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[Don-kun]

What?
I think you dont get what i say if the part where she almost kissed the fake Sasuke was a reason for her to love Sasuke should had been bought up,if the forehead was also a reason for her to love Sasuke should had been bought up, the scenes were the scene should had been bought up the panel did not showed up, the parts that bought up was the serious parts, the one where she said Naruto was annoying and Sasuke's saying that she was annoying those parts played an important role while the forehead thing not.

Proof : "The first time that you talked to me", the part that bought up is the part when she talked with the real Sasuke, and then the part when she thought about thinking that Naruto was annoying the part that bought up was the fake Sasuke.

Also i feel that she cried there because she realized that she said he was annoying to him and Naruto well...
She realized she was well you know of with Naruto.
That part was sad, she was an ass to Naruto and even tried to leave him behind when he only wanted to make her happy, this is the reason why the whole part 2 is Sakura trying to redeem herself to Naruto.

I use a panel to show you how the moment is important to Sakura, A Manga Panel.

lastly it my be speculation but it's a avoids speculation if Kishi did show that scene in her flashback before she attempted on Sasuke's life, There would be no tension between NS and SS if Kishi showed the readers that the only reason why Sakura still refuse to let go of Sasuke was because of that scene, if the murder attempt killed the pairing according to us, then that scene would of giving it the final blow, by now every readers would acknowledge that SS is based on a lie and there would be no excuse to keep believing on the pairing.
With out that scene and 540 people can still question what will be Kishi's decision in regards of the final pairing.

Edited by Don-kun, 10 April 2013 - 12:44 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I use a panel to show you how the moment is important to Sakura, A Manga Panel.

lastly it my be speculation but it's a avoids speculation if Kishi did show that scene in her flashback before she attempted on Sasuke's life, There would be no tension between NS and SS if Kishi showed the readers that the only reason why Sakura still refuse to let go of Sasuke was because of that scene, if the murder attempt killed the pairing according to us, then that scene would of giving it the final blow, by now every readers would acknowledge that SS is based on a lie and there would be no excuse to keep believing on the pairing.
With out that scene and 540 people can still question what will be Kishi's decision in regards of the final pairing.

Sakura tried to kill her and even treated her like a trash, this is already way more reason for her to move on, add this or not does not give sense to the SS, which is summed up on half of a panel.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 April 2013 - 12:45 AM.

[Shadow1275]

It's difficult to say. Her development has been neglected for so long that even if she were to finally start living up to her name as the series' heroine, it would not undo all the years she spent as slightly more than pairing fodder.
But if Kishi can somehow have Sakura do the following this late into the series without relying on asspulls, then I might start liking her as much as I did during the beginning of Part 2:

-Get over her love for Sasuke
-Actually do something significant to help Naruto instead of lamenting over the fact that she can never do anything to help him
-Finally surpass Tsunade in skill, as most people initially expected her to
-Start actively affecting the story like a main character should (which doesn't seem very feasible at this point, given how she has no involvement in the Senju/Uchiha conflict, and how she has taken on a passive role in the Team 7 subplot)

You already know what I agree and disagree with here and why. The only thing that I will say is you can't base Sakura's character off of the Team 7 plot because there never was one. Kakashi taught Sasuke the chidori [Dumbest move ever] in order to keep him from joining Orochimaru and look how that turned out. As I showed in my post, Sasuke never considered Sakura a worthy part of his life ignoring her over the curse mark and then when she tried to convince him to stay. The only person who Sasuke ever paid attention to was Naruto.

[redragon88]

I'm curious as to your speculations over what Sakura might do to help Naruto significantly at this point. Simply saving his life by healing him would be rather predictable and fail to impress most readers.

I'd want Sakura to actually assist Naruto in order to take down an enemy. I find it ridiculous that with Sakura's super strength combat prowess that made her rock in the Sasori arc that Kishi would now let her stay in the background in what might be the last great battle that she'll be involved in. Sakura's power taijutsu separates her from the rest of the medic-nin, so it would be a shame that Kishi decides to not exploit that her. He did it perfectly with Tsunade.

That brings me up to my next thought. In this last arc, for some reason, we're introduced to Tsunade's medic rules that basically forbid medic-nin to have direct frontal involvement in battle, that's for course except if you posses the Strength of a Hundred jutsu. In one hand it could be an excuse to purposely push Sakura away from battle, on the other hand, it could foreshadow Sakura maybe utilizing that same technique in order to have a direct role in battle while obeying the rules.

Sakura's mastery of the Strength of a Hundred would basically be the moment she surpasses her teacher. But just to be clear, even I know that Sakura knowing that technique right now is too far fetched (she doesn't even have a diamond symbol). I just mentioned it because it's funny how this would truly be a missed opportunity if Kishi doesn't do it.

With Sakura being a near copy of Tsunade you'd expect her to take on combat roles that mirror her teacher (like in the Sasori arc), so her being relegated to the background just proves that Kishi truly has every faulty writing.

[Shadow1275]

During the period of time in which I was still lurking this forum, I glossed over quite a few posts here and there that used Sakura's involvement within the Team 7 storyline as justification of her status as the series' heroine, and yet here I'm being told that Sakura's character should not be based off of that very same storyline? (Forgive me if you don't happen share such views with those people)

Fair point. Personally I don't think that Sakura was ever really a factor. You could make an argument either way. Though did you think about that question I asked earlier?

Hinata's emotional development and emotional strength is unquestionable. However, she has not won a fight yet, How do you think this affects her strength as a character? I just wanted to hear your opinion.

Edited by Shadow1275, 10 April 2013 - 01:11 AM.

[swagosaurus]

A lack of battle feats displayed does not translate to physical weakness. I daresay Hinata could defeat Sakura in a fight.

I strongly disagree. Not only is Sakura faster, stronger, and incredibly intelligent compared to Hinata, but her stats are overall better than Hinata's.

[redragon88]

A lack of battle feats displayed does not translate to physical weakness. I daresay Hinata could defeat Sakura in a fight.

Uh, now it's getting fun. Do tell.

[rocci]

A lack of battle feats displayed does not translate to physical weakness. I daresay Hinata could defeat Sakura in a fight.

If she can use kaiten than yes Hinata win.

[Shadow1275]

A lack of battle feats displayed does not translate to physical weakness. I daresay Hinata could defeat Sakura in a fight.

So then Sakura who has supposedly lacked battles is a weak character? As for the one-on one perhaps with her byakugan but Sakura also possesses all of Tsunade's techniques minus Katsuyu and the yin seal though I doubt we will ever find out.

My opinion is this: Sakura and Hinata mirror each other in this way. Sakura has already proven her physical strength. Minus the Yin seal, she has all the skills that Tsunade, a Sannin, possesses. However, emotionally when it comes to Sasuke she is weak.

Hinata started out as a weak character but has progressed hugely emotionally and is now a strong emotional character. However, one point that has been constantly made by NH fans and correct me if I am wrong you as well, that Sakura is a weak character because she has always needed to be saved by Naruto. The problem I have with this is that when it comes to Hinata who has not won a fight, all of a sudden the idea of weakness through being saved suddenly disappears. Hinata has had to rely on others when it comes to fighting IE Naruto and Neji, Naruto and Pain, Neji and Obito/Madara/Ten-Tails.

My question is this: considering the above how can you consider her strong physically?

@Swagosaurus

Is that based on the Databook because thats too old to be considered in a one-on-one fight here.

Edited by Shadow1275, 10 April 2013 - 01:36 AM.

[redragon88]

If she can use kaiten than yes Hinata win.

Why would kaiten allow her to win?

[MistFlower]

Hello there! Welcome to H&E!

Nice Sig!

Aww, Thanks

That brings me up to my next thought. In this last arc, for some reason, we're introduced to Tsunade's medic rules that basically forbid medic-nin to have direct frontal involvement in battle, that's for course except if you posses the Strength of a Hundred jutsu. In one hand it could be an excuse to purposely push Sakura away from battle, on the other hand, it could foreshadow Sakura maybe utilizing that same technique in order to have a direct role in battle while obeying the rules.

Sakura's mastery of the Strength of a Hundred would basically be the moment she surpasses her teacher. But just to be clear, even I know that Sakura knowing that technique right now is too far fetched (she doesn't even have a diamond symbol). I just mentioned it because it's funny how this would truly be a missed opportunity if Kishi doesn't do it.

With Sakura being a near copy of Tsunade you'd expect her to take on combat roles that mirror her teacher (like in the Sasori arc), so her being relegated to the background just proves that Kishi truly has every faulty writing.

To tell you the truth, I have been wondering about this ever since 617 when it was so painfully obvious that Sakura was missing. And honestly, the circumstances for this are almost too convenient. It would make sense that if Sakura wasn't fighting alongside Naruto, that she would go and heal the Kages, since being a medic nin is her job. And I think it is logical to assume that Tsunade healed the remaining Kages or is in the process of it. And also, wouldn't it make sense if Tsunade was dying that Sakura, her student, were there for some sort of moment? Not to mention the whole forehead thing, and Sakura's little speech in 573. And I'm also glad that I wasn't the only one that thought that Tsunade's 4 medic rules were kind of random. It just seems like Kishi has something planned for her. But then again, I wouldn't say that I'd be truly surprised if it didn't happen.

Edited by MistFlower, 10 April 2013 - 01:41 AM.

[merryGOflava]

A lack of battle feats displayed does not translate to physical weakness. I daresay Hinata could defeat Sakura in a fight.

ohh snap.

[rocci]

Why would kaiten allow her to win?

Kaiten give her strong defend again tai and most nin jutsu, and sakura is close fighter and Hinata is a hyugaa who specialize in tai jutsu area and their gentle fist is deadly if you get hit.

Oh btw I didn't include sakura poison attack.

[StriderC]

Well, I said I was gonna draw Sakura with a ponytail. She's a little older here. Anyway, here it is! I'm debating if I should finish it though.


I wanted her hair sort to resemble her fathers when it comes to the actual ponytail.

Edited by StriderC, 10 April 2013 - 01:46 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Aww, Thanks



To tell you the truth, I have been wondering about this ever since 617 when it was so painfully obvious that Sakura was missing. And honestly, the circumstances for this are almost too convenient. It would make sense that if Sakura wasn't fighting alongside Naruto, that she would go and heal the Kages, since being a medic nin is her job. And I think it is logical to assume that Tsunade healed the remaining Kages or is in the process of it. And also, wouldn't it make sense if Tsunade was dying that Sakura, her student, were there for some sort of moment? Not to mention the whole forehead thing, and Sakura's little speech in 573. And I'm also glad that I wasn't the only one that thought that Tsunade's 4 medic rules were kind of random. It just seems like Kishi has something planned for her. But then again, I wouldn't say that I'd be truly surprised if it didn't happen.

Well Tsunade has been bisected in two for a couple chapters. One of the themes is that when a mentor dies, their closest student inherits their will and sometimes their technique. IE Shikamaru and Asuma, Jiraiya and Naruto=Sage mode. My guess is because Tsunade is about to die and considering the 4 edicts that Sakura has yet to break, I think that Tsunade will die with Sakura there and she will pass on the yin seal.

[rikakim94]

Well, I said I was gonna draw Sakura with a ponytail. She's a little older here. Anyway, here it is! I'm debating if I should finish it though.


I wanted her hair sort to resemble her fathers when it comes to the actual ponytail.

Wow that's pretty! I do like her with a pony tail up.

[redragon88]

Kaiten give her strong defend again tai and most nin jutsu, and sakura is close fighter and Hinata is a hyugaa who specialize in tai jutsu area and their gentle fist is deadly if you get hit.

Oh btw I didn't include sakura poison attack.

That's true, but if Sakura can time her attack right then she could go on the offensive while Hinata wasn't using the kaiten. I mean, in Part 1 Naruto beat Neji despite him being able to use kaiten.

[StriderC]

Wow that's pretty! I do like her with a pony tail up.

Thanks Rika! Glad you like it! I didn't want to give her tooooo much length with her hair. I think a little past shoulder length works for her, and instead of going to Tsunade copy route with her hair, I think this would work well for her to follow go the route of her father. It fits her last name also.

[rocci]

That's true, but if Sakura can time her attack right then she could go on the offensive while Hinata wasn't using the kaiten. I mean, in Part 1 Naruto beat Neji despite him being able to use kaiten.

Naruto won because of Kyubi chakra and surprise attack, so I always put sakura in disadvantage if sakura one on one with Hinata in tai jutsu area. Sure sakura can one hit ko Hinata if she can land clean hit and this is where Hinata need kaiten to repel incoming attack.

Then again I don't include poison attack.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Naruto won because of Kyubi chakra and surprise attack, so I always put sakura in disadvantage if sakura one on one with Hinata in tai jutsu area. Sure sakura can one hit ko Hinata if she can land clean hit and this is where Hinata need kaiten to repel incoming attack.

Then again I don't include poison attack.

She can hit the ground to mess up the balance for Hinata doing kaiten.