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#16341 Gojira

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:55 AM

No.


wynaut?

It seems to me there's enough sufficient evidence that Kishi would have to flat out go out of his way to contradict just to give another pair just as much of a fighting chance.

Unless ofcourse your saying it just by playing safe which I understand.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 11:04 AM

wynaut?

It seems to me there's enough sufficient evidence that Kishi would have to flat out go out of his way to contradict just to give another pair just as much of a fighting chance.

Unless ofcourse your saying it just by playing safe which I understand.

When it's canon you'll know :hehehe:


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 11:46 AM

I believe, kishi will give sakura a fight if she gain a sage mode along with a genjutsu training and an elemental jutsu hopefully since kishi will finish what he start in early part two. 

 

sakura is like a mix of haruka(slamdunk) and anna(shaman king)

 

 

 

btw. for shaman king reader, did anna have a fight againt a name character in shaman king?



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:03 PM

I'm pretty sure Naruto will refill Sakura's chakra reserve once he will be awake for real. So, She could be able to fight if Kishimoto wants to allow her to

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:10 PM

I'm pretty sure Naruto will refill Sakura's chakra reserve once he will be awake for real. So, She could be able to fight if Kishimoto wants to allow her to
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That ain't a bad idea XD lol but how bout this for head twister!!! Instead of naruto replenishing her chakra, what if Karin gave her more chakra by letting sakura bite her??? I mean she did it for tsunade and plus Karin owes sakura a favor for saving her life in the land of iron >X)

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:33 PM

That ain't a bad idea XD lol but how bout this for head twister!!! Instead of naruto replenishing her chakra, what if Karin gave her more chakra by letting sakura bite her??? I mean she did it for tsunade and plus Karin owes sakura a favor for saving her life in the land of iron >X)

lol that would be funny and shock Naruto think Sakura likes girls lol after all its Naruto and he is not known for being smart.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:43 PM

Basically its no suprise if this is happening in his mind while he was on life support from sakura or if this is happening currently and its just a short sequence or happening very fast, whatever the case, naruto is as far as we know, alright but he just needs to be brought out of the coma, heck what if the way he gets out is by Sakura doing something :chuckle:

 

 

LOL, for some reason the only thing I can think of is "true love's first kiss". :lulz:

 

(Oh my god I spend way too much time watching Disney movies!  :lmao: )


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:14 PM

I kind of want Sakura to be SOMEONE's reincarnation just so I can hear her haters try to justify trying to downplay her. 



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:27 PM

Hey guys its just clicked me now. Kishi hasen't showed Naruto's second element affinity right? I mean when Naruto was training for Rasenshuriken, Kakashi had stated that there are generally two elements which a person shows affinity to. As far as we all know, Naruto's first element is wind. What about the second one? Fire? During the pain arc when he was in six tailed mode, he did show some fire display because of Kurama. So I take it his second element is fire. Guys, what are your opinions on this?


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:28 PM

I hate the idea of Naruto's journey being pre-determined by fate

It makes everything seem less climactic when he was destined to rise to the top from the beginning, I was o with the vague "prophecy-child" statements during the Pein arc but this....idk

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:50 PM

I hate the idea of Naruto's journey being pre-determined by fate

It makes everything seem less climactic when he was destined to rise to the top from the beginning, I was o with the vague "prophecy-child" statements during the Pein arc but this....idk

had Naruto never did anything , his fate would have been to be hated . Naruto changed his destiny as far as I can tell .
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:56 PM

had Naruto never did anything , his fate would have been to be hated . Naruto changed his destiny as far as I can tell .


The problem is he was destined for great things from the getgo so him living a life of being hated was never a threat to begin with. It just takes away from the moment.

Its like if a character was put in a situation where he was going to die but pulls through with nothing but willpower and believing in himself that would be inspirational but then the writer comes along and says something that would take the inspiration out like "well he was never in any real danger to begin with since it was his destiny to break out" It just makes the character lose connection with the audience.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:02 PM

I hate the idea of Naruto's journey being pre-determined by fate

It makes everything seem less climactic when he was destined to rise to the top from the beginning, I was o with the vague "prophecy-child" statements during the Pein arc but this....idk

 

I agree with you. Though the reincarnation thing was hardly unexpected, as it's been foreshadowed that Naruto had some connection to the Sage for a while, it still makes Naruto's accomplishments feel less meaningful than before. I don't personally hold any belief in the concept of reincarnation, but I can accept it as part of a story if it is introduced in the beginning (like A:TLA), but this late in the game it just seems cheap.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:02 PM


Its not only pathetic and immature but more than that, its CHEAP way too CHEAP! I mean how can they even compare Kushina and Hinata based on this factor. Comparing Kushina and Hinata based on personality though not valid and is still idiotic can be accepted infront of this idiotic stuff. I don't get worked up when it comes to NH because most of the times I ignore them, but this, I just couldn't ignore this thing! It gets me worked up everytime I think about it. Even if they are just 14 year olds, they should atleast have some sense about what they are talking. I am sure everyone of us here atleast had some sense on which things to compare when we were 14 year olds. This just cannot be excused. GROSS!!! Simply GROSS. Kushina and Hinata deserve things and comparisons much better than this. 

 

P.S- I am sorry for such a downpour of emotions, but I just couldn't help it. My apologies if this post was troublesome, but these were my thoughts about it.

 

Hinata and Kushina are NOTHING alike. Hinata is shy, timid, weak, and quiet. Kushina Is Loud, outgoing, bombastic, and powerful. they don't even look alike. Sakura on the other hand is VERY much like Kushina. Like her Sakura is also Loud, outgoing, bombastic, and powerful. so NH fans are compairing Hinata to Naruto's mother? feh, don't make me laugh  :lol: . people have also compaired hinata to Minato, and Naruto to his mother..... they are 1/2 right there. Naruto IS some what like his mom, but Hinata is NOTHING like Naruto's father. Minato is almost EXACTLY like naruto in persnality (according to lore). so with that in mind hinata is actually the opposite of both his parents. Sorry NH fans, but I think NS is going cannon one way or another.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:14 PM

 

Hinata and Kushina are NOTHING alike. Hinata is shy, timid, weak, and quiet. Kushina Is Loud, outgoing, bombastic, and powerful. they don't even look alike. Sakura on the other hand is VERY much like Kushina. Like her Sakura is also Loud, outgoing, bombastic, and powerful. so NH fans are compairing Hinata to Naruto's mother? feh, don't make me laugh  :lol: . people have also compaired hinata to Minato, and Naruto to his mother..... they are 1/2 right there. Naruto IS some what like his mom, but Hinata is NOTHING like Naruto's father. Minato is almost EXACTLY like naruto in persnality (according to lore). so with that in mind hinata is actually the opposite of both his parents. Sorry NH fans, but I think NS is going cannon one way or another.

Bro, that's what I was saying  :ermm:  :confused:. 'Comparing Kushina and Hinata based on personality THOUGH NOT VALID AND STILL IDIOTIC' were my words.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:40 PM

Eh despite no new episode this week, over the weekend the dub version of 235 comes out (this is the filler which naruto says he still loves sakura) I just wonder how viz handled this one and how the anime only crowd will react to it. Maybe it will be funny.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:02 PM

They will say its FILLER its not canon it doesn't count. Yet they believe the Hinata filler version from 437 or any Hinata filler whenever she thinks of Naruto.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:34 PM

Anyone who still makes the argument about Hinata and a Kushina parallel should just be ignored, 631 shot this out of the sky pretty quickly.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:46 PM

Ok well here's the thing. No one tells Naruto that the road he's going to have. This revelation is ok timing because everything is already set. Here's the thing as well. Hagoromo has said that he reminds of him because of the path he took. Understand the context of his meaning because that would mean Naruto just happens to take that path. Again, Naruto could have taken Sasuke's path as Naruto even said it because nothing is predetermined. Hell, same could be said to Kagome. She could just go home and ignore it even though later on it follows. The idea is you're reincarnated, but you make the decision. Naruto decided to go to his path. It's not like he did like:

Naruto: what's that? Oh ok. My other half said that Zabuza and Haku died like normal people. Oh, he said he doesn't like the way on how shinobi works.

I don't get how hard is to understand. Just maybe I get it if it happens in the beginning of time, but Naruto is at the end. Why this do anything wrong? Do you see Naruto saying "Well, I'm going to a new path." Hell, why don't you wait on what's going to be said in the next chapter. Patient is a virtue. Just stop hijacking and just take a breather and wait for the story unfold. I always waited and here am I, now actually getting upset but not the manga, but the opinion that don't get the idea perfectly. If you don't like it, that's fine, but don't trying to hamper the idea that's not what Kishi is saying.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

I always count Filler, but only if it meets 3 conditions

 

1. It must have meaning.

 

2. It must go somewhere.

 

3.Humor needs to be kept in short supply.

 

most of the NH filler moments do none of these.

 

Naruto sees Hinata naked, didn't go anywhere, nor dose he know its her, or is it ever brought up again. it DOES how ever foreshadow her training. so although its not a NH moment, it is some what development to Hinata's character..... not that it makes a difference since as I said before. everything she dose either backfires or is all for nothing. they failed the mission so they never accomplished anything (just another reason why I hate Hinata).

 

the first few missions with Naruto and sakura after sasuke left. It goes somewhere. there is little humor, and there reason for it. so I every moment of it. even if they didn'y bring sasuke back or find the sound village, they DID find out that sasuke was still alive and safe so they did get something accomplished.

 

I'm starting to see a pattern here. We see a NS moment in a mission = something gets done regardless of failure or success. NH in a mission = nothing gets done and it all is pointless. the only execption to this rule is the episode where Naruto, Kiba, and Hinata have to go on a "Mission" or else they'll go back to the academy.... I don't count it either.... why? because the whole thing was a fix. they were never in danger or life threatening trubble. in every true mission that is not the case, even in a D rank Mission you could die. not the case in this episode.

 

I'm sorry NH fans, but It looks like NH moments are almost nonexistent in act I.


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