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#1641 Chucky-kun

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

Are all the mangas on break for 3 weeks or is it just naruto?

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Dec 31 2012, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, that was fun. happy.gif I am completely aware I responded to a hardcore NaruHina troll who would never listen to what I have to say but I love doing this. It increases my faith in NaruSaku being the end pairing every time. I'll be sure to help you with those NaruHina fans on your video, Slextrem. It's hard to deal with their stubbornness alone. And I agree, they probably ambushed the video because they feel threatened and angry.

Wow, I can't believe someone actually took the time to respond to that post. I took one look at it and closed the browser because it looked like a giant waste of time. Groundless arguments are groundless. Great job putting together a response though! It seems we share a lot of the same opinions regarding what that user said. smile.gif

QUOTE (ALESSE @ Dec 31 2012, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey don't worry about that guy. He just got super defensive for nothing. Cause he knows deep down what you said and pointed out is true. I mean come on lok at his argument points, beyond biased. Half his facts are lies. Just ignore them and you'll be fine. You made people like me and many other narusaku fans feel better, not that I doubted this pairing one bit to begin with. We ve been patient for ever and know what this manga is about. Every character needs there moment and you made a great analysis of that. Just ignore the haters and they ll fade away. Our time will come. And don't OU think that there's seems to be a reason why kishimoto has minimized naruto and sakuras interaction for a reason. Something's gonna happen and it's gonna be big. Just wait and keep that guys on ur list of obnoxious ppl u have to brag to when it happens.

Thanks for posting this. It means a lot to me when people tell me that. The bolded is the reason why I want to upload videos. I like making my fellow NaruSaku shippers happy. c: <3

I also believe that something big is awaiting them. I get suspicious when an author pushes the largest developed couple under the rug to give development to the lesser pairings, especially when it's right near the end of a series. They're sneaky. They trick the viewers into believing that it's over, and then they twist it all around in the end. I'm crossing my fingers that this is what Kishimoto is doing.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:47 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Dec 31 2012, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, I can't believe someone actually took the time to respond to that post. I took one look at it and closed the browser because it looked like a giant waste of time. Groundless arguments are groundless. Great job putting together a response though! It seems we share a lot of the same opinions regarding what that user said. smile.gif



Oh, I'm completely aware of how much wasted time it is. I like to prove them wrong though. Hence my massive wall of NH debunks. tongue.gif However, I can't do it that much. NaruHina fans eventually get on my nerves to the point that I have trouble remaining civil with them. At least the disrespectful troll-types. Which is why I usually stay at this site alone. Thank you! happy.gif

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 02:31 AM

QUOTE (KnS @ Dec 31 2012, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I rarely make personal comments, but I'm going to say this for the sake of perspective. As I type this post I have two family members on their way to death's door; one dying of inoperable cancer, the other in the hospital after suffering a stroke.

By comparison, all this pairing stuff is so petty to my eyes. I'm not judging anyone for their passions, I'm just saying that anyone who has that much time and energy to spend clawing at another fan's sensible and respectful opinion is very lucky. It means they don't have any real problems in their life if feeling threatened by an unconfirmed pairing in an unfinished manga can consume them.

There are just some people who cannot resist behaving in an ugly manner. The anonymity of the internet emboldens some to say things they would never have the courage to say to your face. Feel sorry for them if you can, and don't let them get under your skin. Ignoring hatefulness and nonsense is the best way to neutralize it.

It may sound corny, but I find myself wondering what Naruto would think if he knew about the pairing wars that rage on his behalf. He's represented as such a kind hearted, optimistic guy who cares about people without demanding anything in return. Are we fans of Naruto, or only our expectations for his love life?

In my opinion, Naruto's consistently selfless dedication to Sakura's happiness means more than anything else we've seen so far. Time and logic are still on our side. Let's all try to remember that.

Cheers -- oh, and Happy New Year! smile.gif


And not just Naruto as well, I see a lot of them say they are huge Hinata fans, but the way they act goes WAY against how Hinata would react, it like they say they like how nice she is and everything but when someone voices there opinion on a pairing they like, they just lash out and attack, and they have the gull to try and say they like Hinata for her personality when they acting completely different.

Edited by zatheko, 01 January 2013 - 02:33 AM.


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 02:43 AM

Here's the raw of the chapter



let's go = 行きましょう

Correct me if i'm wrong he did say hinata? - 日向/ひなた
or it's just "let's go".

Happy new year.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 01 January 2013 - 03:01 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:17 AM

ひなた = Hi-Na-Ta

That much I can read.

Anyways, I actually think it won't start off with a color page of Naruto and Hinata and I think it'll be the Juubi. We don't know its official colors yet, it would be a good opportunity.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 1 2013, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's the raw of the chapter



let's go = 行きましょう

Correct me if i'm wrong he did say hinata? - 日向/ひなた
or it's just "let's go".

Happy new year.


On the last panel, he says 「行くぞ ヒナタ」, in Romaji, it's "Ikuzo Hinata", which translates to "Let's go Hinata"

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"I'm sorry I didn't believe. But I'd given up believing in so much, until I met you. From the first day I saw you, you were everything I ever wanted to believe in. You can do this, Diana. I know you can...But I have to go."

"What? What are you saying?"

"It's okay, this is what I came here to do. I can save today, but you... you can save the world."


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:28 AM

Hinata will awaken her mangekyo byakugan and then she will detect the juubi's weakpoint.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:34 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Dec 31 2012, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata will awaken her mangekyo byakugan and then she will detect the juubi's weakpoint.



laugh.gif I laugh. On a serious note, I'm pretty sure Kishimoto might allow her to possibly land a hit on Obito. Unless he decides to K.O. her like he did in the Pain Arc after a high moment (I probably shouldn't find that possibility funny xD). However, given how Kishi is now Hinata worshipping, I'm pretty sure that won't happen. A hit with the help of Naruto, at the most.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 January 2013 - 03:35 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:40 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 1 2013, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laugh.gif I laugh. On a serious note, I'm pretty sure Kishimoto might allow her to possibly land a hit on Obito. Unless he decides to K.O. her like he did in the Pain Arc after a high moment (I probably shouldn't find that possibility funny xD). However, given how Kishi is now Hinata worshipping, I'm pretty sure that won't happen. A hit with the help of Naruto, at the most.

I don't think she'll land a hit on Obito. She uses closeranged combat and is not fast enough. Or, who knows how this new superpower will affect her. I would laugh if it has side effects lol, can she take this much chakra? Hahah maybe Sakura will heal her again laugh.gif

Lol I think I'm overtired hahaahha

Edited by sushi., 01 January 2013 - 03:41 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:58 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Dec 31 2012, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think she'll land a hit on Obito. She uses closeranged combat and is not fast enough. [/b]Or, who knows how this new superpower will affect her. I would laugh if it has side effects lol, can she take this much chakra? Hahah maybe Sakura will heal her again[/b] laugh.gif

Lol I think I'm overtired hahaahha


Maybe. But really who knows with Kishi. It's true when he focuses on his characters, he either goes out of his way to really make them shine (Even to the point of exaggeration. 615 says hello.) or goes out of their way to make them absolutely terrible. He can't really find a nice balance either way. I don't really believe her character development is over yet, despite the slight finality in the latest chapter.

And at the bolded ... my evil side wants that to happen. tongue.gif It'd be nice to see the Hinata love die down a little. Funny since I don't hate Hinata. Maybe it's her fanbase bugging me lol.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 January 2013 - 03:58 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:21 AM

Funny, I actually thought that too much chakra giving will cause someone to pass out but I don't think that will happen.

You know, if Kishi really wants to shine all of them, it seems like he's really doing it and it all begins with Neji/Hinata. He can do if he really plans it. Otherwise, more Hinata centric will be questionable. Right now, I'm neutral to it. That said it seems like Sakura will be the last person to get into the fiasco. If you go back to 573 and 609, she always appear last in terms of K11 group. Hm. Time will tell.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:38 AM

Since watching this series from the beginning Sakura development always comes last. In the order of team 7 it goes like this. Sasuke>Naruto>Sakura


 


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:40 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 1 2013, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Funny, I actually thought that too much chakra giving will cause someone to pass out but I don't think that will happen.

You know, if Kishi really wants to shine all of them, it seems like he's really doing it and it all begins with Neji/Hinata. He can do if he really plans it. Otherwise, more Hinata centric will be questionable. Right now, I'm neutral to it. That said it seems like Sakura will be the last person to get into the fiasco. If you go back to 573 and 609, she always appear last in terms of K11 group. Hm. Time will tell.


in a way last can be good if you know what i mean
SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST more drame can be added!!! or something all i know is should she die she will be back 100% sure

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:49 AM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Jan 1 2013, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
in a way last can be good if you know what i mean
SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST more drame can be added!!! or something all i know is should she die she will be back 100% sure



But should we really get our hopes up? Not trying to sound pessimestic here but Sakura often gets the shaft when he comes to character limelights. I believe she'll get some panel time very soon and while I hope it's absolutely satisfying, I can't help but keep my hopes realistically low.

I wonder how likely now it is that Sakura will get killed by Obito or fatally wounded, paralleling when Kakashi killed Rin. Wouldn't it be a bit repeated that Naruto would lose hope again? He already started to after Neji's death alone and Hinata/Kurama helped raise him up again. I just wonder now ... is it still as likely? Or will Obito target Hinata now?

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:59 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 1 2013, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But should we really get our hopes up? Not trying to sound pessimestic here but Sakura often gets the shaft when he comes to character limelights. I believe she'll get some panel time very soon and while I hope it's absolutely satisfying, I can't help but keep my hopes realistically low.

I wonder how likely now it is that Sakura will get killed by Obito or fatally wounded, paralleling when Kakashi killed Rin. Wouldn't it be a bit repeated that Naruto would lose hope again? He already started to after Neji's death alone and Hinata/Kurama helped raise him up again. I just wonder now ... is it still as likely? Or will Obito target Hinata now?


I know where your coming from here and wye you think that hell i think the same way as you keeping my hopes up and stuff but you guys are keeping my hopes up with stuff what you think.

and about that well i can see kushina in hinata kishi played that part olmost impssble not too see not that i like it i hate it butttttt i be damned if i see Rin in Hinata never noway not in a million omg if that happens i am so gonna stop Naruto.
and if i think that sakura will be a target hmm in my mind about 40% of that happening if not well too bad but i wonder what plot otherwise she will get TBH.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:12 AM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Jan 1 2013, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know where your coming from here and wye you think that hell i think the same way as you keeping my hopes up and stuff but you guys are keeping my hopes up with stuff what you think.

and about that well i can see kushina in hinata kishi played that part olmost impssble not too see not that i like it i hate it butttttt i be damned if i see Rin in Hinata never noway not in a million omg if that happens i am so gonna stop Naruto.
and if i think that sakura will be a target hmm in my mind about 40% of that happening if not well too bad but i wonder what plot otherwise she will get TBH.


Hey, I'm usually optmist. Or a combination of a pessimist/optmist. xD. But that's what's so great about this site. It raises your hopes and makes you consider theories you wouldn't have considered before. happy.gif

I find the notion a ridiculous plot point myself. Hinata isn't a Rin parallel at all besides their agreeable nature. But that's not the issue. Rin was the girl in the middle of love triangle between her two teammates and a medic-nin. Just like Sakura. Not mentioning that fact that both Sakura and Rin have a similiar facial structure and eye shape. So using Hinata as a target would be very inconsistent and confusing. But again, anything's possible with Kishimoto. Obito does have reason to believe Hinata is Naruto's love interest as of 615.

Sakura being a target would make a lot more sense and I still see as a possible route. However, I'm still doubting a little over it at 615. I don't necessarily want Sakura to get killed. She's my 2nd favorite character. But as long as she comes back, I guess I can deal. I wonder too. Healing, for sure. Anything else?

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 January 2013 - 05:13 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:23 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 1 2013, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, I'm usually optmist. Or a combination of a pessimist/optmist. xD. But that's what's so great about this site. It raises your hopes and makes you consider theories you wouldn't have considered before. happy.gif

I find the notion a ridiculous plot point myself. Hinata isn't a Rin parallel at all besides their agreeable nature. But that's not the issue. Rin was the girl in the middle of love triangle between her two teammates and a medic-nin. Just like Sakura. Not mentioning that fact that both Sakura and Rin have a similiar facial structure and eye shape. So using Hinata as a target would be very inconsistent and confusing. But again, anything's possible with Kishimoto. Obito does have reason to believe Hinata is Naruto's love interest as of 615.

Sakura being a target would make a lot more sense and I still see as a possible route. However, I'm still doubting a little over it at 615. I don't necessarily want Sakura to get killed. She's my 2nd favorite character. But as long as she comes back, I guess I can deal. I wonder too. Healing, for sure. Anything else?


Yeaa af from 615 i my self would believe if i was obito hey thats your girl hey Naruto but the fights long and mabey sakura will do stuff or have moments in this arc what obito will notice who knows all i know is Obito is sooooo pist right now xD
and i know most of you guys hate him but i love hes character specially in flashback and for me hes story wye he is evil is the most believeble of them all i mean a kid witnessing the harsh reality of this world and breaking going too the wrong people for help and guidance very believeble and hes story with Rin and kakashi was pretty good. So i hope kishi uses Obitos pain/hate for naruto i mean ofc he will be TNJ but whatever after he will do something horrible lets go kishi

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:39 AM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Jan 1 2013, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeaa af from 615 i my self would believe if i was obito hey thats your girl hey Naruto but the fights long and mabey sakura will do stuff or have moments in this arc what obito will notice who knows all i know is Obito is sooooo pist right now xD
and i know most of you guys hate him but i love hes character specially in flashback and for me hes story wye he is evil is the most believeble of them all i mean a kid witnessing the harsh reality of this world and breaking going too the wrong people for help and guidance very believeble and hes story with Rin and kakashi was pretty good. So i hope kishi uses Obitos pain/hate for naruto i mean ofc he will be TNJ but whatever after he will do something horrible lets go kishi


I actually like Obito too for some reason. I find it very unrealistic that he went crazy because the girl he loved died but it also symbolizes how children like Sasuke can be so easily broken by war. I unwillingly sympathize with him a little and I find his villain status growing on my a bit by every chapter. Really weird but that's what happened. Those damn flashbacks. xD

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:54 AM

Time will tell, guys. I still have faith. I tell you one thing that time tells me: a new year!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!




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