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#1641 redragon88

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:26 PM

he says that sakuras feelings have changed even in a vacuum the implication that she doesn't feel the same is there

 

Which is why I don't get why Viz would write "on a totally different level".

 

Such an expression is used when something has become more powerful than before, which is not appropriate if the intention was to establish Sakura's feelings as platonic.

 

Viz didn't even try to make it vague, they literally chose to deliver to opposite meaning about Sakura's feelings. That level of mistranslation should not be done, which is why I asked if there was a chance one could unintentionally twist the meaning in the original raw to imply that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke got stronger.



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:28 PM

 
Which is why I don't get why Viz would write "on a totally different level".
 
Such an expression is used when something has become more powerful than before, which is not appropriate if the intention was to establish Sakura's feelings as platonic.
 
Viz didn't even try to make it vague, they literally chose to deliver to opposite meaning about Sakura's feelings. That level of mistranslation should not be done, which is why I asked if there was a chance one could unintentionally twist the meaning in the original raw to imply that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke got stronger.

While not the best choice of words, you could still say that level as in which level not in a higher level. Like let's say Sakura already hit 10 which is romantic love. Now she's in a level of a sibling or just close friends.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:30 PM

 

Honest question:

 

If you read 675 in a vacuum (as in not taking into consideration the rest of the story and Sakura's development), is there any actual chance one could interpret Kakashi's words as Sakura's love becoming mature?

No. Even if have no knowledge of what's been going on, you don't know the characters etc. The conclusion remains final. This character called Sakura wants to save this other character called Sasuke from the darkness, just like this other character called Naruto. That even to this day I still have no clue why. This is what we understand from the character called Kakashi. :wink: :D :smile:


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:52 PM

it's the same as they mistranslated kushina's words about the advice on girls.... Why they did a such thing? Increasing pairing wars? Even though I think that Viz' translator makes some errors sometimes.... their translation aren't perfect, not only regarding pairing stuff, but in general....


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:55 PM

it's the same as they mistranslated kushina's words about the advice on girls.... Why they did a such thing? Increasing pairing wars? Even though I think that Viz' translator makes some errors sometimes.... their translation aren't perfect, not only regarding pairing stuff, but in general....

Dirty business. It's a pity. :shrug:


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:59 PM

lel this is what a SS fan

"For people who says sasuke is thanking the vest . How stupid can you get ? Sakura vest reflects sakura herself .not to mention The raw says thanks to You."

LOL Pretty much SS in a nutshell XD . The thing with this interpretation and why it doesn't make sense is that even if Sasuke said "Thanks to You" that thanks would be meant for Obito since he's the one that Sasuke was having a conversation with not Sakura if it was Sakura he was talking with then yes they can say that but that wasn't the case .

 

Either way Sasuke was being thankful to the vest being there and his ability that helped him with this situation . it could also be interpreted as Sasuke just being thankful of the situation that helped him get out of there but that doesn't mean he's thanking Obito and Sakura bc the situation for how the vest happened to be there was not done on purpose by them(Obito and Sakura) but it was bc of coincidental circumstances  . 

 

BTW Sasu - Vest Chan and Hina - Rock Kun are my OTP's now they so fit together  :wibble:


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:09 PM

Did someone talk about HinaRock-Kun. :lulz:

Take an honest look at them and you'll fall in love with them instantly.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:11 PM

Dirty business. It's a pity. :shrug:

Atleast the dubbed got it right


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:14 PM

Did someone talk about HinaRock-Kun. :lulz:

Take an honest look at them and you'll fall in love with them instantly.

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That's my OTP they look so perfect together and now they have SasuVest - Chan to keep them company   :wub:

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Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 21 July 2014 - 09:16 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:15 PM

Hinata love rock.
Sasuke love vest.
And naruto love cherry blossom tree.

Sakura love one of ramen topping....(menma) :fu:

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:18 PM

Yup, if he was thanking somebody it would be both Obito and Sakura
 
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This is what takL said:
it=the range. its same as saying sasuke reached there. i just thought the subject better not change in an eng sentence unless necessary.
as for what sasuke thanks, you have to ask sasuke.maybe sakura and obito for coming all the way to find him.maybe sakuras vest as the panel shows.maybe sakura's bumbling for urging him to be there to support her. maybe god. maybe all the above

Thanks! So he did leave it vague. Fair enough, I can agree it wasn't specified. It could be all of the above.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 21 July 2014 - 09:20 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:20 PM

Thanks! So he did leave it vague. Fair enough, I can agree it wasn't specified. It could be all of the above.

So wait, who's right?

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:24 PM

So wait, who's right?

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:25 PM

So wait, who's right?

In the end, everyone has their own opinion.
六道仙人、VIZ=vest
TakL=vague (As of now, it IS vague like TakL says. )
咲耶姫、me=Obito and Sakura

Choose the translation you like. TakL is the safe pick.
But I can say, there wasn't any "lucky me" like the others have stated.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 21 July 2014 - 09:28 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:27 PM

TakL's translations are almost always vague it seems.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:29 PM

he says that sakuras feelings have changed even in a vacuum the implication that she doesn't feel the same is there

I love the fact that fans (because at this point we all know who we're talking about) think it changed from Like to Love when it was apparently Love back in Part 1


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:30 PM

TakL's translations are almost always vague it seems.

It's safe that way. Translators get involved in a lot of fandom war without them knowing, so they try to make it vague as possible. If I, or 六道仙人 were in his position, we'd probably do the same.

For example, my translation regarding this scene could be taken advantage from a SS fan, they can post it on their tumblr or twitter or NF. If that happens, opposing forces(anti-SS) would brand me as a SS fan, and I will lose all credibility as a biased translator, even if I wasn't.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:31 PM

That's my OTP they look so perfect together and now they have SasuVest - Chan to keep them company   :wub:

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The shorten version is SaVe... aka it was Destiny that allowed this couple to be : )


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:35 PM

It's safe that way. Translators get involved in a lot of fandom war without them knowing, so they try to make it vague as possible. If I, or 六道仙人 were in his position, we'd probably do the same.

For example, my translation regarding this scene could be taken advantage from a SS fan, they can post it on their tumblr. If that happens, opposing forces(anti-SS) would brand me as a SS fan, and I will lose all credibility as a biased translator, even if I wasn't.

I got ya that makes sense especielly considering WWIII going on at NF right now holy kitten.


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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:37 PM

WWIII ? Nothing pairing related has happened for a while, why is there war? Don't tell me that the SS fans are screaming canon with THAT ending!

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