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[StrikerTheNoble]

You know what. I`m going to say it. I prefer SS to NH (part 1 version anyway). And here`s why. Sakura got to know Sasuke. She knew what drove him. She knew a lot about him. Hinata on the other hand just "loved" Naruto for no damm reason. Her reasons are hes alone and hard working. That`s not how you choose a life partner. Those are skills apropriate for an inspiration poster.
Naruto knows Sakura like his own pocket, and she knows him too.

Everything Hinata has done for Naruto was a coincidence. In the confession she awoke the Kyuubi, whom she did not know was there in the first place. Then was lucky enough that Minato was there to stop him. Nice job Hinata, take some of your loves years off his life. Than theres 615. Her speach wasn`t working. Kuramas did. But she still didn`t know that.

There. Also crimson check out the corner for some laughs at your pairing.

[Slextrem]

There. Also crimson check out the corner for some laughs at your pairing.

That was incredibly uncalled for. I thought bashing is against the rules here on H&E.

You know, Crimson is a really nice person. I've been PMing him since early this evening and I've really enjoyed the conversation. If everyone would take the time to get to know him instead of attacking him on the spot for posting his viewpoints, (which just so happen to be different from ours - big whoop), you might feel the same way. Instead of being defensive because he prefers Hinata & NaruHina over Sakura & NaruSaku, why don't you try being civil? Lord knows it wouldn't hurt you.

I'm not just talking to Striker on this, by the way.

Edited by Slextrem, 09 April 2013 - 05:03 AM.

[Shadow1275]

That was incredibly uncalled for. I thought bashing is against the rules here on H&E.

You know, Crimson is a really nice person. I've been PMing him since early this evening and I've really enjoyed the conversation. If everyone would take the time to get to know him instead of attacking him on the spot for posting his viewpoints, (which just so happen to be different from ours - big whoop), you might feel the same way. Instead of being defensive because he prefers Hinata & NaruHina over Sakura & NaruSaku, why don't you try being civil? Lord knows it wouldn't hurt you.

I'm not just talking to Striker on this, by the way.

I've got no problem with his viewpoints nor with him as a person. The thing is this is a debate thread and he posted evidence and claimed that Sakura had become a weak character. What I say he can take it or leave it and it won't make a difference to me. Though I will say that for future debates it might be better to keep it one on one so that one person does not feel like they are being ganged up on. And I agree Striker, that was a little much.

Edited by Shadow1275, 09 April 2013 - 05:16 AM.

[rocci]

Apparently, you missed the part where I said that I was using such panels to generalize the idea behind my beliefs. They were not intended to show all the development of either pairing.
Even then, since when did the quantity of shared panels insinuate better development? For all your scenes of Sakura wishing that she could do something significant to help Naruto, Hinata has gone out there and actually succeeded in doing so. Ch.615 should have been a good opportunity for the apparent heroine of the series to step up and display her understanding of Naruto by helping him through his emotional crisis, and yet such a significant role was not given to her. In fact, she is left on the sidelines gawking at Naruto and Hinata. Whether it be due to jealously, guilt, shock, or whatever in the context of the situation, the fact remains that she did not live up to her convictions.

hinata is a shy character who love the boy from behind the tree. and like many said it is side character moment because it include the hyuga(neji, hinata, and his father). and if you read that chapter, obito taunt naruto because he unable to protect his friend. just like hinata confension to naruto in pain arc.

and...what do you think about obirin?

[Slextrem]

I've got no problem with his viewpoints nor with him as a person. The thing is this is a debate thread and he posted evidence and claimed that Sakura had become a weak character. What I say he can take it or leave it and it won't make a difference to me. Though I will say that for future debates it might be better to keep it one on one so that one person does not feel like they are being ganged up on. And I agree Striker, that was a little much.

You were actually debating. Thank you for sticking to your points and not using the opportunity to take a jab at the other party. I've seen plenty of people do that today and I'm tired of it. It's like we're a big group of bullies.

All I'm asking is that, if we are going to engage in a debate, we do so in a respectful manner. We don't need to belittle the other party just because they see something differently than we do. Follow the rules of H&E. It's not that hard to do.



Anytime, Crimson!

Edited by Slextrem, 09 April 2013 - 05:37 AM.

[rocci]

You were actually debating. Thank you for sticking to your points and not using the opportunity to take a jab at the other party. I've seen plenty of people do that today and I'm tired of it. It's like we're a big group of bullies.

All I'm asking is that, if we are going to engage in a debate, we do so in a respectful manner. We don't need to belittle the other party just because they see something differently than we do. Follow the rules of H&E. It's not that hard to do.



Anytime, Crimson!

there are fan type in this forum base on hokage. hasirama type( tolerant) and tobirama type(strict???), but of them love konoha(narusaku/this forum). so i think it's alright. oh and crimson can ignore tobirama type

[TouKen4Life3g]

I must admit, I feel like typing good length posts again. To be honest, not trying to sound cocky, but I am one of those top debater in here. You can say I'm on vacation. Actually, some people here may remember the LAP that I made that got many views from here and NF. As of now, well, I think there are many great debaters out there, so I just stopped. Plus, sometimes I get ignored, so work is not really credited. But oh well, I enjoyed what I wrote and don't really regret it.

[rocci]

I must admit, I feel like typing good length posts again. To be honest, not trying to sound cocky, but I am one of those top debater in here. You can say I'm on vacation. Actually, some people here may remember the LAP that I made that got many views from here and NF. As of now, well, I think there are many great debaters out there, so I just stopped. Plus, sometimes I get ignored, so work is not really credited. But oh well, I enjoyed what I wrote and don't really regret it.

because the lack of ns developement(which i belive we will get it when sakura come or obito tnj). but i like your lap, because you along with the other can stand in middle. hope you understand, sorry bad english

oh btw if you don't mind, i suggest you should read berserk, especially the golden arc if you can deal with high violence.

i think that's the answer of naruto sasuke sakura relationship

Edited by rocci, 09 April 2013 - 06:20 AM.

[Awes9]

It's always like that here whenever there's someone who dares to go against the opinion's majority. Is that too hard for people to behave respectfully just because the other part doesn't share your opinion ? At least there are some people sensible enough to to understand that nothing will be accomplished by behaving that way, thank you Slextrem Inferno180 and Shadow. Please don't let others silence you crimson and keep on posting even tough I don't agree with you I will defend your right to speak. Welcome and enjoy your stay with us.

[redragon88]

That edict was already broken when she indeed went on the front lines as part of Kakashi's division at the outset of the war:

show --Click here to view--

Though she was later on suddenly transported for no apparent reason back amongst Shizune's medical division.

Um, medics are needed to be in the front lines in order to do emergency treatments, that's common sense for war. They just don't do the heavy fighting. If you keep reading into that fight you'll see a panel of Sakura treating the injured.

One Zetsu, amongst the eighty thousand that have been killing and been getting killed by tens of thousands of Shinobi :

show --Click here to view--

It may have been a fair display of intelligence on her part, but as far as "annihilating him in one blow" goes, it's not a great physical feat at all.
And I am not at all against her coming to view her love as bad. It would certainly alleviate some of the damage done to her character development if she were to finally get over her long-standing illogical love for him.

I loved that panel. Zetsus = Giant wood powered ants.

Indeed, what Sakura did with Zetsu was not about fighting but to showcase her acute sense of perception. It was an impressive feat of it's own, or at least that's how I think Kishi wanted to portray it. Unfortunately people that despise Sakura do everything they can to downplay it as nothing. Many reviewers on youtube praised Sakura for what she did, and some even say that the only bad part of that chapter was her thinking of Sasuke.

Therein lies another problem with Sakura's role as the heroine. She's supposed to be intrinsically involved within the Team 7 subplot, and yet she is incapable of doing anything to affect Sasuke. In fact, she deems it appropriate to leave Sasuke up to Naruto, which destroyed the purpose and motivation behind her character development- to rescue Sasuke together.

show --Click here to view--

Because of Kishi's desire to leave the main conflict between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura has lost much of her original purpose.

If Sakura could affect Sasuke in such a way then what would Naruto's job be?

It seems to me that Sakura's heroine role is not about how she affects Team 7 but on how they affect her. The way she reflects on her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke is evidence of that. If you don't think that's an appropriate role for a heroine, it can't really help you with that. This is all my opinion as well.

I think that being together with Naruto has changed from helping him save Sasuke to assisting him with the rest of his burdens, i.e. saving the world. Or at least that's how it will be if Kishi follows through with Sakura's speech in 573. The juubi battle is not over so it wouldn't be right to say that it's not gonna happen.

Part of the point of the Summit arc, to me, was to establish how Naruto and Sasuke have an intertwined destiny that they'll need to resolve just the two of them without any additional interference. And to be honest, when you see how the manga progressed it seemed obvious that as it reached to the end the issues with Sasuke would solely be upon Naruto to solve.

As to Sakura being weak when it comes to Sasuke, where do you think Sakura's drive to fight Sasori came from, back when her conviction had not yet been thrown aside?

show --Click here to view--

I think that when they say weak is about her romantic love for him. Remember how Sakura was trapped in the poison mist and liberated herself from it with explosions? A risky strategy, but Sakura did it anyway because she remembered how she wants to help both Naruto and Sasuke.

I'm not taking way from her drive related to Sasuke, I'm just saying that her true drive in the end involves both of them. Her drive for Sasuke at that moment didn't come from her romantic love for him, it came from her desire to protect the bond of Team 7.

Apparently, Naruto disagrees once again:

show --Click here to view--

Because of Hinata's inherent understanding of Naruto and his principles, she, unlike Itachi and her late cousin, is able to properly convey Neji's words to Naruto so that he could begin to understand their significance. Kurama may have been the catalyst of his rebounding, but she was the underlying cause, and Naruto acknowledges that.

That's true, but that only means that it was a combination of Neji, Hinata, Kurama, and realizing about all the people that died to protect the future, that helped Naruto get back on his feet. Hinata was a help, but she wasn't more special than the rest. But Naruto would obviously acknowledge her role and thank her for staying at his side when he was doubting himself. And remember that he immediately also thanked Neji as well for his powerful dying words.

Here's some fun to end it. DO THE HARLEM SHAKE!

[TouKen4Life3g]

because the lack of ns developement(which i belive we will get it when sakura come or obito tnj). but i like your lap, because you along with the other can stand in middle. hope you understand, sorry bad english

oh btw if you don't mind, i suggest you should read berserk, especially the golden arc if you can deal with high violence.

i think that's the answer of naruto sasuke sakura relationship

Well, it's more like I think I did enough to make a point. But lately, like Shadow, there has been someone that really reminds me of myself and it's nice to see someone share the same opinions. So it's nice. Plus, I took a long break by doing stuff I need to be doing like finishing some games, cleaning, etc. Don't worry, your English is good.

Berserk is crazy. I should read it. I can handle it. Is that so, according to your post?

@redragon88: I agree with you, especially about Sasori's part. People needs to stop with shipping goggle and look at the way how it's written. Clearly, Sakura wanted to get better to help Naruto and Sasuke. She said it after that moment and thus, it's confirmed that she's doing it to help both.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 09 April 2013 - 06:47 AM.

[Shadow1275]

That edict was already broken when she indeed went on the front lines as part of Kakashi's division at the outset of the war:

show --Click here to view--

Though she was later on suddenly transported for no apparent reason back amongst Shizune's medical division.


One Zetsu, amongst the eighty thousand that have been killing and been getting killed by tens of thousands of Shinobi :

show --Click here to view--

It may have been a fair display of intelligence on her part, but as far as "annihilating him in one blow" goes, it's not a great physical feat at all.
And I am not at all against her coming to view her love as bad. It would certainly alleviate some of the damage done to her character development if she were to finally get over her long-standing illogical love for him.


Therein lies another problem with Sakura's role as the heroine. She's supposed to be intrinsically involved within the Team 7 subplot, and yet she is incapable of doing anything to affect Sasuke. In fact, she deems it appropriate to leave Sasuke up to Naruto, which destroyed the purpose and motivation behind her character development- to rescue Sasuke together.

show --Click here to view--

Because of Kishi's desire to leave the main conflict between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura has lost much of her original purpose.

As to Sakura being weak when it comes to Sasuke, where do you think Sakura's drive to fight Sasori came from, back when her conviction had not yet been thrown aside?

show --Click here to view--

Apparently, Naruto disagrees once again:

show --Click here to view--

Because of Hinata's inherent understanding of Naruto and his principles, she, unlike Itachi and her late cousin, is able to properly convey Neji's words to Naruto so that he could begin to understand their significance. Kurama may have been the catalyst of his rebounding, but she was the underlying cause, and Naruto acknowledged that.




And you think it fit to call your pairing fandom any better than the "ignorant fans" of other pairings? Your post speaks volumes otherwise.

Thanks Slextrem, thanks Shadow.

P.S. @Inferno180 If I do end up responding to your post as well, it will have to be done tomorrow. My apologies.

No problem. Look let me just make this clear, I don't expect you to change your pairing at all or accept what I say at all. I also don't think NH is wrong or that NS is canon or destined. I'm just into debating for the fun of it. Like I said, what I say you can take it or leave it.

Now for the fun part,

For the edicts they are as follows:

1. No med nin shall give up on treating a breathing teammate

2. Med Nin are not allowed to engage in battles-Nothing against being on the front lines

3. Med-Nin shall be the last ones to die on a team

4. Only Med Nin who have mastered Strength of a Hundred are allowed to break the above rules.

Though Sakura is on the front lines, she has never engaged in Direct combat. Only in Self-defense and therefore has abided by these rules. These are the exact translations as one manga gets their scans from manga panda http://www.onemanga....to_manga/577/2/

As for the sudden transportation to shizune Instant Transmission maybe?????

As for Zetsu Sakura has always been intelligent and you acknowledged this so no quarrel. My main point with that confrontation is that she did not need help from others.

Though one Zetsu clone did survive a direct blow from Neji a powerful ninja http://www.onemanga....o_manga/524/17/

Sakura's love for Sasuke is definitely her greatest character flaw so no issues there.

As for the team 7 idea. That was never part of my point.

When Sasuke left in part 1, His goals were to sever the bonds he had made with his teammates. With Sakura he was successful. Sakura for who knows what still feels for Sasuke. However, in both reunions Sasuke shows no concern at all for Sakura showing that his bond with her has been severed. This is very apparent in the land of Iron reunion where Naruto is the only one Sasuke listens to. Because Naruto protected that bond when they fought at the final valley, Sasuke still feels for Naruto. For example, in the first reunion he openly admits that he still has a bond with Naruto and even tells him to protect his dream as hokage http://www.onemanga....o_manga/307/17/

Now as for Team 7, Sakura is not bonded to Sasuke anymore. That is one-sided. However, just as Sakura cannot relate to Naruto when it comes to Neji, Hinata cannot relate to Naruto when it comes to Sasuke. Sasuke plays a big part in Naruto's life that much is certain.

As for Sakura, her purpose is questionable. Now even though she said that she would come with him, as I stated above Sasuke has already severed his bond with her and when he said thank you, that was the acknowledgement that her character was searching for. The one thing I will point out is that she never said she would redeem Sasuke, only be there to support Naruto. What we do know is that she has clear feelings for Sasuke and unclear feelings for Naruto. This imply's compounded with the fact that Naruto said that he would not confess his feelings until he had redeemed Sasuke, that when they fight, Sakura will have to make a choice. Now we don't know if this choice will have romantic implications behind it. For example it could be a speech or her simply healing him. However, my point is that though she can't change Sasuke, she can still support Naruto. Just not with a poison kunai.

Now as for Sasori, she was not directly fighting Sasuke at the time. Because she still has feelings for him, she is weak when directly facing him and can not affect him.

To clarify, Weak to Sasuke means-Not being able to affect him or defeat him due to emotions or lack of strength.

Now Sakura will likely never be on Sasuke or Naruto's level, however in the Land of Iron she had openings to kill which she could not take because she was still stuck on his image when they were kids. However, 540 shows that she has accepted these feelings as bad also paralleling Ino's feelings as well.

Now for the hand-holding scene. Pay attention to the fox, instead of talking about Hinata, he talks about Neji's sacrifice paralleling it to Minato and Kushina's. "Your lives are linked to their's." Refering to Minato and Kushina. http://www.onemanga....o_manga/615/13/ Then Naruto thinks to himself, "Yeah that's right" then he thinks of the people who are linked to him, including Minato, Jiraiya, Kushina etc. This shows that the reason he got over Neji was because he did not want those people's sacrifices to be in vain. For every person in there is dead. Then, he thanks Hinata for being at his side. However, nowhere does it say that he considers her a part of his recovery from Neji's death.

Now this next part is not part of my argument. Hinata's emotional strength is unquestionable. However she has not won a fight yet. What is your opinion on this and how it affects her strength as a character? Not bashing Hinata I just want to hear your opinion.

And with that long type session finished I'm going to bed. It's almost 3:00 AM in Rhode Island and its not even a friday so theres no reason to stay up any later. You make a lot of good challenging points Crimson.

Edited by Shadow1275, 09 April 2013 - 06:51 AM.

[Ex-psych75]

Good thing Crimson came when the time was right, makes this thread much more lively

[TouKen4Life3g]

No problem. Look let me just make this clear, I don't expect you to change your pairing at all or accept what I say at all. I also don't think NH is wrong or that NS is canon or destined. I'm just into debating for the fun of it. Like I said, what I say you can take it or leave it.

Now for the fun part,

For the edicts they are as follows:

1. No med nin shall give up on treating a breathing teammate

2. Med Nin are not allowed to engage in battles-Nothing against being on the front lines

3. Med-Nin shall be the last ones to die on a team

4. Only Med Nin who have mastered Strength of a Hundred are allowed to break the above rules.

Though Sakura is on the front lines, she has never engaged in Direct combat. Only in Self-defense and therefore has abided by these rules. These are the exact translations as one manga gets their scans from manga panda http://www.onemanga....to_manga/577/2/

As for the sudden transportation to shizune Instant Transmission maybe?????

As for Zetsu Sakura has always been intelligent and you acknowledged this so no quarrel. My main point with that confrontation is that she did not need help from others.

Though one Zetsu clone did survive a direct blow from Neji a powerful ninja http://www.onemanga....o_manga/524/17/

Sakura's love for Sasuke is definitely her greatest character flaw so no issues there.

As for the team 7 idea. That was never part of my point.

When Sasuke left in part 1, His goals were to sever the bonds he had made with his teammates. With Sakura he was successful. Sakura for who knows what still feels for Sasuke. However, in both reunions Sasuke shows no concern at all for Sakura showing that his bond with her has been severed. This is very apparent in the land of Iron reunion where Naruto is the only one Sasuke listens to. Because Naruto protected that bond when they fought at the final valley, Sasuke still feels for Naruto. For example, in the first reunion he openly admits that he still has a bond with Naruto and even tells him to protect his dream as hokage http://www.onemanga....o_manga/307/17/

Now as for Team 7, Sakura is not bonded to Sasuke anymore. That is one-sided. However, just as Sakura cannot relate to Naruto when it comes to Neji, Hinata cannot relate to Naruto when it comes to Sasuke. Sasuke plays a big part in Naruto's life that much is certain.

As for Sakura, her purpose is questionable. Now even though she said that she would come with him, as I stated above Sasuke has already severed his bond with her and when he said thank you, that was the acknowledgement that her character was searching for. The one thing I will point out is that she never said she would redeem Sasuke, only be there to support Naruto. What we do know is that she has clear feelings for Sasuke and unclear feelings for Naruto. This imply's compounded with the fact that Naruto said that he would not confess his feelings until he had redeemed Sasuke, that when they fight, Sakura will have to make a choice. Now we don't know if this choice will have romantic implications behind it. For example it could be a speech or her simply healing him. However, my point is that though she can't change Sasuke, she can still support Naruto. Just not with a poison kunai.

Now as for Sasori, she was not directly fighting Sasuke at the time. Because she still has feelings for him, she is weak when directly facing him and can not affect him.

To clarify, Weak to Sasuke means-Not being able to affect him or defeat him due to emotions or lack of strength.

Now Sakura will likely never be on Sasuke or Naruto's level, however in the Land of Iron she had openings to kill which she could not take because she was still stuck on his image when they were kids. However, 540 shows that she has accepted these feelings as bad also paralleling Ino's feelings as well.

Now for the hand-holding scene. Pay attention to the fox, instead of talking about Hinata, he talks about Neji's sacrifice paralleling it to Minato and Kushina's. "Your lives are linked to their's." Refering to Minato and Kushina. http://www.onemanga....o_manga/615/13/ Then Naruto thinks to himself, "Yeah that's right" then he thinks of the people who are linked to him, including Minato, Jiraiya, Kushina etc. This shows that the reason he got over Neji was because he did not want those people's sacrifices to be in vain. For every person in there is dead. Then, he thanks Hinata for being at his side. However, nowhere does it say that he considers her a part of his recovery from Neji's death.

Now this next part is not part of my argument. Hinata's emotional strength is unquestionable. However she has not won a fight yet. What is your opinion on this and how it affects her strength as a character? Not bashing Hinata I just want to hear your opinion.

And with that long type session finished I'm going to bed. It's almost 3:00 AM in Rhode Island and its not even a friday so theres no reason to stay up any later. You make a lot of good challenging points Crimson.

This is how I see it. Sakura thinks the same as Naruto when it comes to Team 7: bring Sasuke back and protect it like a family. Now, well, it's about making everyone get their happy ending. When it comes to romantic love, that's personal and that don't usually play a part until it's really necessary. Naruto is the attacker as Sakura is his supporter, mind you not to be mistaken as a supporting character. The point is that Sakura supports Naruto because they share the same goal in terms of Team 7. Romantic love is their personal things, so they don't bring it up until well, last arc, but it's complicated anyway. Point is that not all moments have to be romantic moments until it's written that way. Case in point, the whole point of Sasori's battle for her is not only show how much stronger she got, but wanting to protect Naruto and Sasuke, especially once Sasuke goes back with them. That was the whole point of her fight, because if she gets the detail, Team 7 can come back and it's not like she's doing for herself, but of course shared it. Heck, she didn't like the idea that Naruto should be stay out of the next mission because they're both wanting to bring back Team 7.

So yeah, that's the problem with any fandoms, honestly. Not all are romantic and/or personal feelings. It can be if it's written the way Kishi wants you to think. Chapter 540 is the clear example that it's about her personal feelings. Sure, there is hope for happy ending for all of them individually, but what about in romance? Is there any hope for her and Sasuke? That remains to be seen and she is losing it.

[Baguette]

Good thing Crimson came when the time was right, makes this thread much more lively

Indeed. I no longer have to pretend to jump ships and debate for NH just for the sake of adding to the conversation
Though I do fear we may have presented Crimson with one too many responses...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Indeed. I no longer have to pretend to jump ships and debate for NH just for the sake of adding to the conversation
Though I do fear we may have presented Crimson with one too many responses...

Well, I for one think it's nice to hear new opinions and have us talking without being harsh or anything uncalled for. I want to go all full-time, but I still didn't Bioshock, which I have it for like 2 weeks. I should take a day off from here.

[HauntedCake]

Ok just caught up with 10 pages again...


Ok, heres where i stand with the love triangle

*Warning* this ain't going to be a nice post...

Where do i begin to vent my rage...hmmm ok lets start here.

Sakura STILL romantically loves Sasuke even after everything he has done to her. So.... this is the thing that rustles my jimmies the most. I just.. can't fathom how... furious i am with her.

How??? how can she still feel anything for him at this stage?

To me it seems that she puts her Romantic hots above Naruto true selfless love which quite frankly should land her in death row. Yes i say hots because that's all it really is, she has no connection so to speak with him outside her idealism. It's almost like Sasuke is just a prize to show off.

This leads me on to my next point, the "choice" that many of us believe she will have to make... CHOICE??

Dafuq??? so it's generally believed she might still choose Sasuke?? how will this work? let alone show us that Sakura is a herione??? After everything Naruto has done for her she still thinks Sasuke would be the better choice??? due to his outer appearances???

Yes - i am aware that Sakura did try to learn what Sasuke was like underneath but she failed in this utterly.

So, if NS is to happen there can't really be a compromise when it comes to how she feels about both of them. Naruto will never accept Sakura if she still has any lingering feelings for Sasuke. Which basically means its going to be a "all or nothing" scenario. It can't really play out like it did in Dragon Quest because Naruto has shown that he will never accept Sakura if she still has feelings for Sasuke (the lie to yourself thing). So Sakura is going to either have to justify choosing Sasuke IF they can redeem him OR completely snuff out her lingering feelings for Sasuke and show Naruto she holds nothing for Sasuke anymore and loves him.

How Sakura can Romantically love Sasuke after all he's done so easily really shows her immaturity. She has shown to have some romantic feelings for Naruto so it's not impossible for her to develop romantic feelings if she isn't already for Naruto. Naruto is ATM far more powerful then Sasuke is and i would say he would defeat Sasuke with little struggle.

Last thing, if Sakura bases her romance on appearances then does Naruto really look unattractive??? IMO if i were a girl and lined them both up i would seriously choose Naruto for looks over Sasuke. Yes he's kinda dopey but if we base it on looks then he's quite attractive (physically)

Could anyone justify how SS could work???? honestly i think that they SHOULD get together just so she can learn how incompatable they are to each other and then realize who really is the person she loves/needs. Naruto is practiaccly her soulmate, they know each other inside out and are very similar in every way, complementing each others strengths/ weaknesses (Heaven and earth)

I sometimes think " You know what, you really don't deserve Naruto at all"

So... Rage vent 100% complete

Apologies if i upset anyone but this is how i feel. I might of missed some points as i'm improvising as i go.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Ok just caught up with 10 pages again...


Ok, heres where i stand with the love triangle

*Warning* this ain't going to be a nice post...

Where do i begin to vent my rage...hmmm ok lets start here.

Sakura STILL romantically loves Sasuke even after everything he has done to her. So.... this is the thing that rustles my jimmies the most. I just.. can't fathom how... furious i am with her.

How??? how can she still feel anything for him at this stage?

To me it seems that she puts her Romantic hots above Naruto true selfless love which quite frankly should land her in death row. Yes i say hots because that's all it really is, she has no connection so to speak with him outside her idealism. It's almost like Sasuke is just a prize to show off.

This leads me on to my next point, the "choice" that many of us believe she will have to make... CHOICE??

Dafuq??? so it's generally believed she might still choose Sasuke?? how will this work? let alone show us that Sakura is a herione??? After everything Naruto has done for her she still thinks Sasuke would be the better choice??? due to his outer appearances???

Yes - i am aware that Sakura did try to learn what Sasuke was like underneath but she failed in this utterly.

So, if NS is to happen there can't really be a compromise when it comes to how she feels about both of them. Naruto will never accept Sakura if she still has any lingering feelings for Sasuke. Which basically means its going to be a "all or nothing" scenario. It can't really play out like it did in Dragon Quest because Naruto has shown that he will never accept Sakura if she still has feelings for Sasuke (the lie to yourself thing). So Sakura is going to either have to justify choosing Sasuke IF they can redeem him OR completely snuff out her lingering feelings for Sasuke and show Naruto she holds nothing for Sasuke anymore and loves him.

How Sakura can Romantically love Sasuke after all he's done so easily really shows her immaturity. She has shown to have some romantic feelings for Naruto so it's not impossible for her to develop romantic feelings if she isn't already for Naruto. Naruto is ATM far more powerful then Sasuke is and i would say he would defeat Sasuke with little struggle.

Last thing, if Sakura bases her romance on appearances then does Naruto really look unattractive??? IMO if i were a girl and lined them both up i would seriously choose Naruto for looks over Sasuke. Yes he's kinda dopey but if we base it on looks then he's quite attractive (physically)

Could anyone justify how SS could work???? honestly i think that they SHOULD get together just so she can learn how incompatable they are to each other and then realize who really is the person she loves/needs. Naruto is practiaccly her soulmate, they know each other inside out and are very similar in every way, complementing each others strengths/ weaknesses (Heaven and earth)

I sometimes think " You know what, you really don't deserve Naruto at all"

So... Rage vent 100% complete

Apologies if i upset anyone but this is how i feel. I might of missed some points as i'm improvising as i go.

She's moving on from Sasuke, it's kinda obvious since Kishimoto never give a valid reason for her to love him, moreover the interview were he basically confirmed that she will move on from Sasuke.
But also Naruto did mistakes with Sakura he wasnt honest and even was a bit selfish.
He was struggling when he saw Sakura crying because of the emo-guy and decided to go for the Raikage and search for Sasuke making things worse when Sakura really cares about Naruto, then sums this with Sai saying that Naruto loves her.

Instead of trying to comfort her he basically hey "Sakura wait that i'll put myself into danger."

Note: Naruto also had no chance against Sasuke on that moment.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 09 April 2013 - 12:03 PM.

[HauntedCake]

She's moving on from Sasuke, it's kinda obvious since Kishimoto never give a valid reason for her to love him, moreover the interview were he basically confirmed that she will move on from Sasuke.
But also Naruto did mistakes with Sakura he wasnt honest and even was a bit selfish.
He was struggling when he saw Sakura crying because of the emo-guy and decided to go for the Raikage and search for Sasuke making things worse when Sakura really cares about Naruto, then sums this with Sai saying that Naruto loves her.

Instead of trying to comfort her he basically hey "Sakura wait that i'll put myself into danger."

Note: Naruto also had no chance against Sasuke on that moment.

Well, due to unlocking the full 9 tails mode and a tag team forming with Kuruma, they could beat Sasuke's susano and kirin. One bijuu bomb would most likely decimate his susano'o

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, due to unlocking the full 9 tails mode and a tag team forming with Kuruma, they could beat Sasuke's susano and kirin. One bijuu bomb would most likely decimate his susano'o

Im' sorry but Naruto stated he had no chance, this is the whole reason why he wanted to control Kurama.

Sasuke + Tobi would beat him easily that moment.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 09 April 2013 - 12:12 PM.