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It's safe that way. Translators get involved in a lot of fandom war without them knowing, so they try to make it vague as possible. If I, or 六道仙人 were in his position, we'd probably do the same.

For example, my translation regarding this scene could be taken advantage from a SS fan, they can post it on their tumblr or twitter or NF. If that happens, opposing forces(anti-SS) would brand me as a SS fan, and I will lose all credibility as a biased translator, even if I wasn't.

This is what apparently another translator said(don't know him, somebody posted in on NB's pairing thread)

"Pretty much. Viz probably went with the most neutral translation possible in order to avoid ‘assuming’ anything. Like I mentioned before, Sasuke simply says:

おかげで届いた

おかげで = thankfully/thanks to (…………..), 届いた = reached

Thankfully/thanks to (…………), (…………) reached (…………).

In Japanese, this sentence can actually stand on its own without the addition of anything else. Lovely language, Japanese, eh? In ENGLISH, however - like in many other languages - you can’t just say ‘Thanks to, reached’ and nothing else. You have to complete the sentence, otherwise it will be unreadable for an English audience. So:

Thankfully/thanks to (…………), (I) reached (here).

Most obvious additions, as it’s clear what Sasuke is talking about. And then:

Thankfully/thanks to (you/that/your vest), (I) reached (here).
Notice how every translator made a different addition to the thanks? That’s because there’s absolutely nothing before the thanks. What Sasuke is talking about is implied. Viz probably went with ‘that’ in order to be as ambiguous as possible, and thus keep the original absence of specifications. The only thing that can certainly be crossed out as something he was thankful for is the vest itself (I mean the vest as an object, not as a symbol), since it’s clear from his explanation that he didn’t need it at all.  
Anyway, I see nothing wrong with their translation, as the symbolism speaks for itself. *shrugs*
(mezzomarinaio)"

[六道仙人]

Geg, an another translator jap from NF, said this

 

 

I interpreted Sasuke's line as saying it's thanks to his Rinnegan ability that he was able to make it to them, since that's what he was just talking about/explaining

 

well.... who knows

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think the most goes to thanking the situation placement, which is the vest in this case, but yeah, we'll see how things follow up. This is a make or break moment and probably an important one.

[ramenanmitsu]

This is what apparently another translator said(don't know him, somebody posted in on NB's pairing thread)
"Pretty much. Viz probably went with the most neutral translation possible in order to avoid assuming anything. Like I mentioned before, Sasuke simply says:

おかげで届いた

おかげで = thankfully/thanks to (..), 届いた = reached

Thankfully/thanks to (), () reached ().

In Japanese, this sentence can actually stand on its own without the addition of anything else. Lovely language, Japanese, eh? In ENGLISH, however - like in many other languages - you cant just say Thanks to, reached and nothing else. You have to complete the sentence, otherwise it will be unreadable for an English audience. So:

Thankfully/thanks to (), (I) reached (here).

Most obvious additions, as its clear what Sasuke is talking about. And then:

Thankfully/thanks to (you/that/your vest), (I) reached (here).[/size]Notice how every translator made a different addition to the thanks? Thats because theres absolutely nothing before the thanks. What Sasuke is talking about is implied. Viz probably went with that in order to be as ambiguous as possible, and thus keep the original absence of specifications. The only thing that can certainly be crossed out as something he was thankful for is the vest itself (I mean the vest as an object, not as a symbol), since its clear from his explanation that he didnt need it at all. [/size] [/size]Anyway, I see nothing wrong with their translation, as the symbolism speaks for itself. *shrugs*[/size](mezzomarinaio)[/size]"

Unfortunately, I never liked this guy's translation because he translated Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke from fond to love.

He says we can cross out the vest because Sasuke never needed it. Sasuke DID need it, so his reasons for crossing out the vest doesn't make sense.

I think the most goes to thanking the situation placement, which is the vest in this case, but yeah, we'll see how things follow up. This is a make or break moment and probably an important one.

Most? Who are all the most you're talking of? It seems like the translations were spread out in different directions instead of concentrating on one or the other.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 21 July 2014 - 09:48 PM.

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Geg, an another translator jap from NF, said this

 

 

well.... who knows

I think the most goes to thanking the situation placement, which is the vest in this case, but yeah, we'll see how things follow up. This is a make or break moment and probably an important one.

Okay so the person I know from reddit told me he's thanking someone or something, but couldn't really figure out what it was. Then he wondered what google and bing translated it to.

Bing gives a "Received thanks to the pen"

Google translates gives this if i add a pen

ペンをおかげで届いた
I arrived thanks to the pen

So like ramenanmitsu said, it's best to go with takL

 

 

 

Unfortunately, I never liked this guy's translation because he translated Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke from fond to love.

He says we can cross out the vest because Sasuke never needed it. Sasuke DID need it, so his reasons for crossing out the vest doesn't make sense.

Most? Who are all the most you're talking of?

Ah okay, that makes sense 

Edited by TheMagicConch, 21 July 2014 - 09:49 PM.

[Hiraishin]

Yeah, I was just going to say I'm wary of trusting mezzo. What with her translation of 675, and, well, her translations are quite obviously biased towards SS.

Also, I'm surprised to find out takl is a she. I always thought she was a guy haha.

Edited by Hiraishin, 21 July 2014 - 09:51 PM.

[Gojira]

WWIII ? Nothing pairing related has happened for a while, why is there war? Don't tell me that the SS fans are screaming canon with THAT ending!

They're getting hyped for "the upcoming kiss next chapter"

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The saddest part is people fighting over for translations and not realizing that no matter if Sasuke thanked the vest or his rinnegan, or left it vague or thanked Sakura the kittening meaning of the scene is same.
FOr god's sake at this rate we will requesting translations of SFX, we're not even discussing the chapter anymore.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 July 2014 - 09:49 PM.

[FireFox]

The shorten version is SaVe... aka it was Destiny that allowed this couple to be : )

LOL aren't they  the perfect couple SaVe I like it that's so romantiku  

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The saddest part is people fighting over for translations and not realizing that no matter if Sasuke thanked the vest or his rinnegan, or left it vague or thanked Sakura the kittening meaning of the scene is same.
FOr god's sake at this rate we will requesting translations of SFX, we're not even discussing the chapter anymore.

Hey, when you're arguing with people on other forums you need the right translation

[Hiraishin]

The saddest part is people fighting over for translations and not realizing that no matter if Sasuke thanked the vest or his rinnegan, or left it vague or thanked Sakura the kittening meaning of the scene is same.
FOr god's sake at this rate we will requesting translations of SFX, we're not even discussing the chapter anymore.

Relax. The translators here just like having other opinions on this matter, it's discussion of something that happened in the chapter. I don't really see any fighting.

The chapter threads always derail into something besides the chapter itself anyway lmao.

Edited by Hiraishin, 21 July 2014 - 09:58 PM.

[FireFox]

WWIII ? Nothing pairing related has happened for a while, why is there war? Don't tell me that the SS fans are screaming canon with THAT ending!

LOL That's exactly what's happening since the chapter got out SS even goes to say that Kishi is on their side now and yeah SS is definitely canon they are even saying that Sasuke basically confessed to her with that eye look  .

[ramenanmitsu]

They're getting hyped for "the upcoming kiss next chapter"

So Sasuke and Sakura are totally going to ignore Naruto as he fights Kaguya in the battlefield and they share a kiss? Wow.

[Nostradamus]

So Sasuke and Sakura are totally going to ignore Naruto as he fights Kaguya in the battlefield and they share a kiss? Wow.

Yep that's pretty much what will happen.

[Atheck]

So Sasuke and Sakura are totally going to ignore Naruto as he fights Kaguya in the battlefield and they share a kiss? Wow.

Sasuke could always use the academy clone jutsu and have it remain behind to fictitously kiss Sakura like a ghost as the original races off to find the portal.

Edited by Atheck, 21 July 2014 - 10:07 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ok, we are closing in to the next chapter. So here I go with my predictions:

-Sasuke carries Sakura in a bridal hold for:
-because she's exhausted
-because if she has to escape, Sasuke will carry her home.
-Sasuke will regenerate her chakra and/or Obito's.
-Sasuke will place his hand(s) on Sakura's hand(s) to help Obito doing the portal.
-Sakura's reaction is part 1 era.
-Sakura's part 1 and ending the developments from 540 or perhaps earlier.
-Sakura wants to take advantage of him holding on.
-Obito see a parallel of them as himself and Rin.
-Obito see a parallel of them as Kakashi and Rin.
-Sasuke says he's sorry.
-Sasuke says thank you to Sakura or Obito or both.
-Stuck together in that dimension and Sasuke will just stay with Sakura.
-Stuck together in that dimension and Sasuke will just stay with Sakura. Obito passed out.
-Sasuke hugs Sakura after their argument.
-Sasuke hugs Sakura after their chat.
-Sakura blushes in any given time, including now.
-Sasuke reveal his plan but now tampering since Sakura is convincing him.
-Sakura's development is to forever stay in love with Sasuke.
-Sakura cleansed the entire doubts and downfalls from the past developments, notably chapter 540.
-Sasuke takes his shirt off, making Sakura feeling a bit hot.
-Sasuke takes his shirt off, only to give it to Sakura.
-Obito and Sasuke becomes really good friends, having Sakura smile like everything is all good.
-Obito says he's sorry to Sasuke, but he respond in a good light, making Sakura happy.
-Sasuke flirts with Sakura right before going to the portal.
-Sakura pass out from either exhaustion or because of Sasuke, thus him carrying her in bridal style or anything else.
-Sakura will be upset that Sasuke stops preventing her falling, thus think in her inner Sakura that it's lame.
-Sakura and Sasuke's developments end with each other, acknowledgement and hint of romance.
-Sakura going love dovey throughout the whole chapter or rather before he leaves. Again, all wounds are healed.
-Sakura daydream Sasuke doing something nice, only to get nothing in real life.
-Sasuke kiss Sakura's forehead and say the line from chapter 3.
-Sakura wants Sasuke to be the Hokage.
-Sasuke makes a promise to Sakura.
-Sasuke do more physical contact with Sakura. No Rated R.
-No mention of Naruto to cause the whole chapter into a Team 7 thing.
-Any scenes with Obito, Sasuke, and Sakura.

All of these can be mixed in together, as well as chance of alteration. So, get ready for SS to be canon worldwide this Wednesday. Live! Get hype!

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 22 July 2014 - 12:32 AM.

[六道仙人]

@ramen, seriously didn't you notice the bedroom eyes? shame on you

[Swagkura]

Ok, we are closing in to the next chapter. So here I go with my predictions:
-Sasuke carries Sakura in a bridal hold for:
-because she's exhausted
-because if she has to escape, Sasuke will carry her home.
-Sasuke will regenerate her chakra and/or Obito's.
-Sasuke will place his hand(s) on Sakura's hand(s) to help Obito doing the portal.
-Sakura's reaction is part 1 era.
-Sakura's part 1 and ending the developments from 540 or perhaps earlier.
-Sakura wants to take advantage of him holding on.
-Obito see a parallel of them as himself and Rin.
-Obito see a parallel of them as Kakashi and Rin.
-Sasuke says he's sorry.
-Sasuke says thank you to Sakura or Obito or both.
-Stuck together in that dimension and Sasuke will just stay with Sakura.
-Stuck together in that dimension and Sasuke will just stay with Sakura. Obito passed out.
-Sasuke hugs Sakura after their argument.
-Sasuke hugs Sakura after their chat.
-Sakura blushes in any given time, including now.
-Sasuke reveal his plan but now tampering since Sakura is convincing him.
-Sakura's development is to forever stay in love with Sasuke.
-Sakura cleansed the entire doubts and downfalls from the past developments, notably chapter 540.
-Sasuke takes his shirt off, making Sakura feeling a bit hot.
-Sasuke takes his shirt off, only to give it to Sakura.
-Obito and Sasuke becomes really good friends, having Sakura smile like everything is all good.
-Obito says he's sorry to Sasuke, but he respond in a good light, making Sakura happy.
-Sasuke flirts with Sakura right before going to the portal.
-Sakura pass out from either exhaustion or because of Sasuke, thus him carrying her in bridal style or anything else.
-Sakura will be upset that Sasuke stops preventing her falling, thus think in her inner Sakura that it's lame.
-Sakura and Sasuke's developments end with each other, acknowledgement and hint of romance.
-Sakura going love dovey throughout the whole chapter or rather before he leaves. Again, all wounds are healed.
-Sakura daydream Sasuke doing something nice, only to get nothing in real life.
-No mention of Naruto to cause the whole chapter into a Team 7 thing.
-Any scenes with Obito, Sasuke, and Sakura.
All of these can be mixed in together, as well as chance of alteration. So, get ready for SS to be canon worldwide this Wednesday. Live! Get hype!

Oh god, I think I'm gonna be sick, yuck

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh god, I think I'm gonna be sick, yuck

Oh it's going to happen. And you are going to love it! One way or another!

[Swagkura]

Oh it's going to happen. And you are going to love it! One way or another!

I'm dying. You are literally killing me right now