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[rocci]

If I may ask, what makes you think Naruto's feelings for Sakura were not developed through largely superficial reasons? In my belief, his feelings for her work in the same way that Sakura's love for Sasuke did. He arbitrarily acquired it at a very young age and has throughout the story continued to retain those feelings, even when it was made clear to him that she did not love him back.

He don't stop love her even after he know sakura love sasuke.
Well he can move on or rethink his love for sakura especially after Hinata confession, sakura confession, kushina advice, and hold Hinata hand, but he didn't do that. Which only reinforce that naruto still love sakura.

About his love is very different with sakura especially in the hospital chapter after naruto back from vote. He reassure sakura. And that's where sakura see him differently. With that said naruto really in love with sakura to the point he go to hell if it can make her happy.

Sorry for grammatical error

[redragon88]

Which goes back to my saying that his development of feelings for her was an arbitrary decision. Sakura sought acknowledgement from Sasuke; the same could be said for every one of his other fangirls, Ino included. What then, was the deciding factor behind his falling for Sakura specifically? Her forehead?

No, it can't. Sakura is the only one shown to specifically seek acknowledgment from Sasuke. Unless there's a panel that shows Ino think the same as Sakura what you say has not base at all.

Also, let me ask you this: Isn't Hinata's decision to love Naruto also arbitrary considering that there were also other people besides Naruto that struggled to work hard like Lee? I don't think it is, and neither should you think Naruto's love is. Come on.

[narusakuluv]

Which goes back to my saying that his development of feelings for her was an arbitrary decision. Sakura sought acknowledgement from Sasuke; the same could be said for every one of his other fangirls, Ino included. What then, was the deciding factor behind his falling for Sakura specifically? Her forehead?

It is more than just her seeking acknowledgment from Sasuke. It is the fact that she is a character who seeks acknowledgment in general just like Naruto and does it on her own without anyone telling her to or having to hold her hand. She is a driven, motivated girl. I answered this question more deeply in a previous post but you must have missed it. I believe it was the answer you were looking for.
Here's what makes Narusaku's starting point different than the other pairings. Sakura liked Sasuke because he was cute and cool. Hinata liked Naruto because he always kept trying and she wanted to be like him. Naruto liked Sakura because they SHARED COMMON GROUND.

[narusakuluv]

Hinata and Naruto attended the academy at the same time, and it was during those early years that she observed him as hard working despite always having been viewed as a failure and shunned by everyone else. In the case of Sakura and the entire pool of girls infatuated with Sasuke, what do you think makes Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are any different than those of the others? The common goal amongst all of Sasuke fangirls was to get Sasuke to acknowledge their respective love for him as special and unlike anyone else's.

Crimson, when you continue to ignore my posts it makes me believe you don't have an answer for me . I've already answered this question several times.

[Shadow1275]

My question pertains to what the reasons behind his original development of feelings for her were.

Well in my opinion it started out as a crush, that much is obvious. But as time went on it developed into something more. He learned that she was not perfect, and yet even though his feelings for her are strong, he would still give that up for her to have a chance to be with Sasuke. Because when it comes to Sakura, Naruto would do anything just to see her happy.

As for how it started, yes it was a crush at first, but he realized that she was like him. Looking for acknowledgement, and he would risk everything just to see her get that acknowledgement, even if it means not being with her in the end.

The difference is that Sakura always thought that Sasuke was something that he was not. Of course he was cool and handsome, but he was not perfect. He craved power and revenge, and that is the difference. Naruto fell in love with the real Sakura. The girl with the giant forehead and the strong attitude. Sakura fell for a Sasuke that didn't exist.

Edited by Shadow1275, 11 April 2013 - 06:31 AM.

[narusakuluv]

Well in my opinion it started out as a crush, that much is obvious. But as time went on it developed into something more. He learned that she was not perfect, and yet even though his feelings for her are strong, he would still give that up for her to have a chance to be with Sasuke. Because when it comes to Sakura, Naruto would do anything just to see her happy.

As for how it started, yes it was a crush at first, but he realized that she was like him. Looking for acknowledgement, and he would risk everything just to see her get that acknowledgement, even if it means not being with her in the end.

The difference is that Sakura always thought that Sasuke was something that he was not. Of course he was cool and handsome, but he was not perfect. He craved power and revenge, and that is the difference. Naruto fell in love with the real Sakura. The girl with the giant forehead and the strong attitude. Sakura fell for a Sasuke that didn't exist.

Word.

[Shadow1275]

Word.

[rocci]

Well in my opinion it started out as a crush, that much is obvious. But as time went on it developed into something more. He learned that she was not perfect, and yet even though his feelings for her are strong, he would still give that up for her to have a chance to be with Sasuke. Because when it comes to Sakura, Naruto would do anything just to see her happy.

As for how it started, yes it was a crush at first, but he realized that she was like him. Looking for acknowledgement, and he would risk everything just to see her get that acknowledgement, even if it means not being with her in the end.

The difference is that Sakura always thought that Sasuke was something that he was not. Of course he was cool and handsome, but he was not perfect. He craved power and revenge, and that is the difference. Naruto fell in love with the real Sakura. The girl with the giant forehead and the strong attitude. Sakura fell for a Sasuke that didn't exist.

Agree +rep.

[Shadow1275]

Not exactly. My question, again, pertains as to what the reasons behind his initial development of feelings for her were.
You answered: "She wants to be acknowledged and like Naruto is not shy about this and is willing to do anything to achieve it."
The problem lies in that her desire for acknowledgement from Sasuke and her willing to do anything to achieve it fails to differentiate her from all the other girls infatuated with Sasuke and their own willingness to do anything for Sasuke to acknowledge their love for him.

That and its not easy to take on 6 ppl at once.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well in my opinion it started out as a crush, that much is obvious. But as time went on it developed into something more. He learned that she was not perfect, and yet even though his feelings for her are strong, he would still give that up for her to have a chance to be with Sasuke. Because when it comes to Sakura, Naruto would do anything just to see her happy.

As for how it started, yes it was a crush at first, but he realized that she was like him. Looking for acknowledgement, and he would risk everything just to see her get that acknowledgement, even if it means not being with her in the end.

The difference is that Sakura always thought that Sasuke was something that he was not. Of course he was cool and handsome, but he was not perfect. He craved power and revenge, and that is the difference. Naruto fell in love with the real Sakura. The girl with the giant forehead and the strong attitude. Sakura fell for a Sasuke that didn't exist.

Nicely said.

I think what makes me still like it so much is the fact Naruto is not being a jerk or selfish for thinking that because Sakura is in love with Sasuke. No, instead he's blaming himself for not keeping a promise or fulfilling it, which means that it's no one fault but his. That's selfless if I ever see one. Stuff like this always come out good in the end. We just have to wait.

[Canadian_DJ]

can you post some links of that?

Yeah surre ill post it once i get home on my computer

[redragon88]

Hinata and Naruto attended the academy at the same time, and it was during those early years that she observed him as hard working despite always having been viewed as a failure and shunned by everyone else. In the case of Sakura and the entire pool of girls infatuated with Sasuke, what do you think makes Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are any different than those of the others? The common goal amongst all of Sasuke fangirls was to get Sasuke to acknowledge their respective love for him as special and unlike anyone else's.

No, this is what you want to believe in order to justify your theory about Naruto loving Sakura as a random choice.

You keep saying that all girls want acknowledgment but you give no prove that this is true. Don't state things as if they are fact unless you have something to back it up. Just don't, seriously.

Wanting acknowledgment is not the same as just wanting love. The rest of the girls just want Sasuke to be lovey-dovey with them. Sakura wants Sasuke to validate her worth, just like Naruto wanted to be Hokage for the village to validate his worth.

About Hinata falling in love with Naruto, Kishi could've made it so that it was Lee who Hinata noticed for -insert reason here- but he wanted Hinata to love Naruto. The point is that Kishi wanted Naruto to be the one Hinata noticed out of all, just like he wanted Sakura to be the one Naruto noticed out of all. Maybe there are other girls that want acknowledgment, but Naruto isn't aware of thoes girls. Naruto became aware of Sakura by chance, just like Hinata became aware of Naruto by chance.

Edited by redragon88, 11 April 2013 - 06:44 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Nicely said.

I think what makes me still like it so much is the fact Naruto is not being a jerk or selfish for thinking that because Sakura is in love with Sasuke. No, instead he's blaming himself for not keeping a promise or fulfilling it, which means that it's no one fault but his. That's selfless if I ever see one. Stuff like this always come out good in the end. We just have to wait.

Agreed, Naruto's feelings for Sakura are true love because he only cares for her happiness and he knows the true her. Sakura has struggled emotionally throughout the series because her feelings for Sasuke are not in line with who Sasuke really is. However, Sakura also knows the real Naruto his goods and his bads, this is the foundation of a solid relationship.

Edited by Shadow1275, 11 April 2013 - 06:57 AM.

[narusakuluv]

Not exactly. My question, again, pertains as to what the reasons behind his initial development of feelings for her were.
You answered: "She wants to be acknowledged and like Naruto is not shy about this and is willing to do anything to achieve it."
The problem lies in that her desire for acknowledgement from Sasuke and her willing to do anything to achieve it fails to differentiate her from all the other girls infatuated with Sasuke and their own willingness to do anything for Sasuke to acknowledge their love for him.

At no point did any of those girls say "I want you to acknowledge me". "I want you to love me"
and "I want to have your babies" is not the same thing as seeking acknowledgement. Sakura wanted Sasuke to see her as someone worthy of paying attention to. This later developed into her doing all sorts of things so that she could become someone worthy of acknowledgement from everyone, not someone worthy of Sasuke's love. (I point to the hair cutting scene here).
Your argument is invalid because it lacks support, it is all based on conjecture while it is a fact that Sakura saying to Naruto (thinking he was Sasuke) that she wanted him to acknowledge her is what caused Naruto to realize what he liked about her. While expansion on this acknowledgment theme and how it was personally unique to Sakura came later, it is definitely applicable to that earlier scene since it helps to explain in a fairly obvious way why her seeking acknowledgement from Sasuke resonated so strongly with Naruto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I wasn't expecting you to concede that the origins behind his love for her was a simple crush, but I suppose I'll take it.
I have to say, however, that the fact that Naruto must put himself through so much suffering and pain for the sake of seeking her love throughout the years is part of the reason I don't necessarily view his love as being good for him.

But the problem is that he doesn't see it that way and that's the main issue that Sakura assumed that when going to confront him, but in the end, it's not just the promise that made him go after Sasuke, he just does. The promise wasn't needed for Naruto to go after Sasuke, but he did himself because he wanted to keep her smile. So really, Naruto never saw it negative and that's what the problem for Sakura. She keeps assuming that she have to do huge for Naruto to make him see her not a burden. Naruto is not like that. It's like if a girl keeps needing help and she will say "Sorry, I bet you're tired of that" and that guy will say "Not really" with a smile. You may think a girl must do something big to make him happy, but in reality, that's the fact that as long as she's supportive as being his side, it's all it matters. Don't get mad if that's truly the case, but that's what the story is going forward. Otherwise, well certainly many other friends could easily replace Sasuke as his best friend but nope.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 April 2013 - 06:50 AM.