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[holy_demon]

The pair have seen each others worth now and now must move forward towards mutual acknowledgement.

Exactly, instead of constantly beating around the bush, they should just tell each other the appreciation and concern for each other. Either of them have it written all over the face but keep silent instead (even Yamato and Sai were frustrated about them )

what makes me angry about the anti-NS is that they double standard everything narusaku. if it's sakura offering to feed naruto ramen, or blushes for him, or hugs him while caressing his neck for gods sakes, they pass it off as being like siblings, but if naruto so much as says hi to hinata, it's canon.

but again, if naruto only liked sakura as a friend, then he wouldn't feel the desire to tell her how he feels.

also, even though they are currently still only friends, that doesn't mean their feelings for one another aren't more than mere friendship.

but seriously, who could believe that he only liked her as friend from that statement?

Not all anti-NS is pro-NH, the anti-NS I know bash NaruHina like no tomorrow (their argument against Hinata's confession was totally convincing). They're essentially anti-pairing (they even bash MinaKushi for its clicheness) and see Kishimoto as bad romance writer so they won't ever near the double-standard zone.

We have to consider the fact that Sakura is Naruto's only and dearest female friend. Should he ever fall in love (assuming he's hetero), Sakura would be his obvious choice. Plus, among the big 4 (including SN), NaruSaku is the only ones who can smile, cry and express a huge range of emotion to each other. I started to like because of their intimate friendship.

Anyway, I generally don't acknowledge the "like him/her as sibling", because I see sibling affection as the closest kind of affection to romance. Some siblings are even closer to each other than lovers (me and my brother, for instance, and we're both straight males lol)

Edited by holy_demon, 04 October 2010 - 05:33 AM.

[maliousdei]

^ that's not exactly an easy or a like event to happen yet, but i get the feeling as the war continues, more will develop between them

here's how stupid it would sound if naruto meant he liked sakura as a friend.

'how can i tell her i like her as a friend if i can't save her first love?'

they were already friends to begin with, their is no need to tell her that. they wouldn't be friends if they didn't like each other.

but like i said earlier, even though they are currently still only friends, that doesn't mean their feelings for one another aren't more than mere friendship.

Edited by Vyse, 04 October 2010 - 11:32 AM.

[holy_demon]

here's how stupid it would sound if naruto meant he liked sakura as a friend.

'how can i tell her i like her as a friend if i can't save her first love?'

they were already friends to begin with, their is no need to tell her that. they wouldn't be friends if they didn't like each other.

but like i said earlier, even though they are currently still only friends, that doesn't mean their feelings for one another aren't more than mere friendship.

We could paraphrase your quote a bit to suit the scenario: "How am I worthy of her friendship if I can't even save a friend?"

Nevertheless, they're very close friends, and just a slightest mutual desire could push them into lovers (I don't think Kishimoto will move into the area of "friends with benefits"). Naruto, on occassions, has daydreamed about Sakura, and Sakura has blushed to the sight Naruto (even during her "fake" confession lol)

Edited by holy_demon, 04 October 2010 - 06:53 AM.

[jason voorhees]

maliousdei@ watch the double post

[Miss Soupy]

While I partly admire a faithful love, realistically, 3 years of constant love with no interaction or any promise just doesn't make sense to me (we already know how hard it is to maintain long-distrance established relationship). I'd rather believe that Naruto fell in love with her twice, once in the beginning of part 1, and second after watching her healing Kankuro in part 2(the line "Sakura-chan is amazing!"). Then I'd have the reason to believe that Sakura has stopped loving Sasuke, and to avoid double-standard.

But by saying that you make Naruto's love out to be fickle, and Naruto is the least likely person in the entire manga to be so. He didn't stop caring about Sasuke after 3 years time, even though Sasuke had cut all of his bonds with him. Why would he stop loving Sakura? He might have wanted to, or tried to resign himself to the idea that Sakura would always love Sasuke and not him (we have seen that he maintains this idea), but that doesn't mean he stopped loving her. He is constant in things like that, and that in itself is a huge argument for NaruSaku because it would just be out of character for Naruto to change his mind about her.

[catsi563]

Exactly correct.

furthermore if you look at the statement logically. it torpedoes NaruHina and SasuSaku for the same reasons. If it is implausible for Naruto to still be in love with Sakura, then logically it is implausible for Sakura to still love Sasuke, Sasuke to still love Sakura((not that he ever did)), Hinata to still love Naruto and so on and so forth.

there is though some argument that can be made for Naruto to not so much fall back in love but to have that love goosed by the part 2 seeing Sakura crack the earth.

Ive heard similar stories where someone claimed to fall in love with their signifigant other all over again.

It can be argued that naruto did the same with Sakura. he was already in love with her and BAM she cracks the earth and to quote the barenaked ladies "" it feels just like hes falling for the first time.""

[theorangehokage]

 i couldnt have said all this better my self! You guys are awesome! Shippu-chan i love your avatar  lol xD
but narusaku is highly going to happen. Some of you may disagree  but, Kishimoto will make what paring HE wants to be canon., and we will have to respect his descision...most of all, this pairing(narusaku) is by far the most logical paring as the other parings such as NaruHina and Sasusaku are fanfictional, no offense to any fans of these pairings but just sayin. Also, maybe in the next few chaoter,i am hoping in 512 but anyways. We may see something that may make the pairing Narusaku very obvious. I am hoping so though... But most likely in the next chapter they will go back to village and we will see a NS or NH moment. What are your predictions guys.

[Cloud]

But most likely in the next chapter they will go back to village and we will see a NS or NH moment. What are your predictions guys.

Er....

I'll just leave this here.

[Gravenimage]

 i couldnt have said all this better my self! You guys are awesome! Shippu-chan i love your avatar  lol xD
but narusaku is highly going to happen. Some of you may disagree  but, Kishimoto will make what paring HE wants to be canon., and we will have to respect his descision...most of all, this pairing(narusaku) is by far the most logical paring as the other parings such as NaruHina and Sasusaku are fanfictional, no offense to any fans of these pairings but just sayin. Also, maybe in the next few chaoter,i am hoping in 512 but anyways. We may see something that may make the pairing Narusaku very obvious. I am hoping so though... But most likely in the next chapter they will go back to village and we will see a NS or NH moment. What are your predictions guys.

When Naruto returns to Konoha its likely that there will be a NS moment but NH moment highly unlikely because Naruto has never shown any romantic interest in Hinata whatsoever.

[jason voorhees]

kish had some dislike for hinatas fans at the interview i dont think hinata is going to be a problem romantic wise she has no reason to be shown.

[Gravenimage]

kish had some dislike for hinatas fans at the interview i dont think hinata is going to be a problem romantic wise she has no reason to be shown.

Not to be cocky but yeah I think so too I mean has Kishi actually shown any sign of development between Hinata and Naruto during the entire manga?

[jason voorhees]

Not to be cocky but yeah I think so too I mean has Kishi actually shown any sign of development between Hinata and Naruto during the entire manga?

it between ss an ns simple as that an everyone knows how i feel about it.

[theorangehokage]

I am sorry my english is no good some timesbut i mant NO naruhina lol

Edited by theorangehokage, 05 October 2010 - 12:30 AM.

[holy_demon]

But by saying that you make Naruto's love out to be fickle, and Naruto is the least likely person in the entire manga to be so. He didn't stop caring about Sasuke after 3 years time, even though Sasuke had cut all of his bonds with him. Why would he stop loving Sakura? He might have wanted to, or tried to resign himself to the idea that Sakura would always love Sasuke and not him (we have seen that he maintains this idea), but that doesn't mean he stopped loving her. He is constant in things like that, and that in itself is a huge argument for NaruSaku because it would just be out of character for Naruto to change his mind about her.

Caring doesn't equate to loving. Love is usually short-lived, and the lack of interaction in 3 years eventually got Sakura out of Naruto's head. He doesn't even try to forget about Sakura. Naruto cares about everybody, making it even easier for him to temporarily forget about Sakura. Plus, they don't have a commitment to keep him reminded of his love. However, the sight of Sakura instantly gave him newer reasons to love her again.

[maliousdei]

holy demon, not to be offensive to you, but your kind of making it sound like naruto doesn't love sakura at all.

[Cloud]

kish had some dislike for hinatas fans at the interview i dont think hinata is going to be a problem romantic wise she has no reason to be shown.

I thought you said you took interviews with a grain of salt? You also said interviews weren't good for evidence.

Contradicting yourself?

[Miss Soupy]

Caring doesn't equate to loving. Love is usually short-lived, and the lack of interaction in 3 years eventually got Sakura out of Naruto's head. He doesn't even try to forget about Sakura. Naruto cares about everybody, making it even easier for him to temporarily forget about Sakura. Plus, they don't have a commitment to keep him reminded of his love. However, the sight of Sakura instantly gave him newer reasons to love her again.

Love is not short lived. Crushes are. Love is one of the hardest emotions to get over, which is why Naruto most likely never could. And due to the magnitude of the POAL, Naruto definitely was in love with her. Naruto has shown the purest form of love out of the big three romances because he put her happiness over his own.

[Dreamer]

When Naruto returns to Konoha its likely that there will be a NK moment but NH moment highly unlikely because Naruto has never shown any romantic interest in Hinata whatsoever and Sakura keeps punching Naruto.. Besides Karin has to play a bigger role now that she's in Konoha.

Fixed.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 05 October 2010 - 04:25 AM.

[holy_demon]

holy demon, not to be offensive to you, but your kind of making it sound like naruto doesn't love sakura at all.

I've always had the impression that Sakura actually cares/loves Naruto more than he does her. Naruto is constantly worried about his guilt, his ideals, his dream, his vision... etc, while Sakura was the one concerned for Naruto, always looking out for him.

Even Naruto's confession to Sai showed how he's worried more about his pride and virtue, than expressing his affection to Sakura.

[Grace]

I've always had the impression that Sakura actually cares/loves Naruto more than he does her. Naruto is constantly worried about his guilt, his ideals, his dream, his vision... etc, while Sakura was the one concerned for Naruto, always looking out for him.

Even Naruto's confession to Sai showed how he's worried more about his pride and virtue, than expressing his affection to Sakura.

I dunno about that... Seemed his worry was over whether he was a worthy guy to tell her how he felt; he mentioned not being able to do so because he couldn't keep his lifetime promise to her, and we all know just how much promises mean to Naruto (especially when they're as staked as the PoaL was). Not sure I'd really say Naruto's a character that puts too much stock in his pride and virtue, if the way he was willing to beg on his knees for Sasuke's reprieve can be used as an example. For as loudly as he can brag about being the number one awesome dude around, he's almost always the first to risk everything he has for what he believes in. *shrug* That carries over to whenever his feelings for Sakura are involved; he'll step aside in order to make her happy in the ways he believes he can.

Maybe the reason it seems Sakura loves him more is because she's much more open with her feelings whether consciously or subconsciously? Whereas Naruto's put up a "don't touch, don't tell" barrier, Sakura has nothin' to really hold her back. Personally I think their feelings for each other are about even anymore--but then, how are we supposed to measure that, and why would we really want to?

was that all too repetitive? i feel like i just repeated myself for some reason XD;;