Castsi are you talking about the henge scene? That is what made me a NaruSaku shipper in the first place ! Sakura probably would have given up on Sasuke a long time ago had she not heard him confess her deepest ,most desperate fantasy to her. That was the big " ok so you all see where this is going?" scene. It really is the cutest thing, Naruto finds Sakura's biggest insecurity (@ the time)to be one of the most charming aspect of her wub.gif biggrin.gif .

Using both the almost kiss and the henge scene as footage for a pro SakuSasu video is beyond cheap! They are clearly scenes more aimed at the NaruSaku ship and the fact that you have to use them for a rival ship should tell you something about your choice huh.gif .

No offense, Im just tossing that out there...

And why are so many NaruHina fans upset about the fact that Hinata's confession has not been further addressed? This is not the first time Naruto got all delirious after transforming, so they had to expect this to happen. I may be getting a head of myself but I think Hinata's confession was 100% meant for Hinata, I think it was all about personal growth . On top of that Ive heard complaints about how she has SUDDENLY vanished. When has she ever been a regular? or even semi regular? She's not Rachel, shes more of a Rachel's coffee shop boss type ( "Friends" reference)

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:03 AM

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Like the work, such a nice emulation of the style. Not a fan of Sakura, so I looked for something different. I particularly liked how Sai described Sakura, as a curse. Not many would agree but that gave me some more hope for NaruHina. Not that I can't enjoy NaruSaku, would just rather prefer the former.



I found this on Deviant art.

How does discribing Sakura as a cruse on Naruto give hope to Naruto x Hinata. I am a little confused here headscratch.gif...

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:35 AM

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Castsi are you talking about the henge scene? That is what made me a NaruSaku shipper in the first place ! Sakura probably would have given up on Sasuke a long time ago had she not heard him confess her deepest ,most desperate fantasy to her. That was the big " ok so you all see where this is going?" scene. It really is the cutest thing, Naruto finds Sakura's biggest insecurity (@ the time)to be one of the most charming aspect of her .


Thats the one allright. Im of the storng opinion that that scene is the beginning where Sakura "fell for sasuke" and it also shows us that naruto is far more observant when it comes to sakura then we have seen.

its a pivotal moment because Sakura has already confronted sasuke about it partly during the goodbye scene, and it is a partly driving motivation for Sakura as she is trying to return Sasuke to see if that ""Kind caring sasuke"" is still there.

and yes many sasusaku fans erroneously point to the scene as proof thats Sasuke loves Sakura, when in reality when the real Sasuke sits next to Sakura he informs her in no uncertian terms just what he thinks of her.

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And why are so many NaruHina fans upset about the fact that Hinata's confession has not been further addressed? This is not the first time Naruto got all delirious after transforming, so they had to expect this to happen. I may be getting a head of myself but I think Hinata's confession was 100% meant for Hinata, I think it was all about personal growth . On top of that Ive heard complaints about how she has SUDDENLY vanished. When has she ever been a regular? or even semi regular? She's not Rachel, shes more of a Rachel's coffee shop boss type ( "Friends" reference)


I can only surmise that its the same phenomenon that lead Zutaran fans to blow a gasket when Aang kissed Katara during the invasion. the notion that after 2 whole pieces of interaction between them one fo which was him blackmailing her to betray a friend for her mothers necklace, and the other ended with him being responsable for nearly killing said friend. after which she threatend in no uncertian terms to "End him" that they would engage in this torrid love affair.

same with hinata after 2 scenes of dialogue from hinata one of which was done in the heat of battle and nearly lead to her death they jsut expect naruto to up and asplode with love for her uplifting there princess above her lowly station as a minor secondary character whos relevnce to the plot ended with the first chunin exams and whose big moment quite frankly could have been just as easilly done and would have had much more emotional resonace with the audience if hed used Iruka. and they will live happily ever after.

*shrugs* meh fandom whacha gonna do?

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How does discribing Sakura as a curse on Naruto give hope to Naruto x Hinata. I am a little confused here


In much the same way with all Sakura bashers does. they think Naruto will suddenly see her as a curse **cue dramatic music** and reject her for all the pain and suffering and horrid abuse that he has suffered at the pink haired harlots hands and then he will see his beautiful violet haired godess who has faithfully watched and supported him from the background for years and years and they will find true love in the end. **end dramatic music**

Edited by catsi563, 03 August 2009 - 04:40 AM.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:49 AM

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In much the same way with all Sakura bashers does. they think Naruto will suddenly see her as a curse **cue dramatic music** and reject her for all the pain and suffering and horrid abuse that he has suffered at the pink haired harlots hands and then he will see his beautiful violet haired godess who has faithfully watched and supported him from the background for years and years and they will find true love in the end. **end dramatic music**


Aw thanks Cats for clearing that up for me xD

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:51 AM

=^__^= very welcome.
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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:57 AM

For you Writers, English majors, Literature experts, this is my interpretation of structure of the recent romantic events.

Prior to Chapter 437, there were still people who believed there was no "suki" from Naruto to Sakura. After Chapter 437, NH had a launching pad from which to advance. Therefore, I find it redundant and unnecessary to have a Chapter 457 where is is confirmed that in Part II that Naruto wants to confess to her only to then nullify it at a later date to return to where 437 left us.

Kishimoto who has admitted himself to be bad at romance and with that sentiment echoed among fans would put extra work for himself where he could have just easily continued from 437. I find it highly implausible.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:02 AM

I agree. Even the most basic writing skill would put the events of 437 as a stepping stone which the writer woudl and should immediately follow through with a resolution as soon as chapters allow.

KIshimoto didnt do so and promptly moved on to the events of chapter 450 and forward leaving the resolution (so far) to Hinata smiling warmly at "The Hug".

further exploration and resolution of "The Confession" would have been a matter of no more then 3-5 panels in total and this has not been done thus rendering the moment moot and no longer relevant to the current scenario
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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:18 AM

I agree, any writer like myself included know its stupid to not throw away your plot . Unlike Toriyama, I think Kishi does quite well with romance... I doubt he stated he was bad at romance, because I think he does pretty well with his romance story plot wise.. The romance between NaruSaku is very well done than most Shoene manga romances are.....

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Aug 3 2009, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The romance between NaruSaku is very well done than most Shoene manga romances are.....


Not true.

Rurouni Kenshin's romance is one of the best written ones I've seen in a Shonen manga. Inuyasha is the same case, and they build up on the relationship between Kagome and Inuyasha. Rosario+Vampire, Fullmetal Alchemist, Buso Renkin, Great Teacher Onizuka...

I could go on and on, but there are lots of other manga that do romance better than Kishimoto does.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:38 AM

Well lets agree to disagree then xD I think he does very well actually, but I have read InuYasha the romance just got to rushed in my opinion at the end but that just a opinion....

Fullmetal Alchemist, I also agree with you on full metal thought haven't read Buso Renkin, Great Teacher Onizuka, I said most Shoene Manga do not all Shouene manga.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:40 AM

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So you've read MOST of shonen manga? Inuyasha rushed? They had a few hundred chapters to develop it.

You know what? Forget it. :zaru

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 06:27 AM

DB2 Interview
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What’s the theme for Part II?

I want to continue “people accepting other people,” theme. I also want to put in ‘romance’ that I wasn’t able to in part one (laughs). It seems difficult though.(laughs). Anyway, I won’t give up and my goal is to give it all so please keep cheering for Naruto.


Kishimoto has done a fine job with the pairings and romance development.

Kept the debate on pairings going this long.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:01 PM

I doubt that the real interview because I think that the theme is that you are stronger when your protecting someone close to you.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 03:30 PM

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I doubt that the real interview because I think that the theme is that you are stronger when your protecting someone close to you.


We may not be sure. But hey, we should take risks.

I have a feeling that this is a real interview, but I'm not entirely sure.

You have a point there, anyway.

Naruto has many themes, many aspects, that keep us all interested in this particular manga,

People accepting people is a reference to Naruto's acknowledgement as a fine ninja and not just as a monster.

As you can see, there are many people out there in the Naruto world who have been ignored and cast away by other people just because they have these 'monsters' inside them. There was a lot of hurt and pain, and Kishimoto wanted that particular aspect to be realized and thought deeply by the readers.

Yet, Naruto had overcome all of these obstacles, made himself stronger, physically, mentally, and emotionally, and had found the courage to protect those people who are precious to him.

When the Konoha-nins accepted Naruto as a hero & friend and not as the Kyuubi, he was ecstatic about these new feelings. laugh.gif

But, remember that even though these villagers had shunned him, he still protected them? He risked his life to save the village and protect everyone from death.

That is why we love Naruto.

That is why we wait every Friday for the next manga chapter to come.

Because we want to see his growth as a person who had experienced so much suffering, then still keep a genuine smile plastered on his face.

These themes are dominant in the series.

People accepting people;

And becoming stronger in spirit and body by protecting those people who are important to you, those who had accepted you as their own.

These themes compliment each other, and therefore, show us how Naruto lives his life as a person who reaches his goals, and never gives up.

This does not only center on Naruto protecting Sakura, but also Sasuke and Hinata. Naruto wants to protect his friends and comrades, and he never showed any bias when it came to who he will save first!

He always kept his promises, never letting them go, even though times are very rough for him.

He would not stop unless he would accomplish what he needs to do and reach the stars above him.

He is an idiot with a pure heart and an unbreakable spirit~love.gif

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