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#16601 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:07 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 11 2013, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Given how Obito was the one who first met Sasuke and told/lied to him about Madara's past and the Kyuubi attack, I would think that Sasuke would at least confront him one more time.

But Sasuke only goes by the name of Madara. So pretty much, everything keeps pointing Madara for Sasuke. There's nothing that tells him otherwise. Obito was "introduced" to be an opponent to Naruto since they are the same. It's not that Tobi lied (minus Kyuubi attack), it's more how the story is told. So pretty much, it was actually true. It's the fact Madara is planning to put the world in illusion to make the world into his as well as making Itachi's sacrifice in vain.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

I love how Pierrot made Sakura say that Sasuke is the one she used to love. It's like they don't want SS to happen as much as we do. laugh.gif

Now, I know is filler so please don't start with the "Fillers don't count!", I just found it funny that Pierrot made Sakura refer to it like that.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:38 PM

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I love how Pierrot made Sakura say that Sasuke is the one she used to love. It's like they don't want SS to happen as much as we do. laugh.gif

Now, I know is filler so please don't start with the "Fillers don't count!", I just found it funny that Pierrot made Sakura refer to it like that.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 11 2013, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yeah, epic SS bridal save incoming. tongue.gif

And then when it happens in the anime all of the children that only see the anime will have a simultaneous WTF moment. And thus Pierrot ascends to GOD level trolling. laugh.gif

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 11 2013, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how Pierrot made Sakura say that Sasuke is the one she used to love. It's like they don't want SS to happen as much as we do. laugh.gif

Now, I know is filler so please don't start with the "Fillers don't count!", I just found it funny that Pierrot made Sakura refer to it like that.

I second this. I used to joke about favoring one paring over many, but now, well, it's clear as day. If I know better, if they were to end somewhere and place the anime on hold, I bet they will do something strong NS moment for the end. Think how they did that in FT for NatsuxLucy. What a unexpected morning wake-up. laugh.gif

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Indeed! He's like that from Gundam Seed: making the impossible the possible...even though there's a limit, but who should I judge Kishi. hm.png

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:24 PM

lol, maybe...

anyway, how did react SS fans to this if someone of you know this?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 11 2013, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol, maybe...

anyway, how did react SS fans to this if someone of you know this?

Er. I only know anti-SS fans reactions. Needlesstosay. it's funny. I don't know any SS fans but yeah, let them be I guess I can say.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:29 PM

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Yeah the way Sakura referred to sasuke as used to love was funny and this filler does take place after the white zetsu incident. Now if only we can see this mentality in the manga of her getting over him. The way Sakura talked kinda reminded me of the ep 235, the filler where Naruto says he still loves Sakura laugh.gif

Yeah they are fillers and don't count but hopefully things go this way in the manga. Well Naruto still most likely loves Sakura, Sakura may be getting over Sasuke. Just need to see where the manga goes.

Also for Crimson, there was no reason Sakura fell for Sasuke, it was just an idealistic love. She had it but it never really made Sasuke feel any different. The biggest point of her love was more or less just that, idealism and part of who he was, just Sasuke did not give a crap. Sasuke never had anything from Sakura either, well aside from finding her annoying from time to time he only cared for her as a comrade, nothing more. Narutos love for Sakura started off in the same way we can say, but it turned into much more mainly as they grew, basically events like being saved from Gaara began to make Sakura notice him more and then the POLT. Naruto would have brought Sasuke back to Sakura even if it made him lose his own chances but he would still do it to also protect his own bond with Sasuke and hope Sakura would still notice him in a better light. He would not take advantage of Sasuke being gone either, he felt he did not deserve Sakura, he basically shows nobility in this to not take advantage of Sasuke being gone or just tell Sakura how he feels, he would only confess to her unless he got the Sasuke thing done or if Sakura came to him on her own choice, not because he wanted, because she wanted to. Hinata's love for Naruto could also have started in the same way. Though unlike SasuSaku, this actually exists and had interaction. One thing NS and NH fans can agree on, both pairings have their merits and have one who loves someone else still returning a good amount to another character. For us in NS, its though Sakura loves Sasuke, she showed times when she put Naruto above Sasuke and even herself, a few times in the manga, the point for many of us in NS in not naruto loving sakura or sakura showing friendship for naruto, its that aside from the longest development, its the selflessness they each displayed to each other many times, the high and low events, many of the good, bad, events. Joy, pain, anger, confusion, hope, etc. All these have been caused by external forces between them and even on each other (Naruto caused Sakura pain and vice versa in some events) and no matter what has happened they still come through, thats why we love this pairing.

NH has a few just on a smaller scale (well to most of us on this site anyways) but SasuSaku is just non-existent. Literally the answer for why Sakura loves Sasuke, it was just idealisim and Kishi even called it selfish. Even with the author saying this, well thats not something that should be kept on a main character in the end now is it? Especially when we have seen the merits of it being a weakness of hers, basically Sakura can overcome this weakness by letting go of the crush. Sasuke is not a goal for her anymore, he is a weakness she must overcome.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 11 2013, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how Pierrot made Sakura say that Sasuke is the one she used to love. It's like they don't want SS to happen as much as we do. laugh.gif

Now, I know is filler so please don't start with the "Fillers don't count!", I just found it funny that Pierrot made Sakura refer to it like that.


It doesn't count because its filler. However it expresses Pierot's thoughts on the pairings in the manga. They know NS is the endgame pairing just like the rest of the Japanese fans.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Apr 11 2013, 06:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It doesn't count because its filler. However it expresses Pierot's thoughts on the pairings in the manga. They know NS is the endgame pairing just like the rest of the Japanese fans.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:48 PM

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:49 PM

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They know it.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Apr 11 2013, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They know it.

Really now? Care to explain?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 11 2013, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now? Care to explain?

Typical shonen genre. Japanese people are used to those kind of stories.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 11 2013, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now? Care to explain?


because he know it


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Apr 11 2013, 06:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Typical shonen genre. Japanese people are used to those kind of stories.

Which explains the hundreds of thousands of Japanese fans who support non-NS pairings.
The hero ending up with the nadeshiko-type character is just as typical... sleep.gif


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:58 PM

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Which explains the hundreds of thousands of Japanese fans who support non-NS pairings.
The hero ending up with the nadeshiko-type character is just as typical... sleep.gif


Sakura a nadeshiko-type character ? No way!! laugh.gif

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 11 2013, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which explains the hundreds of thousands of Japanese fans who support non-NS pairings.
The hero ending up with the nadeshiko-type character is just as typical... sleep.gif

Supporting a pairing does not always mean that they think it will be canon.
80-90% of shonen magas end with hero + heroine tsundere. So why bother. There will always be fans who believe something different.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 11 2013, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which explains the hundreds of thousands of Japanese fans who support non-NS pairings.
The hero ending up with the nadeshiko-type character is just as typical... sleep.gif

Most Japanese fans don't rant on YouTube and western social media.

Btw, a trend I've noticed is the hero ends up with the shy awkward girl typically in most high school manga, sakurasou no pet na kanojo, angel beats etc.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:00 PM

Lol well this is a funny morning I'm seeing. An opposite mood from yesterday.




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