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#16461 FoolishYoungling

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:16 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Apr 10 2013, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
peolpe have to remember that sakura obliterated 2 of sasori's fav puppets plus sasori himself with just a single punch. XD ....her punches are mega deadly, she one hit ko'd a gaint pain summon....plus a zetsu clone~ for bonus.

I'd rather be hit by a hyuuga than sakura. (her punches are death.)

now sakura is smarter AND faster than hinata, that to me gives her the win.

I can't believe I've been thinking Hinata was slightly strong than Sakura in 1v1 combat since the Pain Arc. I have put shame to my title as the #1 Sakura Fanboy.... shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:18 AM

QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 10 2013, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You seem to forget that Hinata has the Byakugan at her disposal. She can quite clearly see when Sakura prepares to use the gas bombs, and will simply avoid being caught within the bomb's area of effect.


Anybody can see when she's gonna use them. Doesn't mean you're gonna simply avoid them...

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:21 AM

QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 10 2013, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You seem to forget that Hinata has the Byakugan at her disposal. She can quite clearly see when Sakura prepares to use the gas bombs, and will simply avoid being caught within the bomb's area of effect.


and it will create opening for sakura to attack her. well if they are hit each other than sakura win, but if hinata can put sakura tenketsu in her hand than hinata win...... does sakura kick perform super streght jutsu or it is only her puch?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:21 AM

I see the battle will be determined by the intellect of a person and Sakura is good at that. Hinata, again, not shown so I can't say anything. Even the fillers doesn't have her think, but just go for attack. I'm not saying she's reckless, but it's really hard to know what kind of fighter she is. Is she just a Neji in a lower level or someone different?

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 10 2013, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and it will create opening for sakura to attack her. well if they are hit each other than sakura win, but if hinata can put sakura tenketsu in her hand than hinata win...... does sakura kick perform super streght jutsu or it is only her puch?

She can do both. Even the movie, made by Kishi, proves it.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 10 April 2013 - 05:23 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 9 2013, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You seem to forget that Hinata has the Byakugan at her disposal. She can quite clearly see when Sakura prepares to use the gas bombs, and will simply avoid being caught within the bomb's area of effect.

You're confusing the attributes of the Byakugan with those of the Sharingan. The Byakugan has no powers of insight/pre-perception, only a near 360 degree view and chakra-infrared vision. Hinata may be able to perceive what Sakura is going to do, but only as it is actually occuring- not beforehand. Her slower speed would then prevent her from reacting fast enough to Sakura's actions. Even in the case of the Sharingan, this applies. In their initial encounter, Sasuke was able to perceive Rock Lee's movements, even before it actually happened. And yet, he was not able to avoid the latters attacks, simply because he was slower than Lee.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:28 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 10 2013, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see the battle will be determined by the intellect of a person and Sakura is good at that. Hinata, again, not shown so I can't say anything. Even the fillers doesn't have her think, but just go for attack. I'm not saying she's reckless, but it's really hard to know what kind of fighter she is. Is she just a Neji in a lower level or someone different?


She can do both. Even the movie, made by Kishi, proves it.


i think she is not smart fighter more like kiba, naruto, chouji, and lee. because of that i think she is weak again genjutsu.

but if i think again being a hyuga give hinata advantage in taijutsu fight but again sakura power attack i though sakura can win it....oh my i confuse???? blowup.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 9 2013, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think she is not smart fighter more like kiba, naruto, chouji, and lee. because of that i think she is weak again genjutsu.

but if i think again being a hyuga give hinata advantage in taijutsu fight but again sakura power attack i though sakura can win it....oh my i confuse???? blowup.gif

If it's any reassurance, I think our friend here may have just conceded in his arguments. happy.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 10 2013, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think she is not smart fighter more like kiba, naruto, chouji, and lee. because of that i think she is weak again genjutsu.

but if i think again being a hyuga give hinata advantage in taijutsu fight but again sakura power attack i though sakura can win it....oh my i confuse???? blowup.gif

Naruto is not a smart fighter like Shikamaru but it's proven that he does think and can be unpredictable. So in a way, he is smart. Why else everyone was impressed by him? He's not only strong, but he also thinks. One of the reasons why I like Pain fight is because even though people saw him DBZ level, the smartness still plays here. Like how he escapes from the chakra-sucking Pain, or how he found a way to stop the revival Pain without letting Pain know, and so on.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 10 2013, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're confusing the attributes of the Byakugan with those of the Sharingan. The Byakugan has no powers of insight/pre-perception, only a near 360 degree view and chakra-infrared vision. Hinata may be able to perceive what Sakura is going to do, but only as it is actually occuring- not beforehand. Her slower speed would then prevent her from reacting fast enough to Sakura's actions. Even in the case of the Sharingan, this applies. In their initial encounter, Sasuke was able to perceive Rock Lee's movements, even before it actually happened. And yet, he was not able to avoid the latters attacks, simply because he was slower than Lee.


There is also the deal with the Rotation, sure it could be used for defensive purposes including dispelling gas due to the spinning motion. It could be increased in terms of size and speed but no matter how much the rotation is used, it has one big weakness, the user is most vulnerable the moment it ends and they cannot restart it again in an instant.

Every power in the series has a weakness which is what makes them good.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 10 2013, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is also the deal with the Rotation, sure it could be used for defensive purposes including dispelling gas due to the spinning motion. It could be increased in terms of size and speed but no matter how much the rotation is used, it has one big weakness, the user is most vulnerable the moment it ends and they cannot restart it again in an instant.

Every power in the series has a weakness which is what makes them good.

That's a none issue here, considering how Hinata is not actually capable of performing Kaiten.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 10 2013, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a none issue here, considering how Hinata is not actually capable of performing Kaiten.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:11 PM

Something off-topic but just wanted to clear things up for those of you who're confused about the interviews including sakura, in the 2010 interview kishi never said hinata would make a better heroine than sakura, but he did say that he tried making sakura look heroic in the kage summit, but he was told that she wasn't like a heroine, and that you say hinata-hinata all the time, and he say's no, i say sakura, and that he'll depict her more as a heroine from now on.

And for those who think hinata was created after naruto, WRONG there was no information to confirm this, in fact naruto, then kakashi was created, and then sakura, sasuke was advised by his editor because the story was reaching no point.

Hinata was never even mentioned.

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Edited by Canadian_DJ, 10 April 2013 - 12:12 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 10 2013, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a none issue here, considering how Hinata is not actually capable of performing Kaiten.
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Edo tensei has many counters remember?

The direct counters to deal with it:

1. Steal the soul of the reanimated, risky though due to a lack of these techniques and the fact that they are forbidden.
2. Get the user to release it, basically genjutsu manipulation but this is what Itachi did.
3. Giving the reanimated a sense of clousre, this is the second most effective but cannot work if the personality is overwritten.

Then there are the nullifying counters, if the above cannot be done this are able to work:

1. Sealing, immoblizing them is the best way to deal with them in the long run, they can only be sealed if they are stunned, weaknend mainly during regeneration, etc.

2. Weaknesses in life, any weaknesses the users carried in life are dependent on them but also carry into the reanimation. Hanzo had his salemander weakness and became immobile because of it.

3. The reanimated can give away their weaknesses and how to defeat them, some can even resist control but not for long.

Then there are the risks:

1. A strong enough genjutsu to break the remote control from the user, either another person or an edo themselves left with their personality could use a genjutsu to trick the user and let them go. The user can counter this if they can catch and attach a control tailisman again.

2. The real risk, the user knows the sealing formula which bounds them to the user. Madara knew the sealing formula which kept him earthbound and undid it so now he is basically uber powered. There is a difference between the seals that grant the user remote controls and the one that binds them to the user for being earthbound.

Even then Madara still has one way to be taken down for now which is obviously sealing. Only way the characters will get around this is if he is Rinne-tensied or the ten tails becomes the bigger problem.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Apr 10 2013, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Something off-topic but just wanted to clear things up for those of you who're confused about the interviews including sakura, in the 2010 interview kishi never said hinata would make a better heroine than sakura, but he did say that he tried making sakura look heroic in the kage summit, but he was told that she wasn't like a heroine, and that you say hinata-hinata all the time, and he say's no, i say sakura, and that he'll depict her more as a heroine from now on.

And for those who think hinata was created after naruto, WRONG there was no information to confirm this, in fact naruto, then kakashi was created, and then sakura, sasuke was advised by his editor because the story was reaching no point.

Hinata was never even mentioned.

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Hey what do the japanese symbols in yor sig mean?

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ナル~サク 4/3 The day he fell in love with her ♥ 豪傑 そして 勇婦
hero, great man and heroine, brave woman


I think the first ones are NaruSaku, right? What about the last ones? Do they mean hero, great man and heroine, brave woman?

Edited by redragon88, 10 April 2013 - 12:21 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 10 2013, 05:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edo tensei has many counters remember?

The direct counters to deal with it:

1. Steal the soul of the reanimated, risky though due to a lack of these techniques and the fact that they are forbidden.
2. Get the user to release it, basically genjutsu manipulation but this is what Itachi did.
3. Giving the reanimated a sense of clousre, this is the second most effective but cannot work if the personality is overwritten.

Then there are the nullifying counters, if the above cannot be done this are able to work:

1. Sealing, immoblizing them is the best way to deal with them in the long run, they can only be sealed if they are stunned, weaknend mainly during regeneration, etc.

2. Weaknesses in life, any weaknesses the users carried in life are dependent on them but also carry into the reanimation. Hanzo had his salemander weakness and became immobile because of it.

3. The reanimated can give away their weaknesses and how to defeat them, some can even resist control but not for long.

Then there are the risks:

1. A strong enough genjutsu to break the remote control from the user, either another person or an edo themselves left with their personality could use a genjutsu to trick the user and let them go. The user can counter this if they can catch and attach a control tailisman again.

2. The real risk, the user knows the sealing formula which bounds them to the user. Madara knew the sealing formula which kept him earthbound and undid it so now he is basically uber powered. There is a difference between the seals that grant the user remote controls and the one that binds them to the user for being earthbound.

Even then Madara still has one way to be taken down for now which is obviously sealing. Only way the characters will get around this is if he is Rinne-tensied or the ten tails becomes the bigger problem.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:43 PM

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QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 10 2013, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Sakura admittedly still has a closer bond to Naruto than does Hinata, romantic or not.

In all seriousness, do you truly think Sakura, after having just realized Hinata's love for Naruto and reflecting upon it herself, would hug Naruto in front of the entire village with romantic intent?
That doesn't speak very well for her character.

The same can be said about the handholding in 615. Do you truly think Naruto, in the middle of a battlefield after his friend just died would hold Hinata's hand with romantic intent? It was a romantic gesture for both events. You may not think so, but the characters in their universe does.

The reason as to why Naruto didn't respond to Sakura's hug is to me that he couldn't believe what was happening. Shock, "Is Sakura really hugging me?". Yes, and she also caressed his neck and that intimate hug is much different from one you would give to your buddy, especially if you're hugging someone in Japan, with a crowd.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 10 2013, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey what do the japanese symbols in yor sig mean?



I think the first ones are NaruSaku, right? What about the last ones? Do they mean hero, great man and heroine, brave woman?

Yeah its narusaku alright, and yes, i checked the accurate translation, you see the samurai artwork, it didn't say make your move heros and heroines, that clearly doesn't make sense, since there's only one of each aka naruto and sakura only, so yeah, it said make your move hero, great man and heroine, brave woman, awsome right?

here read this: ... "Rasengan" has been taught (spiral cancer) to the skill of the hobbyhorse frequency of use is very high in the current through a period of several months is that. ... as part of the mischief, to transform a woman naked " plus the shadow alter ego to it and the art of sex appeal "and" art of Harlem ", a grown man pleasure so I also use (Erotic Ninjutsu) a surgery. ... from Academy when Sakura is that I like (according to the calendar of the way, "Weekly Shonen Jump" magazine included was Naruto Sakura love with the date of the April 3 and things to be).

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Apr 10 2013, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah its narusaku alright, and yes, i checked the accurate translation, you see the samurai artwork, it didn't say make your move heros and heroines, that clearly doesn't make sense, since there's only one of each aka naruto and sakura only, so yeah, it said make your move hero, great man and heroine, brave woman, awsome right?

here read this: ... "Rasengan" has been taught (spiral cancer) to the skill of the hobbyhorse frequency of use is very high in the current through a period of several months is that. ... as part of the mischief, to transform a woman naked " plus the shadow alter ego to it and the art of sex appeal "and" art of Harlem ", a grown man pleasure so I also use (Erotic Ninjutsu) a surgery. ... from Academy when Sakura is that I like (according to the calendar of the way, "Weekly Shonen Jump" magazine included was Naruto Sakura love with the date of the April 3 and things to be).


I don't get the last part.
 
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:16 PM

QUOTE (LadyGT @ Apr 10 2013, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't get the last part.

Agreed, what does all of that mean? What is that about April 3 for Naruto Sakura love?

Edited by redragon88, 10 April 2013 - 01:16 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:41 PM

Hell yeah !!

Dissapointed in Sasuke's apologies to Karin, but man, seeing him uncomfortable with her was so great.
First time seeing Sasuke like this in front of Karin.
Reinforced a lot of the SasuKarin pairing to me.


Surprised about Sasuke's objectives ? Yes.
I mean, I knew he would become neither a good or bad guy, but man, to expcect he would protect Konoha himself ?
I can't imagine how the Naruto VS Sasuke fight will take place.

We know that Itachi is counting on Naruto to change Sasuke. Means that he's not healed yet.
Gundam scenario how much ? No bad guys, just two people who wants peace with different methods.

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