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[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I don't think Naruto is going to go out of his way to fulfill his mothers wish with that. What he wants just happens to align with what she wished for him. Just like him sleeping like she wished him to.

I don't see any reason why he shoudn't. Although, if you're right. Than NH is more canon than NS, something I have zer tolerance for.

[Transformers03]

Hey, J-man's death made me weeping for months lol.

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Anyways, I'm fully aware that Naruto wants to fulfill Kushina's dying wishes that he finds a girl like her. We all know Hinata is out of the question. And who's the girl? We all know that Sakura share common traits and behavior, not to mention that they were teased about a certaint part they didn't like before. Kushina... hair... Sakura... forehead. The only thing that Hinata has a connection to Kushina is that she was also abducted by Kumo. Relax, because NH and SS is a lost cost. Look at the reaction on Sasuke's face, when he found out that Karin is an Uzumaki. Even though Kishi drew Sasuke at an awekard position, difficult to discern his facial expression. But nevertheless, he got excited for a moment rather if it was in a good or bad light. Just wonder how much Karin's heritage of an impact of Sasuke?

When did Hinata get abducted by Kumo?

[Don-kun]

I don't see any reason why he shoudn't. Although, if you're right. Than NH is more canon than NS, something I have zer tolerance for.

Do you have an acc in FF.Net with Konoha's Crimson Fox user name?

[Verilance]

When did Hinata get abducted by Kumo?

she didn't, it was a failed attempt that led in consequence, to the death of Neji's father

[kirabook]

I don't see any reason why he shoudn't. Although, if you're right. Than NH is more canon than NS, something I have zer tolerance for.

How in heaven's name can that possibly make NH more canon than NS?

The fact is, Naruto already had a taste in girls that happens to align with what his mother wanted. He doesn't have to go out of his way to find a girl to like that is like her because he already likes someone like her.

He doesn't have to go out of his way to sleep more for her because he already sleeps a lot.

He's already doing some of the things she wanted for him in life. But either way, if his mother suddenly told him he should find a weird girl instead of a girl more like her, then I don't think Naruto should go out of his way to try and like someone else just because his mother wishes it so.

I don't think Naruto will go out of his way to attempt to change his feelings for someone he loves. Period.

[Branden]

So Sakura's parents are civilians, so the symbol on the back of her shirt isn't a clan symbol. So what is it then?

Edited by Branden, 24 June 2012 - 12:59 AM.

[Anguyen92]

So Sakura's parents are civilians, so the symbol on the back of her shirt isn't a clan symbol. So what is it then?

Maybe the circle is still a clan symbol, since her mother is wearing it in the picture.



Whether her parents are civilians or not and have unique abilities or not, I can't tell yet until the movie comes out.

[kirabook]

It can still be a clan symbol. Civilians can be in clans too after all, just look at real life. There are plenty of clans/legacies/royal families who are pretty normal human beings but have strong family ties.

While we haven't seen any specific civilian clans, I don't think it's impossible for there to be some.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

When did Hinata get abducted by Kumo?

The previous Raikage kidnapped Hinata, but came up short because Hiashi killed him. That was why Hinata's uncle (Neji's father) had to die in Hiashi's place.

Do you have an acc in FF.Net with Konoha's Crimson Fox user name?

Yes, that's me. Have you been reading any of my stories?

How in heaven's name can that possibly make NH more canon than NS?

The fact is, Naruto already had a taste in girls that happens to align with what his mother wanted. He doesn't have to go out of his way to find a girl to like that is like her because he already likes someone like her.

He doesn't have to go out of his way to sleep more for her because he already sleeps a lot.

He's already doing some of the things she wanted for him in life. But either way, if his mother suddenly told him he should find a weird girl instead of a girl more like her, then I don't think Naruto should go out of his way to try and like someone else just because his mother wishes it so.

I don't think Naruto will go out of his way to attempt to change his feelings for someone he loves. Period.

I see your point. But do you think that him loving Sakura had anything to do about Kushina's wishes? Its been proven she was there, inside, watching Naruto for 16 years. It's just a theory of my that Kushina was hinting Sakura. But there's no evidence.

[kirabook]

I'd like to think Naruto is well reasoned enough to choose a girl he likes and not just who his mother wants him to be with. That's "I marry a girl to make my mother happy" written all over it. Those relationships are rarely happy and real.

Edited by kirabook, 24 June 2012 - 03:09 AM.

[Jake]

The previous Raikage kidnapped Hinata, but came up short because Hiashi killed him. That was why Hinata's uncle (Neji's father) had to die in Hiashi's place.

It wasn't the previous Raikage, the Previous Raikage was that guy Naruto fought in the desert who originally died after three days fighting off a couple thousand (I think that was how many they said) enemy shinobi.

[Paptala]

If Hinata dies, fine.

No, the absolute last thing I want is for Hinata to die. Not only would the arguments for Hinata being more of a/better heroine that Sakura resurface with vigor, there would also be no end to the "if Hinata had lived, Naruto would have fallen for her/ended up with her/etc. and he only got with Sakura/whoever because she wasn't available".

I hate it when characters die for no reason, or for a crap reason.

Jiraiya died because he thought that he was fulfilling the prophecy and preventing the destruction of the ninja world by doing so, and for plot purposes (to have Naruto grown up and learn what it is to desire revenge so to better understand Sasuke).

your right, him losing Jiraiya was nothing at all like what Sasuke went through. thanks for pointing that out.

It isn't nothing like Sasuke went through - Jiraiya raised him for two to three years of his life, and was like family to Naruto. Now, Naruto knows the pain of losing a loved one, and the desire for revenge. Thus, he is able to better relate to Sasuke, not completely understand what he went through.

Just as Naruto could never understand thinking your brother killed your entire family in cold blood (though he can come somewhat close, given that Sasuke, whom he views as a brother, betrayed him, tried to kill him, and then tried to kill his teammates), Sasuke could never understand knowing nothing but hate and loneliness for the those first seven years of his life.

Edited by Paptala, 24 June 2012 - 06:01 AM.

[Don-kun]

Yes, that's me. Have you been reading any of my stories?

Not yet, but your reviews in FF.Net are great. They are ones that motivates me to read story or not read it.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I'd like to think Naruto is well reasoned enough to choose a girl he likes and not just who his mother wants him to be with. That's "I marry a girl to make my mother happy" written all over it. Those relationships are rarely happy and real.

I would like to believe that Kushina was trying to motivate Naruto to ask Sakura out, instead of giving up on her in some. Although, were can only speculate just like with jiraiya and tsunade's final moments together.

It wasn't the previous Raikage, the Previous Raikage was that guy Naruto fought in the desert who originally died after three days fighting off a couple thousand (I think that was how many they said) enemy shinobi.

Yeah, I sorry about that. I sometime keep confussing my self that the Head ninja of kumo was the previous Raikage. The Head ninja was way too small to be the Raikage hahaha!

Not yet, but your reviews in FF.Net are great. They are ones that motivates me to read story or not read it.

I could say the same to you. You're almost everywhere in the NS fandom world

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 24 June 2012 - 07:31 PM.

[Transformers03]

[color="darkorange"]Although, were can on speculate just like with jiraiya and tsunade's final moments together.

What happen between Jariaya and Tsunade's before Jariaya went off to fight Pain? Sorry, I don't know what chapter (or episode) that showed them together for the last time.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

What happen between Jariaya and Tsunade's before Jariaya went off to fight Pain? Sorry, I don't know what chapter (or episode) that showed them together for the last time.

Apparently, they went on a Sake date or an outing. They talked about many things, which lead to the identity of Naruto's parents. This was the first time Minato and Kushina were mention in the manga and anime (by their names of course). At the end of their conversation, Tsunade wanted to back him up just in case something happen to Jiraiya at Ame. But he refused, and stated that she has a great responsibility as the Hokage to watch over the village. Just before he left Konoha for the last time, he wanted to confess something to Tsunade (which she was blushing at that time), but decided to keep it to himself. Many believed that Jiraiya wanted to confess his feelings he had for. Jiraiya didn't want Tsunade to go through the same moment she had with Nawaki and Dan. He knew Tsunade would be devastated if she learn that Jiraiya was in love with her, and that would make her unfit to rule Konoha. That was the last thing Jiraiya wanted, so it took his feelings to the grave. Very sad *cries into the corner*.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 24 June 2012 - 07:54 PM.

[God of All Shinobi]

poor J man. See this is what made me a NS fan, the whole situation with Jiraiya was really moving.

[Transformers03]

Apparently, they went on a Sake date or an outing. They talked about many things, which lead to the identity of Naruto's parents. This was the first time Minato and Kushina were mention in the manga and anime (by their names of course). At the end of their conversation, Tsunade wanted to back him up just in case something happen to Jiraiya at Ame. But he refused, and stated that she has a great responsibility as the Hokage to watch over the village. Just before he left Konoha for the last time, he wanted to confess something to Tsunade (which she was blushing at that time), but decided to keep it to himself. Many believed that Jiraiya wanted to confess his feelings he had for. Jiraiya didn't want Tsunade to go through the same moment she had with Nawaki and Dan. He knew Tsunade would be devastated if she learn that Jiraiya was in love with her, and that would make her unfit to rule Konoha. That was the last thing Jiraiya wanted, so it took his feelings to the grave. Very sad *cries into the corner*.

Can you tell me what chapter that scene is from?

[Quinny52]

@Transformers03 - It's somewhere around the 350's I believe, just after (or not long after) the Sasuke vs Deidara fight. If you want the episode, it's 126. Hope that helped.

And yeah, that was heartwrenching to see, but that's how unselfish Jiraiya is, not wanting any confession of his feelings to compromise Tsunade's leadership. That said, I think Tsunade DID catch on to what he wanted to say.
This tragedy (along with Obito & Rin) is one of the reasons that I hope for NS, so that history doesn't repeat itself, and Naruto can break THIS cycle (along with that other one we keep hearing about), finally lay his feelings on the table and get the girl that he loves.
Of course, it's not ALL about Naruto (I have my reasons for Sakura to be part of NS), but I'm just keeping in topic with the current discussion.

EDIT: Thank for that, Verilance. It's hard sometimes to keep track not just of 'what' happened, but 'when'.

Edited by Quinny52, 24 June 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[Verilance]

@Transformers03 - It's somewhere around the 350's I believe, just after (or not long after) the Sasuke vs Deidara fight.

366-367 to be precise

Edited by Verilance, 24 June 2012 - 10:00 PM.