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#16761 Ether

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:04 AM

Some of my friends who read other manga's are now afraid of those authors doing what kishi did.They were talking about fairy tail and was nervous about their pairings.

Don't worry, Kishimoto is one of a kind. I haven't seen an asspull/retcon of this level in any manga I've ever read (and I do read Bleach). It's especially silly to be worried about Fairy Tail, of all series. It's so straightforward and predictable that everyone can be 100% sure on what the author of that series is going for. That's why I don't like any Fairy Tail pairings, I hate obvious stuff (NS was never obvious to me, Naruto had to work for it).


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:05 AM

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YES. YES BETH IS DEAD IN THE DUMBEST WAY POSSIBLE. Seriously, watch it. NOW DARYL WILL HAVE MAN-PAIN FOREVER. 

Seriously "If he falls in love it'll be forever, he'll never stop." so if Bethyl really was a thing, and now she's dead Daryl will never be over her. Half a ship is more painful then no ship...I don't think I can bare to watch this oncoming train wreck because its going to be nasty. Carl was crushing on her too, and her sister Maggie had a meltdown...TOO MANY FEEELS. 

I kinda wanna see Daryl go to the dark-side like Vader now...but he wont because Beth taught him better then that before she went OOC. 

Even worse is that the writing for that episode is beyond sh*tty and she's given the most pathetic death on the show thus far. I don't like it,  I don't accept it. -returns to fanfiction land- 
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WATCH IT, REVEL IN THE PAIN WITH ME.  :argh:

 

 

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:07 AM

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IT REALLY IS ALL MY FAULT. 

NO! I SHOULD'T HAVE BROUGHT IT UP!



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:09 AM

Don't worry, Kishimoto is one of a kind. I haven't seen an asspull/retcon of this level in any manga I've ever read (and I do read Bleach). It's especially silly to be worried about Fairy Tail, of all series. It's so straightforward and predictable that everyone can be 100% sure on what the author of that series is going for. That's why I don't like any Fairy Tail pairings, I hate obvious stuff (NS was never obvious to me, Naruto had to work for it).

If that series does it, I'll quit on manga/anime. I'm not joking.

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:12 AM

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That face! -sobs- 

JUST DON'T POST ANY GIFS OF DARYL CARRYING HER DEAD BODY. I WILL DIE :argh: 

Of liver failure from drinking too much. 

 

NO! I SHOULD'T HAVE BROUGHT IT UP!

BUT YOU DID.  And Now I'm curled up in a ball crying. 


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:12 AM

If that series does it, I'll quit on manga/anime. I'm not joking.

You won't have to, it will end exactly the way you think it will. Mashima doesn't even hold back on the fanservice for the pairings he has in mind.



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:13 AM

That face! -sobs- 

JUST DON'T POST ANY GIFS OF DARYL CARRYING HER DEAD BODY. I WILL DIE :argh: 

Of liver failure from drinking too much. 

 

BUT YOU DID.  And Now I'm curled up in a ball crying. 

I'M SOWWY!



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:17 AM

That face! -sobs- 

JUST DON'T POST ANY GIFS OF DARYL CARRYING HER DEAD BODY. I WILL DIE :argh: 

Of liver failure from drinking too much. 

 

BUT YOU DID.  And Now I'm curled up in a ball crying. 

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:18 AM

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That's not very nice...



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:19 AM

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But she's not dead in that pic :zaru:

NO TEARS FOR YOU.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:22 AM

Don't worry, Kishimoto is one of a kind. I haven't seen an asspull/retcon of this level in any manga I've ever read (and I do read Bleach). It's especially silly to be worried about Fairy Tail, of all series. It's so straightforward and predictable that everyone can be 100% sure on what the author of that series is going for. That's why I don't like any Fairy Tail pairings, I hate obvious stuff (NS was never obvious to me, Naruto had to work for it).

 

Idk fairytail,i never read it so i don't know anything about it.But if what u say is true then despite all this they are still nervous,u can't blame them.Not just for this but various other mangas as well.



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:24 AM

The only manga that I have any remote interest right now is One Punch Man.
Kishi has succeded in eroding my desire to check out new manga, let alone manga written by him. Because as a reader you cant trust him anymore, he may be either trolling you or may just plain retcon everything. There the translation means = wast of my time.



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:26 AM

That's not very nice...

 

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I was just following the example of the manga that I love; Sasuke. Kishimoto showed us what it means to be a true hero

 

But she's not dead in that pic :zaru:

NO TEARS FOR YOU.

Thought about it but I couldn't do it. Too cold even for me


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:28 AM

Good.  :hm: 

I had a feeling you would try, because like Sasuke you hurt the ones you like! 


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:31 AM

Good.  :hm: 

I had a feeling you would try, because like Sasuke you hurt the ones you like! 

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:34 AM

OH GOD! KISHI UCHIHA  :argh:



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:37 AM

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OH GOD! KISHI UCHIHA  :argh:

KISHIHA.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:40 AM

Some of my friends who read other manga's are now afraid of those authors doing what kishi did.They were talking about fairy tail and was nervous about their pairings.

 

If it isn't published in SWJ, they should be fine. Though I doubt we'll ever see a manga again where the final pairings never shared more than a dozen or so sentances together. Even the kittentest of kitten final pairing has more interaction than the ones shown in this one, this is what needs to be drilled into the NH and SS fanboys, the issue is not that NaruSaku didn't happen, the issue is the lack of development for the pairngs that happened, the charactor assasinations, and the blatent disregard for the sourse material to make the pairings happened.

 

I'd have to do some crazy digging to find my older posts but for me personally I considered the possability of NaruHina all the way back during the Pain invasion, but I expected the development to happen  in the manga, I expected Naruto's feelings for Sakura to be dealt with, instead they chose to ignore all that and made this badly written fanfiction, that completely ignored the entirety of the manga, this movie is literally telling us, that all the interactions in the manga didn't matter, the reasons for the pairings happened before the manga started, during that 12 year period that was never covered.

 

What was the point of everything if, the only important factors were Hinata's and Sakura's feelings before Naruto even got caught painting the Hokages faces in the very first chapter. We still don't know what about Sasuke Sakura fell so deeply in love with him, we'll never know why Hinata loves Naruto, because she's never talked to him. We've not been shown one snippet that shows us why Hinata's and Sakura's feelings any different to the fangirls Sasuke had or the ones Naruto apparently has now.

 

We all know about First Love, everyone has them, but what about true love? The best romances in the world are about true loves not first loves....I'm off on another one of my rants again....I really don't think i'll ever get pass the kittentyness of this ending, I'll probably still be complaining about it 20 years from now.

 

This movie/manga makes me want to boot up season three of Dawsons' Creek and then the finalte, when True Love won over First Love. Remember my youth when romance didn't suck.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:43 AM

Idk fairytail,i never read it so i don't know anything about it.But if what u say is true then despite all this they are still nervous,u can't blame them.Not just for this but various other mangas as well.

They're nervous over nothing. Like I said, Kishimoto's sucking is on an entirely different level, other authors have nothing to do with it.

 

This movie/manga makes me want to boot up season three of Dawsons' Creek and then the finalte, when True Love won over First Love. Remember my youth when romance didn't suck.

Heh, I remember that show. I was rooting for Pacey/Joey too, Dawson/Joey was pretty much the NH of that series, no chemistry whatsoever (besides, I hate the 'soulmates' idea).


Edited by Ether, 04 December 2014 - 03:52 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:44 AM

Beth dying pissed me off and I felt she was the moment she put those damn scissors in her cast. I was heartbroken! She didn't get to see her sister alive. T_T I'm gonna miss her singing too.




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