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[FrenchMyToast]

Technically if Sasuke and Karin get together, Naruto and Sasuke will really be family.So technically, isn't it possible that the end game is gonna be SK / NS?

I don't really get what you mean in your first point. I doubt that they're even cousins or anything. All they have is the Uzumaki name. We don't even know about Karin's parents, so who knows how diluted her blood is?

But I agree with you second point. If SK were to happen, I think NS would be end game as well. If anything, this chapter should have given us more hope with the obvious SK moment because NaruSaku is grouped together with it pretty often. It would seem kind of odd to just leave the heroine out when quite a bit of her character is based on romance/her feelings.

Also, I can see why people have gotten a bit nervous with this chapter. If it only took about 5 chapters to "convert" Sasuke, then who knows how few it would take to make NaruHina canon? I'm fairly anxious about the next SS interaction. I really don't see Sakura fangirling like Karin because she knows how bad it would hurt Naruto, but who even knows at this point?

[Inferno180]

I don't really get what you mean in your first point. I doubt that they're even cousins or anything. All they have is the Uzumaki name. We don't even know about Karin's parents, so who knows how diluted her blood is?

But I agree with you second point. If SK were to happen, I think NS would be end game as well. If anything, this chapter should have given us more hope with the obvious SK moment because NaruSaku is grouped together with it pretty often. It would seem kind of odd to just leave the heroine out when quite a bit of her character is based on romance/her feelings.

Also, I can see why people have gotten a bit nervous with this chapter. If it only took about 5 chapters to "convert" Sasuke, then who knows how few it would take to make NaruHina canon? I'm fairly anxious about the next SS interaction. I really don't see Sakura fangirling like Karin because she knows how bad it would hurt Naruto, but who even knows at this point?

Well we still need to see Sakura's potential development from 540 and 615, worse case is kishi just ignores this and reverts her even after the 5 kage summit. Hopefully Sakura's struggle is a matter of maturing and seeing who really stood by her and who she herself was with. As for NH, this past chapter did not change the fact that if it came in so soon, it would be just another rushed weakly written plot point. Still its just insane to think that NS would just vanish especially after all the development. Sakura has yet to have her moment.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So as of this chapter Sasuke went from lawful evil to lawful neutral?

Er, as of now, sure. Sometimes, people doesn't go complete 180. They go 90.

Technically if Sasuke and Karin get together, Naruto and Sasuke will really be family.So technically, isn't it possible that the end game is gonna be SK / NS?

Pretty much. Not like we need SK to make NS work, because it's good on its own. Still, that doesn't mean SK can't happen. I still don't know if it will be canon, but I could picture people being shocked in epilogue that Sasuke went with Karin in the future. It happened in Shaman King, why not here. Second main character's romance usually involves with another character (side character).

I don't really get what you mean in your first point. I doubt that they're even cousins or anything. All they have is the Uzumaki name. We don't even know about Karin's parents, so who knows how diluted her blood is?

But I agree with you second point. If SK were to happen, I think NS would be end game as well. If anything, this chapter should have given us more hope with the obvious SK moment because NaruSaku is grouped together with it pretty often. It would seem kind of odd to just leave the heroine out when quite a bit of her character is based on romance/her feelings.

Also, I can see why people have gotten a bit nervous with this chapter. If it only took about 5 chapters to "convert" Sasuke, then who knows how few it would take to make NaruHina canon? I'm fairly anxious about the next SS interaction. I really don't see Sakura fangirling like Karin because she knows how bad it would hurt Naruto, but who even knows at this point?

I don't think that will happen. I can see her being happy, but people should not jump to the conclusion that she'll go straight back to him after the war. Again, Sakura is in the middle of two way directions (Naruto and Sasuke). So, it's not easy. Plus, if Sasuke remains good, if he's really is, then it's best to say sorry to many, but we shall see. I do wonder if they will make it in time.

[Inferno180]

Er, as of now, sure. Sometimes, people doesn't go complete 180. They go 90.


Pretty much. Not like we need SK to make NS work, because it's good on its own. Still, that doesn't mean SK can't happen. I still don't know if it will be canon, but I could picture people being shocked in epilogue that Sasuke went with Karin in the future. It happened in Shaman King, why not here. Second main character's romance usually involves with another character (side character).


I don't think that will happen. I can see her being happy, but people should not jump to the conclusion that she'll go straight back to him after the war. Again, Sakura is in the middle of two way directions (Naruto and Sasuke). So, it's not easy. Plus, if Sasuke remains good, if he's really is, then it's best to say sorry to many, but we shall see. I do wonder if they will make it in time.

NaruSaku is still strong, I mean despite his change, Sasuke still never did anything of merit for Sakura and she really never understood him. All the time was Naruto and Sakura, Sasuke was a dbag. Its still more or less reason for Sakura to mature over him, no real reason to start it even with this redemption, I mean it would really really stink if Sakuras love for him stayed and came true because she held out for him and merely hoped he would turn good rather than every trail she and naruto went through together, I really hope Sakura's character does not do this. Still the reason alone for Sakura's idealistic crush is that she needs to mature, she overcomes Sasuke and comes to terms with Naruto and he comes to terms with her, NaruSaku still has enough material to make it canon.

Still I can see narusaku coming about in an event like this, the team is reunited after the fallout, Sakura goes over to redeemed Sasuke but then turns to Naruto and starts it there because of everything they went through, NaruSaku is unaffected and still in play, in a way the new Sasuke kinda makes me excited to see what happens next with Taka and the 4 hokages. Things are going to get very good actionwise.

[MistFlower]

I think that this chapter was definitely nothing to worry about in regards to NS. In fact, if anything, I think it's positive. What with Sasuke being "good" now, people can't really use the "Sakura's only with Naruto because Sasuke is horrible" excuse. From when Sasuke enters the battlefield, Sakura and Naruto's future development together will seem even more real (not that it wasn't before, but I think that it would have even more impact with Sasuke there).

Also, I really do feel like something big is coming up... I don't know what, but I just have a hunch.

Edited by MistFlower, 11 April 2013 - 03:15 AM.

[AzureWaters]

I don't really get what you mean in your first point. I doubt that they're even cousins or anything. All they have is the Uzumaki name. We don't even know about Karin's parents, so who knows how diluted her blood is?

But I agree with you second point. If SK were to happen, I think NS would be end game as well. If anything, this chapter should have given us more hope with the obvious SK moment because NaruSaku is grouped together with it pretty often. It would seem kind of odd to just leave the heroine out when quite a bit of her character is based on romance/her feelings.

Also, I can see why people have gotten a bit nervous with this chapter. If it only took about 5 chapters to "convert" Sasuke, then who knows how few it would take to make NaruHina canon? I'm fairly anxious about the next SS interaction. I really don't see Sakura fangirling like Karin because she knows how bad it would hurt Naruto, but who even knows at this point?

No she's not likely to fangirl or behave as Karin did this chapter, which makes it worse. If Sasuke attempts to reconcile with Sakura and she in turn makes it more serious by having a serious reaction, that isn't exactly good for us.

[TouKen4Life3g]

NaruSaku is still strong, I mean despite his change, Sasuke still never did anything of merit for Sakura and she really never understood him. All the time was Naruto and Sakura, Sasuke was a dbag. Its still more or less reason for Sakura to mature over him, no real reason to start it even with this redemption, I mean it would really really stink if Sakuras love for him stayed and came true because she held out for him and merely hoped he would turn good rather than every trail she and naruto went through together, I really hope Sakura's character does not do this. Still the reason alone for Sakura's idealistic crush is that she needs to mature, she overcomes Sasuke and comes to terms with Naruto and he comes to terms with her, NaruSaku still has enough material to make it canon.

Still I can see narusaku coming about in an event like this, the team is reunited after the fallout, Sakura goes over to redeemed Sasuke but then turns to Naruto and starts it there because of everything they went through, NaruSaku is unaffected and still in play, in a way the new Sasuke kinda makes me excited to see what happens next with Taka and the 4 hokages. Things are going to get very good actionwise.

Agreed. Funny how no one answer me about how long Hokages will take to get there.

I think that this chapter was definitely nothing to worry about in regards to NS. In fact, if anything, I think it's positive. What with Sasuke being "good" now, people can't really use the "Sakura's only with Naruto because Sasuke is horrible" excuse. From when Sasuke enters the battlefield, Sakura and Naruto's future development together will seem even more real (not that it wasn't before, but I think that it would have even more impact with Sasuke there).

Also, I really do feel like something big is coming up... I don't know what, but I just have a hunch.

Also agreed. The victory will be grander. I just hope he can pull it nicely.

[Don-kun]

No she's not likely to fangirl or behave as Karin did this chapter, which makes it worse. If Sasuke attempts to reconcile with Sakura and she in turn makes it more serious by having a serious reaction, that isn't exactly good for us.

Didn't you get it, she knows how much Naruto loves her and she knows it will hurt him, if she really cares about Naruto that is the last thing she will do and if she has romantic feelings for Naruto at this point it just make it worst for SS, I guess the only way SS can happen if Naruto is the one who tells Sakura he already fallen for Hinata and he want to have a future with her, But if Naruto still loves Sakura and only Sakura then SS is good has dead.

So I will recommend to focus on Naruto's next reaction in the romantic department instead of worrying about Sakura and SS.
In other words everything will start with Naruto and end with Naruto, main character always haves the last word.

Edited by Don-kun, 11 April 2013 - 03:27 AM.

[Inferno180]

Agreed. Funny how no one answer me about how long Hokages will take to get there.


Also agreed. The victory will be grander. I just hope he can pull it nicely.

I get the feeling that mt. kage rushmore is going to become one giant cannon and fling them across the land, as stupid as that sounds, or they can use a transportation technique. Anyways yeah, the whole travel point of time and distance in this universe is speculative, I mean Mabui (Ay's assistant) just happens to have the fastest speed technique, one that can transport other objects almost instantaneously. I'm sure the fight with Sasuke and Itachi against Kabuto was far away from the battlefront and yet Sasuke and co made it back to the leaf within a few hours. Some of this makes us think I mean it took 3 days for team 7 and temari to reach the leaf village.

I never shipped anything with Sasuke, I always thought he was a decent character but he just became too insane it was funny around the 5 kage summit. Still Sasuke is going to be a new type of avenger. Sasuke has no time for love this is what Sasuke should still be despite being good:



He can will start and go through this redemption, just Sasuke is not the kind of guy in this manga for love, don't know why people still act like it. His only love should be finding a new family, aka back with team 7, he has a brother in Naruto. He messed his chances with Sakura

hopefully we will get this in the end:



I mean everything is still there, just hope kishi keeps everyone else constant, let Sakura mature and realize her feelings for Naruto, let Naruto accept Sakura in honesty after he sees this. We know the reasons, its a good ending for development for them. Sasuke can apologize to her, she can accept it but she needs to get over her ideal vision of him because he was never there for her even in the start, only cared for her as a comrade, no reason for kishi to start it now. He could apologize easily to Karin, it should take a lot more for team 7. Sasuke turning did not change the fact of what he did in the past and how this never had any real benefit for Sakura. Sakura's benefits and efforts have always fallen with Naruto. Basically Naruto and Sakura did a monumental amount of stuff together, they grew and experienced a lot of it. Sakura and Sasuke never had any major developing impact on each other, rather Sasuke only impacted Sakura in a negative way but this was for the drama and struggle of her character, its time she overcame this and goes with Naruto, who stood by her and who she always stood by, hey Sakura is stubborn but she cannot just switch to Naruto, we need to see some event to gradually start and push her there. I still stand by my fact that Naruto and Sakura will have more interaction, chapters 540 and 615 still have potential to show this alongside every other past event, Sakura can turn to Naruto and Naruto still most likely loves Sakura. Sakura still loved Sasuke as of 540 but she was ashamed and this could be for her part on development to start her movement away from him, it could be. I still have faith NaruSaku will come, I mean kishi does bad stuff from time to time, yet he made RtN very good, even as only a movie, it still is derived from the canon material and shows Naruto and Sakura have that good close never breaking relationship that can become something more. RtN proved NS can fit the Minakush parallel and has the foundation for something more, if it could work there it can work effortlessly in the manga. NaruSaku faith is still strong even with a mellowed out Sasuke.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I get the feeling that mt. kage rushmore is going to become one giant cannon and fling them across the land, as stupid as that sounds, or they can use a transportation technique. Anyways yeah, the whole travel point of time and distance in this universe is speculative, I mean Mabui (Ay's assistant) just happens to have the fastest speed technique, one that can transport other objects almost instantaneously. I'm sure the fight with Sasuke and Itachi against Kabuto was far away from the battlefront and yet Sasuke and co made it back to the leaf within a few hours. Some of this makes us think I mean it took 3 days for team 7 and temari to reach the leaf village.

I never shipped anything with Sasuke, I always thought he was a decent character but he just became too insane it was funny around the 5 kage summit. Still Sasuke is going to be a new type of avenger. Sasuke has no time for love this is what Sasuke should still be despite being good:



He can will start and go through this redemption, just Sasuke is not the kind of guy in this manga for love, don't know why people still act like it. His only love should be finding a new family, aka back with team 7, he has a brother in Naruto. He messed his chances with Sakura

hopefully we will get this in the end:



I mean everything is still there, just hope kishi keeps everyone else constant, let Sakura mature and realize her feelings for Naruto, let Naruto accept Sakura in honesty after he sees this. We know the reasons, its a good ending for development for them. Sasuke can apologize to her, she can accept it but she needs to get over her ideal vision of him because he was never there for her even in the start, only cared for her as a comrade, no reason for kishi to start it now. He could apologize easily to Karin, it should take a lot more for team 7. Sasuke turning did not change the fact of what he did in the past and how this never had any real benefit for Sakura. Sakura's benefits and efforts have always fallen with Naruto. Basically Naruto and Sakura did a monumental amount of stuff together, they grew and experienced a lot of it. Sakura and Sasuke never had any major developing impact on each other, rather Sasuke only impacted Sakura in a negative way but this was for the drama and struggle of her character, its time she overcame this and goes with Naruto, who stood by her and who she always stood by, hey Sakura is stubborn but she cannot just switch to Naruto, we need to see some event to gradually start and push her there. I still stand by my fact that Naruto and Sakura will have more interaction, chapters 540 and 615 still have potential to show this alongside every other past event, Sakura can turn to Naruto and Naruto still most likely loves Sakura. Sakura still loved Sasuke as of 540 but she was ashamed and this could be for her part on development to start her movement away from him, it could be. I still have faith NaruSaku will come, I mean kishi does bad stuff from time to time, yet he made RtN very good, even as only a movie, it still is derived from the canon material and shows Naruto and Sakura have that good close never breaking relationship that can become something more. RtN proved NS can fit the Minakush parallel and has the foundation for something more, if it could work there it can work effortlessly in the manga. NaruSaku faith is still strong even with a mellowed out Sasuke.

Nicely said.

Back to Hokages' arrival, I'm confused. They said they were going to get ready to teleport, but Tobirama said he can't do it or something like that. Is there something I'm missing or mistaken?

[Inferno180]

Nicely said.

Back to Hokages' arrival, I'm confused. They said they were going to get ready to teleport, but Tobirama said he can't do it or something like that. Is there something I'm missing or mistaken?

I don't know, maybe I'm just assuming this because of the hokages just getting on top of the monuments of themselves? Hey Hashirama and Tobirama are uber powerful, not to mention Hiruzen has a lot of techs and Minato the flying thunder god technique. Kishi can easily just make them whip out some long range distance travel technique, maybe they will take time to get there, maybe they appear all at once, no telling what happens but things will be divided up maybe when they come to the fight. The allaince would have to make some argeement with Orochimaru to assist them. I mean I can still see something like a break in the action via ten tails cocooning itself, Madara just spams his clone or sussano army, the 4 hokages have to fight something while we should mainly see Hashirama vs Madara, but even then this will not be enough. Guess with them moving out its getting exciting at least for the battle part, it could take a break or ten tails can just level up to its final form. There is room for a lot of stuff, just hope kishi keeps it in good writing and not sudden asspulls and limits the twists. the bad unneeded development should be ignored altogether, I still cringe to think what would happen if this manga became a glorified fanfiction if he reverted Sakura to Sasuke again and made Sasuke all love filled, I bet this won't happen but if it does, that's just a sad tale. Most likely he would not do this and hopefully things remain on NS as they were for the majority of the series if any pairing came around, I mean its literally the only pairing with enough development to validate anything canon worthy, all the elements are there and Sakura can change to validate it, plus it does no damage to the story because all Naruto and Sakura did together was part of the story of team 7. Its part of the main plot, it fits perfectly no questions asked and the gateways for it are open, just depends if Kishi goes through that road. We hope it does.

[Don-kun]

Nicely said.

Back to Hokages' arrival, I'm confused. They said they were going to get ready to teleport, but Tobirama said he can't do it or something like that. Is there something I'm missing or mistaken?

If Tobirama can't do it then Minato can surely teleport everyone to the battle field, but this is another excuse from Kishi to give all the side characters a proper closure before they all becomes cheerleaders including Sakura.

[redragon88]

Am I the only one that finds it funny and interesting that now Sasuke is self aware about Karin clinging to him. This is the first time he's reacted like that to a girl. Whether it was Sakura, Ino, or Karin herself, previously Sasuke just didn't give a crap about that, he just nonchalantly told them to back off.

Edited by redragon88, 11 April 2013 - 04:13 AM.

[lord287]

NaruSaku is still strong, I mean despite his change, Sasuke still never did anything of merit for Sakura and she really never understood him. All the time was Naruto and Sakura, Sasuke was a dbag. Its still more or less reason for Sakura to mature over him, no real reason to start it even with this redemption, I mean it would really really stink if Sakuras love for him stayed and came true because she held out for him and merely hoped he would turn good rather than every trail she and naruto went through together, I really hope Sakura's character does not do this. Still the reason alone for Sakura's idealistic crush is that she needs to mature, she overcomes Sasuke and comes to terms with Naruto and he comes to terms with her, NaruSaku still has enough material to make it canon.

Still I can see narusaku coming about in an event like this, the team is reunited after the fallout, Sakura goes over to redeemed Sasuke but then turns to Naruto and starts it there because of everything they went through, NaruSaku is unaffected and still in play, in a way the new Sasuke kinda makes me excited to see what happens next with Taka and the 4 hokages. Things are going to get very good actionwise.

Didn't u guys just saw how kishi just made sasuke turn good out of nowhere, his reason for making obito evil, Naruto holding Hinata's hand etc.
People believe it, development doesn't mean anything for that person he will do in the end whatever he wants to do and whether it will make sense or not he just don't care. I put my bets that any pairing which will happen in the end will not make sense including NS because kishi would have already messed it up a lot more.
And u guys remember chapter 540, if sakura sees that sasuke has indeed turned good I don't have any second thoughts that SS will be the final judgement along with NH considering how much nonsense development kishi has started giving to NH near the end of manga. I think everything is falling into place in kishi's mind, since he might has always wanted NH and SS to be final but couldn't do the development because sasuke left the village and hinata wasn't in the team but now during the war hinata is with Naruto, their is no bloody sign of where sakura went and Sasuke is coming back with all the goodness sakura wanted in him. If you people still expect kishi to end up with NS u r just in denial of anything that is lately going on in this manga.(to be more precise u guys are in denial to what has been going on in this manga since 1-2 years now)

[TouKen4Life3g]

If Tobirama can't do it then Minato can surely teleport everyone to the battle field, but this is another excuse from Kishi to give all the side characters a proper closure before they all becomes cheerleaders including Sakura.

Yeah, but isn't Tobirama version like the best feat yet or am I mistaking?

[Don-kun]

Didn't u guys just saw how kishi just made sasuke turn good out of nowhere, his reason for making obito evil, Naruto holding Hinata's hand etc.
People believe it, development doesn't mean anything for that person he will do in the end whatever he wants to do and whether it will make sense or not he just don't care. I put my bets that any pairing which will happen in the end will not make sense including NS because kishi would have already messed it up a lot more.
And u guys remember chapter 540, if sakura sees that sasuke has indeed turned good I don't have any second thoughts that SS will be the final judgement along with NH considering how much nonsense development kishi has started giving to NH near the end of manga. I think everything is falling into place in kishi's mind, since he might has always wanted NH and SS to be final but couldn't do the development because sasuke left the village and hinata wasn't in the team but now during the war hinata is with Naruto, their is no bloody sign of where sakura went and Sasuke is coming back with all the goodness sakura wanted in him. If you people still expect kishi to end up with NS u r just in denial of anything that is lately going on in this manga.(to be more precise u guys are in denial to what has been going on in this manga since 1-2 years now)

This is just BS (excuse my French) that event was hinted from the moment Sasuke met with Itachi again and after he left Sasuke, we saw him with that empty look on his face again, I mean he even start saying that he wanted to get to the bottom of everything to make his final decision, we were the ones who refused to see it or didn't want to accept it since everyone was made to believe that it will be Naruto and only Naruto despite the fact that Itachi told him there would be no more lies and he will tell him the truth.

Yeah, but isn't Tobirama version like the best feat yet or am I mistaking?

With Tobirama features I'm a little shallow i guess I wasn't paying attention to his features Sorry.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This is just BS (excuse my French) that event was hinted from the moment Sasuke met with Itachi again and after he left Sasuke, we saw him with that empty look on his face again, I mean he even start saying that he wanted to get to the bottom of everything to make his final decision, we were the ones who refused to see it or didn't want to accept it since everyone was made to believe that it will be Naruto and only Naruto despite the fact that Itachi told him there would be no more lies and he will tell him the truth.



With Tobirama features I'm a little shallow i guess I wasn't paying attention to his features Sorry.

Well, I still don't know what he truly thinks but right now, priority is to stop him. It's vague on his decision besides going there to stop Madara. We don't know completely so best to wait until the time comes.

If that's case about Tobirama, that means they will take a while to get to the scene? I guess we have to wait longer.

[Fenris]

Proably already been said before but this was an interesting point I saw on tumblr:

Sakura chooses Naruto at her own free will now that Sasuke is back. She knows Naruto is the one she loves. And she just doesn't choose him because Sasuke is gone. She chooses Naruto because she loves him.

[Don-kun]

Well, I still don't know what he truly thinks but right now, priority is to stop him. It's vague on his decision besides going there to stop Madara. We don't know completely so best to wait until the time comes.

If that's case about Tobirama, that means they will take a while to get to the scene? I guess we have to wait longer.

The Enemy of my Enemy is my friend, just look on it this way for the moment.

If Sasuke want to fight Naruto, protect the Village or any ill intention then it will be pointless if Madara achieves is Goal don't you think?


OK that's all for today.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Proably already been said before but this was an interesting point I saw on tumblr:

Sakura chooses Naruto at her own free will now that Sasuke is back. She knows Naruto is the one she loves. And she just doesn't choose him because Sasuke is gone. She chooses Naruto because she loves him.

That's what I was hoping for, but if Sasuke keeps his good (whether its complete or not) side and she choose Naruto, then this pairing confirmation will be rewarding.

@Don-Kun: That's what I said earlier. Nice to know someone thinks this.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 April 2013 - 05:01 AM.