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[Phantom_999]

our scars run deep that day, but scars fade over time. plus, it helps that bolt and sarada are the recovery ship, so we'll be just fine. thank god kishi gave us pity.

*hmph* What is there to rejoice about Naruto and Sasuke's spawn hooking up? All it is is them getting together one gen late and as a het couple. Their respective mothers' genes are pushed aside as far as I'm concerned.

Edited by Phantom_999, 14 April 2015 - 04:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bullxkitten has a strong chance. That is until the end, until when these idiots will decide to put burrito with a side character.

Let's go ChouChou!

[Nostradamus]

Let's go ChouChou!

I just edited my comment.

[LuckyChi7]

If Bolt X Sarada is done better than NaruSaku, would you guys accept it?

 

 

Honestly I wouldn't really care, would I ship them if the narrative pushes that plot point? Depends on how they are being handled, but lets face it both of those characters are being handled by Kishi and his editors. It's not going to be a reconciliation prize for me because NaruSaku didn't become canon It just isn't. Throwing in those specific traits to Bolt and Sarada just to make it like hey look here's the pairing you guys wanted. No that' just insulting not just as a fan, but as an author too. If you genuinely care about a romance subplot between characters do it right. Don't rehash the same thing you used that the other pairing had to make it better. The book I was previously writing, before my current one, had these two characters that were similar to the relationship that NaruSaku had. My plan when it came to that book was to have a whole other series (this was when I had a trilogy set in mind, but I also set on which who the characters were gonna end up with since the first book. By the time the third book would come around it would tease at like the children of the important characters. They would be the focus in what i call the sequel trilogy to the last one. I've got all these notes written down and basically which children from the main characters would end up with. I'm still planning on writing these set of books in the future since I've literary got all my notes set in my drawer, and once I finish the book series I'm currently focused on then those books will be my next focus of attention because let's just say the previous series I was working on was almost a carbon copy of Naruto. So as I'm working on my current series I'm also making legit changes to make it less of a Naruto rip off series in novel form and this was prior to the sh*tty ending of Naruto. 

 

 

 

The point I'm trying to bring up with my book series (previous one) is I've got the couples planned out since the beginning. When it comes to the children of the main characters, yeah they would have certain personality traits that are similar to their parents, but they would also be different from one another compared to what their parents would be. Okay so how does that fit with Kishi's take on the new generation of Naruto? The thing about Bolt is he is almost identical to Naruto in both appearance and personality. They were both goofs,  caused trouble to get attention. The only main difference between Bolt and Naruot is  that Bolt doesn't give a kitten about the Hokage whatsoever. Okay that's the only thing that makes him somewhat interesting, and he's trying to get his father's attention. Almost identical right, well what about Sarada? Alright so Sarada in a sense is alot like her father because she values the Uchiha like just like Sasuke, and she watches the action that Bolt causes similar to how Sasuke  watched over what Naruto did (remember 698).  You could also say that Sarada watching over Bolt from afar is similar to Sakura because she watched over what Naruto had gone through as well. Thing is we haven't seen Sarada act like a total tsundere unlike Sakura, but since the spin off and the movie are on the horizon I'll bet you that she's gonna have those traits in some fashion. Even if Sarada has to go so far as to having a Inner Sarada mode which would make her alot like her mother mind you. Again the point is you have the idiot falling in love with the tsundere and you see them grow. That's the same thing we saw when it came to NaruSaku only this one becomes canon. Would I care? No because Kishi could've done this first time around because I cared about NaruSaku more than I should've.

 

He didn't do so why would I go as far to as to caring about BoruSara is as much as I did for NaruSaku. I just won't, but if there is "proper legit development between them" then okay that's just my answer. It's going to take alot of me to care about a pairing to the extent that I had for NaruSaku in what's left in this series. I will go as far as to even saying as the closest pairing like NaruSaku that I invested my time into that become canon ObiRin and I'm completely fine with that because at least that pairing not only did it have it's proper development and resolution, but it's one I can accept at the end of the day.Unlike NH and SS which had absolutely no proper development nor resolution like ObiRin. You see I still very much love NaruSaku for the development they both had, but the downfall is they didn't get the proper resolution they deserved. That's the hard part for all of us when it came to the pairings standpoint. Bottom line is BoruSara it becomes canon okay, if it gets the proper development that NS did then fine, but in no way am I gonna accept it as okay it's NaruSaku  which I didn't get. No I got that with ObiRin,  and that is never going to change my mindset one bit. I still consider NaruSaku as my top OTP and ObiRin hitting #2 for OTP in terms of Naruto.  BoruSara on the other hand I'm going to see how it's being handled. If it does well okay I'll accept it for what the pairing is, however by no means am I going to consider it better than NaruSaku or ObiRin.              

Edited by LuckyChi7, 14 April 2015 - 05:04 PM.

[Namikaze Clan]

Bullxkitten has a strong chance. That is until the end, until when these idiots will decide to put burrito with a side character possibly Chouji's kid. Now that's one hot pairing or should I say juicy. When she gets hungry she can just eat him. And let's be honest that's probably what's going to happen.

Nah, ChouChou will probably go to Shikadai or Inojin. Inojin most likely since it would be a reincarnation of ChoujixIno

[tricksie]

Gah, I hate that. I'd rather not be busy I guess you couldn't resist us much longer though

Quick question: what are your thoughts on the Uchiha incident?

 

Which one? From the manga or from Sakura's novel? Or has there been a new Uchiha incident I've missed out on?

[DeathGodMack]

Why are narusaku fans accepting boltxsalad? Doing that makes us look weak,like we just take anything handed to us.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Nah, ChouChou will probably go to Shikadai or Inojin. Inojin most likely since it would be a reincarnation of ChoujixIno

Nah, they must continue the InoShikaChou tradition.

[ichigo500]

Hello guys, haven't been there for a day or two, can anyone tell me if anything new happened please ?   

 

you know a while back i actually thought about getting into ft. but since i've been hearing some naru/sasu rivalry that natsu and some other long establish character got going on, there's zero chance of me ever reading it now. 

 

lol looks really familiar

 

 

i'm staying far away from series that has the friend go all evil and it's up to his buddies to save him, especially in shounen. i find this to be the most annoying trope ever thanks to naruto.

I agree with you ! I don't understand why he did that in fact.... I was starting to catch up, but I saw what happened in the last chapters, I just don't want to read it anymore...I prefer stay away from anything that looks like Naruto... 

[Narufan85]

If Bolt X Sarada is done better than NaruSaku, would you guys accept it?

 

Even if I were to consume even one tiny bit of part 3, I would never ship BS.

 

 

Um, no..... For me, probably not. First off, because I wouldn't be patronized into accepting a copy-and-paste couple as a consolation prize after getting screwed out of the real thing. Second, because they'd have to be really compelling characters in their own right before I would want to see them overcoming the odds and getting together. And third, since Naruto and Sakura were already compelling characters with a devoted fanbase (like BoltxSarada would have to be), and they couldn't overcome the odds and become a couple couple, then how could I expect Kishimoto to do an even better job with NS 2.0? How could I except it to work and they'd have a happy ending, when Kishimoto didn't do it the first time around?

 

But really, the biggest reason I won't be accepting the BS pairing is because it's not a reincarnation of NaruSaku — it's NaruSasu. 

 

I didn't ship NaruSasu before, and I'm not about to start now when it's been repainted as BoltxSalad.

 

What a fabulous post. NS had 690 some chapters of buildup. It was established over years by bringing the fans in and getting them invested in a real, relatable narrative. BS is pandering to the NS and NaruSasu fanbase. Kishi's only hope would be to write another 700 chapter manga, because honestly, what motivation do I have to be invested in these cheap, reductive characters?

 

Let's go ChouChou!

Hey! I've been shipping BoltxChoo Choo for, like, 3 days. Get on the bandwagon!

Edited by Narufan85, 14 April 2015 - 05:27 PM.

[AHK]

Which one? From the manga or from Sakura's novel? Or has there been a new Uchiha incident I've missed out on?

The massacre.

[Michi]

Why are narusaku fans accepting boltxsalad? Doing that makes us look weak,like we just take anything handed to us.

no one is accepting BS. -___-

[luffyq1]

no one is accepting BS. -___-

speak for yourself.

[Gaara's hair]

BS, hahahahaha XD

I always think you guys are saying kitten

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I'plan never accept BS. If we had NS then had Shinachiku then who would he fall in love with?

[Michi]

speak for yourself.

LOL stoooooooooop

[Michi]

BS, hahahahaha XD
I always think you guys are saying bullsh**

lol BS is BS.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

If Bolt X Sarada is done better than NaruSaku, would you guys accept it?

20 years of development? lmao.

[Hanabi]

actually bs could be a poor man's squallxrinoa (ff8)

[tricksie]

The massacre.

 

Ooooh the massacre. Yeah, I thought it was a really good element to start, but by the end, it was so muddled and twisted that it lost its impact in the story.

 

It's used to justifies Sasuke's lust for revenge, yet Obito never is held accountable for being responsible for it. And Itachi goes conveniently from killer to saint, with everyone forgetting that he was the hand that dealt the blow and tortured Sasuke for years afterward.

 

It could have been a touchstone in the story for Kishimoto to have gone back to — Sauske's emotional wound could have been healed in the end, and the people of Konoha could have finally understood the terrible bloody past of the Uchiha. There could have been forgiveness and resolution. But we got none of that. 

 

I just recently read a fanfic where Sasuke can't come back to the village because he's still hated (because Kage Naruto won't exhonerate the Uchiha name because it would make waves with his in-laws and the other powerful clans). And so since Sakura is still in the village with Sarada (who is Karin's child in this fic), Sarada bears the brunt of all the hatred of the village. She basically is treated like young Naruto was! Now, this was a fic, but wouldn't this same scenario be happening in the village in canon? Sasuke's left his daughter in a village that hates him and his clan. How is this going to end well?

 

And Itachi...I always thought he was a much better villain than the sudden saint who seems to know everything about everything and NOW wants to tell everyone...after he's killed his family and twisted the mind of his only brother!! Lol. Itachi as the patron saint of "Don't-question-me-I-know-what-I'm-doing-now-do-what-I-tell-you-to-do" is a much harder sell than Itachi the Villain. Itachi the Villain was much more clean cut. In the end, Itachi was turned into some kind of psychopath moral compass, popping up to tell Naruto how to be a good Hokage. As an ultimate ninja and cold-blooded killer it was easier to understand him — but when he turned "good" that's when things went bad. No matter how Kishimoto spun it, you can never use committing a massacre to justify anything. Ever. Itachi was a killer was believable. Itachi as a savior was too far-fetched. It turned the whole focus onto his motives instead of his actual crimes, and it belittled the people/family/friends/lovers he murdered. 

 

Then back to Obito...in the end, there was very little mention of his role in the massacre, as well as in all the other murders: Naruto's parents, the other jinchurikis, YahikoKonanNagato, the Mizukage.... All of it just swept under the rug. Obito got the magic-wand Itachi treatment, and all his sins magically disappeared. And we end with Naruto calling him a cool guy. *shakes head*

 

Anyway, like I said, the massacre could have been an anchoring moment in the story. Something for Sasuke's evolution to hinge on, and something to help bring him full circle. Hell, it could have worked for Naruto as well, using the massacre as a small-scale version of how violence begets violence and how he wants to stop that cycle. But none of that happened. Naruto didn't stop the cycle, just like Sasuke never got to exonerhate the Uchiha name. His clan's massacre just got lost in the scattered marbles of this story.