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[TouKen4Life3g]

You're putting Hinata on a pedestal, let alone wrong direction. You know, if she kept this same vow without exposing her love, I'll bet you wouldn't think this 100%.

[narusaku256]

Hey @4life what do you think is it possible that Sakura might have come to terms with her feelings when she was Naruto's support system? And I think Kakashi probably has a hint on Sakura's feelings towards Naruto, whatcha say?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hey @4life what do you think is it possible that Sakura might have come to terms with her feelings when she was Naruto's support system? And I think Kakashi probably has a hint on Sakura's feelings towards Naruto, whatcha say?

She falls in a line of "You're in love but you don't know that." She is Naruto's support, 100%. The whole Hokage, which for some people sake debunk the whole support Sasuke as Hokage or even herself when she joked about it, the whole dream, the whole saving friends for Naruto's sake, and so on. Plus she was "fired up" from Naruto's words from 628. I still don't understand what more do you want. Honestly, what's happening now is really telling.

[Gravenimage]

Pepsi@ let me make it clear for you to understand why Hinata will NOT have Naruto in the end.

 

Hinata is the following:

-side character. 

-pairing fodder

-plot device 

 

She is NOT the following:

-a main character 

-the heroine

-the male protagonist's love interest

 

Hinata is NOT important to the story in general. She's irrelevant at all. She will never have Naruto no matter what she says simply because she's NOT a main character and the doesn't revolves around her character. Kishi might plan for her to notice that Naruto and Sakura are in love and she will smile (the same reaction from 450 during the NS hug). That's when she will back off. Remenber this in shounen manga the female protagonist ALWAYS get together with the male protagonist, Naruto is not any different.

[narusaku256]

She falls in a line of "You're in love but you don't know that." She is Naruto's support, 100%. The whole Hokage, which for some people sake debunk the whole support Sasuke as Hokage or even herself when she joked about it, the whole dream, the whole saving friends for Naruto's sake, and so on. Plus she was "fired up" from Naruto's words from 628. I still don't understand what more do you want. Honestly, what's happening now is really telling.

Bro, it was a simple question. I did not doubt her feelings. I was talking about moment of realisation. Don't misunderstand my question. Ok, I'll make my question more simple. Is it possible that Sakura might have already realised that she loves Naruto when she was his support system?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bro, it was a simple question. I did not doubt her feelings. I was talking about moment of realisation. Don't misunderstand my question. Ok, I'll make my question more simple. Is it possible that Sakura might have already realised that she loves Naruto when she was his support system?

Oh I know. I usually answer it in a huge paragraph form because well that's just me. You can ask anyone else that I can't answer a simple yes or no. Lol. But to put it in a simple form: no. Or at least not yet.

[narusaku256]

Oh I know. I usually answer it in a huge paragraph form because well that's just me. You can ask anyone else that I can't answer a simple yes or no. Lol. But to put it in a simple form: no. Or at least not yet.

Oh god! How badly I wished for it XD Nevertheless she'll anytime now. And thanks btw.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Pepsi@ let me make it clear for you to understand why Hinata will NOT have Naruto in the end.

 

Hinata is the following:

-side character. 

-pairing fodder

-plot device 

 

She is NOT the following:

-a main character 

-the heroine

-the male protagonist's love interest

 

Hinata is NOT important to the story in general. She's irrelevant at all. She will never have Naruto no matter what she says simply because she's NOT a main character and the doesn't revolves around her character. Kishi might plan for her to notice that Naruto and Sakura are in love and she will smile (the same reaction from 450 during the NS hug). That's when she will back off. Remenber this in shounen manga the female protagonist ALWAYS get together with the male protagonist, Naruto is not any different.

Sorry but expressing because only she's a main character is irrelevant, there are other shounens or shoujo that shows the contrary like Sakurasou, Baka and Test and etc...

The solely reason why she's not going to be with Naruto is because of the approach of her feelings towards Naruto, Naruto is not an active character on the romance subplot he never did anything towards both Sakura or Hinata that causes their respectives feelings for move forward or develop the subplot.

 

Also the "plot device" and "Pairing fodder" applies to Sakura aswell since she's the central character of the subplot and even since she was introduced she's responsible about the theme love, and that's her only purpose on this story since she doesnt even have an objective of her own.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hm...funny. For those who reads SnK, well it appears there's a spoiler and well, I guess it appears that it used the tactic that I said that can kill a pairing: being related. Whether it's true or not, my only thought is, "Well, thank god it's not NaruSaku."

[TyranntX]

Pepsi@ let me make it clear for you to understand why Hinata will NOT have Naruto in the end.

 

Hinata is the following:

-side character. 

-pairing fodder

-plot device 

-completely useless

-very annoying

 

She is NOT the following:

-a main character 

-the heroine

-the male protagonist's love interest

-any help what so ever

 

Hinata is NOT important to the story in general. She's irrelevant at all. She will never have Naruto no matter what she says simply because she's NOT a main character and the doesn't revolves around her character. Kishi might plan for her to notice that Naruto and Sakura are in love and she will smile (the same reaction from 450 during the NS hug). That's when she will back off. Remenber this in shounen manga the female protagonist ALWAYS get together with the male protagonist, Naruto is not any different.

 Fixed XD.

 

But in all seriousness I have to agree. she just doesn't do much to be important or even helpful for that matter. Sakura started to pull her own weight during the Search for Sasuke story arch, and many people consider that filler. Hinata is yet to do something that hasn't backfired yet, or made all for nothing, or overshadowed. that's one of the reasons why I hate her as a character, and for some odd reason i hope there are others who see what I'm talking about and share my loathing for her.

 

NH fans, and even those who dont even ship always say sakura is useless but they don't even DARE to give Hinata a second look. WHY? Is it cause they think she's Pretty? is it her love for the hero? I really want to know why that is.

[rocci]

@darkrest
- naruto passiveness because his poal and hospital scene. It's his high romantic scene, after that kishi goes to sakura -> naruto for the part two until iron country arc. It only left resolution for both of them.

- naruto love triangle setting doesn't involve two girl and one boy. Kishi can easily make into that but he didn't.

[Gravenimage]

TyranntX@ you turned my post into a Hinata bash fest please follow the rules NO bashing.

 

Darkres@ I've seen it so many times before. In shounen manga both male and female leads get together, Naruto isn't any different. The fact Naruto introduced Hinata as" weird" and Kushina reinforced that with" don't fall for a weird one find someone like your mother". Might as well translate that to" don't fall for Hinata be with Sakura lol". I see Hinata not an important character, hell I think Konohamaru is more important to Naruto than her. Anyway agree to disagree.

[Kster95]

Holy crap, people always talk about how bad NB is, but its worse than you think. Its terrible there. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Holy crap, people always talk about how bad NB is, but its worse than you think. Its terrible there. 

What's up? Well, I know we can't really talk about outside here, but any related topic could contribute here.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

 

Darkres@ I've seen it so many times before. In shounen manga both male and female leads get together, Naruto isn't any different. The fact Naruto introduced Hinata as" weird" and Kushina reinforced that with" don't fall for a weird one find someone like your mother". Might as well translate that to" don't fall for Hinata be with Sakura lol". I see Hinata not an important character, hell I think Konohamaru is more important to Naruto than her. Anyway agree to disagree.

That's not the point, i said that just because Sakura is the lead doesnt mean that automatically makes it canon, saying she's lead doesnt make the pairing canon.
That's why i attacked that argument by showing other shounens that the female lead doesnt end up with the main character.

[Kster95]

What's up? Well, I know we can't really talk about outside here, but any related topic could contribute here.

 

Bias in general and ignoring logical things but whats new? 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@darkrest
- naruto passiveness because his poal and hospital scene. It's his high romantic scene, after that kishi goes to sakura -> naruto for the part two until iron country arc. It only left resolution for both of them.

- naruto love triangle setting doesn't involve two girl and one boy. Kishi can easily make into that but he didn't.

Naruto was passive the entire manga, both the poal and the hospital might be romantic but it's to the audience not the characters.
Sakura only perceived the romantic aspect of it because Sai told her that Naruto loved her and the hospital didnt had any romantic implications, Sakura didnt get any hint that Naruto might had feelings for her, it was a scene where Naruto showed his determination to bring Sasuke back and that made Sakura to ask Tsunade to train her to help Naruto.

It didnt had any romance implications to both characters neither developed it romantically wise.

 

Naruto did nothing in the entire manga regarding his feelings or Sakura, did nothing to resolve it implications neither to destroy some walls, it just that Sakura has all the role to do it but the funny part is that it's Naruto who's supposed to be after her and not Sakura after him because it's him who wants her.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 April 2014 - 11:10 PM.

[luffyq1]

Hm...funny. For those who reads SnK, well it appears there's a spoiler and well, I guess it appears that it used the tactic that I said that can kill a pairing: being related. Whether it's true or not, my only thought is, "Well, thank god it's not NaruSaku."

Don't read if you don't wanna be spoiled.

 

spoiler

Does it have something to do with Levi might being related to Mikasa?

Edited by luffyq1, 05 April 2014 - 11:22 PM.

[Gojira]

You're putting Hinata on a pedestal, let alone wrong direction. You know, if she kept this same vow without exposing her love, I'll bet you wouldn't think this 100%.

You're right I wouldn't, regardless I don't think I'm putting her on a pedestal. Though Hinata is a side character she's had more screentime than most of the rookies aside from Shikamaru and maybe Choji, and on top of that she's very popular and is standing on one of if not the most popular pairing, that's atleast a minor threat, at the very least I don't see why Kishi would even have to set himself up for the whole hand holding and Hinata vowing to herself to stop chasing Naruto and be with him since NS is pretty much endgame at this point, the backlash from fans is gonna sting like hell.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Don't read if you don't wanna be spoiled.
 

spoiler

Does it have something to do with Levi might being related to Mikasa?

spoiler

Yes. Just imagine if someone hand in a pic of two babies and one has pink hair, which turns out to be Sakura. I'm just saying.