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#16481 Canadian_DJ

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 10 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed, what does all of that mean? What is that about April 3 for Naruto Sakura love?

I dont know, it was in the weekly shounen calender..according to the japanese admin of the yellow x pink its the date naruto fell in love with sakura, interesting, no? maybe it will have some relevance in the future events of the manga, say the day naruto laid eyes on sakura.

Im sure kishi'll show us the day they met.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Apr 10 2013, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know, it was in the weekly shounen calender..according to the japanese admin of the yellow x pink its the date naruto fell in love with sakura, interesting, no? maybe it will have some relevance in the future events of the manga, say the day naruto laid eyes on sakura.

Im sure kishi'll show us the day they met.


can you give the picture?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Apr 10 2013, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know, it was in the weekly shounen calender..according to the japanese admin of the yellow x pink its the date naruto fell in love with sakura, interesting, no? maybe it will have some relevance in the future events of the manga, say the day naruto laid eyes on sakura.

Im sure kishi'll show us the day they met.

I see. So was that weekly shounen calendar something that was recently published?

Also, does hero mean great man in japanese? The same for heroine meaning brave woman? I'm just asking because you put hero, great man and heroine, brave woman so i don't know if that means that both things are written in the Samurai cover or that it just has the same meaning in japanese.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Apr 10 2013, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah its narusaku alright, and yes, i checked the accurate translation, you see the samurai artwork, it didn't say make your move heros and heroines, that clearly doesn't make sense, since there's only one of each aka naruto and sakura only, so yeah, it said make your move hero, great man and heroine, brave woman, awsome right?

here read this: ... "Rasengan" has been taught (spiral cancer) to the skill of the hobbyhorse frequency of use is very high in the current through a period of several months is that. ... as part of the mischief, to transform a woman naked " plus the shadow alter ego to it and the art of sex appeal "and" art of Harlem ", a grown man pleasure so I also use (Erotic Ninjutsu) a surgery. ... from Academy when Sakura is that I like (according to the calendar of the way, "Weekly Shonen Jump" magazine included was Naruto Sakura love with the date of the April 3 and things to be).



Where does that come from? Also what does it mean? It's very hard to understand.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 10 2013, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where does that come from? Also what does it mean? It's very hard to understand.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

I guess I'll drop this manga. Call me if NS ever happens.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:24 PM

You guys are rediculus. This way theres a win win scenario for NS.

1. Sasuke is good but Sakura still chooses Naruto
2. Sasuke turns bad again and she still chooses Naruto.

What did you think his answer was going to be: kitten you I`m evil? Orochimaru is the alpha villain. It started with him and it will ultimatly end with him. And he will not turn good. Karin was way to forgiving of Sasuke but I honestly think its because she is up to something. Ultimatly when Sasuke gets to the battlefield be prepared for plot twists. Many of you have said that Nh fans are taking everything at face value, but its exactly what you guys are doing right now. It the first chapter afther the flashback. Just give Kishi a chance. This could turn out well.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 10 2013, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys are rediculus. This way theres a win win scenario for NS.

1. Sasuke is good but Sakura still chooses Naruto
2. Sasuke turns bad again and she still chooses Naruto.

What did you think his answer was going to be: kitten you I`m evil? Orochimaru is the alpha villain. It started with him and it will ultimatly end with him. And he will not turn good. Karin was way to forgiving of Sasuke but I honestly think its because she is up to something. Ultimatly when Sasuke gets to the battlefield be prepared for plot twists. Many of you have said that Nh fans are taking everything at face value, but its exactly what you guys are doing right now. It the first chapter afther the flashback. Just give Kishi a chance. This could turn out well.


Sasuke has apologized to Karin for actually nearly killing her.

He will also apologize to Sakura and use his new talk no jutsu skills to asspull SS

Edited by HauntedCake, 10 April 2013 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 10 2013, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys are rediculus. This way theres a win win scenario for NS.

1. Sasuke is good but Sakura still chooses Naruto
2. Sasuke turns bad again and she still chooses Naruto.

What did you think his answer was going to be: kitten you I`m evil? Orochimaru is the alpha villain. It started with him and it will ultimatly end with him. And he will not turn good. Karin was way to forgiving of Sasuke but I honestly think its because she is up to something. Ultimatly when Sasuke gets to the battlefield be prepared for plot twists. Many of you have said that Nh fans are taking everything at face value, but its exactly what you guys are doing right now. It the first chapter afther the flashback. Just give Kishi a chance. This could turn out well.


I honestly fail to see any SS development during the battle.... Sasuke is aiming for the battlefield and so? Once he'll arrive there, Sakura will act like a fangirl?Or Sasuke will apologies to her and declare his love? In spite of the circumstances, I very doubt that Kishimoto is a such a**hole...

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 10 2013, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see. So was that weekly shounen calendar something that was recently published?

Also, does hero mean great man in japanese? The same for heroine meaning brave woman? I'm just asking because you put hero, great man and heroine, brave woman so i don't know if that means that both things are written in the Samurai cover or that it just has the same meaning in japanese.

Yeah, I compared the two japanese contexts and yes, thats what was written in the cover.

And I dont have a picture for the weekly shounen jump, but its in the japanese wiki, and the japanese founder of yellow x pink posted it on their page.
And yes it was published on the weekly shounen jump,

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 10 April 2013 - 03:33 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:31 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 10 2013, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke has apologized to Karin for actually nearly killing her.

He will also apologize and use his new talk no jutsu skills to asspull SS


We all know he was under the influence of Mangekyou and the whole Itachi incident.

Itachi`s final last words were a killer for Sasuke. " No matter what happens from here on out, I will always love you", that in combination with Hashirama`s speach may not have turned himn good but they have turned him sane. He is not crazy anymore. So the logical thing to do was apologise for something he did while he was crazy. Not loving Sakura is all Sasuke. No craziness there.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Apr 10 2013, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I compared the two japanese contexts and yes, thats what was written in the cover.

And I dont have a picture for the weekly shounen jump, but its in the japanese wiki, and the japanese founder of yellow x pink posted it on their page.
And yes it was published on the weekly shounen jump,


can you post some links of that?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

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I honestly fail to see any SS development during the battle.... Sasuke is aiming for the battlefield and so? Once he'll arrive there, Sakura will act like a fangirl?Or Sasuke will apologies to her and declare his love? In spite of the circumstances, I very doubt that Kishimoto is a such a**hole...

I don't think Kishi would become so retarded as to allow for such a cringe moment to happen which would simultaneously destroy the characterization of both Sasuke and Sakura. If that were to occur I swear...

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 10 2013, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly fail to see any SS development during the battle.... Sasuke is aiming for the battlefield and so? Once he'll arrive there, Sakura will act like a fangirl?Or Sasuke will apologies to her and declare his love? In spite of the circumstances, I very doubt that Kishimoto is a such a**hole...


Bolded: Are you seriously still underestimating Kishi's trolling/asspulling skills??? wot.gif pictureem0.gif


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:58 PM

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Bolded: Are you seriously still underestimating Kishi's trolling/asspulling skills??? wot.gif pictureem0.gif


I don't undestimate him and his sake (I know that Kishimoto really loves driking sake) but I believe that he have, at least, some solid bases...

I really love trolling people. See RTN or the question of Tobi=Obito/Madara. He's predicable in his own unpredictability. I already knew that Sasuke would turn to good side in a such way (since 627 was the last chapter of volume 65. You know, I learned in all these days that Naruto works through volumes, not chapters). He could make some bad choiches at our eyes but still irremovable in some thing.. You know that would be funny if everyone keep their love interest unchanged while the main character can change his feelings? laugh.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 10 2013, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think Kishi would become so retarded as to allow for such a cringe moment to happen which would simultaneously destroy the characterization of both Sasuke and Sakura. If that were to occur I swear...

My whole Kishi has been kidnapped theory is sounding more plausible with every chapter release XD

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 10 2013, 04:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>





You are correct about mentioning Katsuya in your post, my apologies. My points about Tsunade's list of other techniques, however, still stand.

The panels show her pushing the boulder off of Chiyo, not picking it up and throwing it at Sasori. If we are to qualify that as superhuman strength, given Sakura strength stats of 3, then apparently Kakashi is even stronger physically, given his stats of 3.5.
And once again, Chakra enhanced strength involves concentrating chakra on one point along the user's body, then releasing it on the point of impact. It is an imitation of strength, whereas Tsunade physically picking up the sword (rather than punching it) is a display of true superhuman strength.

Once again, regarding Sakura and the Zetsus, she let her emotions get the better of her, and she let her guard down despite being the one to uncover firsthand the Zetsus' method of attack. That was my original point.

Hinata annihilated against Neji without putting up a fight? I suggest you reread those chapters. She defied everyone's expectations, despite her utter lack of battle prowess in comparison to the heralded Neji.

Sakura defeated Sasori? Correction: Sasori should have won that fight, as Chiyo herself stated. Sasori chose to let himself die in his "parents'" embrace.




Keyword being IF. Sakura has yet to show any signs of progressing in any of those areas.




Trying to debate multiple people at one time is quite tiring, as I am now coming to realize.... dry.gif

Okay, so I understand why you are getting frustrated having to debate so many ppl at once. Its not easy which is why I stopped going on Narutobase and Why I said a couple posts back that this should be changed so it is more one on one then 10 on one. So if you don't want to have to take on more then one person and you don't reply to this I understand.

Alright here we go:

Your point about Tsunade's other techniques do stand, but this was also mentioned in my post, When I said that Sakura lacked Katsuyu and the Yin seal. The Yin seal is required to perform the strength of a hundred and mitotic generation, but perhaps you did not know this so moving on.

The panel that I posted about Sakura lifting the boulder was before She had to lift the boulder off of Chiyo. I know that it is hard to see, however when it is compounded with Narutopedia,"She was also able to use this new-found strength to lift a boulder nearly twice her size". But also the page after shows a bunch of rubble debris. And then she lifts another boulder off of Chiyo.

Now as for the Databook stats, Kakashi is physically stronger then Sakura that is true. However, whether chakra control is an imitation of strength or not is besides the point. The question is how much strength can Sakura muster with her Chakra control. In fact, in a battle lifting a giant sword is besides the point. What matters is can Sakura connect with her punch, because her smashing the boulder to enter the cave [and that was one big ass boulder by the way] shows how powerful it is. In the fight with Sasori, Chiyo admits that Sakura did not need her help to maneuver. http://www.onemanga....o_manga/270/11/

As for Sakura and the Zetsu's, you are correct. It clearly shows that she did not see through this deception and let her emotions get the best of her. Like I said she is emotionally weak, as shown by her crush on Sasuke and when she ran straight towards four tailed Naruto. However, Hinata has also lost control of herself due to her emotions.

For example, during the fight with Pain, after Naruto orders everyone to leave Pain to himself, Hinata worried for Naruto, Runs straight into the line of fire and admits that she let her emotions get the best of her when she says she is being selfish.

Now as for Hinata vs. Neji, I did take the opportunity to reread those chapters. Though I don't think she was as impressive as you say.

First off he gives her a chance to forfeit

And though it seemed like she was "pushing him". We see that he had already neutralized her attacks.http://www.onemanga.me/naruto_manga/79/16/

Another point where he asks her to forfeit. http://www.onemanga....to_manga/79/19/

Her blows had no effect on him as he had shut down her chakra flow.http://www.onemanga.me/naruto_manga/80/4/

And finally here we see that he finishes her after she refuses to forfeit with one blow, his master strike. http://www.onemanga....o_manga/270/11/

Neji was in full control of the fight the entire time, the only reason Hinata lasted as long as she did was because he was being merciful in order to give her a chance to forfeit. In the fight against Sasori, not only did Sakura push Sasori to his final resort. 100 puppets. But he was not toying with her. Though Hinata continued to stand up, it was because Neji refused to finish her off trying to give her a chance to surrender.

Therefore, Sakura has not regressed because she has never had any power over Sasuke, still has won fights, IE Zetsu, has always been weak when it comes to Sasuke, and is a powerful ninja in her own right possessing Med ninjutsu skills, superior chakra control and strength, excellent evasion skills, and a keen intellect. She has also always been emotional, and personally the fact that she wanted to help a husband and wife is not necessarily weakness.

Whether Hinata has fought superpowered foes or not, Kishimoto has not shown that she is a physically strong ninja. The fight with Neji which should have been the closest, was a one-sided fight that only lasted as long as Neji wanted it to. Though Hinata has become more courageous, she still has yet to prove her strength in battle.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:38 PM

Hi, can someone give me a scanlation of the official Databook 2 for this part please :

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The one that filled his lonely existence was Sakura

Someone said here it was fake, and I debating right now with a SasuSaku fan, so I want to prove that it's fake.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Apr 10 2013, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, can someone give me a scanlation of the official Databook 2 for this part please :


Someone said here it was fake, and I debating right now with a SasuSaku fan, so I want to prove that it's fake.

I wish I can find it again. I'll ask. I wouldn't say fake, but misled.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

well I have the japanese raw from Sasuke's databook 2:



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