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[rocci]

@darkrest
I considere the scene in hospital as a romantic scene from naruto to sakura.

[luffyq1]

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Yes. Just imagine if someone hand in a pic of two babies and one has pink hair, which turns out to be Sakura. I'm just saying.

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If Sakura turned out to be Naruto's brother it'd be even worse for us considering that the fandom labels our pair as a bro/sis type relationship.

[TouKen4Life3g]

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If Sakura turned out to be Naruto's brother it'd be even worse for us considering that the fandom labels our pair as a bro/sis type relationship.

It is a paring killer technique.

[TyranntX]

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If Sakura turned out to be Naruto's brother it'd be even worse for us considering that the fandom labels our pair as a bro/sis type relationship.

If there's an ultimate kitten move for this pairing, that would be a close second

[Gravenimage]

Darkres@ I would like to know about shounen manga where the male and female leads don't like each other and they don't get together in the end. Name a couple.

[Inferno180]

Speaking of mood killers, one thing I always found funny is how week in and out, fandom attitudes change from joy, to rage or whatever, positive to negative at many points.

 

I mean it was like, 615 was a high moment for the NH fandom, then 631 came around and that was a rage induced nightmare.

 

Now with stuff like the opening and endings bringing NH hype kinda like the cover of vol 64, well then theres still the stuff ahead but remember how it turned out to discontent again in 663?

 

Now I wonder if it will happen again soon, how this past week was the new opening and ending, but in the manga, the possibility of a NS recovery moment. Otherwise what will become of Sakura from what she displayed wanting his dream to come true?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Darkres@ I would like to know about shounen manga where the male and female leads don't like each other and they don't get together in the end. Name a couple.

Baka to Test, any pairing.

The main character despite liking the main female lead(Minami Shimada) doesnt end up with her because he's afraid of hurting  the other girl(Himeji) feelings so he ends up saying he likes Hideyoshi on which is a guy.(Light Novel ending)

 

In my opinion one of the best animes i watched.

 

 

@darkrest
I considere the scene in hospital as a romantic scene from naruto to sakura.

 

You might consider it as romantic or not but the point of my post is that it didnt progressed their relationship romantic wise.
That scene had nothing to do with Sakura's feelings or Naruto's he only showed his determination on fullfilling the promise on which you probably see it as romantic because of Naruto's determination.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 April 2014 - 11:33 AM.

[MoonDrop04]

YO! Everybody XD me and my horrible handwriting are back with another crazy NS theory for you guys!!!

Ok I've been re-reading the naruto manga for awhile now and something struck me as odd but in a weird way plans out into something as a very NS moment for us.

Here is Exhibit A:
http://www.mangabee.com/Naruto/666/11/

Now clearly we can see sakura is of course shocked and overwhelmed on how powerful Madara really is, but after reading it and the chapters afterwards could it be possible that Sakura would bring this up again once naruto wakes up??

The way I see it is that once Naruto wakes up he is naturally want to go straight back to the battlefield. As sakura being a medical ninja but more of Naruto's closest friend she tries to tell him to stop and not go yet. Naruto confused on why Sakura would want him to stay tells her he needs to go now since everyone is in trouble but sakura still refuses. She explains (hopefully in tears) that Madara is on a completely different level and that naruto was already almost killed by him once and she didn't want him going out there to be killed for real this time. And then she goes on to say (and this is just me adding some of my own madness into the mix!!) that losing Sasuke was painful enough but if she were to lose naruto it would be too unbearable for her to not have him alive and be with her anymore.

Now that's a good start to a NS moment but what about part 2 of it?? How would naruto respond?? What will he say or the real question....... What would he do??? I've got my own way of ending it but I'll have you guys have a crack at it and let you make your own version if it XD lol

All and all that's all I got X) so what do you guys think??

Edited by MoonDrop04, 06 April 2014 - 12:41 PM.

[redragon88]

@Dαrkrєrsŧ

 

Isn't Baka to Test more of a harem comedy? I haven't seen all the series but that's the impression I get from random youtube videos that I encounter about it.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@Dαrkrєrsŧ

 

Isn't Baka to Test more of a harem comedy? I haven't seen all the series but that's the impression I get from random youtube videos that I encounter about it.

Baka and Test is shounen comedy schoolife with romance and ecchi elements but the harem is not applicable because there's only two girls you can say ecchi.

 

 

Battle comes from the fact they use summons to fight the other classes in order to change their acomodations.

The summon's powerlevel is determined by their scores on tests.

It's shounen definitively.

 

https://answers.yaho...23185150AASrmzm

 

I would go for shoujo if wasnt that detail(The fightings and the romance it's not the focus of the story) and i would go for harem if there were more than two girls but it's not and is more applicable to say ecchi, it's a great comedy that's for sure.

 

I would label as shounen comedy schoolife but cant take shoujo and harem as main characteristics because the story doesnt focus on this but they have some of those elements(ecchi), on which are used for comedy.(Voyeur-kun)

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 April 2014 - 01:06 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Can I say something about this forum without anyone getting mad? This is constructive criticism and should be taken as such.

Keep in mind, I want to be completely fair on this and I don't want to start a fight. Take this as constructive criticism. For the members who will read this, I want you to keep this fact in mind: If you are not guilty of the criticism I am about to propose, then this post will have no affect on you what-so-ever. The moment you get pissed off just means that you are the very person I am referring to. I know who this applies to, but I am not going to mention them by name. Instead, like always, you know who you are. A lot who know me personally will also know who I am referring to and who I am NOT referring to.

Also make note that this is not directed at just one member, but rather several I have noticed and the behavior that comes with it. Truth be told, I am tired of dealing with this behavior and want to say this just once and especially for all the people who want to say something, but can't. I will also say that if you truly feel that I am wrong, then again this will not affect you in anyway. You have the right to completely ignore this post and bypass it altogether. It doesn't affect your life unless you want it to. Remember that. Self-determination. As far as you are concerned, this is just words. Words only have meaning if you give them meaning.

Alright, first off. Let me start by saying a true fact that we all should agree with: Opinions are only Opinions. No opinion is ever true fact nor should be treated as such. They can be based off facts, but never truly facts themselves. Opinions are subjective. They are merely ideas on situations or awareness. Opinions can be wrong as well as being right. It depends on what it is proven or what is not proven.

With that being said, some of you try to make it seem like your opinion is the word of god. That we must take your opinion as true fact and automatically assume that that is how things are. Some of you think as well have this problem that if a person doesn't automatically agree with you, then they must not be as intelligent as you and at times you try to use big words to make yourself feel special. Big words that are over-gratuitous just because you feel it makes you sound important. I can use big words too, but I rather speak with a language that anyone can understand not just to the apparent "high-class" members.

It is especially unnerving when I get responses like this:
 

"Well, someone has a hard time disagreeing with people."

Do you know how rude this sounds? Especially on a thread titled "debate thread" where these kinds of things are supposed to take place. Otherwise, why even have a forum at all? You might as well shut this place down if you have a problem with people disagreeing with you especially since this response is a double standard and it just means YOU can't take people disagreeing with you. I have another saying my grandmother used to use: "Look who is calling the kettle black."

You see, the other members of this forum are people too. People just like you who read the same manga and form their own opinions and even have the courtesy to listen to what you have to say. With all respect, you should be able to listen as well. Disagree or not. Some of you, the ones this post is directed at, do actually listen from time to time, but other times you become absolute hypocrites. Yes, I use the world hypocrites. No, it is not a bad word, but it is the only word that has the meaning I am trying to convey. I myself, am a hypocrite from time to time and I do admit this. It is a flaw all humans have. One difference is though is that I admit at times I am a hypocrite while others rather think they are immune to being such a person.

You might be asking me "What's your point" or  "what is the purpose of bringing this up." Well, this is a set up to something else I have noticed in the forum. Double standards in logic and thought process. I shall explain through example or samples if you will

-"You can't compare another anime couple to NaruSaku or certain situations to another manga because they are not the same thing."
Yet, right now in this debate thread, the very people who used this argument against me are using comparisons from other anime and manga to prove why their point is correct. Are you kidding me? You can't tell other people off for making comparisons and then start using them in your own arguments to make a point and expect the other person to "accept" this fact. That is just down right proves how self-determined you are to be right and how what I just mentioned above applies to you. You go for the low blows and yet tell the other person that it is an illegal maneuver like they can't use it against you. You either accept all of it or you accept none of it. You just can't blow someone's opinion off because you disagree with it and yet want me to listen to everything you have to say. Respect is what is required. You want me to listen to you, then you have to listen to me. Otherwise, why should I even take what you say seriously?

 

-"Hinata made vows/scene/words/gestures/moments that support NH in the end. So we have to see it as a threat."
Okay, so yes Hinata says and does this that are pro NaruHina, I am not denying this. However, my problem is is if Sakura does the same thing that supports NaruSaku, why does it all of a sudden mean nothing? Why on earth is Sakura's vows/development/thought process or anything of the sort that supports NaruSaku is automatically just blown off like "you can't take it as fact." Yet, if she does something with Sasuke or even thinks about him in anyway, you tells us we have to take it so seriously. No, that's not how things work and that's not how we should look at this manga. If the idea is to keep an open-mind you can't just close off your mind to parts of it because of whatever reason. That really is just plain pessimism. Half the time, when I see these kinds of ridiculous posts about certain stuff, I have to wonder if I am really in a NaruSaku fanclub website. Yes, there is such a thing as blind faith, but blind pessimism is just as real too. Maybe it's not that "NS moments don't exist," but rather you are so busy looking at all the negatives that this manga has and ignoring all the positives. Hell, maybe that is the reason why this manga is not suiting up to your fancy because you keep focusing on what you hate and not what you like. Of course, at times, I see people still be upset or mad even when they get exactly what they wanted which is something I still don't get.

-"I always have to be right."
While this is not a direct quote, it is sort of the attitude I see some members have. A lot of theories get made here which is great. We look at things never thought of before, but like I said some members have a problem accepting that maybe they could be wrong in their logic of thinking. I am not just talking about opinions on what they think about this manga that have no answer yet, but when they are actually proven wrong with facts despite them thinking what they feel is a fact. I have been wrong myself. Recently, while talking to someone really close to me about Sasuke and the recent chapter, they told me that maybe I reflect my anger for Sasuke as a character onto Naruto and lying to myself about certain "facts." She was right and I admitted to her I was wrong and perhaps it is my paranoia playing a part. After taking what she said to me, I saw a view point in this manga that helped me accept a lot of things I did not like. Sure, there are still stuff I did not like, but she helped me see things I never thought of before. She is also a NS fan, btw.

Back on topic though, I see members giving off this impression like they have to be right in what they say. If you prove them wrong, they change up their theory or they look at something else. Always changing to make sure they are right and you are wrong. When they are backed into a corner, then we get the whole "Someone can't disagree" response.

There is a saying that applies to this: "You cannot see the forest for the trees." You can't just look at one detail and assume it is the entire thing. Personally speaking, whenever I take a scene into consideration or a fact, I try to judge it against the manga entirely and how it plays a role. Sometimes I feel that scene plays a substandard role to fill a certain criteria. Sometimes I feel that scene has more merit. No, I don't judge scenes based on bias because I am not a NS fan only because I like the coupling. I like NS because I love the development between these two characters and how the writer sets it up. I don't know why people never look at the writing practices or tropes that do occur and take that into consideration.

Go to TV tropes and look at all the different styles to how certain elements can be used and how they can be used in the writer's favor to manipulate you, the reader, into thinking certain ways. Writers are like magicians and can be masters of illusion and deception. They make you focus on the right hand so you don't see what he is doing in his left.

A lot of old time members I am close with refuse to come to this forum ever again because they feel they are not being respected enough. Not because people disagree with them, but because they feel that people are not letting them have their own view point and being accused of not being real members because they have a more positive view of things. We have this problem before where members felt unwelcome because people who are being positive were being called "blind" or "delusional" and it is happening again.

My good friend Shadow Wolf being one of them. He wanted me to mention him by name as well.

I am already aware of how things are and what can be applied to me as well as other members. The question is, how many of you are aware of it as well?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 06 April 2014 - 05:54 PM.

[Hanabi]

does anybody know what this is?

sasuke is like

[咲耶姫]

It's a cross over picture between haikyu! and Naruto, the text say it's a drawing from Masashi Kishimoto, though the text is partly cut. It must be a picture from a Shonen Jump, I suppose, I don't really know. 

[Hanabi]

It's a cross over picture between haikyu! and Naruto, the text say it's a drawing from Masashi Kishimoto, though the text is partly cut. It must be a picture from a Shonen Jump, I suppose, I don't really know. 

ohh, thanks! kishi don't seem to treat naruto kindly in these magazine drawings

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's a cross over picture between haikyu! and Naruto, the text say it's a drawing from Masashi Kishimoto, though the text is partly cut. It must be a picture from a Shonen Jump, I suppose, I don't really know. 

Maybe promoting the game who has been lauched recently.

[Gojira]

might as well get other peoples' opinions on this
 
But is it more likely that Minato meant this in a platonic way or a non-platonic way?
 

[Gravenimage]

Again??? I kinda remember you asking the same question not too long ago.

[Gojira]

Did I? I don't have a good memory.

Edited by Pepsi, 06 April 2014 - 04:48 PM.

[HauntedCake]

might as well get other peoples' opinions on this
 
But is it more likely that Minato meant this in a platonic way or a non-platonic way?
 

Well it could be either tbh. But Kishi isn't helping by dragging Sakura feelings for both the boys out as much as he can

[Gojira]

lol NH fans

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